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Dear Kshitij:
“I don’t know what to do to slow down. I think a part of this rushing is also because of my intrusive thought… It is never easy in Oxford“-
– J. Mark G. Williams also studied in the University of Oxford, and is currently a professor of clinical psychology there. He is a leading expert on Mindfulness. I first heard of him in 2011 when I attended psychotherapy (U.S.). My therapist at the time gave me homework assignments that included listening to one of Mark William’s guided meditations every day. Some of the audios I used to listen to are still online, free of charge (last I checked).
One book he authored is called Mindfulness: A practical guide to finding peace in a hectic world. I just noticed that there are YouTubes available where you can listen and watch him talk. Also, he has his own website.
I read that together with other researchers, he explored the impact of Mindfulness– Based Cognitive Therapy (MBCT) on intrusive imagery and intrusive thoughts in severely anxious patients, and found that MBCT significantly reduced the frequency, distress and intrusiveness of intrusive thoughts and images.
anita
anitaParticipantDear Simon:
Since my summary post in your thread, you added the following information: you live in the UK where you view people/ life to be “so materialistic… without any depth to it, so shallow… cars, houses, holidays, everything seems to be a competition that I don’t want to be in… not good enough for me or authentic“.
As a barber for 20 years, you felt not good enough because you didn’t do a traditional apprenticeship, and as a chef running your own business, you give yourself no credit because you didn’t go to culinary college. You never felt good enough in relationships either, “I’ve never felt good enough in any way shape or form hating on myself for 34 years“. You are judgmental of yourself and of others (it’s 2 sides of the same coin: judgmental of self/ judgmental of others).
You have “ADHD and anxiety issues.. catastrophize everything“, a “tortured soul“, and you are “in physical pain constantly from my feet all the way to my eyelids, years of standing on my feet“. You enjoy holidays with your family, but less so since your little girls are no longer little girls (now 18 and 17)- “the last few years things are not the same“.
“Everything I have ever done has been rush, rush, rush, my jobs even gave me an opportunity to rush barbering cutting hair as quickly as I can, to make money cooking in my cafe quickly making meals to get people in and out of the restaurant… I’m afraid of running out of time. I had kids for my grandparents so they would get to see them before they passed… It’s scary to try and just stop and not rush, but I think it’s the only choice I have which is why I feel that escaping to a monastery for a year would help“-
– I like the idea of you staying in a monastery for a short while because for one, you’d be off your feet, giving your body the rest it needs, and secondly, it’s a quiet place, especially if monastic silence is practiced. I imagine it’s noisy in your busy cafe/ busy life. It’d be nice to have silence instead, for a while.
You’ve experienced noise since your childhood, a disturbing, distressing kind of noise: “extreme shouting and swearing… sounded pretty violent” (when your parents were fighting, from what you shared Feb 2022). I am guessing that their violent shouting and swearing translated to Noise Within you, expressing itself as ADHD, and severe self-judgment ,the latter translating to the Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder which you mentioned back in Feb, 22: having to do everything perfectly, an impossibility long-term, leading to constant failures at achieving perfection, and as a result.. more self-judgment, more Noise Within.
Your Rushing Habit, as I called it, is perhaps about you trying to run away from the Noise Within.
The problem with your idea of escaping to a monastery for a year, is that a year is a very long time. It may be that you are currently rushing to a 1-year stay in a monastery without thinking it through. Back in Feb 2022, you shared that you are afraid to be alone (“I’m just too afraid to be alone“), that you’ve been afraid to be left alone since you were a child: “lying in bed next to my sister as a child in the dark, wanting someone to talk to. That’s been the story of my life“.
You may feel very alone in a monastery day after day, month after month, a whole year, no one to talk to..?
* I suppose there is such a thing as good noise and bad noise: the first is peaceful, accepting, forgiving, enduring; the second is violent, rejecting, critical, judgmental.
Which reminds me: you shared back in Feb 2022, in regard to your wife: “I swear at her… it’s like I have Tourette’s with the insults“- is this .. bad noise still happening?
anita
* Just as I was to submit the above, I noticed that you added a post: “... whoever you all are, when I get these wonderful replies to my messages I fall in love with you. Why does this happen to me? my heart actually yearns for whoever you are to help me and I feel you can heal my life for me. I feel this way about lots of things careers, people, cars and motorbikes. I’ve read that this is an ADHD trait I hope this doesn’t put anyone off replying to me.”– no, it doesn’t discourage me from replying to you. I think that the reason you get hopeful about being helped and healed is because you need help and healing. Connecting this to my post above: you very much need to replace bad noise with good noise.
anita
anitaParticipantContinued:
I couldn’t love me (=care about my well-being), for half a century+, because I kept loving my mother (caring about her well-being), and her well-being was dependent on destroying mine. She used me to EXpress her misery and rage, to relieve the pressure within her, so to live another day.
She INserted her misery (through histrionic displays) and rage (through raging displays) into me, so that she could- temporarily- be free of that misery and rage.. so that she could get a relief.
For more than half a century, I kept loving the woman who used me in this way, used me as a repository for her misery and her rage, a receptacle, a container.
Misery and Rage Container is an accurate description of what I was about.
It takes a lifetime (a half a century+) to see this terrible truth as it is.
I can’t think of a more appropriate a definition of Enemy than what my mother has been to me.
That my mother was born a good, innocent little girl who was abused, terribly mistreated- before I was born– makes no difference to my experience of being a total victim of a vicious enemy, the enemy that the former innocent girl has become.. in my life.
I have never been as clear as I am this evening. It’s all so clear.
She is old now, and every time I thought about the physical age-related aches and pains she must be going through (I haven’t talked to her/ seen her for over 11 years), I used to feel pain for her being in pain, every single time, until this Tues, June 4, 2024. The strangest thing happened this evening, for the FIRST time in my life: I smiled when I thought about her being in pain.
I want to clarify: if it was up to me, she wouldn’t be in pain at all; if it was up to me, there would be no war, no violence in the whole world. But since it’s not up to me, the thought of my mother in pain- for the very first time in my life- made me smile.
I can’t believe it, this has never happened before!
What a strange, strange thing: the smile just happened, and I didn’t feel badly about smiling!
It reminds me of the smile she had on her face right after she shot a few shaming, hurtful words my way, uncensored; equipped with as much shame- ammunition as possible; that anticipatory smile, anticipating hurt and shame to be registered on my face, anticipating it with pleasure, the corners of her mouth going slightly up. Waiting for my pain; My Pain= Her Pleasure.
I was never able to wrap my mind around it: that my pain meant pleasure to her (No, it can’t be, it’s impossible!). It can be. It happened to me.
It’s such a horrible truth, but truth nonetheless. No more doubting that mild, anticipatory smile on her face.
To be continued-
anita
anitaParticipantDear Kshitij:
You are welcome, and thank you for your appreciation and grace!
“This is what I wrote in my journal just a few minutes back- ‘Sometimes it appears like I am living in a state of constant fear… anxious about not doing enough, not making the best out of this opportunity… that I have been able to do nothing and others are doing far better than me“- the pressure to do more, to make the best out of this opportunity, to do as well or better than others- is causing you anxiety.
“What is the result? I feel that I am always rushing, that I am lagging behind“- I read that Rushing and Being late/ lagging behind are two sides of the same coin.
“A part of me feels constant fatigue, partially because from the past two months my sleep pattern has been really bad…“- I checked, it’s 1:40 am where you are (at the time I submit this post). The pressure and the anxiety that goes with it is exhausting you.
If.. if you truly, deeply understand how harmful pressure is for you, how it is congruent with failure, (and incongruent with success), is there a way for you to form the intent to remove any and all pressure from your mind, as in saying: if I fail, I fail, so be it..?
“I am not anyways very good in socializing“- no wonder, being that you are under so much stress, and so exhausted.
“I have exams in less than two weeks of time, that is also adding on some stress“- removing the unnecessary, harmful pressure from your mind- will lower your stress level and promote your chances to do better academically.
anita
anitaParticipantDear Kshitij:
You are welcome, but I am sorry the effect was negative.
“I don’t know why reading quotes has become an anxiety trigger causing intrusive thoughts/flashbacks just as it did now… reading any type of quote, especially related to things like hope, resilience etc. gives me terrible anxiety and often lead me to a spiral of flashbacks“- maybe (?) because such quotes create pressure in you, pressure to become more resilient and hopeful, and pressure of any kind is the least of what you need.
“Please do not take it as a complaint, it is really a very kind thing, but this is something I thought I should share with you“- I don’t take it as a complaint; I take it as a compliment: that you feel safe enough with me to tell me your truth. I very much appreciate you sharing this with me. Now I know what I didn’t know before because you told me, so thank you!
“The quote about mental rushing: the moment I read it felt personal. It felt so true. I do not know in what ways it is true, but it felt very relatable“- slowing-down is the cure to rushing, isn’t it. That’s what Mindfulness is about, guided meditations online, even relaxing music.
“Even beyond this, I am feeling lonely and miserable these days.“- I am sorry to read this.. Socializing is another slowing-down/ calming activity. I wish there was a group of people you can spend time with for a couple of hours every afternoon or evening, or every other day..!
anita
anitaParticipantDear SadSoul:
“I wasn’t amazing myself in a positive way“- I know you meant negatively, but you amaze me positively.
“One day I’m sure we’ll cross antlers on a subject but it isn’t a reason to hurt one another over… I can assure you that I will not be thinking meanly, or wanting to hurt you. If we do, I’ll remind you we’re just deer having a little tangle with our pointy horns“- we already crossed antlers at the start, I am impressed by how well we handled it!
I have an image of a mousy brown-fur deer with very dark brown, almost black eyes and pointy horns, crossing antlers with me.. is that you, SadSoul, are you a fellow deer (dear)?
“I did a strange thing yesterday. I bought some clothes. I went to the cheap department store and had a bit of a shop up. It was desperately needed. My clothes are full of holes“- we have this in common as well, my clothes are full of holes, and I desperately need new (or no-holes old) clothes!
“I got so many bargains. And in my favourite colours too“- what are your favorite colors? Mine is just one: turquoise.
“Do your eyes have flecks of gold and green in them? The offspring with hazel eyes has“- last I looked into my eyes, it was just green, no gold (in addition to the brown).
“I promise you my eyes don’t turn on anyone with the things your mother’s did“- I like that, and that it’s a promise.
“Eyes. A window to the soul. For so many years sad black eyes filled with tears“- sad black eyes filled with tears, a window to your Soul. Even if/ when I get to know your real name (which has no s in it), I think that I’d prefer to call you SadSoul.
“but just these few weeks crinkled almost shut with laughter, beginning to see life again“- this brought a smile to my face, and I just noticed the sound of a bird chirping outside.
“I imagine sanctimonious people have large, pointy, slightly hooked noses, held up in the air with their self importance dripping out with drops of runny snoot. Hahaha. I’m picturing myself with this now. Much laughter now hahaha“- I told you sometime ago that English is not my first language (and my attention and memory are compromised), so I am not aware of the connotation of words I use, if I hardly use them… I just looked up “sanctimonious“, and it is not a negative connotational word, its definition is negative: pretending to be morally better than other people/ making a hypocritical show of religious devotion. I didn’t mean that about you. (Please remember this point next time I use big/ uncommonly used words).
Runny snoot running out of large hooked sanctimonious noses.. you are hilarious, SadSoul!
“My father was much more than insulting… the scared weird child me doing my best to survive by being sorry and all that. The other half I’m relieved he’s gone and I don’t have to face seeing him, what it did to my mind and heart“- the scared child SadSoul.. she isn’t weird at all.
“Tell me something lovely in your day. Tell me something awful in your day. Tell me something indifferent in your day! Dear Anita!“- the curtains are covering the windows right now, let me open them.. Lovely: lots and lots of green outside, hardly anything but shades of green. (I am considering elevating green to a favorite color status). I hear birds chirping, different sounds, different birds. Not lovely/ awful: itchy insects bites on my lower legs, the kind that when hit by hot water, it’s a crazy- crazy- making sensation.. Have to put on insect repellent every time I am on the grass/ green when the temperatures are high enough to awaken blood feasting insects.
Good having a chat with you this afternoon (here), SadSoul!
anita
anitaParticipantDear Kshitij:
I thought that I’d look up some quotes about hopelessness for you. I think that the following apply to you, as well as to me and many others (I am adding the boldface feature):
“The best way to not feel hopeless is to get up and do something. Don’t wait for good things to happen to you. If you go out and make some good things happen, you will fill the world with hope, you will fill yourself with hope” (“… helplessness induce(s) hopelessness”),
“In times of great stress or adversity, it’s always best to keep busy, to plow your anger and your energy into something positive”
“The world is bad but not without hope. It is only hopeless when you look at it from an ideal viewpoint”
“when things go wrong, don’t go with them“, “do not despair, do not give up, look for the sunlight through the clouds“.
And a quote (medium. com/ why I am not in a hurry and you shouldn’t be either) about mental rushing (such as perhaps, … Intrusive and Anxious Thoughts): “Being in a hurry is not solely a visible action. It is an internal state that comes from the human desire to speed up time in the hope of achieving the result faster. We may also say, it is an internal aggression toward time… hastiness leads to suffering and a loss of presence in the present moment… People who speed up time drastically lower their energy levels and start getting chronic fatigue and sick… You must let go of rushing, internally as well as externally. It’s as much a mindset as a behavior that you are letting go of”
anita
anitaParticipantDear SadSoul:
“I completely amaze myself sometimes“- you completely amaze me too sometimes, in positive ways.
“I have the attention span of a gnat“- you are funny, to me (again, in a positive way).
“I’m good. Not as overworked so far this week!“- good!
“I just didn’t want you to be worrying you’d says the wrong thing. In truth I think you said a whole lot of amazing things that express emotions that need to find a way out of you“- thank you! I had a talk with myself before I dared reading your replies: first, a voice said: SadSoul will be angry with me for projecting my mother into her!, and I felt some anxiousness about it. I then said to myself: but I told SadSoul that I was projecting, that it’s not her I got angry with when I typed a word in big print, I have let her know! I calmed down some and started reading your 2 posts.
“I think we’re fairly much on the same page. Just want you to know you’re not alone. I’m here“- that’s a biggie: to not be alone, to be on the same page with another person. Makes me smile.
“I read your thread and agree. Half a century. But we get to start shaping the other half century to be a bit different. That’s what I’m thinking and hoping on“- shaping today to be a bit different is what I am hoping for, one day, one night at a time.
“My heart has stopped hurting for some long stretches just lately. Thank you for asking me and I feel like there might be winds of change blowing through me“- this is the best part of what I am reading so far!!!
“How are you going, dear Anita? So you can picture a little of me, like I can of you now, I have very dark brown almost black eyes. I have mouse brown hair with lots of grey“- I am pretty calm this morning. I just googled the meaning and images of “mouse brown hair”, somewhere between dark blond and light brown.. just a bit darker than I imagined. Very dark brown, almost black eyes… like my (brace yourself!) my mother’s (ahhhhhhhhhhh). Mine are brown with some hazel.
“I really do want to know how you are and more about who you are“- we can keep exchanging little details like the above.
“When I was 13 or 14 my father told me my hair was mouse brown… In the same lecture, he also told me I would end up barefoot and pregnant at a young age, just like my mother… I wondered why he didn’t get her some shoes“- funny, Funny SadSoul!
“Sometimes I feel so guilty I cut ties. But then I remember the mouse brown barefoot pregnant me he predicted and I feel so righteous!“- when you cut ties with him, you cut ties from a man who insulted you and more, that was fair, righteous, sanctimonious Sad Soul!
anita
anitaParticipantI can re-join humanity, once I un-join my mother.
anita
anitaParticipantDear Meatball:
It’s 7:08 pm here (west coast), and good to read (!) that you cancelled her flights for the trip, and having a friend (a real friend) replace her.
“This time I’m staying strong and doing what needs to be done“- this is Strong You!
I am well, thank you, and I feel better for reading/ feeling your strength!
May the Force be with you! (a Star Wars saying).
anita
anitaParticipantContinued:
It’s mind boggling to me, the truth of it, the reality of it: that I invested all of me, for half a century, in a project (my mother’s love) that was 100% a failure project, as she was blind and deaf to me. Looking back, there was 0% chance of her hearing or seeing me. When I say zero, I am not exaggerating. It was- is- zero chance for me to be heard or seen by my mother.
She just couldn’t, didn’t have it in her, the ability to see/ hear me.
That was/ is Fact. Always has been, since the day I was brought into the world.
So, I .. shake off me 1/2 a century of a wasted life.. a misunderstanding, on my part.
Notice, it’s been a waste of half a century (for crying out loud!) of my life, not because of war or a natural disaster, but because my mother couldn’t, wouldn’t see me/ hear me/ acknowledge that I Am Here, in this world.
To be continued-‘
anita
anitaParticipantDear SadSoul:
“Yes you. You are a special person. I’ll keep saying this until there is a small part of you that feels special. I’ll keep saying this after then in the hopes a bigger part of you can feel special“- it feels as if (it’s hard for me to find the words), as if you are my mother, not that mother, but .. a mother for me, and strangely, I feel as if (and I know it’s not true), as if you are looking down at me with pity, as an inferior specimen. I am typing this as-I-think, and again, please understand that I know this is not what is happening, I know that you are not pitying me and trying to send me a message that is negative in any way.
What I am doing here is exploring my reaction, letting it be, as I type, not knowing what I will be typing next.
I can’t trust a positive sentiment sent my way, or I should say, it is difficult for me to accept it, to take it in, particularly from a woman.
The message that I am positively special, a message not sent with a condescending attitude.. what does it mean?
I mean, I roamed the world feeling negatively special, or unspecial for decades, my whole youth spent in unspecial, and NOW you say I am special?
As I typed the NOW, I felt anger, and it was directed to my mother projected into you, for a moment (not you): NOW you say I am (postively) special? Where were you all these years, these **** decades?
“I’m sorry we have to skip to the adult you before this happened to you, and I understand how hard it is to take on when your childhood tips you the opposite so you lived un-special for your adulthood. We will both get there“- I wrote the above before I attentively read this part. You understand.
“I imagine that your hair is dirty blond nope (with grey yes), that you are about 1.70 meter tall nope, no to little make up yes, very light skin nope; wild sport: 2-person canoe riding nope..”- haha, hilarious!!! Smiling. Okay, so, with grey hair, little to no makeup, so far like me. And we both don’t do canoes (I won a canoe in a supermarket raffle afew years ago, didn’t use it, not even once).
“Thank you for giving me a starting point on who my invisible friend is!”- you are welcome. I gave you the wrong height though, more like 167-8 cem (5’5”).
“No no no no! It’s not embarrassing. Shzz happens and this sounds pretty scary and it’s not embarrassing. People aren’t like your mother, judging with mean spiritedness and a small nasty mind. So please, please, instead know that people care when others have accidents and get hurt. Please don’t feel guilty. I understand these emotions because they’re my life’s masterpiece, but they’re wrong wrong, wrong. Gotta not hang onto bad rubbish they gave us.“- I noticed the part of “people care” yesterday, and it made me incredulous. I don’t think it crossed my mind Fri, when my hand got cut, that caring may be sent my way, so used to being alone with emotional pain, unseen, uncared for.. it just didn’t cross my mind.
I’ve been too alone for too long.
Thank you, SadSoul.
How are you these days, as far as being overworked and otherwise?
anita
anitaParticipantDear Meatball:
June 2: ” We were set to leave for a vacation in a couple days. It won’t be easy but I’m still going WITHOUT her. I’ve asked her to be out by the time I get back.“- you are set to leave for a vacation tomorrow, June 4. Two days ago, you told her that you will be going on vacation without her, and that she should be out by the time you are back. It is possible that by this time, 21 hours after you posted, she talked you into leaving on vacation with her… And that she will not be out of your house by the time you (and her) return from vacation.
It’s possible because of (1) your anxious attachment style and codependency, (2) she has no money/ credit to rent her own place and no one to take her in, (3) it’s been a pattern: “I know it has to end, but I’m so emotional and… I don’t want to live without her (and daughter) in my life. One day I’m crying all day and the next day I’m OK boxing up more things” (April 28).
You wanted to help and rescue another damsel in distress, didn’t you? (“most of my relationships and most women I have had relationships with have been ‘broken’ and in need of ‘fixing’“), thinking that if you provide for her a stable home, rent/ expense free, following her chaotic childhood (“she was moving around house to house, state to state…“), she’d appreciate you and the stability you offer her, and treat you with the love and respect forevermore..?
Problem is that when you met her, she was 34, not the child that she was 20-30 earlier. You met a woman with established mental-emotional and behavioral habits that are not congruent with a stable relationship. The chaotic events of her childhood transferred to chaos in her mind, heart and relationships.
“”I’ve been Mr. nice guy and have always put her needs above mine, this is what I needed to finally get it thru my thick scull that I deserve so much more and need to find someone that actually WANTS to be with me. I’m MAD and SAD, probably more mad at myself for being a doormat and always believing her“- please be kind to the anxious and codependent part of you, make your mental-emotional health your No 1 priority.
anita
anitaParticipantThank you, SadSoul. I will soon be leaving for a hike and be back to you late afternoon (it’s morning here).
anita
anitaParticipantDear Meatball:
I hope that you are okay, that you are strong in this difficult time. I have to go out and about earlier tan planned, therefore, I will submit a post for you in about 6 hours or so.
anita
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