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  • #458227
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    Oh i see what u mean. I think i mostly want to feel it for myself first, because i think that’s how i will feel good and okay.

    But for how long? I dont enjoy anything, i want the 2025 back 🙁

    #458223
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    Oh anita, why would i not feel absolute joy and contentment having such an amazing girl loving me and being so caring to me.She’s such a sweetheart and i wanted nothing else than to kiss her all over her pretty face before this happened 🙁

    Actually in december too, while holding her i would hug her so tight and kiss her hands, forehead, lips, eyes, etc and i would feel like shouting from excitement! (while my mind was telling me “u are fooling her, u will leave her” “u are faking it”)
    Now it’s like none of this matters, i can’t imagine anything romantic or feel it, like this self of mine has gone dark.. only void and vanity remains.

    #458222
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    No no, it is the opposite, i can’t how that felt, my mind “removed” it, like a distant cognitive memory, no emotional charge, that goes for my whole life pretty much 🙁

    Yes some days have been fun but i constantly ask from myself to be enthusiastic, miss her, be crazy about her, etc, otherwise it’s hard to feel it.

    I know it does but i can’t really stop it, no matter what i do, play games, watch movies, be out with friends, ride the motorcycle , nothing works. All i do is think and ruminate and when i don’t i feel bad for not doing it lol.

    Yes we did talk about those two, what do u mean changing thinking=changing feelings? About drugs, i am still not comfortable idk, maybe Wellbutrin but i need to find someone to prescribe that for me..

    Yes, the therapist suggested CBT-ERP mostly, she constantly says i should really master CBT and slowly eliminate compulsions but she knows it’s difficult.

    #458219
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    Thank you anita

    Hmm yeah you are right, we said that again and yes, this was the first one to move me like that.. but u know i can’t even remember that right now, everything is so long ago or my brain has just disconnected me 🙁

    Today i feel very bad, so disconnected from everything and everyone, i can’t enjoy anything, can’t focus on anything, feel empty and alone in my house and idk what’s the problem. All i know is i can’t stop thinking of her, from the minute i wake up. I constantly look in the past and try to find what changed or reminisce about how good i used to feel. I know that’s a compulsion/rumination but its hard to stop.
    Hours ago i was thinking about her and i was like “what? who is this girl even? why am i so obsessed with her?” not like i don’t “know” who she is, but it’s something different i can’t explain it.

    #458214
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    Hey anita

    I relate with almost everything copilot said and i understand it, but what i don’t understand is why is this happening for months on-end? Why now? What is this trying to tell me? Maybe it’s not trying to tell me anything and it’s just a protection mechanism designed to keep u away from closeness or building deeper foundations/intimacy? I can’t understand what’s happening.
    Today i feel more numb than ever, we were texting and i was feeling dysphoria and a burden.I hate it.

    Paulien timmer also says that doubts are a protection mechanism of the FA

    #458212
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    Hey anita

    You are right, i can’t be sure of anything ever again. Whenever i feel/do something the doubts & questions arise, that’s the OCD i think..

    #458205
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    Oh then yes, i was already scanning/being hyper-aware and very afraid of losing her before november.

    Thats what i thought when u talked about middle grounds in buddhism.

    But how can i kick this part out of me or silence it? I dont need it 🙁
    Also how can i know if it’s this for sure? I think it all began since that future-convo 🙁

    I used to believe in love fairytales, that love will save me and i will be complete

    #458202
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    Therapist also said she thinks i have an inner judge that has some high requirements/standards about love, relationships, how i should be feeling, etc and comes online right after i feel something. But that has never happened again in the past.. She said it could be because my previous relationships were mostly superficial and this one requires foundations. I literally have no clue

    #458198
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    Hey anita

    Hmm u mean even before November? could be yeah..

    Haha that’s also what my therapist was saying yesterday. I was telling her about my somatic reactions (to the post, her superior hitting on her, etc) and she basically said that the feeling IS there, but i “choose” not to acknowledge it because it’s not the extreme infatuation or the other extreme, fear of loss/rejection, so it goes unnoticed by my mind and i should try to accept the middle grounds because even herself (she used herself as an example), said: Now i think about my boyfriend leaving me, which i love so much, and i can’t feel anything because the situation is not right/fitting, we can’t “order” feelings, they come when the time is right or if the situation demands it.

    I feel good knowing that someone understands me because i definitely don’t haha.

    Yesterday i was feeling much better, texting with her was so much fun and i even felt some warmth and loving feelings (i think?? what is love?)

    What bothers me is this:
    Almost a year ago when i would be falling for her i would see in her all i wanted in a girlfriend. She’s sweet, kind, loving, caring, smart, great sense of humour, communicates, shares deep feelings, she’s damn pretty, i love her eyes, her smile, her voice, her hair, her neck, damn even her hands/feet look great to me (things i would never pay attention to in previous girls). She was lighting candles and praying for me to be safe, even got me a guardian bell for the motorcycle. I would say to myself, “wow, how did i find this gem”, i wanna share my life with her, be there for her, hold her in my arms when she shares her deepest vulnerabilities and insecurities with me, have her in my arms until she falls asleep and then wake up kissing her warm lips, hugging her warm body, go on trips with her, surprise her at work, bring her coffee/food, pick her up and go on small trips without her knowing.
    All the above were things i would think about constantly until November and i would feel so good, so hopeful and happy. But now nothing gets through to me, nothing “touches” me, none of the above. I can still see she’s pretty and a great person but nothing moves me, i am unfazed. It’s like this part of is gone.. and it’s not like i wanna experience it with another girl, no. It’s like my whole “romantic identity”, me being a “boyfriend” is vanished. And i can’t fathom because this is who i used to be my whole life, i was dreaming of finding a girl like her that likes so many things that i like and have all those qualities.. 🙁

    #458156
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    Hey anita

    The other AIs say that too but in the past 2-3 days i feel so indifferent and i don’t like it.. maybe it’s the numbness u are describing because of the constant alert-scanning-obsessing for months on end.

    Yes i am trying to stick it out because of how amazing i used to feel and because she’s a sweetheart that i know, logically, i would like to have, it’s hard but im trying 🙂

    I think i am pretty much the same as you in the shutdown department, tons of stress, uneasiness, dysphoria and mind being 200% active even when i sleep. Your reply is pretty much copilot’s one without so much analysis.

    Conscientious is the right word yeah, i had forgotten how to type it too haha.

    Thank your the responses from copilot anita 🙂

    #458130
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    Yes i’ve always been hypervigilant in almost every area of my life, even when driving i will think ahead that maybe an accident is gonna happen to me. I always thought it was low confidence or something..

    I think that’s exactly what happened to me in November, waking up flat, panicking and then burnt-out by obsessing and also hiding stuff from her because how can u tell ur person that u can’t even type a whole sentence? that u forget words within seconds and u can’t give them yesterday’s energy? Especially in our case which was so delicate.. I will never disappear, even if we split i want to always be there for her because she’s a great person and she deserves it, she is always so loving and kind to me 🙂
    Yes it surprised me too that i didn’t feel triggered to bolt, i guess it’s because i know what she’s going through and i am not the one to abandon.

    Hmm how did u go through it anita? Did u feel things or felt differently?

    I just want to feel like before with her, to enjoy our connection without all this numbness, anxiety, overthinking etc. 🙁
    Also now i can’t feel sadness or cry with her gifts and her chocolates and that worries me.. Maybe it’s because we’re good and i dont “have to” ?

    Something else that i might have told u again tho, i’ve never missed anyone in my life and sometimes i think that i am incapable of that, except if someone offers me something..

    #458128
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    I also reminded her of all the reasons i fell for her and how amazing she is to me 🙂

    She got my gift for her nameday and she cried a lot because of my letters and how i got her something that she had already on her wishlist for 2 years without me actually knowing anything about it!

    Yesterday i was also reminscing on how amazing our little thing was, how we would feel while while interacting with each other and i would tear up.. my best buddy and baby girl 🙁

    #458127
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    Hey anita

    Yeah exactly, that’s how i feel.. 9/10 ppl/cases say what u and copilot shared but i still cant fathom it consciously so its very confusing!

    I’ve always been alert waiting for the other shoe to drop and i realize it more now, no matter how good things going, i’m always hypervigillant that something will go wrong and things will get dumpstered or they will leave me. But i wasn’t like that 10 years ago, i used to not give a damn and i would enjoy everything..

    I hope i’m not delusional and i can actually find out the pattern and change it..

    Yesterday we had a long convo (sort of) and she basically told me that she feels exhausted to her core and that she can’t even form sentences/send me messages with emotion and she’s very scared.. She doesn’t know why she feels this way and says it’s not like herself at all. Rings a bell? I described her what i went through in November/December/January, all of it and she says it seems very familiar.. So i told her if it’s anything like my case, to take space and stop putting expectations on herself, stop trying to “give me feelings” and i’m here for her anytime and i’m not going anywhere (neither being interested in other girls)

    It’s ironic how she got this issue too now, wow..

    #458089
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    Hey anita

    I know but before november i would also feel the need to pull them in even closer (fawning?)

    So everyone says but it’s really very hard to grasp. I mean, how can we be so intelligent and still face such issues?

    I have ALL that copilot wrote to you down to a T. But i never thought i had the difficulty of connecting, i guess my “connections” were always surface level? I think i’ve had pretty much everything with my GF of this list..

    Today tho, it was a very nice day, it was her nameday, we were chatting all day until late night, we laughed a lot, we were intimate and caring and i felt nice for the first time in a long while (not honeymoon phase-like, but something good nonetheless)
    She told me about a manager of hers that he’s hitting on her in the past 3 days and that makes her anxious and “freeze”, when i heard about it my BPM rose and my legs got weak..I advised her to take some action and don’t accept such behaviours. She is so innocent that takes everything as “joke” or “courtesy” and feels bad when i tell her otherwise, but she’s starting to get it, that most men only want one thing..
    It felt better than the past months but my mind would still say “so, why aren’t u feeling ecstatic to videocall her, see her and stuff”, or “what if u get sexual and then u lose interest because u won this ‘prize’?” even tho i know i’m not such a person but my mind keeps attacking me lol.

    #458066
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    Maybe you are right anita, i have no idea how this works. One thing i do know for sure tho, is when i sense rejection i have an urge to back off.. Damn, such a beautiful connection we shared, i wouldn’t change it for a thing. I remember in december i would go back to our chat around august-september and i was reading our messages, i could remember it was me who sent those messages, i could remember that i was feeling amazing, but i couldn’t “feel” the feeling, like it was someone else.. I was like “damn, that was me..”

    I wish i could go back in time 🙁

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