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anitaParticipantHey ๐ Confused:
Yes, I do pay attention to n I numbers and anniversaries.
Is “not pressuring myself” same as relaxing?
Feelings as a treat, what an interesting way to put it. I hope you reward yourself every day.
The image of Confused thawing came to mind.
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anitaParticipantHello Peter:
I believe this is your very first thread in tiny buddha and what you brought up here, about nine and a half years ago, feels relevant to me at this time.
I feel that I really am changing these very days. I don’t think that anyone can change completely, as in being a totally new, or different person (the brain cannot be removed and a new one inserted into an empty skull, ha-..ha?)
But we can change.
I would like to continue this train of thought later).
๐ค Anita
anitaParticipantGood morning, Confused:
Today, March 1๏ธโฃ9๏ธโฃ, is the 3-month anniversary of you joining this thread (Dec 1๏ธโฃ9๏ธโฃ, 2025), filling 1๏ธโฃ9๏ธโฃ pages of posts (if you click on your screen name, you’ll see that)
Interestingly, Ada, with whom you felt much in common, posted on March 1๏ธโฃ9๏ธโฃ, 20222
Looking back at your first post, what strikes me most this morning is how trying to force feelings to return doesn’t work. You wrote back then about “โฆconstant rumination for my feelingsโฆโ โ Rumination is a form of selfโpressure โ repeatedly checking, analyzing, and trying to force feelings to appear.
Here’s what Copilot (AI) says on the topic: “When someone suddenly goes numb and panics about losing their feelings, they usually start trying to feel again. They check constantly, analyze everything, and pressure themselves to ‘love properly.’
“But emotional systems donโt respond well to pressure โ they tighten, freeze, or shut down even more. Thatโs why forcing feelings never works.
“What does help is when the person eventually… stops pushing so hard. The moment the inner pressure eases, the emotional system can breathe again. It relaxes. And in that softer space, feelings often begin to return naturally โ not because the person ‘tried harder,’ but because they finally stopped trying to control something that can only unfold on its own.
๐ฟ โจ ๐ค ๐ ๐ ๐ฑ ๐ซ ๐พ ๐ผ ๐ฌ๏ธ ๐ ๐ ๐๏ธ ๐ธ ๐ ๐ ๐ญ ๐ป โ๏ธ (19 emojis), Anita
anitaParticipantHey ๐ Confused:
That you feel better and more hopeful for the future, and that you’ve had some good/ warm feelings today- that makes my evening!
It’s okay if these feelings weaken, that’s okay. It’s natural for feelings to fluctuate. They’re like liquid. Nothing solid. That’s their nature.
The “guilt, fear, anxiety” she identified- yes, I see that.
You’re doing well, Confused- following up with her and with the psychiatrist.
One day, one night, one hour at a time: be patient and open for good things/ healing things happening.
๐โจ๏ธ๐ Anita
anitaParticipantThis story made me smile, Peter, even though I am also partly hearing the war news of the day.
Thank you. Thomas, for inviting me to analyze. But better I give my heavy analyzing habit a break.
Talking about mirrors ๐ช๐ช, I prefer not to look at one. I often feel like a child or an adolescent. I don’t want the mirror to tell me otherwise. How dare it??? ๐ค (unexpected anger.. at the mirror).
๐ค ๐ช ๐ต ๐ถ ๐ ๐ช Anita
anitaParticipantGood afternoon, Confused:
I am glad that the new therapist seems nice and understanding, and that you keep taking the medication (and are in regular contact with the psychiatrist, right?).
I think that your plan or intent to “let” your feelings come back and no longer “chase” intense infatuation is healthy ๐
anitaParticipantDear Nichole:
Bogart is improving except when ๐ ๐ ๐ are involved. The other day I let him off the leash so that he could freely run as I’ve done before and it went well, before. This time, he got himself into a huge, dense, tall mass of thorny, sharp blackberries. Next, I hear him making horribly alarming barks, so, I am thinking he’s caught in the blackberries bleeding and calling for help.
And there’s just no way for a human to get into the blackberries (tens if not hundreds of thousands, dense blackberries) without special equipment and team work of some kind.
Fast forward, at the point where I’m beside myself, he finally showed up, no injuries. The Sounds he made- those were the calls of excitement a beagle makes when on the tracks of ๐ฐ ๐ฐ ๐ฐ
I am not letting him off the leash anymore, at least not close to that area!
“The flying ๐ ๐ ๐ coming out of the woodwork”- ha ha, you have a way with words, Nichole ๐
I ๐ค you more floating out of depression as you steer away of flying-monkeys-paths.
“Becoming more Me”- I like the idea behind it: Nichole becoming more.. looking forward to reading!
How do you “harass” your ๐?
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anitaParticipantGood ๐ Confused:
You pointed ๐ to your overthinking many times.
The psychiatrist you saw last prescribed an SSRI that is prescribed for overthinking (in greater dosage than what he prescribed according to the study I shared with you), and you’re thinking of seeing a therapist who specializes in OCD.
These are 2 sources of hope for you?
๐๐ค Anita
anitaParticipantThank you, Thomas for letting me know that Zen Stories are not meant to be analyzed.
“I Am, therefore, I analyze” is what I would have said in the past, but that’s a rigid, limitin belief (referring to Peter’s story).
I Am- I Notice, therefore I can coose to not analyze.
๐ Anita
anitaParticipantBeautifully said, Peter
Psychological Project (PP, lol)=> Simple Living Fact ๐
May the first become the last and the last become the first ๐
Overcoming-X, Fixing-X, (starting to slip)
Noticing- โ๏ธ
“In the quiet of the Id”- I imagine no one ever put these 6 words together.. and then Peter did ๐ก
I read your post on “Zen Stories” and connected it to here: I’ll Notice limiting, rigid beliefs as I (doubting an old metaphor I was about to use)..as I keep noticing.
“Two people noticing”- I like that even better than two people running on green grass ๐
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anitaParticipantGood morning, Peter:
“Even when there is noise and violence, there is a part of us that just notices… the โquiet Id.โโฆThe lowest chakra is the highest.. we return home (to) know it for the first time? The last shell be first and the first shell be last.. an inner fact?”-
I am in awe of your creative, original thinking, Peter.
In Freudโs theory, the Id is chaotic, primitive, impulsive. You softened and reframed the old meaning, using it as a new metaphor (Peter’s Original Metaphor- POM) for the deepest, quietest part; the steady, observing core of the selfโ the part that doesnโt get shaken.
You flipped the meaning completely.
You are saying that the deepest part of me is not wild, or broken, or chaotic, or in danger. This POM is revolutionary for me because it brings the abstract (up there) to the concrete (down to earth).
You are saying that my fear, anxiety, tension, that’s not the core of who I am. These were โfirstโ only because they formed early. But they are not the deepest truth or the final word, or the essence of me.
It, the Id, is the part that existed before fear, before danger, before breathโholding. Itโs my inner quiet, inner strength, inner home.
The outer, first shell is the anxious part, the breathโholding part, the dangerโscanning part, the part that reacts fast. This shell formed first in my life. The inner shell (the last shell) is the quiet, steady part, the part that notices without being shaken, the part that breathes naturally, the part that isnโt โgoodโ or โbadโ. The part that simply is
So far in my life, I tried to heal the first shell almost exclusively through one lens or frame (analysis of childhood, psychology). In a concrete way, you introduced to me a 2nd frame- to shift my attention from the first shell to the last.
.. The โlast shellโ (the quiet awareness) is actually the first in importance. The โfirst shellโ (the fear, the breathโholding) is actually the least true part of me โ just a protective layer.
Saying it yet again: fear is not my core. My quiet is my core: I am sensing an identity shift. This is not a matter of abstract spirituality for me. It’s a matter of shifting identity.
* So, when I feel tension, I can name it: ‘This tension is the outer shell.’ No judgment. No fixing. Just naming. Then bring my attention one layer deeper: ‘The inner shell is quiet.’- shifting my awareness from the anxious surface to the steady underneath.
“What if โexhalingโ isnโt a luxury, but… Something available to everyone with eyes that see and ears that hear?” (Peter)-
Shift the fightโorโflight reflex that says, ‘donโt let go.’, ‘don’t exhale’, => => => ‘I am life exhaling. It’s not something for me to control’, ‘Breath is happening. I donโt have to manage it. Or to earn it, or to wait for it’
Outer shell is tense. Inner shell is quiet. I am life exhaling.. I will let it all settle.
Thank you, Peter ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐
๐ฟโจ๐ Anita
anitaParticipantOh, Nichole, so good reading from you this St Patrick day/ night. B Back 2 u in the morning ( Bogart says hi)
anitaParticipantI’ll b Back 2 u Wed morn (Tues night here) ๐
anitaParticipant* should be a top priority? I don’t want you to suffer.
anitaParticipant“All this suffering in my head” is still you suffering.
Why is it that you no longer suffering be a top priority?
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