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lindseyParticipant
Anita,
Yes I said I cannot afford $380 but I can give you $200. – his response “I think I can cover your half.”
Yes I told him I would pay the $380 and he didn’t respond or confirm that statement he started talking about something else.
I’m not happy here with what is going on.
What is all this half about?? We are not roommates
Lindsey
lindseyParticipantAnita,
I said that and he responded with “I did ask you about paying half before.” He said he could cover the rest but he’s on a tight rope with the divorce. I’m annoyed and just said I would pay it to stop the uncomfortable conversation.
Now I get to deal with future financial relationship troubles. Not a smart move on my part. I agree with things to avoid conflict.
I’m disappointed that he didn’t say I understand Lindsey I’ll cover the rest.
Lindsey
lindseyParticipantAnita,
He does not seem to be struggling financially. In fact he does quite well for himself to the best of my knowledge. We have never shared expenses before and have never gone on any trips. Typically we go back and forth with dinner costs etc so it is somewhat even.
I have never had any discussions in depth on what each of us make but I do know his divorce was expensive. I’m just thinking I need to be up front with him and say hey – I’m a single mom and I can’t afford the cost of these types of trips. We can skip the massages and I can give you $200. I don’t think I need to tell him how much I make salary wise- not right now anyway.
It seems rude of me to say hey you invited me and now you are asking to pay. I’m 100% positive this was an issue in his marriage. I think he wanted to split everything with her but details of that I’m not sure. I know they split chores 50/50…so take it from there maybe.
Lindsey
lindseyParticipantAnita,
Regarding the earlier message yes. At first the attention from my friend was flattering. Our friendship started over 2 years ago when I was struggling and newly divorced. He was very supportive. However, within the last 6 months or more? his messages started to get more and more vulgar.
I believe this is a boundary lesson that I’m not great at. If I tell someone I don’t like that and they continue the behavior-cut off that friendship. Way easier said than done.
Lindsey
lindseyParticipantAnita,
Hello and hope you are doing well. Things are good here. The kids and I are going to get Aiden’s haircut tonight and he has baseball practice Friday and Saturday evening.
There is a new movie coming out so we might see that. Things are going better and better with Jason.
He asked me to go on a 2 day vacation with him next weekend. He mentioned the other day about us both paying half. I thought to myself “uh ok you invited me” but thought it’s 2 days $100 or pushing it- $200 isn’t a big deal.
He was talking about massages yesterday and it sounded great but in the back of my head I was thinking that’s really expensive to get at a hotel.
So he just texted me a few minutes ago saying my half is $380 if that’s ok. Umm no not really. That’s a ton of money for me for a 2 day vacation. I’m not sure how to approach this conversation and I’m a bit annoyed. Am I overreacting? I think $200 is more than adequate and skip the massages. they are probably $150 easy.
Lindsey
lindseyParticipantAnita,
Have you ever felt like you were walking around scratching your head when a storm came through and messed up the yard unintentionally ? Well that’s how I feel.
I went over to Jason’s house last night. I came to to the realization that he was worried I was cheating on him and trying to decide if I was being honest. He had considered ending things
. I on the other hand was focused on a friend sending in appropriate texts that I allowed.
I felt a bit interrogated. He asked me a few times if I had ever messed around with this friend especially since he was helping me get a job. I kept saying no and then he asked to look at the text messages on my phone. Afterwards he just shook his head stating reading the texts was weird. Everything was resolved after that. He said I had good intentions in general as a person which is part of why he believed me.
I think this may be an ongoing issue to be honest.
Honestly I would have been really hurt by the situation if I were him but didn’t think it was a huge deal. Why did I not consider or gross my mind to stop the vulgar texting once I got serious with Jason? What are your thoughts on that?
Lindsey
lindseyParticipantAnita,
I agree that cookie idea was a bad idea and tossed the idea out the window. He messaged me later saying he was thinking about me and we had a short conversation.
I think I might be catching a cold from my children and I’m over this week in general. Just trying not to overthink or worry and ready for tomorrow evening when I see him.
I told Jason yesterday that I blocked the guy sending messages and I’m going to elaborate on that tomorrow. I’m going to say that I feel I disrepected him regarding the situation as a whole. I will explain I stopped speaking with the guy so much once we got serious but kept texts going because he was helping me get a job. I should have been assertive and made him stop texting me that way. Instead I put the situation to the side and ignored comments. We can go from there conversation wise.
lindseyParticipantAnita-
Our town has this amazing cookie store that is open 24 hours and they deliver.
what do you think if I sending Jason cookie but have it be anonymous? Do you think overkill?
lindsey
lindseyParticipantAnita- Thank you very much 🙂
lindseyParticipantAnita,
I just blocked his number. This has not been a great experience overall. Instead of complaining about my anxiety I’m going to try and focus on the fact that he did not break up with me.
Lindsey
lindseyParticipantAnita,
Yes I feel things intensely I agree. Mostly likely anxiety and abandonment triggers. I really was not able to calm down but I did speak with Jason about an hour ago. He stated “This has been on my mind. Do I trust you? You are making it hard.” So at that point I thought ok this guy is breaking up with me and I’m about to freak out. I called him (asking first) and we spoke. Some of it was reassurance from me and I stated at this point I was not going to have a friendship with Chance. This is more of a casual friendship anyway and our relationship was more important. He said that I did not have to do that about Chance but I do. I am not going to set myself up for another text or situation again. At the end of the conversation he stated we would talk on Friday after work when I came over. By the end of the conversation I feel like I had reassured him a bit about the situation and things in general. His 2 requirements when we started a relationship were no cheating and no lying.
You are right about the vulgar language stated above. In the past I ignored Chance’s language but I have spoken to him less since I started dating Jason. I’ve never had a male friend that texted like that. I just didn’t think until now about setting up boundaries or that really it was that big of a deal.
This morning:
Lindsey: Stop saying some of the gross things you text me.
Chance: I always talk to you like that
Lindsey: yes and it’s gross and you need to stop
Chance: You’ve been weird the last month
Lindsey: You just get too vulgar sometimes.
lindseyParticipantHello Anita,
Hope your week is going well. I am working in office all week so it’s an adjustment. My relationship is going well. Everything is good with the kids and I took Ella to her first Art class this past Saturday. So something happened last night and well I don’t know how these things happen to me besides that I don’t have boundaries.
I have a younger male friend that I’m sure I have mentioned in the past. He has given me a lot of advise for the past 3 years and has set me up with a new job interview. I have noticed over time that he gets overly sexual describing other women he is seeing or sexual comments made to me about situations. Recently the messages have gotten way worse as far as vulgar. When I read them I think that’s really gross and I don’t read it again, I just move on. I’ve thought in passing that I wish he would not send that kind of stuff. I’ve said something about it but he’s taken it as a joke and I have not pushed the issue.
Last night Jason was over and before he was leaving I laughed and said let me show you a funny article Chance sent me. ( the younger male friend.) Above the article was a vulgar statement Chance had sent and Jason read that. He said does that say ….? And I said yes he sends those things all the time and I ignore it.
So to make things short I sent him a message last night after he left apologizing and we then spoke on the phone. I said how sorry I was and if things were turned around I would be really upset and not as calm as he was acting. His overall response about the situation was that it was disturbing. He asked me questions about Chance like if he was attractive or if we had messed around in the past, both were no. I said that I should have set a boundary with Chance about those types of vulgar messages. That I have issues with boundaries. He mostly lisened. I got really upset and he told me everything was fine, we would move forward and if I was truthful about not speaking with other men he would believe me until something happened.
I sent a message earlier about getting a dog sitter because he invited me to a 2 day vacation at the end of the month. I have not heard back so now it’s classic Lindsey anxiety about waiting. I also sent a message this morning to Chance about no sending those types of messages again.
I made a mess of things and I just don’t know what to do. His response is probably how things will move forward but I feel awful about the entire thing and wonder if I should send something else about the situation now. (which I think maybe no- just move forward) I’m terrified that he thinks less of me. First being how vulgar the comment was and it was on my phone and directed at me. Second that I am part of that kind of text messages. I’m just at a loss here. I just realized the word I am feeling- Ashamed.
Lindsey
lindseyParticipantAnita,
I am sorry for the late reply. I hope you had a good Valentine’s Day as well. Things are still going strong with my relationship. He got me a necklace for Valentine’s/Birthday (it is the 17th) and we went to dinner.
It has been a very eventful week or 2. I organized my daughter’s 10th birthday party at a paint your own pottery place and it went very well. I dressed them up for Valentine’s Day this past Monday and they looked very cute. we have had sports events and last Thursday we had a major snow storm- 8-10 inches so the kids were home with me going to school online.
So. I found out in more detail his divorce situation from 3 years ago. He was still in love with his wife and is almost positive she cheated on him. This new revelation made me worried. Is this guy ready for what may lie ahead? While we have only been dating 3 months (and maybe that is key for me to realize) this is different from any relationship in the past for me.
Is this a common reason people get divorced? Yes I think so. Can someone heal in 3 years and move on to a healthy relationship that could be long lasting? I don’t know I’ve never been in that position. Putting myself in the position? I would not be for a long time-maybe 3 years? He did state this is long term as he does not do short hookups/casual relationships normally.
I brought this to his attention regarding what happened with his ex wife. Initially he thought my question was more serious but I explained I’m talking about boyfriend/girlfriend-what if he decides this is too much? He stated that he is is very leary of getting hurt and wants to enjoy what we have now.
Sitting back I don’t think I should ask the question again and be in the moment. However you know that is hard for me to do. Also I need to apply this to myself. Am I ready? Because I’m also not really thinking past how great things are now. Do I want to introduce him to my kids? It’s a passing thought only. I mean it’s not anytime soon.
It’s causing anxiety again and I would appreciate any advice-if there is any to give.
Lindsey
lindseyParticipantAnita,
I would agree that most of my feelings of being objectified are from experiences with my ex. This new and healthy relationship for me is like navigating a corn maze. What I have found is that activities that are not public are an enjoyable experience with no issues. personal comments have been made over text as of 2 days ago. Instead of good morning how are you the comments were more not for the public to read.
So I texted him and we are going to talk on Monday when I come over. I said that my feelings were hurt when I read the private messages. It’s hard for me to explain where some of my feelings are coming from. I felt disappointment initally and thought oh no is this how it’s going to be? Is this the primary focus?
He replied that he is worried about my feelings and we will talk on Monday. Since 2 days ago I’ve noticed more general conversations.
Lindsey
lindseyParticipantAnita,
Happy Friday, hope you have been well. Officially I have a boyfriend LOL. Things are going good with healthy communication so far. I feel now in the dating world versus when I was in my 20’s that intimacy seems rushed. I don’t really understand the hurry. We are going to have a talk about that Monday along with things that I’ve found make me feel a bit objectified.
My dog has food allergies and just got the results back from the vet. He is allergic to 7 things but are common with allergies. I need to go get him some treats and I have been feeding him new food for the past few weeks that he is not allergic to.
Mediation is February 2nd so I can put all of that behind me. Last night ex and girlfriend called kids on their I Pads. They asked questions directed negatively toward me. She asked “Ella you look tired” and they both repeated that to her. Also he asked questions about if she had completed her work and a badge for Girl Scouts. While I ignore this behavior it has an impact. Ella was quiet and there were no questions as to what she has done during the week, how they kids are doing, any type of personal questions. He seemed to struggle with conversation and seemed fake.
I do not want these behaviors to effect the kids but I have to ignore their behaviors. Everything is directed at me. How do you constantly ignore this? Walk out of the room when they call?
Lindsey
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