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ConfusedParticipantHey anita, thank you for your replies, i will respond later in the night when i’ll have time to read the messages 🙂
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
I would say the same but then my mind says: maybe it’s not real and its ur need for attachment projected, constant doubts.
Yeah we did have the videocall for 8 hours, we laughed, we teased and we discussed something in the end that was kinda the November talk that possibly triggered me, but this time i voiced my opinions and didnt get triggered. Basically she asked me what my “goals” are in the love department, hers is to get married eventually, that’s why she dates, not for fun. I told her i dont care about marriage, i want a partner to share my life with and possibly build together and be there for each other, marriage or not i dont really care. I told her i would marry my girl if that’s what she wanted but it doesn’t make a difference for me. She said “so u will compromise”, i said it’s not really a compromise for me since i dont feel like im giving something up, my feelings don’t change marriage or not. So probably she didnt like this answer. Then she asked me again if i would be willing to leave my friends and move to Cyprus and i asked her if she would move to Greece, she said “if u make me feel like it” and i said the same to her. I told her i dont prioritize my friends in my life choices since my friends will eventually build their own families and leave me behind, so i have my future girlfriend as a priority because that’s the person i’ll end up spending my life with, supposedly. She said that she’s having a hard time living away from her family but she would consider. So i told her that the issue here is more on her side, since my “obstacles” are just logistics (job-property) and hers is emotional attachment. But anyway, we both agreed that we have to spend time together if we want to see if it works, but now she’s anxious (like me) that if she visits me and it doesn’t work out, then what? (meaning we will be again blocked with anxiety), but i told her that if we meet with this mindset ofc we will not feel anything positive since we’re filled with fear and preoccupation, but why wouldn’t it work since we both felt amazing in December? She said “idk” and then we left it at that.
What’s ur opinion anita? Could this have been my major trigger (commitmentphobe) that shut me down?
ConfusedParticipantThank you anita! 🙂
I did a dumb thing and i checked a forum about numbness in relationships and people say “u’ve already checked out, just let them go” and i felt discomfort/triggered, like it’s the truth i am not admitting all along. In the thought of ending things and hurting her i started crying saying “not my baby, no!”. Idk what is going on right now but i think it’s one of the worst moments.
ConfusedParticipantHey anita
Yeah so i didnt want to have this issue and ended up quitting SSRIs, i didnt want another problem on top of the previous ones..
I am not sure but it fits into retroactive jealousy theme of ROCD.. haha u could look it up.
Could be yes, a mean to never allow the connection fully.
Damn today has been a hard day.. My mind is constantly ruminating, what if this, what if that, what if i dont want her, what if i never wanted her, why am i texting her since i’m not feeling good about it? All those things.. We will probably videocall later but i am so scared that i will be bored and feel nothing 🙁
ConfusedParticipantYeah i know it’s not the same for everyone..
It was like numb orgasms haha
I think that’s called retroactive jealousy on ROCD?
Those thoughts were hiding ur feelings?
ConfusedParticipantI’ve had a thing when i took Escitalopram for the first week (i only took it for 10 days tho), where i would feel weird numb sensations in my body and i quit.
Wow, i wonder how that feels.. What were ur obsessive loops?
I hope i find it in this lifetime 🙂
ConfusedParticipantYeah that’s how i was thinking of her before November, i wanted to overwhelm her with love and affection!
Hmm, perhaps my experience is no different..I dont remember myself ever feeling truly happy for a long time.
Did u have any side effects with SSRIs other than when u tried getting off of them? What do u mean by clarity? on which part?
I think so too, when i said that i would feel overwhelmed with emotion (crying)
And then this, distant, disconnected.
Damn i want this to stop 🙁
ConfusedParticipantDamn i am jealous anita. How was your experience with Major depression? How long did it last? I also remember u took meds.
An hour ago i noticed something my mind does.. I was seeing again a cute bear-couple reel (dudu & bubu) because for some reason i’m a fan in the last 3 days haha, i related her to Bubu (the female one) and i started crying while i was riding the scooter, my mind was “she’s my Bubu” (because that’s how i wanted to treat her before November) but 5 minutes later, a thought came: “She’s not really something special, she’s just a girl that u met for 3 days only IRL, of course it’s not gonna feel good when u’re together”, and i felt this sense of uneasiness and dysphoria, then tried to look at the reel again (the one who got me crying a lot, to check if it would still work) and i felt nothing, it was as if this thought froze my feelings for a while and i think that’s a mechanism or what?
ConfusedParticipantSo if that’s depression and it’s treated, then i will be able to feel again?
ConfusedParticipantIdk anita, for some reason my mind blames all this on her, but i can’t make sense of it. They say when u’re depressed/anhedonic ur mind looks for someone to blame.
ConfusedParticipantNo i dont enjoy anything, nothing matters anymore. Ever since that day on November i can’t feel excitement/joy/fulfillment on anything..
Thats what ive been thinking, could it be the case?
ConfusedParticipantI can’t really fantasize anything, that’s gone.
ConfusedParticipantOh i think u mean to have the in-love feeling for life in general. But idk how that’s possible, i’ve always associated this with relationships..
ConfusedParticipantThank you anita, i appreciate your kind words, i feel u are intelligent and honest too 🙂
Sometimes i wish i was “dumb” or more unaware, i would for sure be happier!
Haha, i havent danced in 3 years, it was fun times 🙂 (how would u connect it?)
Hmm, your answers give me perspectives that i’ve never thought of..
I mean that it feels so real that my feelings are gone, but i always forget to notice that it’s about everything and everyone..
It’s more like someone went through the exact same process, not something i wasn’t aware of. Still got half of the video left to watch tho.
ConfusedParticipantI think that’s exactly how i feel, like u described it. Yeah i’ll submit it without the link, i’ll give u the video title and timestamp
Hey anita
Wow, so many information from mr Copilot laid out here! I have to take a while to read, i will try to answer to most of them.
First off, today while i was talking with my therapist, we were exploring my childhood a little bit and i think she also noticed that i am guarded because im afraid that people leave, since most of my answers were pointing to “then she’ll leave” and my biggest concern/fear up until november was to lose her. Again, i wanted to cry (but i held it in) while i was telling her “i wouldnt wanna see her gifts and think that she’s in the past now”. I also told her that yesterday while i was watching some reels with bunnies i thought of getting one but i am not suitable to raise it because i am away from home many hours a day, but my main issue was that it’s gonna die and i’ll be left behind grieving, so i avoid getting one and she connected that to the relationship. Now, an hour ago, i was watching those cute bear-couple reels again and i thought of her, started sobbing and the words “i don’t wanna lose u my love” popped out of my head for some seconds, then my mind instantly said “it’s a projection, not the truth”. Therapist also said that i should start giving attention to the feelings, instead of the numbness and the reasons to leave, but it’s hard.
About your first reply, why am i grieving her since she is still here? That’s what i was feeling from november to january.. The therapist called this part “the judge” that is harsh and dismissive.
Yes, all those emotional changes are very distressing and weird, one moment i cry and now i dont feel anything towards her, like i dont even want her at all, but 10 minutes ago i was crying to her gifts 🙁The thing is, i don’t think it’s fear, it feels so real to me and that this is the truth that i’m not accepting, but still, how it happened doesn’t make sense to me.. Check this video out and go on 15:10, this was EXACTLY how it happened to me, what followed, etc.. title: How I overcame Relationship OCD (ROCD) by Dr. Becky Spelman | The Human Pattern
I can’t remember experiencing this thing in the past though, maybe i was disconnected for the past 20 years or so. But i guess it makes sense because this happened after we had the talk that i perceived as danger and that im “wasting my time”, before that i was fine. And of course my mind says: “come on, u cant possibly believe that u have feelings for this girl, u havent even spent time together”, it was just infatuation. But then why was i planning things? Why was i feeling so warm and content while thinking of holding her in my arms, why did i want to protect her, provide for her and be there for her and love her? it’s like a war, everything is swimming in doubts, can’t trust anything anymore. I truly believe that this will now be with me lifelong, they say it comes in the safest relationships and it makes sense now.
Thank you anita for all your effort and replies, i appreciate it 🙂
I miss having the in-love feelings
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