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October 11, 2025 at 8:46 pm #450825
anita
ParticipantThank you for your intelligent thoughts, Thomas. I appreciate you! And I will post more in the morning (Sat night here, almost midnight where you’re at)
😴 🥱 😪 Anita
October 11, 2025 at 9:08 pm #450826anita
ParticipantWhat I did figure out since I posted last is that, yes, I was a bad person when I said to S: “Why don’t you punch me in the face?”
I provoked her to punch me, to bruise my face, break my nose, and I provoked her to get herself into legal trouble, maybe get herself into jail.
So, yes- when I said what I said, at that moment, I was a bad person.
More tomorrow.
Anita
October 12, 2025 at 9:00 am #450834Thomas168
ParticipantIf you prick us, do we not bleed? if you tickle us, do we not laugh? if you poison us, do we not die? and if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?”
― William Shakespeare, The Merchant of VeniceOctober 12, 2025 at 9:43 am #450836anita
ParticipantExcellent quote, Thomas. I want to think about this quote, particularly about the last part, “if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?” and write more about it later. Thank you, Thomas!
🤍🌿 Anita
October 13, 2025 at 8:03 am #450875Thomas168
ParticipantHow can a person be bad when they are reacting to the situation that has come up. When attacked, one defends themselves. Hind sight doesn’t change the facts. It only changes the way we look at it. If on the other hand you were well aware of your situation and had a different choice available to you, at the time, to diffuse the tension then you could say you made a bad choice. However, it still doesn’t make you a bad person. This character in your personality makes it possible for one to turn the other cheek. Yeah, not being a bad person. The fact that you are considering your position makes you not a bad person. The personal reckoning is learning that you have a fault and go about making changes from what you have learnt. You know the kind of person you are. Be a little more forgiving. Sorry, that is just my opinion.
October 13, 2025 at 11:44 am #450885anita
ParticipantDear Thomas:
Your opinion is valid here. Thank you for caring to offer it to me. I appreciate you 🙏
“The fact that you are considering your position makes you not a bad person.”- yes, now, so far today, I am a good person. But back on Sunday before last, at that moment of confrontation (challenging her to punch me in the face 😢), I was a bad person.
It doesn’t mean that I am permanently bad, just that I was back then, judging by the impact/ results of my words.
I will continue my journey in this thread later on.
🤍🌿 Anita
October 14, 2025 at 10:50 am #450905Alessa
ParticipantHi Anita
What if you said that because you felt that was what she wanted to do?
If someone doesn’t have those feelings they will not act on what someone says. They will just be calm or confused.
❤️
October 14, 2025 at 12:08 pm #450908anita
ParticipantThank you for your input, Alessa. I’ll get back to you later. ❤️
October 14, 2025 at 12:17 pm #450909Peter
ParticipantHi Anita
it takes courage to revisit situations that didn’t go the way we hoped. I might challenge your use of labeling language of bad and good and offer a reframing: one moment doesn’t define who you are. You’re not a “bad” or “good” person, you’re a human being who made a mistake and is learning from it.Seen through that lens, you sidestep common thinking traps like labeling, all-or-nothing thinking, overgeneralization, and emotional reasoning. And you give yourself a little more space.
October 14, 2025 at 7:37 pm #450921anita
ParticipantDear Aleesa: You are making a valid point- yes, I did feel that was what she wanted to do (to punch me in the face). I sincerely believe that she chose me as a convenient target for her anger. She was angry, frustrated, wanting to quit for some time before Sunday before last- and there I was, accommodating, eager to please her.. so, she.. used me, really to make her exit.
Dear Peter: “one moment doesn’t define who you are.”- thank you, and yes, this is my point: during that one moment, I was a bad person (challenging her for a fight, and in front of customers). Understanding this was true to that moment frees me from the binary, all or nothing thinking that I’m always bad. Just on that one moment or two..
I have felt calm ever since I labeled myself bad in that moment or two, setting myself free from labelling myself Bad Always, as a permanent state of being. I hope you understand me.
🤍🌿 Anita
October 15, 2025 at 12:58 pm #450952anita
ParticipantHello Everyone:
Bad= Harmful.
I was bad= harmful many times when angry.
I forgive myself for all those times- while holding myself accountable for my words & behavior today, tomorrow, and every day moving forward.
*** I need to be careful, to pay attention when I am feeling angry: to-
Do No Harm While Under the Influence of Anger.
I forgive myself for all those times in the past- while holding myself accountable today.
(A relief)
In regard to those irl who had severely harmed me- forgiving them is not my job, not my duty to spend yet.. more time on them.
My focus is on being a good person today and every day, genuinely, sincerely.. truly yours.
Anita
October 18, 2025 at 10:43 am #451045anita
ParticipantDear Tee:
“I like your honesty about your thoughts process while writing your previous post to me… It’s good that you notice those thoughts and feelings and can speak openly about them. And I can assure you I won’t shame you, Anita. There’s nothing to be ashamed of in you openly sharing how you’re feeling and what your fears might still be regarding our communication. I appreciate your honesty 🫶”-
Thank you 🙏 🙏 🙏 🫶 🫶 🫶 🙏 🙏 🙏 !!!
“Probably your hypervigilance stems from your mother, who you say would attack you for just about anything you said (or didn’t say), even for your facial expressions… So you weren’t allowed to express yourself, to simply be, be a child, expressing yourself, laughing, crying, playing, talking to your mother.. None of that was allowed”-
I lived in a prison, life put on hold for a later time when it’d be allowed. There were times though, I remember, I was an older teenager or in my early 20s, still living with her, that I exploded with laughter, genuine laughter, a long-awaiting joy.. never when with her alone. Moments of feeling positively alive. A breath of fresh air.
“because of your mother’s severe mental health problems, it seems.”- yes, my analysis (and I am feeling confident about it), she suffered from- and inflicted suffering- from this combo of personality disorders: Narcissistic, Histrionic, Paranoid, Borderline and Obsessive- Compulsive.
“You were exposed to both physical and psychological abuse, and you had no one to help you, since your father left when you were six, while people from the neighborhood didn’t react (it wasn’t socially acceptable to “poke one’s nose” in other people’s child rearing). You had a good uncle (you said he asked you once something about yourself – he was interesting in getting to know you), but I guess he didn’t know about the extent of the abuse that you were suffering?”-
Thank you for remembering all of this. The uncle, Uncle Morris, he lived hours away, so he couldn’t have heard her yelling at me, or beating me, and he was in no contact with the neighbors who did. With him, M was soft-spoken, nice.. But I clearly remember her sitting to his right when he asked me a question about me, looking at me threateningly, with that mild smile on her face. That’s why I didn’t answer him. I said something polite, but didn’t answer.
“I’m very sorry, Anita, for you truly where all alone in those horrible circumstances, left to your own devices to manage the best you can. To survive, basically.”- thank you, Tee.
“And you did survive, but or course, the trauma remained and it’s still affecting you to some extent. (Just to say that my C-PTSD is still present too. I still have parts of my life where I’m lead by fear and am having a hard time making a breakthrough. So it can be a decades-long process, unfortunately.)”-
Thank you for sharing about parallels or similarities in your life, your process. It makes me feel like I am not alone.
“So the question is how to heal. And of course, my answer is always: healing the inner child..”- this made me smile just now. Of course.. Tee and Inner Child healing go together like peas and carrots 🙂
(I just got scared that you’d be offended by this culinary saying.. it’s a saying I like to use).
“You’ve shared parts of your internal dialogue in your own thread (“A Personal Reckoning”), where you did the inner child exercise. You’ve shared what your inner child said, and also what some other parts said, including your adult self. I might have some remarks about that, but I’m not sure if I should comment on it, since you said you want only witnessing, not advice or analysis? So I’m refraining from that, unless you’re comfortable with me giving you feedback. I’ll respect that.”-
Thank you!
I trust you enough to invite you to talk to my inner child directly. I have never invited anyone to do that. I know you will be gentle with her (there are tears in my eyes as I am typing this). She can’t handle criticism.. she shouldn’t (that’s my job, the adult me, to hold myself accountable. Not her job).
No one outside of me ever spoke to her, or had a conversation with her. Please do talk to her.
“It’s okay, Anita. I’m happy that you could step back from your own pain and see a bigger picture. I’m happy you’re open to self-reflection and personal reckoning, as you said. I think you’re doing a great job in being brave and open with all of your feelings. I think it means you’re developing compassion for yourself, which is the key in healing. It’s really good to talk to you and share in your healing process ❤️”-
Thank you for your grace, nothing that I (the adult) deserved, but something you offered anyway. This is the nobility of your character ❤️.
I will soon be away from the computer for the rest od the day.. It’s strange how I can start a day outside when I am so drained from this.. vulnerability. It’s still scary: to be me.. and not be attacked for it? A scary miracle.
Gratefully yours, Anita
October 19, 2025 at 4:32 am #451061Tee
ParticipantDear Anita,
You’re welcome!
I lived in a prison, life put on hold for a later time when it’d be allowed. There were times though, I remember, I was an older teenager or in my early 20s, still living with her, that I exploded with laughter, genuine laughter, a long-awaiting joy.. never when with her alone. Moments of feeling positively alive. A breath of fresh air.
Good to hear that, Anita! It means she didn’t manage to kill all the joy in you. There was still life in you, and it would bubble up sometimes, when you were alone, when she couldn’t see you or hear you. And perhaps that life was what motivated you to move across the world from your mother and seek happiness there? In a new, far-away place where her abuse cannot reach you?
yes, my analysis (and I am feeling confident about it), she suffered from- and inflicted suffering- from this combo of personality disorders: Narcissistic, Histrionic, Paranoid, Borderline and Obsessive- Compulsive.
Yes, that’s tough. What’s hard about it that she seemed to have been functional otherwise, i.e. she didn’t seem like someone with mental health issues on the outside, right? I mean, she could pretend in front of other people that she is a kind, caring person, and a kind, caring mother, right? (except for what the neighbors heard sometimes…). You said she was “soft-spoken, nice” with your uncle, for example.
And that’s I guess the narcissistic part: where the person can pretend to be certain way, which is socially acceptable. Where they can keep a certain public image, which is totally different than how they are in private.
So it was only you (and I guess your sister) who knew how your mother actually is. I know you’ve talked about your sister before, but I don’t remember if your mother treated you two differently? Was she equally harsh and abusive to your sister too?
I clearly remember her sitting to his right when he asked me a question about me, looking at me threateningly, with that mild smile on her face. That’s why I didn’t answer him. I said something polite, but didn’t answer.
Right. You knew you weren’t allowed to say anything that would be “unacceptable” to her, which probably meant anything genuine about yourself. She had a mild expression on her face, but you knew how she is underneath… and so of course, you didn’t dare to be honest with your uncle.
Thank you for sharing about parallels or similarities in your life, your process. It makes me feel like I am not alone.
You’re welcome, Anita, you’re definitely not alone. ❤️ There are a lot of similarities in how we were brought up, even though it was harder for you. But mine too is a decades-long battle, years and years of working on myself and gradually healing. And there are still blocks that I’m working on, although things are getting better…
this made me smile just now. Of course.. Tee and Inner Child healing go together like peas and carrots 🙂
(I just got scared that you’d be offended by this culinary saying.. it’s a saying I like to use).
Hehe, yes 🙂 Actually I wanted to put a smiley at the end of that sentence (“And of course, my answer is always: healing the inner child..“). So no offense here at all, healing the inner child is my go-to answer for most big problems 🙂
I trust you enough to invite you to talk to my inner child directly. I have never invited anyone to do that. I know you will be gentle with her (there are tears in my eyes as I am typing this). She can’t handle criticism.. she shouldn’t (that’s my job, the adult me, to hold myself accountable. Not her job).
No one outside of me ever spoke to her, or had a conversation with her. Please do talk to her.
Actually I didn’t think to talk to your inner child directly. I thought you would do that… I just wanted to notice that it seems your inner child is still looking for validation from your mother (based on your post on Oct 10, 12:45pm). The little girl Anita believes she is bad and she wants her mother to love her and tell her she is not bad:
I hate being bad. I don’t want to be bad. Help me, help me be good.
Sounded so true, 100% true.. Am I BAD.. Make HER say I am not bad. Make her say I am not…
The little girl Anita is still looking for something (love and validation) from her mother – which unfortunately she most likely won’t receive. Her mother (your mother) doesn’t seem to be capable of that.
I can imagine that looking for validation from your mother is what might be keeping you stuck in the feeling of “not good enough”, the feeling of worthlessness, “badness”.
You’d need to release that longing and “radically accept” that you cannot get it from your mother. That she just isn’t capable of giving it to you. And that it doesn’t make you a bad person, or a bad daughter.
I wonder how this sounds to you?
Thank you for your grace, nothing that I (the adult) deserved, but something you offered anyway. This is the nobility of your character ❤️.
Well, you did apologize for what happened in the past and have opened yourself up to a different perspective. That’s why we can now talk to each other ❤️ So it’s not quite true that it’s nothing you’ve done. You’ve changed your attitude, you’ve opened your heart and your mind – and here we’re now. And I’m very happy about it ❤️
October 19, 2025 at 11:15 am #451063anita
ParticipantDear Tee:
Grateful for your message 🙏 🙏 🙏
“Good to hear that, Anita! It means she didn’t manage to kill all the joy in you. There was still life in you, and it would bubble up sometimes, when you were alone, when she couldn’t see you or hear you. And perhaps that life was what motivated you to move across the world from your mother and seek happiness there? In a new, far-away place where her abuse cannot reach you?”-
Yes, it did. Problem was I kept going back to her, flying across the world to see her and be with her which killed my joy every time. So, going back to the U.S., eventually, was not joyful anymore.
Every visit with her was retraumatized me, and every return to the U.S. took longer and longer to recover from time until there was no recovery (many years of depression). My healing process started in 2011. Shortly after I started therapy back then I ended contact with her, no more visits.
“Yes, that’s tough. What’s hard about it that she seemed to have been functional otherwise, i.e. she didn’t seem like someone with mental health issues on the outside, right? I mean, she could pretend in front of other people that she is a kind, caring person, and a kind, caring mother, right? (except for what the neighbors heard sometimes…). You said she was “soft-spoken, nice” with your uncle, for example.”-
Yes, except that the neighbors heard and she exploded at other people too, not as often but still. One time she made such a scene in my elementary school, screaming at and threatening to hit a teacher.. in front of everyone. Everyone saw and heard. But no follow up.. I just followed the crazy woman back home.
So, the soft spoken, kind, wonderfully good person act was the norm but her BPD explosions were there, VERY explosive.
“And that’s I guess the narcissistic part: where the person can pretend to be certain way, which is socially acceptable. Where they can keep a certain public image, which is totally different than how they are in private.”- Yes.
“So it was only you (and I guess your sister) who knew how your mother actually is. I know you’ve talked about your sister before, but I don’t remember if your mother treated you two differently? Was she equally harsh and abusive to your sister too?”- she hit her too, she shamed her too, but I remember so little of my sister at home. Unlike me, she was very social and was out and about with peers and their families. I was in the “home” (prison cell, really).
“Right. You knew you weren’t allowed to say anything that would be ‘unacceptable’ to her, which probably meant anything genuine about yourself. She had a mild expression on her face, but you knew how she is underneath… and so of course, you didn’t dare to be honest with your uncle.”- yes.
* I have to get ready and leave so I would like to read the rest of your message and continue this response later ❤️
Anita
October 19, 2025 at 8:36 pm #451067anita
ParticipantDear Tee:
“You’re welcome, Anita, you’re definitely not alone. ❤️ There are a lot of similarities in how we were brought up, even though it was harder for you. But mine too is a decades-long battle, years and years of working on myself and gradually healing. And there are still blocks that I’m working on, although things are getting better..”-
Good thing, things are getting better for you 🙂!
“Hehe, yes 🙂 Actually I wanted to put a smiley at the end of that sentence (“And of course, my answer is always: healing the inner child..“). So no offense here at all, healing the inner child is my go-to answer for most big problems 🙂”-
Yes it is! (I like our 🙂s).
“Actually I didn’t think to talk to your inner child directly. I thought you would do that.. I just wanted to notice that it seems your inner child is still looking for validation from your mother (based on your post on Oct 10, 12:45pm). The little girl Anita believes she is bad and she wants her mother to love her and tell her she is not bad: “I hate being bad. I don’t want to be bad. Help me, help me be good. Sounded so true, 100% true.. Am I BAD.. Make HER say I am not bad. Make her say I am not..”-
“The little girl Anita is still looking for something (love and validation) from her mother – which unfortunately she most likely won’t receive. Her mother (your mother) doesn’t seem to be capable of that. I can imagine that looking for validation from your mother is what might be keeping you stuck in the feeling of ‘not good enough’, the feeling of worthlessness, ‘badness’.
“You’d need to release that longing and ‘radically accept’ that you cannot get it from your mother. That she just isn’t capable of giving it to you. And that it doesn’t make you a bad person, or a bad daughter. I wonder how this sounds to you?”-
Tears in my eyes right now, Tee. Little girl Anita is still Waiting (more tears in my eyes), Forever Waiting.
This very waiting has become- long ago- who I have become. The dream of her looking at me with loving eyes.. such an intense.. feels like an instinctual desire. It’s her desire, little Anita’s desire, to be loved by her mother *(throat hurts from controlled crying)
If only I could make her see me, hear me, feel me,
If only I could bridge this unbridgeable chasm, this BIGGEST distance between me and her.
(More tears in my eyes). Why can’t she see me, Tee? Why can’t she hear me?
“Well, you did apologize for what happened in the past and have opened yourself up to a different perspective. That’s why we can now talk to each other ❤️ So it’s not quite true that it’s nothing you’ve done. You’ve changed your attitude, you’ve opened your heart and your mind – and here we’re now. And I’m very happy about it ❤️ “-
Oh my God, Tee.. I am speechless. You’re happy about me opening my heart and mind, happy about where we’re now?
I would never, ever want to mess it up (more tears in my eyes and heavy rain outside, this Sun night).
If you ever want to connect in real-life, I am here.
Back to my mother, I am inviting my inner child to express herself.. Please talk to me inner child.. Tell me, what do you think about what Tee said (“You’d need to release that longing and ‘radically accept’ that you cannot get it from your mother. That she just isn’t capable of giving it to you.)”-
Inner child/ little girl Anita (whatever comes to mind): It makes me very sad. I mean, really S.A.D. No, I don’t want to accept such a thing! No!!!
I’m still waiting, I’m still fighting!!!
I love her SO MUCH! I WANT her to love me back!!!
Adult Anita: That ship has sailed. Let her go, that M is incapable, just like Tee said.
Little girl Anita: She can’t love me?
Adult Anita: No, she can’t. She has no heart for you.
Little girl Anita: No heart for me?
Adult Anita: No heart.
Little girl Anita: So.. broken heart..?
Adult Anita: Broken little girl Anita’s heart.
Little girl Anita: so.. it’s time to say goodbye to Ima (tears, increasing rain outside)
Adult Anita: Yes, time to say goodbye. Goodbye to everything Ima (mother) was supposed to be.
Little girl Anita: Goodbye to.. my biggest desire, my greatest passion (MAKE HER LOVE ME!!!)
Adult Anita: yes.. say goodbye.
Little girl Anita: NNNOOO!
Adult Anita: You are the most passionate, loyal little girl!
Little girl Anita: Who, what can I hold on to..?
Adult Anita: The Truth. Let her go.. Leave her be..
Little girl Anita: I KNOW she didn’t love me. I knew it all along. I can’t change it. I never could. I can’t- never could make her love me.
(to be continued, emotional, crying).
Anita
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