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Hi Alina,
What were your previous relationships like? Not wanting him next to you all the time as badly after some time is completely normal. It’s sort of just a normal progression of a long-term relationship and that happens with almost all of them. Long-distance relationships are hard though, so you may just be detaching from him now that you don’t see him as much.
I notice you said you had a bad past with an ex… is there maybe a part of you that doesn’t actually want to be in a relationship with someone who takes care of you and treats you well and that part of you craves the excitement of a bad relationship, so it wants you to self-sabotage your healthy relationship? Doubts aren’t always something that should be followed, especially when you have so much good to say about your boyfriend, and they can be coming from a place of fear, which would be something you need to heal inside yourself to feel better and it might not have to do with your boyfriend at all.
November 13, 2019 at 3:21 pm in reply to: Ex girlfriend with anxiety broke up with me to find herself/be alone #322897ValoraParticipantHello Valora,
Thank you for your reply. Your situation sounds extremely difficult and hard, I am sorry. I know it sounds selfish of me, but I hope my ex realizes that our relationship had grounded her and benefited her life, and did not create more anxiety on top of what she is experiencing. I just wish I could know what will happen in the future. All I know is I want her in my life…
Thank you, time and distance definitely made it easier, but it took a long time for me to feel okay. I think there did come a point where my ex realized that I wasn’t creating the anxiety or stress in his life, and he had improved a lot of things during our relationship that he struggled with before he’d met me, so I’m sure there will come a point where your ex realizes that as well… just be prepared for her to realize that and still not come back. On the other hand, plenty of couples break up for months or even sometimes several years and get back together after they’ve both done some growing, so you never know. Those couples that grew and changed during their separation reported a much better relationship the 2nd time around.
ValoraParticipantHi Alina!
The important thing to note here is that heart-racing/crazy feeling is not love. It’s just the excitement from the newness of the relationship as you’re learning about each other. Most people call that the “honeymoon phase.” That feeling will not last in any relationship that you have. Eventually, the newness wears off, and what you’re left with, if you’re compatible or a “match” for each other is an extreme fondness and a calming feeling. When you start feeling like the person is “home” to you and you just genuinely enjoy their company, that’s more like love than any butterflies or heart racing feeling (because heart racing and butterflies don’t last and it generally means the person makes you nervous, which naturally goes away when you get comfortable with the person). If you never felt heart racing or butterflies with your boyfriends, it’s most definitely because you are already comfortable with him which is actually a GREAT thing and an indicator that he is a good match for you… maybe even the perfect match if he treats you the way you want to be treated, is your best friend, and you get along well!
So maybe you’re doubting your relationship because our expectations from movies and quotes can tell us that there is supposed to be butterflies and heart palpitations and if they aren’t there, that something is wrong… but that’s not the case in real life at all. It’s the ones that make you feel comfortable, like you can truly be yourself with that person without being judged and that they will always have your back… the ones that make you feel calm, and happy, and you feel that warm “I’m home” feeling around them… THAT is the real-life, best kind of love. So if you have that, hang onto it.
There’s an old quote that I love and completely agree with:
“If you meet somebody and your heart pounds, your hands shake, your knees go weak, that’s not the one. When you meet your “soulmate,” you’ll feel calm. No anxiety, no agitation.”
ValoraParticipantYeah, I agree that you should let him go and I think it’d be a very good thing for you to do. I remember all of the posts you’ve made and it just sounds like he’s toying with you and taking advantage of you sometimes and don’t you deserve better than that? I’d definitely just write him off as toxic and cut contact.
November 13, 2019 at 10:00 am in reply to: Ex girlfriend with anxiety broke up with me to find herself/be alone #322845ValoraParticipantI can tell you that a very similar thing happened with my ex and I. He sort of blindsided me with a breakup, but it was during a year of intense struggle with physical and emotional pain and stress. He’d been diagnosed with PTSD, depression, and anxiety long before we ever dated and it was still a struggle for him.
The difference might be that he didn’t tell me he lost feelings for me and he’d said he still loved me deeply, but that he felt insecure when he compared himself to me (I was more financially secure, own my own home, etc., things he was struggling with)…. that he wasn’t happy and he needed to be alone to figure out how to be happy and to focus on doing whatever he could to get his life headed in the right direction… basically, he was looking for happiness outside of himself and felt the need to change everything in his life, and when people start feeling that way, the relationship is often one of the first things to go, even if it’s been a good one with a supportive partner. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater, so to speak.
My ex ended up dating someone else shortly after we broke up (I’m guessing being alone with his feelings wasn’t working well for him and he needed a distraction but didn’t want to come back to me because I was still part of the problems of his old life in his mind), but he still contacted me off and on throughout the first year after our breakup, really short conversations (wished me Happy Thanksgiving last year, for example), which said to me that he was still struggling with his feelings a bit because I think he started to realize that breaking up with me and pulling away from a bunch of his friends didn’t solve everything and he was still struggling. He ended up being diagnosed with a different disorder that he realized was causing some of his issues and apologized for not going to the doctor and figuring out what was wrong with him sooner. But he still continued to date the girl he was dating after me rather than coming back.
We have been broken up for a little over 2 years now, and we are still apart. I’m not sure whether he’s still with the other girl or not because I make it a point NOT to keep tabs on him. So while it’s possible (and probably likely) that your ex’s depression and anxiety are what caused her to ultimately break up with you, you can’t count on her coming back either. So I would begin the process of detaching from her and letting the relationship go, and if she does come back at some point, then get to know each other again and see how it goes, but make sure she’s worked through her issues or she will just do it again the next time she goes through a stressful situation (and adult life is FULL of those).
November 13, 2019 at 9:37 am in reply to: very confused-new girlfriend, ex-girlfrend. Help me please #322831ValoraParticipantI really hate this. I know it’s for the best, but part of me would rather suffer than see them all suffer.
My question to you is what good would this have really done? You’ve been suffering for the past year and a half and has anything gotten any better? or did it get worse? You letting them stay and continuing to suffer would’ve still caused them to suffer because you’ve all been suffering for a long time now. This was the only way for you all to be free of that suffering after the initial transition period.
Yes, it will take time for them all to adjust, but they will be fine and they will likely go back to living the way they did before you came into their lives. It’s just going to take some time for things to normalize, but it will, and they will be better off than you all trying to force something to work that wasn’t working.
I honestly think it would be better if you all cut contact. Her venting to you about things you absolutely cannot control (her family and her situation) is not helping you in any way and it’s also her way of being dependent on you. She is a grown woman and is going to have to handle this stuff herself because you didn’t force her into the situation she was in. She put herself and her kids there. At some point, you’re both going to have to accept that this wasn’t all you.
When my ex before her left me, it was cut and dry and DONE. no going back. She just left me hanging out to dry. That was the worst feeling in the world not knowing why someone could just give up that easily. Now i’m doing it to my current ex.
Your ex did you a favor by being cut, dry, and done. Every time she talked to you in any little way, it brought a ton of hope back and you’d obsess over it. Imagine if she’d remained in your life while continuing to see someone else. That would’ve been torture for you, wouldn’t it? Then it would’ve been “how can she talk to me every day but still want to be with someone else??” It would’ve just brought on a whole host of other issues.
Also, you are NOT doing that to your current ex. You’ve spent the last 9 months AT LEAST trying to break up with her, with her being in denial and doing everything she could to hold onto you, guilt trip you, and remain dependent on you. Psychologically, you cutting her off completely would be the best thing you could do for her because it would force her to improve in the same way your ex cutting you off forced you to take a look at yourself and your actions and improve. Struggle is sometimes the only way we learn, and you allowing your ex to continue to depend on you would be doing her a huge disservice… and I hope you take this to heart because I’m serious. You know that my ex left me the same way yours left you… just absolutely blindsided, but that struggle I went through caused me to grow in ways that I wouldn’t have if he’d stuck around and I am extremely grateful for that growth. Don’t deprive your ex of the chance to experience that kind of growth. You making things better or easier or even keeping in contact with her is going to deprive her of the chance for that kind of growth.
So do what you can to work through your feelings of guilt. If anything, you just did her a serious favor, even though it might not seem like it on the outside right now… give it time.
Meanwhile… you learn your lessons from this, too, and make sure you remember them so this doesn’t happen again… and don’t make the mistake of letting your own guilt and fears of looking/feeling like a terrible person deprive someone else of their chance to grow from their pain. Let this be a growth experience for BOTH of you.
I honestly feel like there is only one person for everyone and unfortunately that one person may not see that in you and see it in someone else.
I disagree with you here. I believe there is more than one person for everyone and that in order for you to have a consummate relationship, the person you end up with must come from your “soul tribe.” It’s believed we have more than one soul mate, and those are just people we connect with on a very deep level. They don’t even have to be romantic. Friends (even some of your guy friends or close family members) can be part of your soul tribe, who you connect with but aren’t romantically interested in. So the point is… your ex, who you felt this deeeeep connection with was likely from that soul tribe, but she was not the ONLY ONE from that soul tribe. At some point, if you work on yourself and remain single and focus on your growth and being the best you that you can be, you will meet someone who is part of that soul tribe who will be at the same point in their lives as you are, have the same goals, etc., and who will feel the same about you that you do about them… a match. That doesn’t mean there is only ONE match, you just need A match. So it’s okay to keep hope alive for that some day, but just pay close attention to your feelings and don’t get into a relationship with someone just to have a warm body and a distraction from your pain.
ValoraParticipantHi Zuls!
When you told him you need more effort, what did you say specifically? Did you generalize it as “I need more effort” or did you specifically say “I would like kisses hello and goodbye,” and “I’d like to go on a date twice a month (or whatever time frame)?” I think people do much better when they are given specifics, especially if they’re on a different page. He’s right that everyone loves differently. That’s why there are 5 “love languages” rather than just 1, so he may just not at all understand why you feel this way, but only because he doesn’t need the same things you do to feel loved.
So… if you were general with him, I would talk to him about it one more time. When you talk to him about it, don’t criticize (not saying you are, but just mentioning this because a lot of people do) or accuse, as in “You don’t put in much effort,” or “you won’t take me on dates,” as that can make the other person shut down and stop listening. Instead, frame the questions like I said above “I would really love it if you’d give me a kiss hello and goodbye.” “I would appreciate it so much if we could go on a date a couple times a month, that would really make me feel loved.” and go from there. Just that framing alone can make someone more receptive because we do want to please the ones we love, especially when they’re specifically telling us how to in such a loving way.
With that said, I don’t think you’re asking too much at all and I don’t think you need to shift your mindset either, because what you need to feel loved in a relationship is what you need (and that’s okay!) and what you’re looking for are really such simple, small things, but I think, if you haven’t already, you should make sure you are verbalizing to him specifically what you’d like him to do. However, if you’ve been specific with your needs and he just brushes it off and can’t do those simple things for you, I’d begin to further consider the option of leaving because you deserve to have your needs met, too. Perhaps he just needs a wake-up call in that case to shake him out of the comfort zone he’s in.
ValoraParticipantHi K,
I think what may be happening here is you’re trying to rush your healing. You just want to feel better now, right? But healing from heart break takes time, it’s really a grieving process, and sometimes it feels better to just accept that and let yourself feel how you feel without worrying about feeling any other way, at least for a while. Depending on how long your relationship was, 3 weeks is a pretty short amount of time, and I think it’s totally normal to still be feeling the way you do after that long. But if you take this time now to grieve the loss of your relationship and the hopes that you had for it and don’t rush yourself when it comes to feeling better, even if it takes months, you then allow yourself to FULLY get over it and will be able to move on then and feel completely better. Just be patient with yourself. It’s okay to grieve.
Also, I’ve learned that this happens a lot, people being blindsided when their relationships end, feeling so in love and not knowing how someone can just walk away. The issue is usually with the person who did the walking away. Sometimes there is something missing in themselves that they’re trying to find externally rather than looking within and healing whatever in them needs to be healed. Sometimes they need to play the field more before they’ll be ready to settle down. Sometimes they really are afraid of commitment and will jump from relationship to relationship until they finally decide to overcome their fears, if ever. There are a lot of reasons why people do this kind of thing, and, from what I’ve seen, it usually doesn’t have anything to do with the other person, so try to be kind to yourself when it comes to that, too. Dating is hard and a lot of people are walking around with wounds that they never took the time to heal (like when people jump from relationship to relationship instead of going through the grieving process), which just leads to them self-sabotaging future relationships. It ends up being a cycle until they finally decide to break it, and you likely just got caught up in someone else’s cycle of pain like so many of us have.
November 1, 2019 at 8:52 am in reply to: very confused-new girlfriend, ex-girlfrend. Help me please #320845ValoraParticipantIt sounds like things are headed in the right direction with your “roommate” and her kids. My daughter’s father had a similar situation with a women he dated for 4 years and her daughter. He was kind of the only father she’d ever known and he helped raise her throughout her teenage years and she and my daughter also developed a bond, so she comes and visits from time to time, spends a weekend here and there, and it definitely has gotten lesser over time as she’s gotten older and is now in college. It’s worked out really well for all of them, so I’m glad to hear you’re open to that kind of situation, too, because it really does make it easier on the kids when splits like this happen.
Like you said, who knows why and the intention, but you never know what could come of this. I am not going to push for anything or try to make anything happen. I’m just going to focus on myself and learn to love myself again. Maybe in time i will get back to the man I was and my ex will see that and reach out? OR maybe she is truly in love with her man and she will be with him forever, Or maybe i will eventually find someone else that does fit me, or maybe in the end I will learn how to be just friends.
Exactly! This is a very healthy way to look at this situation! Just see it as a stepping stone, which is sort of the universe’s way of guiding whatever you need in and out of your life. The fact she seems to be establishing a friendship with someone who is connected to you may be the universe’s (or God, as I like to believe) way to keep the connection alive from a distance for when you’ve both reached a point in your lives where you could have a successful relationship without so many things getting in the way (and don’t forget… you weren’t the only one that needed to improve for that relationship to work. She did, too, and you need to be able to see the growth in her)…. or it could also just be a way for you to find out that she’s not what your mind has been dreaming up, but that’s to your benefit too because you’ll end up feeling better. There’s no way to know for sure which it is, so it’s best to just go with the flow on these things until time reveals the meaning. And no matter what happens, focusing on yourself and learning to love you again will lead you to wherever you need to go to find the relationship you want. Because that needs to happen first.
In the meantime, if it hurts to see her posting, you might want to hide your friend’s wife from your feed for a bit. That way you won’t have to see it.
October 31, 2019 at 8:28 pm in reply to: very confused-new girlfriend, ex-girlfrend. Help me please #320779ValoraParticipantHi John! I want to apologize. I didn’t see your post from the 24th, so that’s why I didn’t respond to it. Sometimes the page doesn’t bring new posts to the top, but I agree that you should definitely keep writing even when you don’t get a response.
It sounds like you are in sort of a roommate situation with her now, so that’s a step forward, and it also seems like she’s not so much in denial. I hope she’s able to find someplace to go soon, and I think it was a good idea for her to move into her son’s room.
As for your ex, I understand why you would feel upset about your best friend’s wife seemingly having a friendship with her, but I’m sure your best friend’s wife also knows you’ve been wanting your ex back all this time, right? So she may not realize how upset you would be about them being friends. Aside from that… what if you look at this another way… what if this is a stepping stone for her to come back into your life. I’m not saying to read into it or to count on this as a way for you to get back together (so be sure to manage your expectations when I say this), but maybe it’s not really a bad thing. Maybe if your best friend’s wife gets along with or likes her now, that means she’s grown up some and is showing more maturity. And keep in mind, you still have to deal with the situation you’re in too and be single for a while to get back to feeling like yourself, but try to see this friendship in a positive light. There’s always a possibility that it could bode well for in the distant future, either as a way for you two to get to know each other again OR what if you learn more about her from your friend’s wife and realize you don’t like how she’s changed and she’s not the person you’ve built her up in your head to be and that helps you to finally get fully over her and move on. Perhaps this will help you see her in whatever light you truly need to see her in to feel better overall about that situation. Either way, I’d try to look at it from another perspective so you don’t feel upset and just go with the flow on this one because you just never know what may come of it.
Anyway, I think you’re on a good track with your girlfriend, and I would even suggest you guys agree to stop calling each other girlfriend/boyfriend and now you’re just roommates. She might realize even more that she doesn’t not want to be a roommate with her ex and that might help her to find a place quicker.
ValoraParticipantYours,
It really sounds to me like your needs aren’t being met in this relationship, so it’s not actually a good relationship, even though things are fine and stable. Having your needs met are important and from what you’ve said in the 2nd post, it sounds like your partner isn’t very willing to do this. This really makes you two incompatible. What do you think?
ValoraParticipantAre you sure being single is what you really want/need if you always immediately jump into another relationship or do you feel there is something lacking in your life (likely within yourself) that you might be able to find if you just take more time to focus on yourself and your wants while you’re in this relationship?
Your boyfriend sounds like he’s really reasonable and loves you, so it sounds like if you just talk to him about needing a little more “me time” alone to figure yourself out, I bet he would give that to you without much of an issue. Then just take that time to yourself to dig deep into your feelings/emotions and figure out WHY you’re a people please or why you always feel the need to break up after some time (which actually, Anita on this message board could probably help you with. She’s good at helping people to dive into those things because a lot of it has to do with things that happened when we were younger). Look for ways to help you be and feel more assertive rather than being a people pleaser. I ended up going through counseling to help me with that because I used to be a people pleaser, too, and also used to overthink, so perhaps if counseling is an option for you, that might be extremely helpful in that way, too.
I think the wall that goes up and your indecision may be your intuition telling you that breaking up with him might not be the right decision, especially if your relationship is good overall. It’s possible to find yourself while you’re in a relationship, so maybe that’s what you should focus on instead of being single (especially because being single itself won’t help you find yourself), and then see how you feel after some time.
ValoraParticipantWhat kind of things does he do and say that hurt you and that you feel are insensitive?
By your description, it doesn’t sound so much like part of his personality profile, but more like he’s just being a closed off jerk who has some growing up to do. It’s also possible that you may be being TOO needy with your feelings, so he may be feeling overwhelmed and closes off. It’s hard to tell with just your description so would you be willing to provide some examples?
I agree with him about not texting at work though. It’s quite possible he has a job where that could get him into trouble or he cannot respond anyway so that would be one more way he would have to ignore you.
Also, I’m an INFJ, too 🙂 I am very careful about who I choose to date because I also tend to need words of affirmation and I love a lot of care, so I make sure the guys I date tend to naturally do those things. It makes things a lot easier because it isn’t really something you can pull out of a man who is not sensitive.
ValoraParticipantHi Frey,
I suggest reading on trauma bonding. You can find articles on it on blogs like Psychology Today. Given what you’ve said, that might be what you’ve experienced and also why you’re finding it so hard to detach from them.
Also do what you can to distance yourself more. Stop checking their social media, block them entirely. Don’t allow yourself to be tempted. Looking at their social media is one way you’re holding on, and stopping that immediately is one thing you can do right away to help yourself detach. There will be more advice in the readings on trauma bonding, so I’m sure it would help you, too, to read up on that and see what resonates with you most.
ValoraParticipantHi Arhadna,
I agree with Anita and Inky. This man is one who likes to have complete control, and you are someone that he has found he cannot completely control, so he no longer wants to be around you just like he doesn’t want to be around anyone else he can’t control. He HAS to be in control of the people in his life.
You were right to not let him control you. You did the right things here. This is a blessing for you to have gotten away from someone like this. You formed an attachment when you two had gotten so close, and it will take some time and distance from him for that to dissolve and for you to feel more detached, but once you do, you will feel better and will likely see this for the blessing that it is. Good riddance!
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