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ConfusedParticipantYeah i remember u telling me that but i didnt think of it at the time, wow it could be it!
So i still have high anxiety even tho i feel “calm”. My previous post is awaiting moderation i guess because i posted a youtube link 🙁
ConfusedParticipantAlso, sometimes when i look at my phone, it’s visual changes, i see it and the letters more narrow and tall, so weird.
ConfusedParticipantHaha sometimes it looks funny to me too, this whole thing.
But how can i find this part? When did it come up? Now when i think of the relationship with her (well, with any female to be exact) it feels black in my mind.
Maybe we should send this part to another planet! Or find out why is it saying no, but how. It’s like it doesn’t want any romantic connection now. Or is it anhedonia?
Yes if u could, copilot seems to be giving nice answers 🙂
ConfusedParticipantSorry for adding so many details, might be boring but sometimes i do it to see how my mind works and maybe others can find those blueprints in the future haha.
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
Yes i do have some close friends and also a couple of female friends, even tho i’ve neglected them in the past months 🙁
I was kinda shocked that she said those things considering she doesnt know anything about psychology/attachment styles and stuff.
Hmm, u mean the cortisol and dopamine chemicals reinforce this loop?
I didn’t have such voice in my head, just the “checking how much i like her” voice.
But i didn’t experience such things before in the past, its so confusing and seems very real!
Haha u think so? Today i remembered of how i cried while i was leaving her behind in the airport when we parted and an image came to my head: “us being in my airport now, her leaving and me hugging her tightly”, but it lasted for 10 seconds.. Then i came across some cute bear-couple reels on instagram and i was thinking of her while watching them. Then i saw one where the male was thinking how innocent/pretty his female is and how he likes her voice. I instantly thought of her while seeing it and i started crying profusely. I thought of how innocent she looks in my eyes and i remembered two days ago that she sent me a voice record of her laughing and i was listening to her laugh for 5 minutes straight because of how much i like it. But ofc then my mind went “u just place her in those spots (the video one where i cried for example) because she’s the most recent romantic interest u’ve had” and im like wtf, cant catch a break! I wonder what would mr.copilot say about these haha
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
Hmm, u might be right on the chemical part but i think that no matter the chemicals, if i don’t work on my mental compulsions and stuff, idk if it’s gonna go away.
Yes but i feel sorrow/sadness 8/10 times and 2/10 its maybe warm feelings, but mostly void (or isnt it void?) and that makes me loop and spiral again..
Today i was talking with a female friend of mine that is in a 5 years relationship with a close friend of mine and she instantly said: “why does this look like to me, that u’re sabotaging ur own happiness by poisoning it with never-ending thoughts and worries? could that be a defense mechanism?” and it amazed me how fast she picked up on that. She said ofc i love ur friend to death but i don’t feel it all the time constantly and i dont MISS him all the time. I just feel lucky to have found a wonderful man (like u’ve found a very good woman) and i feel warmth/safety next to him, sometimes maybe a bit of intensity but mostly those two, but that’s normal.
For example, i explained to her my today’s loop: I woke up (ofc checking my feelings instantly), saw that she posted a photo of herself in a mirror, i said to myself: She’s gorgeous, but why am i not feeling crazy about it? Must be a sign that i don’t want her. Why am i not getting aroused by looking at her? Must be that i dont really want her. (sorry for being graphic) Why don’t i feel JEALOUS for her posting this and other guys seeing it? Must be that i dont really want her and she doesnt mean much to me. Meanwhile, maybe it’s a sign that i feel comfortable in this relationship and i am only used to chaos/highs. But then while we were out for coffee, i would keep checking my feelings for her, like a process that runs in the back of my mind 24/7. Crazy stuff!
ConfusedParticipantMany say that on the internet yeah, but i haven’t asked any psychiatrist yet. Btw i have a lot of doctors here but its hard to know who’s good. Also, idk if my problem is chemical-related or psychology-related.
Yes i did feel safer eventually, but mostly on the positive ones, because when the negatives hit it took me a while to tell her, but i did!
I think what freaked me out was the realization/bubble burst after the talk about the future, which was pretty soon for me, but i think that would have happened with any other girl when going for the next big step, it just hadn’t surfaced yet because i’ve never reached this milestone before.
Also i confuse intensity/infatuation with love and feelings, so i think that’s a first for me also. Sometimes i compare our first year to now and i think “while it was very fun and awesome, i think i wouldn’t trade today for that”, but other times i say “damn, i wanna feel like the beginning again”, but i know this would be like chasing dragons because it doesnt last forever and i could lose something good.
I like bunnies 🙂
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
I read your last post from Copilot now, it was my biggest fear indeed, but i think now i’ve become immune to it by how many times it almost happened or i imagined it in my head to “feel” something for reassurance. Idk how i am gonna feel if it does happen for real tho.
It’s also true that with her i felt comfortable sharing all my romance, things i’ve never did to any other girl and loving actions/words because at last i found someone that’s worth all that and will not cringe at me.
About 1-2-3, before november, if i’d sense distance from her, i would try and fawn in the beginning to win her back, but now the moment i sense distance i am so eager to leave.
Idk if that’s emotional numbness towards her or to everyone 🙁 I think it’s towards everything though, but my mind is somehow conviced that “SHE IS THE REASON”, lol.
As for the last part, hell yes! I think that if it doesn’t feel intense/dopamine filled, i can’t pay any attention to it. I do mirror her but i am not doing it on purpose and i’m trying to stop it. For example yesterday, she was colder and more closed off but i managed to “act lovingly” and she slowly opened up again, even tho my body was fuming and wanting to get away.
I don’t know anita i really can’t understand.. It’s like i can’t let her go for some reason, sometimes my future doesn’t “make sense” without her, but some other times i feel like i can’t care. But my main problem is the lack of motivation/drive/passion to meet her.. Maybe it’s because we haven’t spent much time together and we didn’t bond properly yet.
Thank you for your time posting all these 🙂
Btw i read people on Bupropion cured their anhedonia.
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
No no it wasn’t too much, this analysis seems great but i will read it tomorrow evening maybe, now i am gonna sleep.
Hmm idk about the meds i am scared of long term side-effects..
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
I read both ur posts and i have to say i am in awe with what Copilot said about those few things i described,wow! I am also in tears again with all those, as well as with the girl. She said that her friends told her harsh things about us and created many insecurities in her head, now she’s sad and kinda pulls away but she said “im the only one knowing how i feel inside” and i cried a lot, i wanted to hold her in my arms and reassure her 🙁
About copilot’s messages, i dont think i can reply to each seperately but i will try my best to summarize.
It’s not that i only valued intensity, but i think if there was no “burning desire”, i can’t recognize it. (maybe that’s the same thing?)I am really confused (as my name suggests) in regards to the feelings, what’s real and what’s not, what’s intensity/infatuation.. I dont remember being with any girl without infatuation.
Those intrusive thoughts were exactly what i had! All those sentences and more..and yes i couldn’t stop kissing her and i was hugging her so tightly, i couldnt get enough of her!
I remember in the beginning of what happened i couldn’t even form sentences properly with my friend, it was hard, i felt like my batteries were at 1%..
I could feel it physically, my feelings going away..whenever i would think/fantasize of something good with her, it would soon after vanish and i couldn’t access it again..
But it doesnt feel like a shift/change, it feels real, like my feelings of being in love are gone.
As for the final message, it could be true, the panic, the transition..its all so messy!
Yes i could feel like logically “i want her” but i couldn’t feel it/connect with it emotionally. Its not like that now though, it feels like it’s gone after those days.
I am very triggered now by her because she’s also triggered by her friends words about us and she feels like avoiding,so i feel it back, damn!
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
Thank you for taking time to post all these 🙂
Tbh i’ve thought about #1 but it feels so unknown to me, without the feelings of honeymoon it’s really hard for me because i guess i’ve never learned to value love and stability so i yearn for the highs 🙁
About #2 i’ve never thought of it like that, it could be the case because i remember myself back in December crying and saying to myself “i want to feel like before”, felt like i was grieving the relationship while still in it. Wow, this fits so much, maybe i am learning something new here?
#3 Yes exactly like it happened when i visited her, even though i couldnt get enough of her hugging and kissing her, something was still bugging me in my mind, i think it was anxiety but it felt more like a voice telling me im a fraud.
#4 That word came to my mind aswell but i wasn’t sure because idk if i’m correct. How did it feel for you anita? For me it’s random moments in the day, stopping myself and thinking feeling “out of it” like “what am i doing here, why am i talking to her?”. I also forget things instantly, like sentences or words i wanted to say, things i wanted to do, i drift away.. Was it like that for u too?
Haha Copilot is smart indeed and he has the same letters, maybe he’s onto something. It could be the case because like i said, i was crying telling myself “how can i feel the same as before AGAIN??”. But the moment it happened (in November) it felt so unreal, like my feelings were locked in a box and i couldn’t feel them, but logically i knew i wanted her, i just couldn’t connect. I think it’s still like this but i am more used to it now. What does mr.Copilot say about this instance?
I used to have a say when i was younger about relationships: “If it doesn’t consume me then i don’t want it”, but i might have to change that now..
ConfusedParticipantBtw now she told me that she’s gonna visit me soon and my mind instantly went: “We will be awkward, we will be bored, we will not have a nice time and we’ll be looking forward to seperate” and i felt really bad, like i don’t want her to come because my mind “predicts” all those things.. Damn it’s so hard!
Sometimes i think of her, of what we have, of me and i feel like it’s not “real”, idk how to describe it, it feels “imaginary/fake” or something.. Wtf is this?
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
Yeah that’s what i think (or was led to believe by social media/friends). That if i don’t miss them or i’m not extremely sad (or panic) in the thought of losing them, then there’s a problem.
I havent learned to not be emotionally dependent on my relationship i think. I’ve always expected relationship to fulfill/complete me.
Well, if i am not terrified of losing her, not feeling the urge to talk to her, not miss her (even tho i think about her 24/7), then what remains? Why do i cry?
ConfusedParticipantBut why did it end so violently and suddenly (november/repulsion & avoidance) 🙁
Also like i said, people usually miss others, maybe im not normal or i can’t “miss” her because she’s in my mind 24/7?
Another thing, shouldn’t i feel terrified in the thought of losing her?
ConfusedParticipantHmm to be honest you are right on this, but my question still remains, why am i like that? People normally miss/long for the other person.
Maybe that’s me after honeymoon phase and i am just discovering it? -
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