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  • #302109
    Brandy
    Participant

    Hi Mikaylia,

    Three huge decisions were made by you and your coworker within what seems to be a relatively short period of time: 1) to start an affair 2) to separate from your spouses 3) to divorce your spouses. Now that his divorce is final, it could be that he’s suddenly seeing clearly how his (impulsive?) decisions have affected others, including his children. Maybe this realization has hit him like a ton of bricks.

    Asking to get your things hasn’t ruined your chances with him. I don’t think his behavior has anything to do with you. What I’d do is give him all the space he needs. Pick up your things, tell him you love/miss him, and leave. Give him a chance to regain his footing.

    B

    #302117
    Mark
    Participant

    Mikaylia,

    Common therapeutic wisdom is to never start a new relationship until the current one is totally over.  The rule-of-thumb is to date one year (4 seasons) after the divorce has been finalized (not after separation), i.e. divorce papers have been signed.

    You both cheated (I am assuming that neither respective still-married spouses knew about the affair) which made a shaky foundation for a new relationship to begin with.  This is an observation not a judgement.

    I would think that if the relationship hinges on whether or not you ask him about your things then it is not a strong relationship to begin with.  Having clear and empathetic communication in any relationship is key.  If his way to communicate is to avoid, shut out, and ghost then that makes for a sucky way of having a close and caring relationship. However I do not think that is the reason.

    His pulling back probably is his realization that now he is single that he is free to figure out who he is without a partner.  This is why therapists recommend a year after the divorce so that the person can freely and fully explore who they are as an unattached individual rather than being tied to another person/partner.  There also has to be a period of separation and grief regardless of how “done” they were with the marriage.  It is still quite an adjustment not to be married anymore especially if you were married for a long time.

    Mark

    • This reply was modified 5 years, 9 months ago by Mark.
    #302133
    Inky
    Participant

    Hi Mikalia,

    Now that he is divorced, this is the first time he’s been himself, single, for quite a long time.

    You made two mistakes: seeing him while he was technically married and moving in with him.

    You, my dear, represent the end of his marriage, the end of a time of life. Not the beginning of a new one.

    Everyone gets hung up on the Things. Things are things. Not pawns for hostage negotiations. He’s grieving the end of his marriage, and/or figuring out his new way of life, and you go asking about the banality of Things. He is not fooled. He knows that the talk of your Relationship (or lack thereof) is inevitable.

    I say pick up your Things, tell him you have to run (school play/sick mother/picking kid up/something in the oven). This way he will talk about the relationship at a later date. If he wants to. If he chooses to.

    Then ghost him as long as he had ghosted you. A few weeks later, perhaps return a text.

    Then begin again. If you’d want to??

    Best,

    Inky

    #302153
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Mikalia:

    What excellent three replies you received!

    This time in his life, leading to the divorce and post divorce, is a troubled, painful time for him. I tend to think that he associates you with that troubled, painful time, like Inky suggested and so, he withdrew from you. As he interacts with his ex wife and children, you may be considered the problem by all of them.

    That’s what happens when you date and live with a married man with children, and his wife and children know about you,  you get to be the Problem in the minds of all of them.

    I hope to read more from you.

    anita

    #302165
    Peggy
    Participant

    Dear Mikalia,

    When you met, you and this person were both looking for something that your respective marriages weren’t providing.  Before long, you moved in together and all the children became involved.  Children want their parents together and resent the intrusion of another person into what was their family unit.  This is bound to cause tensions.

    At this stage, I would advise that you collect your things as arranged and try to avoid discussing this non-existent relationship.  People get depressed when their lives don’t go to plan.  Divorce signals the end of all your hopes and dreams for the future that you once shared with your spouse.  It’s a loss and there is a grieving process to go through.  You don’t have a choice other than to let this happen.

    I know it’s tough when you’ve invested your emotions into someone but you now have to withdraw as this person has done.  I’m afraid there is nothing you can do to make this relationship work.  It’s in the past.  You can live in hope that he might come back to you one day or you can move on.

    Peggy

     

    #302169
    Mikaylia
    Participant

    Reading everyone’s responses was more calming for me, I’m dedicated to picking up my things, telling him I miss him and love him, then leaving without discussing our relationship because either way he’s not in a good place mentally to make any decisions about us at this time.

    Im gonna give him space and if he wants me back, he’ll come to me.

    #302177
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Mikaylia:

    As you gather your things, maybe it is a good idea to tell him that you understand that he is not in a good place, that he needs his space, that you love him but you will be giving him space, hoping he will be back to you, but knowing it may not happen, that he may not be back to you.

    Then ask him if you understood correctly. If he says Yes, then you know the situation, if he says No, listen to what he says and post his answer here, if you want input on it.

    anita

    #302195
    Mikaylia
    Participant

    Anita-

    Thank you so much! I feel like this is the perfect thing to say! I will keep you updated.

    • This reply was modified 5 years, 9 months ago by Mikaylia.
    #302209
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Mikaylia:

    You are very welcome. I will be looking forward to your update!

    * will be back to the computer in about 17 hours from now.

    anita

    #302225
    Peggy
    Participant

    Hi Mikaylia,

    I hope your plan works out.  I just wanted to put forward a word of caution – If you make yourself too available, this person can dally for as long as he wants to.  As you and Anita seem to have formed a strong connection, I will end my posts here.

    All the best

    Peggy

    #302459
    Mikaylia
    Participant

    I was hoping to get closure today, but 30 minutes before I was supposed to come over to get my things he said “Hey, I’m not sure tonight will work I’ve gotta go to the expo (forgot the rodeo was going on this week).”

    #302469
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Mikayia:

    Yes, the rodeo was going here too last Saturday, maybe still. Well, too  bad, have patience, and make a second appointment with him. Post here anytime you want to share about what you think and how you feel. I will be glad to read and reply to you.

    anita

    #302479
    Mikaylia
    Participant

    He called me on the phone tonight and said “he couldn’t be with me because his parents would never approve because of the affair we had and he couldn’t be dating a coworker.” But that there were serious feelings there.

    #302487
    Brandy
    Participant

    Mikaylia,

    It must have been awful to hear those words from him. I hope you are okay.

    B

    #302527
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Mikaylia:

    In your original post you wrote: “Our living together was also causing tension in his divorce because his kids would talk about me to his ex and it would infuriate her”-

    – likely she told his parents and maybe other people as well, and not in an approving way, to put it mildly, but in a very disapproving, angry way. So you have his parents (and his children) with a bad taste in their mouths as they think of you. See?

    I don’t think there is anything at all that you can do, not for as long as he cares about what his parents think. Most adults care about that, and he seems to care.

    I don’t understand why he doesn’t deliver your stuff to you ASAP, or have you pick those up as soon as possible. Do you understand this part?

    anita

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