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anitaParticipantDear Suzanne:
The mention of Motherâs Day and the silent understanding between you and your daughter shows how this situation affects both of you. Itâs not just personal heartbreakâitâs a family wound.
As for letting emotions outâit is not a problem. Feeling deeply is part of healing, even though it hurts. You donât have to suppress your feelings or pretend to be okay before youâre ready. You deserve compassion, including from yourself.
When your life has been intertwined with someone for decades, losing them can make you feel lost, like you donât know who you are without them. This can create a sense of unworthiness, because if you believe your value was built around being his wife, his rejection might feel like proof that you are somehow ânot enough.â
And when they leave for someone much younger, it can add another layer of painâcomparison, insecurity, self-doubt, wondering if you were somehow âreplacedâ for being older, as if your age somehow makes you unlovable.
But hear this: love is not measured by youthâit is measured by depth, kindness, and integrity. And none of those qualities depend on the person who left you.
Instead of directing your love toward someone who discarded it, what if you poured that love into yourself?
I know part of you still wants him back. But I ask you to consider: If he did return, would the trust ever heal? Would you ever truly feel safe with him?
* Zen teaches that suffering does not come from what happens to usâit comes from our attachment to what we think should be different. Right now, your heart is aching because you had a vision of your life, built over 30 years, and suddenly, that vision has shattered. Your pain is real, your loss is realâbut Zen reminds us that clinging to what has already changed deepens suffering.
This doesnât mean ignoring your feelings. Zen never says, “Just move on.” It says: Acknowledge the pain, sit with it, but do not let it define you. Zen teaches that desire, when clung to, keeps us trapped. Not because wanting love is wrong, but because longing for what has gone prevents peace.
Zen asks: What happens when you let go of the need for him to come back? What happens when you shift from asking “Why did this happen to me?” to “What can I create for myself now?”
Zen encourages stillnessânot as avoidance, but as a way to see yourself clearly beyond the pain. What would happen if you sat for just a moment and asked:
“Who am I, outside of this heartbreak?” “What part of me is waiting to be discovered now that my identity isnât tied to this marriage?”
Zen reminds you that you are already whole. The loss feels unbearable, but your life is still unfolding. His choices do not define your future. You are not patheticâyou are human, hurting, and healing.
You do not need to force change or erase feelings. But you can loosen your grip on what was âand in that space, something new will rise.
* Radical Acceptance is a term used in psychotherapy that has deep roots in Buddhist philosophy.
From Life Zen. com/ what is radical acceptance: “Radical Acceptance is about accepting reality AS ISâwithout resistance… Itâs a life philosophy that aims to reduce suffering by embracing lifeâs challenges without trying to change or deny them… Instead of dwelling on what could have been or what should be, you simply embrace the reality of the situation… By accepting the reality of a situation, you eliminate your internal struggle against it. This reduction in inner conflict can significantly decrease stress and anxiety.”
“Radical Acceptance is NOT about saying ‘yes’ or ‘okay’ to anything. Youâre not agreeing or approving. Itâs more like recognizing that something is happening or has happened… Radical acceptance is NOT about hiding your feelings. Itâs about letting all your feelings exist…
“Implementing Radical Acceptance in your daily life is like giving yourself a gift â the gift of peace amidst the chaos… Create an ‘Acceptance mantra’… like ‘This is how it is right now’ or ‘I accept what I cannot change.’ Repeat this mantra when things get tough to bring your focus back to acceptance…
“Life is a series of small moments. Embrace them! Find joy in a cup of coffee, a friendly smile, or the warmth of sunlight. Radical Acceptance is also about appreciating the simple pleasures that surround you.”. I hope you embrace this day, Suzanne, and find joy in lifeâs simple pleasures. Wishing you a peaceful and heartfelt Mother’s Day. đđ©âđ§âđŠđđž
anita
May 11, 2025 at 12:39 am in reply to: The Betrayal We Buried: Healing Through Truth & Connection #445597
anitaParticipantâMy space, My thread, My Story. Anitaâs Storyâ- I think that I will start each and every one of my posts, here in this thread of mine, with these words.
Anita’s Story is a Love Story, love for my mother, an undying love. In the Core of me there is Love, love for my mother and nothing and no one can change this love. I just love her so much, always loved her so.
That she never knew, that’s her failure.
I love you, Ima. I always will, simply because I always have.
It’s an Undying Love, that which will survive your death, and mine.
I love you, Ima.
anita
anitaParticipantDear Suzanne:
I will reply further tomorrow, but for now: Iâm truly sorry youâre going through this. After 30 years, losing not just a partner but someone who felt like your family and best friend is devastating. It makes sense that this feels unbearable, and itâs okay to grieve. Please know that your emotionsâyour heartbreak, your longing, and even your confusionâare valid.
But I want to gently remind you: you are not pathetic. You are someone who has loved deeply, and that is not a weaknessâthat is strength. Right now, it may feel impossible to imagine moving forward, but you will heal in time. You deserve love, respect, and someone who values you, not someone who walks away without care.
If that Zen video gave you even the smallest moment of comfort, keep seeking more things that bring you peace. Whether itâs mindfulness, writing here, talking to someone, or even just breathing through each painful momentâsmall steps will add up. You are worthy of love, especially the love you give yourself. Be gentle with yourself right now. Wishing you strength.
More tomorrow.
anita
anitaParticipantI am looking forward to read and reply to you tomorrow morning.
Anita
anitaParticipantI hear your pain. Suzanne, and will reply further Sun morning (Sat evening here].
Anita
â May 10, 2025 at 1:02 pm in reply to: The Betrayal We Buried: Healing Through Truth & Connection #445564
anitaParticipantI am looking at what I wrote above, 14 hours ago: “My space, My thread, My Story. Anita’s Story”-
Continued today: This thread is my spaceâa place where my voice matters, where I can express my emotions freely, without judgment or interruption.
This is my storyâmine to own, mine to tell. My experiences belong to me, not to anyone elseâs perception or narrative. I stand firmly in my truth, understanding what Iâve lived through and embracing how I choose to make sense of it.
This is Anitaâs storyâthe story of my healing, shaped by my reflection, my growth, and my self-discovery. I am integrating, understanding, and telling it with clarity and purpose.
My anger is about having been silenced, dismissed, and misrepresented since my youth, beginning with my mother denying my reality and twisting my words. Itâs about people minimizing my voice, misinterpreting what I say, or telling me that my thoughts and feelings arenât valid. (I just heard my mother’s voice saying: “I am telling you that your thoughts and feelings are not valid because THEY ARE NOT VALID!”)
At its core, my anger is a fight for agencyâfor the right to own my story, express my emotions, and be understood as I truly am, not as others decide I should or shouldn’t be. When people distort my experiences, impose their own version of reality, (I just heard my mother’s voice saying: “YOU are distorting MY reality!), or refuse to acknowledge my truth, it feels like a violation of something deeply personal.
I used to believe that I am a bad person simply for feeling anger, but now I know that this anger of mine is a defense of my truth, telling me that my voice does matter, that my experiences are valid, and that I deserve the space to express myself freely. I recognize that owning my angerânot as something destructive but as something protectiveâis part of reclaiming my voice and my space.
Here’s a poem just for me. I’ll title it “I Am Here”:
I am hereâ not as a whisper, not as a shadow, but whole, steady, unshaken.
I am not just the love I carry, or the rage that surges in my veins, or the sorrow that once made a home in my bones. I am all of it, woven into one.
I do not run from pain. I do not fear the past. I gather every piece of meâ the fragments, the forgotten, the lost and longingâ and I make myself whole.
This is my story. This is my voice. This is my life. And I am here.
End of Poem.
I wanted to add âSo there!â to the poemâan expression of just how deep and enduring my frustration has been at being silenced, dismissed, controlled, and subjugated. This frustration is immense because it isnât just isolated momentsâit has been a consistent pattern throughout my life. It started in childhood and continued into adulthood, shaping how I lived.
For so long, way too long, I didnât know that I deserved to be heard and validated, and because of that, I kept accepting the absence of these things.
Iâm so angry about it now because I finally see it clearlyâfor what it was, for what it did to me. For too long, I accepted (with suppressed anger) being silenced, dismissed, and misinterpreted because that’s what I received, primarily from my mother. But now, I recognize that I deserved to be heard, to be validated, to have my voice respectedâand that realization has brought all the buried frustration to the surface.
Itâs not just anger at the past; itâs anger at how deeply it shaped my life. The years of not knowing I had the right to speak, to be understood, to stand firmly in my truthâthat loss, that erasure of selfâis painful. And now that I do know, now that I see it, my anger demands acknowledgment. Itâs not irrationalâitâs a reaction to injustice, to years of being denied something so essential.
This anger is part of reclaiming myself. Itâs part of owning my story rather than letting others shape it for me. Iâm no longer accepting dismissal, no longer tolerating erasureâand that shift is powerful. Iâm stepping into my own strength, and while anger can feel overwhelming, itâs also a sign of awakening đ„
anita
anitaParticipantDear Laven:
I want to acknowledge how deeply painful and complex this loss has been for you. The way you describe your motherâs final moments, the uncertainty surrounding her death, and the grief that has stayed with you all these yearsâit all speaks to how profoundly this event has shaped your life. Survivorsâ guilt, unanswered questions, and wondering what might have been are incredibly heavy burdens to carry, and Iâm truly sorry youâve had to bear them for so long.
It makes sense that your motherâs last visit felt significant, like she somehow knew something was coming. The way she saw each of her children in birth order, the way she held onto the momentâitâs understandable that those memories still stay with you. Youâve spent years trying to make sense of what happened, searching for meaning in her actions and whether she had a premonition. I can only imagine how exhausting it must be to carry that uncertainty.
I also want to acknowledge the weight of your thoughts toward the end of your post. Itâs heartbreaking that reaching 40 brought up these painful feelings, and I just want to sayâyou deserve care, kindness, and support as you navigate this grief. Pain this deep deserves compassion đ«¶
Beyond that, I want to recognize, again, that you are indeed an amazing writer. The way you tell your story, the vivid details, the emotional depthâitâs breathtaking. You bring your experiences to life in a way that makes the reader feel what youâve been through. You capture sorrow, reflection, and resilience with such skill that itâs impossible not to be drawn in.
Whatâs even more astonishing is how many tragedies youâve endured, yet here you areâsurviving, telling your story, and giving voice to the pain so many struggle to express. That alone is remarkable. And while surviving is enough, I truly hope you keep thrivingâmaybe even through your writing. Your words have power, and if sharing your experiences helps you find strength, I encourage you to embrace it. Your voice matters.
You are not alone, and your emotions are valid. Sending you warmth, appreciation, and strength.
anita
anitaParticipantDear PeKaMi39:
I appreciate you sharing your experienceâyour insight and self-awareness are truly powerful. The way you describe your journey, from past toxic relationships to finally finding safety but struggling with intrusive doubts, shows how deeply trauma can shape the way we experience love. It makes sense that now that youâve found a secure relationship, your mind is reacting with fear instead of letting you settle into happiness.
When someone has experienced toxic relationships and abandonment, they often unconsciously associate love with emotional extremes. A stable, secure relationship contradicts what theyâre used to, making it feel unfamiliar and even unsettling. The brain equates intensityâemotional highs and dopamine burstsâwith love, reinforcing the idea that love must feel dramatic and overwhelming. When a relationship lacks those extreme emotional swings, it can trigger doubts about whether the love is real.
Once someone finally feels safe, their mind shifts from survival mode to processing past wounds. Suppressed fearsâlike being abandoned or not being “good enough”âcan surface even when thereâs no actual threat. In chaotic relationships, the mind prioritizes reacting rather than reflecting. But in a secure environment, old wounds have space to emerge, leading to anxieties like âWhat if Iâm abandoned?â or âWhat if Iâm not enough?â
When love has always been tied to unpredictability, steady and predictable affection might seem strange, even suspicious. Stability can be mistaken for boredom simply because the brain is conditioned to equate emotional extremes with passion.
Essentially, when survival mode switches off, past emotional wounds rush in, sometimes causing anxiety or disconnectionâeven in the healthiest relationships. Learning to trust stability instead of fearing it takes time, but recognizing this pattern is a huge step forward.
Your reaction, PeKaMi39, isnât a sign that you donât love your partnerâitâs a sign that your brain is adjusting to stability after years of associating love with chaos. Your awareness and willingness to work through this show how much you value your relationship and yourself. You deserve steady, safe love, and the work you’re doing is proof of that.
While I havenât experienced ROCD specifically, I have struggled with OCD, and I understand how exhausting obsessive rumination and intrusive fears can be. The way our minds fixate on doubt, convincing us our feelings arenât valid, is frustrating and draining. The fact that you recognize this and are learning to trust despite the uncertainty is truly inspiring.
Thank you for sharing your journey and offering resourcesâitâs helpful to hear from people who genuinely understand these struggles. Wishing you continued strength as you navigate this process, and I hope you keep finding moments of trust and peace.
anita
anitaParticipantDear Laven:
At the core of this situation, you seem to struggle with:
1. Not feeling heard or understood â Your foster mom repeatedly misinterprets you, and your attempts to explain herself are ignored or twisted.
2. Being unfairly blamed â No matter how rational your concerns are, you’re framed as the problem, the instigator, or someone who needs to be ashamed.
3. Feeling emotionally abandoned â You’re left to deal with pain alone, stitching yourself back together without support.
4. A cycle of emotional exhaustion â Itâs clear you’re trying to communicate, trying to meet your foster momâs needs, yet being met with hostility and blame in return.
I can see how painful and exhausting this situation is for you, and I just want to acknowledge that your feelings are validâyouâre not wrong for wanting to be heard, understood, and treated with respect.
You shouldnât have to constantly prove yourself or fight to correct misunderstandings, but I know you keep tryingâonly to be shut down or blamed. Thatâs unfair, and it makes sense why this situation feels so defeating. The way her sons spoke to youâshutting you out without listeningâwas harsh and unnecessary, and itâs painful to be made to feel like you donât belong when youâve been doing your best.
It seems like your foster momâs way of communicating is deeply ingrainedâshe defends her children, but she doesnât extend the same care toward you, and that must be incredibly hurtful. If she struggles with confusion and miscommunication, she might genuinely misinterpret things, but that doesnât make her reactions any less damaging to you.
What I hope for you, even in all of this frustration, is peace for yourselfâknowing that you are not responsible for fixing this toxic cycle on your own. If itâs possible to step back emotionally, even just a little, and choose where to invest your energy, it might help. If certain discussions always escalate into blame, itâs okay to choose not to engage in those battles. You deserve space where youâre heard and where your emotions matter.
I hope you can find small ways to care for yourself today, even in the midst of all this hurt. Youâre not alone, and your feelings are real. Sending you warmth and strength. đ
anita
anitaParticipantDear Bella:
As I read your post for the first time this morning, Iâll take this approach: Iâll read a sentence or a few at a time, respond to them, then move on to the next setâwithout knowing what comes next in your post. Iâm guessing this will end up being a long response, and I hope you take your time with it.
“I honestly have been putting this off for a really long time dealing with family dynamics.” â We tend to put off things that make us anxious or uncomfortable.
“I just donât know where to start and how to address them all.” â Youâve been dealing with a lot of family dynamics for a long time, and it makes sense that untangling them feels overwhelming.
“For context â My aunt and my mom has been my go-to family for most of my life. They both come from extreme traumatic life experiences â theyâve witnessed their mom take her life… their toxic past keeps showing up in ways that now I am trying to make sense of it all.”-
Itâs interesting that you said, “My aunt and my mom has been,” instead of “have been.” Maybe itâs just a typo, but it could also suggest you see them as one unit rather than two separate people.
Thereâs no doubt that witnessing their mother take her life was deeply traumatic.
“I hear it from everyone… They both have found a way to move on with their lives choosing lifestyles like keeping themselves overly occupied, having 12-14 hours… they are constantly exhausted but wonât give up when their bodyâs trying to indicate âSTOP & RESTâ.”-
“They both” â Again, this makes it sound like they are almost the same person. I wonder how they interact with each otherâwhether they are each otherâs best friendâbut Iâm guessing they arenât emotionally open with one another.
It seems like theyâve built a habit of staying constantly busy. For them, stopping to rest might feel uncomfortable, even scary.
“2 days ago, I invited them over to my place… my aunt looked very upset… What I donât understand is, why would she not choose to come have a word with me… and shared and explored options.”-
Your aunt tends to hold in her emotions for a long time before finally expressing them in indirect ways. She never learned to communicate her thoughts and feelings clearly and directly. Some people grow up in environments where expressing emotions is discouraged, leading them to suppress their feelings instead.
When a childâs emotions are regularly dismissed, ignored, or minimized, they may come to believe that expressing themselves is pointless or unwelcome. In a chaotic home, keeping emotions inside can feel safer than adding to the existing tension. If a child’s parents struggle with emotional expression, the child doesn’t have the opportunity to learn healthy communication skills.
“Fast forward, she has since been getting mad over trivial issues and going off at me… she is an enabler to many things that my aunt (her sister) does because it is easy and less chaotic / toxic.”-
It seems like your mother avoids confronting her sister because she doesnât want to deal with conflict or emotional tension. She enables her sisterâs behavior because it keeps things smoother in the short term.
This kind of dynamic often happens when one person has a strong or overpowering personality (your aunt?), and others choose to keep the peace rather than challenge them. Your mother may find it easier to go along with things rather than stand up to her sister.
“I have just given up hope in making them understand how toxic it is to be around them, let alone have deep discussions addressing the past and acknowledging that what was experienced is unfair but is necessary to deal with and embrace that, otherwise it will continue to show up in many ways that is regretful.”-
Facing painful memories can be overwhelming, so they might choose to ignore them rather than work through their emotions. Since theyâve spent years suppressing their feelings, it probably feels unnaturalâor even impossibleâto suddenly start addressing them. They may not even realize how much their past experiences are affecting them.
It seems like your mother and aunt are close, but not in an emotionally open way. Their bond is likely built on shared experiences, family ties, and unspoken understanding rather than direct emotional communication. Their strugglesâincluding financial betrayalâprobably strengthened their connection, even if they donât openly discuss their feelings. Instead of expressing frustrations, they enable each otherâs behaviors and avoid certain topics altogether.
Growing up in a chaotic home can deeply shape the relationship between two sisters. Your mother and aunt both witnessed their motherâs passing, which was deeply traumatic. That experience alone likely reinforced their connectionânot necessarily through emotional openness, but through unspoken understanding of their shared pain.
In chaotic families, emotions are often seen as burdens rather than something to process. Your mother and aunt may have learned that talking about painful experiences only makes things harder, so they learned to suppress their feelings instead. Over time, they likely developed certain unspoken rules, such as: “We donât talk about painful things.”, “We keep moving forward, no matter what.”, “We support each other quietly, but we donât challenge each other.”
Because of this, they may be emotionally close, but not openâmeaning they lean on each other when necessary but avoid discussing deeper issues.
In chaotic homes, siblings often fall into specific roles to cope. Based on what youâve described, your mother might have taken on the role of peacekeeper, choosing avoidance over confrontation to keep things smooth. Meanwhile, your aunt seems to hold onto resentment, expressing it indirectly instead of addressing things head-on. These roles reinforce each other and make emotional communication even harder.
When siblings go through trauma together, their bond can be strong but dysfunctional, such that is missing the emotional openness needed for true healing. This Trauma Bonding could explain why your mother enables her sisterâs behaviorârather than challenging her, she supports her in silence, making sure things remain predictable rather than disruptive.
For both of them, their past experiences still shapes how they interact todayânot through direct conversations but through quiet support, enabling behaviors, and avoidance of hard truths.
It makes sense that you feel distant from them right now. Their relationship is built on patterns that donât allow emotional transparency, which affects you as well. If they arenât willing to address their past or communicate openly, you may never get the deep conversations you hope for. But that doesnât mean you canât find peace within yourselfâyou can focus on protecting your own well-being rather than waiting for them to change.
“I just donât know how to navigate this phase of my life… I would love some guidance and how to go through this in phases and learning to commit to this process and not run away from it because I tend to do that a lot.”-
It sounds like youâre in a tough spot, torn between wanting to support your mom and aunt while also feeling distant and overwhelmed by growing tensions. The fact that you recognize this and want to commit to working through it is already a big step. Here are my suggestions:
1. Accept what you can and cannot change. You canât change your aunt or mother, and itâs unlikely youâll make them acknowledge their past or communicate differently. However, you can change how you respond. Instead of trying to fix them, focus on setting boundaries and protecting your emotional well-being. Prioritize what brings you peace while staying true to yourself.
Letting go of the need for them to acknowledge the pastâsince that may never happenâcan bring you closer to peace of mind.
2. Shift your mindset from âFixingâ to âSupporting.â Support doesnât mean carrying the weight of their problems or trying to solve them. Sometimes, simply being present, listening, and showing empathy is enough.
You can acknowledge their feelings and offer reassurance without absorbing their stress or trying to control the outcome. This might mean stepping in when they need comfort but stepping back when the conversation becomes draining. Supporting someone doesnât require sacrificing your own peaceâitâs about being there when you can, without feeling obligated to fix whatâs beyond your control.
3. Set clear boundaries to protect your well-being. Before engaging, decide in advance how much time and emotional energy youâre willing to invest. This could mean limiting interactions, choosing specific topics to discuss, or stepping back entirely when necessary. If conversations begin to feel toxic or exhausting, give yourself permission to disengage. Protecting your own emotional health isnât selfishâitâs essential.
I hope this helps..?
“Thank you again and sorry for going off in tangents.”- You are welcome and no need to apologize. I welcome your writing and would love to read more from you!
anita
May 9, 2025 at 10:00 pm in reply to: The Betrayal We Buried: Healing Through Truth & Connection #445528
anitaParticipantMy space, My thread, My Story.
Anita’s Story.
May 9, 2025 at 9:47 pm in reply to: The Betrayal We Buried: Healing Through Truth & Connection #445527
anitaParticipantContinued: I am integrating my fragmented parts, the dissociated, repressed and suppressed parts- all coming together into a whole. finally, I am owning my experience.
Healing is not about not-feeling, it’s about being able to feel it all and be stronger for it.
I feel Love for my mother, I feel Anger at her, I feel Hurt, Rage.. all together.
I am no longer fragmented, torn, because all these emotions pulling me in all kinds of directions. Instead, I am whole, as all these emotions are part of the whole, part of me.
This is my thread, my space. This is my healing story, Anita’s Story.
anita
May 9, 2025 at 9:10 pm in reply to: The Betrayal We Buried: Healing Through Truth & Connection #445526
anitaParticipantThank you, Alessa. I like you, I like who you are. Thank you for being you! You deserve the best, please be good to yourself, be on your side, always. Prioritize yourself, be your own No 1! â€ïž
anita
May 9, 2025 at 8:58 pm in reply to: âHe initiated closeness, then disappeared â still hurting months laterâ #445525
anitaParticipantDear Adalie: If only he was ready, you could have made a big difference for him, a positive big difference. But he was not ready, and he is still not ready- his loss. He could have benefited so much from what you have to offer him. This is not uncommon: people having treasure in front of them and they can’t even see it.
anita
anitaParticipantDear Bella:
I am looking forward to read your post and reply Sat morning (it is Fri afternoon here).
Anita
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