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  • #455871
    Confused
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    Hey anita, it’s 12:25 (night) here in Greece!

    Oh so it’s gonna hopefully stop my ruminations and let me feel something finally!

    Did u have a hard time quitting? How come u stayed for that long on them?

    I think i’ve seen this post in here you’re talking about, the ocean, etc. I guess that’s one way of looking at things, but i think i gotta be open to love first, and right now i am not feeling it sadly πŸ™

    So u basically mean that we CHOOSE to love and act on it, rather than wait on the feelings that come and go?

    #455872
    anita
    Participant

    Wow, Confused: you are Greek? If you were born in Greece and live there, then you are a short distance from where I was born and grew up in (Israel).

    It’s only yesterday that I talked in real-life to a man born in Greek He’s very much a proud of his heritage, knows a whole lot of history of Greece and talks about it.

    Some of my favorite time was visiting Greece back in my 20s.

    As to Zoloft, why I was on it for so long- good question. The psychiatrist told me that the prognosis was that I will always be depressed, lifetime. He was wrong, just to show you that psychiatrists can be wrong.

    It was not difficult to get off Zoloft. It was very difficult to get off the Clonazepam (Klonipin) I took together with Zoloft.

    I’ll write more later.

    #455875
    anita
    Participant

    Yes, Confused: in my mind, love is about Choice, a series of choices, every day. It’s about the words we choose and actions we take.

    It’s about acting according to what we value rather than reacting to “feelings that come and go”.

    βš“οΈ Anita

    #455877
    Confused
    Participant

    Yeah i’m from Greece and i live here πŸ™‚ , haha is it that short you think?

    Almost every greek is proud of the heritage and stuff, sad thing is now this is the only thing we have to be proud of πŸ™

    Which place did u visit?

    I guess doctors can be wrong many times yeah.. Was the withdrawl symptoms hard on the klonipin?

    I can try practicing that but at the moment it feels off πŸ™
    even tho i have moments that i feel something

    #455879
    anita
    Participant

    I took the train from Amsterdam to Milane, from there to Venice, from there to Rome, to Athens, and from there to Crete. And from Crete to Cyprus and from there, to Israel, a short distance away by boat.

    Yes, Klonipin (a Benzodiazepine which is supposed to be taken for a few months top- but was prescribed to me for 17 years).. that was very hard.

    The SSRI was not hard to get off.

    Anita

    #455884
    Confused
    Participant

    Oh that’s quite the trip, i’ve never been to Crete, been in cyprus-athens tho πŸ™‚

    That must have been a heavy drug then. I am wondering how the SSRI is gonna work on me

    #455888
    anita
    Participant

    Good morning (7 am here, West coast, U.S.A- by the time I submit this message), Good afternoon (4 pm in Greece):

    You asked about withdrawal from Klonipin (generic name: Clonazepam) in your previous message. It was very difficult. I kept lowering amounts and stopping altogether only to take it again for the longest time because of the feeling of panic and insomnia when withdrawing.

    I did a little study this morning on SSRIs and their effect on MDD & OCD. Here it is:

    SSRIs increase serotonin availability in the brain, which can reduce symptoms of major depressive disorder (MDD) and obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD). They are considered first‑line treatments for both conditions.

    Escitalopram (Lexapro, in the U.S.) is widely studied and is considered one of the more effective and better‑tolerated SSRIs for major depression. A 2023 systematic review found escitalopram superior to several other antidepressants in acute‑phase treatment of MDD.

    Many people begin noticing improvement within 2–4 weeks, with full effects often taking 6–8 weeks.

    OCD generally requires higher SSRI doses and longer treatment duration than depression.

    SSRIs are effective for 40–60% of people with OCD. Improvement often takes 8–12 weeks, sometimes longer.

    Many clinicians gradually increase SSRIs to the maximum tolerated dose for OCD because lower doses may not be sufficient. This is consistent with expert guidance that OCD often responds better to higher SSRI exposure.

    Escitalopram at 10 mg is the standard starting and therapeutic dose for major depressive disorder. Many people respond well at this dose. For OCD, 10 mg may help, but OCD typically requires higher doses (e.g., 20 mg or more) for optimal effect.

    Whether 10 mg is appropriate depends on the individual, their symptoms, side‑effect tolerance, and a clinician’s judgment.

    Any dose changes should always be guided by a healthcare professional.

    Most SSRIs share a similar side‑effect profile. Many effects are mild and improve over time, especially in the first 1–2 weeks.

    * I was on Sertraline (Zoloft, in the U.S.), one of the most studied SSRIs for OCD, “Flexible dosing up to 200 mg, which is important because OCD often needs higher doses”, I read today (I was on 400 mg for years!)

    For a much shorter time, I was on another SSRI: Fluoxetine (Prozac).

    πŸ§ͺ πŸ’Š 🧫 Anita

    #455915
    Confused
    Participant

    Hey anita

    Oh damn, i guess after such a long usage it was expected πŸ™ glad you went through it and you’re ok now!

    I read about the dosage and the results, but sometimes i doubt if what i am going through now is even depression.. I havent cried in a week almost, sadness is completely gone, i can’t get sad with anything right now, i mostly feel empty and irritated maybe, i even doubt if i had OCD, even if i had been obsessively checking feelings/crying for the past 4 months.. Mine is Tepram 10mg which is the same i guess.
    Doctor booked me an appointment in two weeks to see how im feeling, but he said he believes it’s not gonna cover my symptoms.

    #455926
    anita
    Participant

    Hey πŸ‘‹ Confused:

    Things are not black and white/ all or nothing (binary thinking) when it comes to mental health. You can be depressed and obsessive without fitting neatly into either diagnosis.

    “It’s not gonna cover my symptoms”- I don’t understand

    πŸ€” Anita

    #455927
    Confused
    Participant

    I guess you are right, things come and go in waves..

    He was referring to the rumination/compulsive thinking and stuff.

    #455929
    anita
    Participant

    Well, Confused. the Lexarpo he prescribed can help. The rumination, oh, how wonderful if it’d be gone, wouldn’t it?

    Lerxarpo became a thing after my time, an improved prescription.

    What’s important is how you feel, that you place your own interest high above. Be on your side, Make yourself the most important person- not in her life- but in your own.

    πŸ·πŸŒ™πŸ€βœ¨οΈ Anita

    #455930
    Confused
    Participant

    I hope it will, people say it needs 4-6 weeks to see results, i am on day 4 now πŸ™‚
    But what do we mean exactly when we say rumination? Thinking of the past?

    I think i feel empty/drained.

    #455932
    Thomas168
    Participant

    The word rumination makes me think of someone who is deep in memories of negative feelings. Such thinking can only drain one of feelings and strength. Much like Cancer patients who go thru Chemo therapy. Their body has been fighting the good fight and is exhausted. Your thoughts do affect the body. The body stores that energy. But if the thoughts and feelings are in conflict then the body can be drained of energy.

    I hope you are taking care of your health. Remember that one doesn’t need to feel the emotions all the time to have the emotion in their body. For example, I love my wife. But, I don’t always feel that love in my head. Then there are times when I am holding her next to me that the love surges into my body. One can not always be on the up swing. There has to be times of rest. Don’t dwell on the negative energy. Well, Sorry about my two cents. It is like my foot is attracted to my mouth.

    #455942
    anita
    Participant

    Thomas, you are responsible for the firstπŸ˜„ on my face this morning, “It is like my foot is attracted to my mouth”, LOL.

    Hey Confused: Rumination is thinking too much, to the point that the thinking is not useful and even harmful. That’s how I define it.

    🦢 Anita

    #455943
    Confused
    Participant

    Hey guys

    I think i am deep in ruminating for the past 4 months, thinking of how good things were, how i was feeling, all the positive emotions, comparing to the emptiness of the present and it has definitely been harmful..
    Is it reversible or the damage done is permanent?

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