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December 10, 2018 at 8:48 am #268695AnonymousGuest
Dear Janus, Earth Angel:
You explained the issue very well in the recent three posts, clearly, well done. You differentiated between “biological sex” which is binary and “gender”/ “gender identity” which is a mix of feelings a person has regarding male/ female bodily parts and features, as well as behaviors and societal perceptions and expectations relating to biological sex. Gender, according to this definition, is a spectrum of thoughts, feelings and behaviors.
You explained very well the evolution of body dysphoria as it becomes in some people long term, maybe permanent and is focused on gender identity.
Before I proceed with my understanding, I have two questions that can help me understand better:
1. Humans are the only animals that express gender identity problems, correct? No evidence of other animals in the wild or in captivity disliking their biological sex? I would imagine such evidence would be animals mutilating or trying to rid themselves of their own sexual organs/ features?
2. In societies before testosterone injections were available, before surgical removal of sexual organs and features was an option, what did people suffering from gender identity do? Any literature of people’s struggles from that time, breast binders existing then (does not require medical technology that wasn’t available then)? I wonder if the lack of the medical option at the time led people at that time to accept their biological sex because of lack of options that are now available…?
anita
December 11, 2018 at 8:19 am #268849AnonymousGuestDear Janus, Earth Angel:
Wikipedia, I learned this very morning, has lots, long entries on transgenders, three of those are titled: “Transgenders”, “Transgender history” and “History of transgender people in the United States”.
I wasn’t aware, didn’t know that the transgender history goes as early as the beginning of human society, long before modern history, anywhere and everywhere on the face of this earth. I also understand better that indeed gender identity is separate and independent of sexual orientation. I knew this before, but seeing the statistics verifies it for me. Transgenders existed long, long before any activism and before any advances in medicine. Gender Identity really is a spectrum issue and has been so from the beginning of human history.
I clearly see the difference between biological sex and gender identity.
I want to point out the following quote from “Transgenders”:
“Many transgender people experience gender dysphoria, and some seek medical treatments such as hormone replacement therapy, sex reassignment surgery, or psychotherapy. Not all transgender people desire these treatments… Since the 1990s, transsexual has generally been used to describe the subset of transgender people who desire to transition permanently to the gender with which they identify and who seek medical assistance with this.”
This means that not all transgenders experience gender dysphoria (news to me), and that not all transgenders desire medical transitioning, even if they can afford it.
Another quote: “Most mental health professionals recommend therapy for internal conflicts about gender identity or discomfort in an assigned gender role, especially if one desires to transition. People who experience discord between their gender and the expectations of others or whose gender identity conflicts with their body may benefit by talking through their feelings in depth”-
what I italicized is what I see as true to you, being so very concerned with “the expectations of others”. So, my understanding at this point is that the main challenge in front of you is not that you are transgender, but that you suffer from gender dysphoria.
I also read elsewhere regarding the chest binder is that the right sport bra is a much better option (??)
Back to gender dysphoria: not all transgenders suffer from gender dysphoria. I imagine lots do. You are one of many. This is why therapy, I suppose more therapy than what you already had is a very good idea, sometime in the future if not very soon. The medical transitioning is such a serious matter, that better have adequate therapy, explore all that needs to be explored at depth before embarking on such a drastic physical transformation that requires lifetime medical intervention, or upkeep if everything goes well, assuming I understand correctly.
Wow, what an eye opening morning.
anita
December 19, 2018 at 11:42 am #270035JanusParticipantDear Anita
This is the last week of Fall 2018 semester and class finals are wrapping up and I will be on winter break December 22nd-January 22nd. I have Spring 2019 semester at Ocean County College and then I will transfer to a four year university- hopefully I will get into Rutgers- New Brunswick for genetic engineering. I will miss Ocean County College, but I am excited to attend a four year university because I will be living in a dorm on campus (currently I commute to college and back home because I’m at community college) and will have time away from my parents. Last week was a good week for me because I didn’t get misgendered once and there was a lot of holiday fun at Ocean County College and I enjoyed playing some de-stressing games such as checkers. It made feel truly alive for once to have a week where no one called me the wrong gender and also have time to de-stress from finals. Most of my classes are winding down and I have completed all the assignments. This Friday is the wiccan winter solstice so I am going to take time off to celebrate. I’ll probably take a walk out in nature and enjoy the time to relax.
Thank you for your understanding and for being here for me. It is great to have friends like you who help me cope with gender dysphoria. I feel like I have a clearer sense of self when I talk about my feelings because it makes them tangible and easier to understand.
Humans are not the only animals that have high ranges of emotions. The limbic system of the brain that regulates emotions is larger in dolphins and whales. This allows dolphins and whales to express higher frequencies of emotions than humans. Dolphins can feel more emotions than humans because they have a bigger prefrontal cortex and limbic system. Dolphins are highly sensitive creatures especially the females. If you take a baby dolphin away from its mother, the mother will emit a cry of a specific frequency to try to find its child and the cry can be measured on a sonogram to check the sound waves and they correspond to ones similar to a person crying with grief which is why scientists have discovered dolphins can feel sadness. Also the other female dolphins will check on the grieving dolphin to see if she is okay. Whales are the same way. Whales feel grief if a baby whale is separated from their mother much like dolphins. Sometimes the whale feels so much grief that it decides to not come up for air. Whales have a blowhole that spouts out water as they break the surface of the water to breathe, but they can choose not sure come back and they can drown in grief. That may be where we get the term “drowning in misery.” Even though animals may not appear to express sadness, they can still experience it. Pain, sadness and fear on any levels can be felt by all species throughout the animal kingdom. Yet, gender dysphoria relates more to the intense depression a human feels when they feel like their bodies don’t match their gender identity. Humans have an ability to reason and a sense of self which allows them to communicate their feelings to others. Animals also have a language in which they communicate their feelings, but most animals do not establish specific behaviors of gender as people do. People are conscious of their bodies and society likes to assign gender roles at birth to people, but in animals gender roles are not as defined. Gender roles help society set organized boundaries and allows people to interrelate with one another. Since animals don’t create gender constructs or assign themselves a gender, they don’t have the same gender presentations humans do. Humans may dress in different ways that present our gender identity, as for animals they will pick the traits that most aid their survival. Humans have an ability to reason so they have a sense of who they are and can create gender structures of behavior, but animals don’t create specific gender cues because they are mostly focused on survival. If a trait helps them survive and replenish their species, nature will favor that trait. There have been many cases where allopatric speciation has taken place in which a group of fish in a pond become separated from the main group. The separated group may be all of one sex- say female. Overtime, some of the fish will change their sex to be male so the fish species can survive. Since animals don’t have a defined sense of gender identity, scientists believe they do not experience gender dysphoria as humans do. To experience gender dysphoria, you would have to be aware of gender roles and feel like your body doesn’t match your gender identity which requires a sense of self-awareness that is common in higher-level mammals and not all species of the animal kingdom. Although, animals may not have the higher level intelligence of humans to experience gender dysphoria, they are still capable of feeling emotions of pain, fear and sadness. The colobus monkey feels hurt because upon reaching puberty, the male colobus monkey is shooed away from his family to join another group of single males. Evolution has caused male colobus monkeys to have their anus swell before puberty mimicking a female so it stops them from being kicked out of their family and although the swelling stops later on, this feature stays with them for life. Scientists believe that male colobus monkeys are expected by their family to have sought a female monkey when they are capable of reproducing to replenish the species so it may be a way of shaming the male monkey by kicking them out of the family and having them go into a group of single male monkeys if upon puberty they haven’t met a female monkey. So by imitating a female monkey, the male monkey makes it seem like he understands that female monkeys can reproduce and that makes the family seem more accepting of him and they may allow him to stay for a while until he finds a female monkey so he doesn’t feel like his ‘masculinity’ is questioned by being kicked out of the monkey pod. Also animals can change their sex based on environmental and genetic factors. Female lions are often born with more testosterone than males so they are more aggressive and many of them may grow manes. Scientists believe that female lions do this to appear more fierce to other animals that may pose a threat to their young. Both male and female hyenas have a testes and penis. The elongated clitoris in female hyenas is called a “pseudo-penis” and it serves as protection for the female hyena. Female hyenas also urinate, give birth and mate using this feature. Although animals don’t exhibit the higher level of intelligence to be self-aware of their gender identity and don’t experience gender dysphoria, their bodies often change due to genetics, the environment and their drive to survive and reproduce so there are animals that can exhibit different sexual characteristics. In animals, it is not as defined as humans though because humans can create gender roles, dress the way they want but animals don’t do that. Animals often change their bodies to adapt to nature and for survival so their bodies may not be as defined physically as humans and they don’t really have a sense of gender.
It is often easier to transition if you are diagnosed with gender dysphoria by a gender therapist, but it is correct that you do not need gender dysphoria to be transgender. A transgender person is someone who feels comfortable with the opposite gender than the one they were born with. Since transgender people often feel like their bodies don’t match their gender identity, most will experience gender dysphoria but not all. Gender dysphoria is a feeling many gender therapists look for in transgender people before they decide to help them in their transition. Since many transgender people have gender dysphoria, it is often assumed by people that you need gender dysphoria to be transgender but that’s not the case. Some transgender people do not have gender dysphoria, but they are still transgender. They may not feel an extreme emotional pain about parts of their body, but they still feel that the biological sex that they were assigned doesn’t match their gender identity and these people are also transgender even though they may not experience gender dysphoria. For people who feel like their gender identity doesn’t match their birth sex and are transgender but do not experience gender dysphoria, many people refer to their feelings about their gender identity as gender dissonance. These transgender people may not experience gender dysphoria, but feel like their gender identity doesn’t fit into what society deems them to be and they feel a lack of harmony or belonging into the identity assigned to them at birth or a gender dissonance.
Most people who start to question their gender identity spend six months with a gender therapist before the gender therapist decides to write a prescription for hormones. Many gender therapists also ask the person to live a year as their preferred gender and see how it feels and if it feels right for them then they may consider a medical procedure like sex reassignment surgery. Many transgender people dislike sports bras because they don’t bind as well and there have been transgender people who have broken ribs by wearing two sports bras to make their chest look flatter. Modern chest binders are made of nylon and they have a good ability to compress the chest so it makes it look flatter. Chest binders aren’t the most comfortable though because they do limit movement and it can be hard to breathe with them on, but it is often better than gender dysphoria. In addition, before there were chest binders many people bind their chests with bandages or tape. The modern chest binders are a lot safer because binding with tape and bandages is very restricting on the chest muscles and can result in bruised ribs and breathing problems. Many stores sell transgender binding tape that is specifically for transgender males to bind their chests and the tape can be adjusted to various lengths of comfort. Gender nonconformity goes back to Native American times. Native Americans believed people who felt like they didn’t have a female/male identity had the potential to understand the souls of people and thought of them as healers. Many of the Native Americans called these people “two-spirit” because they could understand both genders.
With each passing day, it seems like I am losing touch with the feminine aspect of myself and becoming more masculine. I don’t hate females, but I just don’t feel like one anymore- like there is a void where that gender used to be and it gives me room to express my true self. I dislike wearing dresses, fashion accessories and dolls, anything that gives the gender stereotype of being female. I enjoy wearing gender neutral clothing mostly in dark colors that make me appear more masculine. I have realized that I feel more comfortable as the opposite gender- male- and have started to dress and act in ways that seem more masculine. I enjoy having my hair short, not only because it’s easier to maintain but because it makes me feel more like a male. I have always been interested in computer science, engineering and body-building which are stereotypical of males. I realize I am also happier when portraying the opposite gender. The gender dysphoria at its worst feels like I’m looking at myself through a glass- feeling detached from life and then the glass breaks and the shards of broken glass pierce my heart and I experience extreme emotional pain, discomfort and depression. I have been seeing the counselors at Ocean County College who help me with my gender dysphoria. Ocean Pride LGBT club at Ocean County College has been very helpful. My college friends from Ocean Pride have helped me with the hard times. It is because of my friends and the college counselors that have helped me find a sense of self. I have grown in confidence as I am currently finishing my third semester (one more semester to go) at Ocean County College and being with Ocean Pride LGBT club has helped me better understand my feelings. I know I am transgender as I identify as male, but was born female. Being a male is what makes me happy and feels right for me. I chose the name Janus because I was born in January and Janus is the Roman God of new beginnings and transitions. I feel like it is a new beginning for me where I feel closer to who I am as a person. I don’t feel like I’ve become a new person, but a better version of myself- a person who has more of a sense of self.
So I’ve been working on dropping all labels except for scientific and spiritual because I feel those are the ones that fit me the most. These days, people see the real me and they aren’t sure if I’m in pain or happy and they often ask me if I’m okay. My feelings range from pain to numbness/ detachment to happiness these days. I have begun to assess all my feelings including the painful ones and I am no longer running and trying to hide the pain like I used to. The thing that makes me annoyed is that when people will still put labels on me when they don’t fit anymore. At those times, I want to snap at them and say “I’m not any of those anymore. You don’t know me.” The thing is my college friends understand that I am in the process of finding myself and they accept the journey I’m undertaking. Ocean Pride LGBT is great because we all share similar stories and I feel like I can totally be me in that club. Other people who don’t know me well are quick to put labels on me and think that they know me, but they really don’t. I am finding my separate soul entity from this world, finding my true self, the person at the soul. I want to sift through all the memories and experience them and let them all go and find my core self beyond my physical thoughts. When making my life’s choices, I want to find and follow the ones in my heart and not those people expect of me. Currently to paraphrase the quote from As Simple As Snow (book I read) : “I know nothing of where I’m going, but that’s okay. Before I had everything, then lost it all and now I have nothing. But with nothing, I have everything to gain. There is no more of the baggage that I’ve carried with me and I travel light. Wherever I’m going, Whomever I am doesn’t matter. With losing myself, I have nothing to lose and everything to gain.” I feel like I am working on releasing parts of myself and there are parts of me that are gone, but I have a clearer sense of who I am without the emotional baggage. I realize that strength is not being physically strong. Strength is not about being able to defend yourself in a fight or covering up the pain. Strength is moving through the pain and not letting it control you. Strength is being able to get back up when you’ve hit rock bottom and trying to start over again. Strength is about being compassionate and being okay with your flaws and working on being a better person daily. I thought that to be masculine I had to have physical strength, that I had to be sure of myself and be able to deal with sadness. But I realize now that strength is not trying to act as if I can hold it together or covering up the pain by showing the physical muscles. Strength is realizing that you are not perfect and being okay with that and accepting that you are okay being you. Strength is doing what helps you be happy and heal not breaking your body down by working out to the extreme so you can look muscular. Strength is about taking little steps to improve your life and being okay that you may not make everyone happy but being confident doing what makes you feel good. My perceptions of what strength was have changed and I realize that I have strength and although it may not be what society sees strength as I am okay with that because to me strength is building yourself up and going for the things that help you heal and not limit you. I tried so hard to be strong in the ways of society that I became anorexic trying to make myself appear masculine, but I am healing and have realized that true strength and courage lie within the heart and not in the values of other people. I don’t want to break myself to achieve what seems like strength to others because it won’t last. If I’m not happy on the inside because I’m trying to fit into a stereotype of what I should be then I’m only limiting my potential to grow and that’s not strength. Strength is working on building yourself up, learning from your flaws, making mistakes and knowing that you’re okay being you and working on seeking a happiness that feels right for you. That is what I am working towards, I am working towards establishing my inner strength.
December 19, 2018 at 11:46 am #270039AnonymousGuestDear Janus, Earth Angel:
I am glad you posted, I was looking forward to read from you, but was just about to turn off the computer when I noticed your recent post. I will be back to the computer tomorrow morning in about sixteen hours from now, will read and reply to your recent message when I am back.
Take good care of yourself!
anita
December 20, 2018 at 6:02 am #270121AnonymousGuestDear Janus, Earth Angel:
Two more days before the one month winter break! I hope you do take it easy and yet be productive during this coming month.
You explain things so well, always have, detailed and clear, you do have this gift. And what an amazing explanation, regarding the colobus monkeys, the male’s anus swells before puberty so to be mistaken for a female and not be expelled from the group, amazing! And female lions being born with more testosterone than males (I did wonder about that, females hunting while the males seemed relaxed in those nature movies!), and even grow manes to appear more fierce to other animals that may pose a threat to their young. Amazing.
So there are examples then, in nature, of males taking on female features, appearing female and females taking on male features, appearing male. There is also this fact that female lions have more testosterone than males.
Regarding Gender Identity and Gender Dysphoria, I figured since my last post to you that the two are not the same, that a male having the gender identity of female (being transgender) is not necessarily dysphoric and same regarding a female having the gender identity of male.
“It is correct that you do not need gender dysphoria to be transgender”, you wrote. The distress of transgenders who are not dysphoric is a result of societal prejudice, questioning, ridicule and such. The distress of transgenders who are also dysphoric is both, that which I just mentioned, plus being uncomfortable in one own body, that ongoing discomfort. Most transgenders experience dysphoria, you wrote, but not all. But even those who don’t, if I understand correctly, experience some distress, not so much as to qualify as gender dysphoria, but some that is labeled “gender dissonance”.
I also understood and more so, following reading your recent post, that gender identity and dysphoria in humans is a result of combination of emotions and cognition, of thoughts. The monkeys and female lions in the amazing examples do not think about gender, they just react, evolution reacts for them.
I didn’t know there is such a thing as a “gender therapist” and it reads good to me that many gender therapists ask that a person lives a year as their preferred gender before considering medical procedures. I understand about modern chest binders vs sport bras. And I did read about “two spirits” in Wikipedia but didn’t understand it until you explained it to me.
You shared that with each passing day, you are “becoming more masculine”, and you don’t feel like a female anymore, like there is a void there where there used to be female and you are filling that void with the gender you identify with. As I read your words I feel respect for your gender being indeed male. You really are, definitely invested in male as being your gender. As I type at this moment, I think of you as male because, really, it is so very clear to me, I have a better understanding of you and of the issue than I ever did before. And it just occurred to me how much better life would be for transgenders if more and more people would understand. And it occurred to me that because you explain things so well, you will be perfect in promoting this education, speaking in gatherings, teaching!
Now I know why you chose the name Janus, having been born in January, and Janus being the Roman god of new beginnings and transitions. Oh, transitioning, I see. Social transitioning is your current process. “My feelings range from pain to numbness/ detachment to happiness these days… I am no longer running and trying to hide the pain like I used to… Strength is moving through the pain and not letting it control you.. to start over again.. being a better person daily… strength is not trying to act as if I can hold it together or covering up the pain by showing the physical muscles.. Strength is realizing that you are not perfect and being okay with that and accepting that… not breaking your body down by working out to the extreme so you can look muscular. Strength is about taking little steps to improve your life and being okay that you may not make everyone happy… I tried so hard to be strong in the ways of society that I became anorexic trying to make myself appear masculine, but I am healing and have realized that true strength and courage lie within the heart and not in the values of other people”- this is amazing (yet again, I am amazed!) How well you express yourself and how accurately you understand strength. I didn’t intend to quote so much in this paragraph but as I read what you wrote, I felt that it had to be repeated.
My goodness, I am so privileged to get to know you better, to understand you more and because of you, to understand gender identity and dysphoria so much more than what I understood… and misunderstood before.
anita
December 21, 2018 at 10:37 am #270327JanusParticipantDear Anita
I have planned out my schedule for Spring 2019 semester (last full semester at Ocean County College) and working on taking summer Physics II and Calculus III so I will have enough credit requirements to transfer. I am currently working on my Rutgers application, the college essay prompt is to describe why you would be a good student at Rutgers and I am working on that. I listed four volunteer activities in my college application: Ocean Pride, NJSTARS, Environmental Club and also Math Tutoring. After the essay (which I am still drafting and revising), I have completed most of the application and will submit it. The deadline for transfer students is February 1st and students get notified of acceptance around May. After I have finished these tasks, I will work on the FAFSA. I think I will complete the FAFSA before I submit my college application because it will allow room for scholarships to open up based on my financial merit.
Scientists haven’t discovered a way to see if animals have gender dysphoria because most animals don’t have the gender presentations humans do. Also, animals don’t ‘self-mutilate’ their bodies to adapt to the environment. Natural selection and evolution often play a factor on animal developments . Humans have the ability to reason and make decisions which leads to a more defined sense of self and gender identity which is different from animals who mostly take upon various traits to adapt to their environment and survive. Most animals don’t know how to care for themselves with medicines and surgery like humans do. I don’t think even with the dexterity that a monkey’s fingers may have that a monkey could hold a vaccine and try to inject itself with the medicine. For starters, the vaccine may not be compatible with the monkey’s immune system and I don’t think the monkey would understand that the vaccine is helpful and not harmful because it would be able to comprehend the pain rather than the benefits because of cognition differences between humans and animals. Animals may not express gender dysphoria or a defined sense of gender identity and most don’t ‘self-mutilate’ themselves to have a specific body form. Mutations can be risky to a species’ survival out in nature, so it is often in nature’s interests to favor the traits that may help aid survival. If animals had their basic needs met, perhaps they could have a sense of self-worth and identity like humans because if they didn’t have to search for food and water, it may allow for higher cognition to take place and for them to develop reasoning power. But if all animals had the same reasoning power, there would not be competition and competition is important in helping regulate species. If a tiger had the same intellect as a human and since the tiger is a carnivore, it may be bad for the human who wants to hunt animals because the animals will be able to anticipate each others’ moves and it wouldn’t be possible to figure out who would be better off. It would be difficult to kill the tiger because of its new intellect, but it would also pose a problem for humans because the animal populations would like rise to large numbers because of their intellect and many will try to fight for dominance but each one will be able to anticipate the other that there wouldn’t be a species that would rise to the top and help control the populations and things would go wrong.
Since humans have a higher level of cognition, mental health is important to them. An individual may be physically healthy, but have mental health issues that result that can lead to physical problems like depression and illness. Since humans have the ability to reason and also create new inventions that can advance medicine, it is important for humans to have ways to improve their sense of well-being in life. Humans don’t have to chase their food like animals do, so the basic needs of food and shelter are met. Food, water and shelter are things humans can obtain relatively easily because of their high intellect. With these basic needs met, they can develop higher cognitive functions such as a sense of identity and self-esteem. Since mental well-being is important because humans think with their minds, sometimes mental unrest is a reason why humans seek medicine to help them with their well-being. People are motivated to move towards pleasure and away from pain, which includes emotional pain. The development of higher cognition in humans allows people to be self-aware of themselves and construct gender identities that can help organize the world, making it easier to navigate and less complex. The reason why society has gender is to help make it easier to classify humans. Instead of referring to humans with one term and trying to work out the differences, scientists try to separate humans based on similarities in appearance and behaviors. Scientists like to use a binomial classification system so the designation of humans into male and female based on their physical appearance (biological sex) is developed, but it is society that gives people their sense of gender identity. Society likes to place certain behaviors as male or female because it makes it easier to classify people and it gives people a sense of where they belong. Humans like having a sense of belonging and self-worth because if there other lower needs are met, they will want to feel like they are appreciated in the world. This is why many people have such strong emotional attachments to values of society that may affect their emotional and mental well-being. Some people over time may discover that they do not fit into the societal behaviors attributed to gender identity and they may feel gender dissonance which is a feeling that the behaviors a person portrays is not what society expects of them. For example, a person who was born biologically sexed female may be expected by society to present a gender identity of female, but the person may not want to be that way, that person is not conforming to societal expectations of how they should behave and they are exhibiting gender dissonance. However, if an individual feels extreme discomfort over their biological sex and also hates the societal expectations of how they should present their gender identity because they were born female, that person is experiencing gender dysphoria. Gender dysphoria often leads to depression and a sense of feeling like you are in the wrong body, but gender dissonance often leads to people exploring creative ways of self-expression. Many transgender people have gender dysphoria because their bodies do not match the gender identity they feel on the inside and they often feel extreme discomfort over their bodies. Gender dysphoria causes many transgender people to have a shaky sense of mental well-being that leads to depression and may cause them to have unhealthy ways to cope as they try to make their bodies look like the gender identity they want. Transgender people, although they transcend societal expectations of gender with their behavior, they are still limited by society. They want to express themselves as the gender identity they wish to be seen as and find a sense of who they truly are, but they are also constricted by society because people feel the need to belong and be accepted. An individual may believe in themselves, but they also need society to validate their identity so they can feel like they are part of something. People want others to accept them so they feel like there is a person who cares and it’s not only them feeling this way. We want to express our individuality, but we also want to be part of a group so people are often conflicted within themselves. It is especially hard for transgender people because they do not fit societal expectations of gender, but part of social transitioning is allowing others to see you as the opposite gender and hoping others validate you even though you are different.
In general, a transgender person is an individual who feels like their birth sex doesn’t match their gender identity. Gender dysphoria is often a feeling that results from the confusion, pain and sadness a person feels because they are struggling with their gender identity. Gender identity is more of a noun, a sense of how or who a person believes themselves to be: male, female, neither or both. Whereas gender dysphoria is more of an adjective to describe how people feel when they feel like they dislike their gender identity. Gender dissonance is also more of an adjective because it describes people who have gender expressions/ behaviors that are different from societal expectations. The difference between gender dissonance and gender dysphoria is that people who have gender dissonance are comfortable with their bodies, but enjoy expressing gender behaviors different from societal expectations whereas in gender dysphoria, a person feels extreme insecurities about their body and may want to change it because it doesn’t represent their gender identity. Transgender people who seek to change their bodies often experience a more positive mental well-being after medical transitioning. Since most transgender people experience intense gender dysphoria, many find it important to undergo surgery to help them feel like they are truly living. Although, not all transgender people decide to medically transition, many do. For those transgender people who don’t medically transition, they are often more comfortable with their bodies than the transgender people who want to transition. Those transgender people may be content to live their lives expressing the opposite gender without medically transitioning because they feel more of the feelings of gender dissonance. Transgender is an adjective to describe people whose gender identities differ from their birth sex and there are two types of transgender people: transgender male and transgender female. Both transgender males and females have various ranges of discomfort with their bodies, some may experience mild gender dissonance while others may experience intense gender dysphoria. A transgender male is a person who is biologically female, but has a gender identity of male while a transgender female is a person who is biologically male but has a gender identity of female.
Thank you so much Anita for helping me better understand who I am as a person. Talking with you helps me better understand myself. It’s great learning new things and hearing your advice. I think talking with you helps me better understand the framework of my thoughts and also allows me to question the perceptions I have which in turn allows me to break free from the stereotypes of society that limit me as I become more aware in my knowledge and exploration of gender identity. I think the more I delve into myself and talk things over, the more clarity I have about who I am and I realize that I am worth more than the stereotypes of society. I want to be healthy and not try to fit into a box of what society defines to be male or female. It is difficult though because I enjoy being male and I want society to accept me as male so sometimes I have to adopt the behaviors that make me appear more masculine so people will validate me as male. But I do not want to be constrained by the societal stereotypes and try to fit into them so much that I start to lose who I am as a person. Having a sense of belonging and acceptance is important, but also knowing that I shouldn’t sacrifice myself to become a person that I’m not just to fit into societal expectations of masculinity is a relief. It makes me feel like I’m developing my inner strength and although I still hear the inner critic and gender dysphoria, I feel much stronger than I have been in the past few months. I want to live and heal. I may have broken pieces, but that’s what makes life worthwhile. It’s the journey to pick up the broken pieces and work on the puzzle to become whole that allows you to find a sense of self, improve and grow as a person.
December 21, 2018 at 1:45 pm #270361AnonymousGuestDear Janus, Earth Angel:
I will need a fresh brain to read and reply to your recent thread, something I hope to have when I am back to the computer in about fifteen hours, possibly more.
Take good care of yourself, Janus.
anita
December 22, 2018 at 6:25 am #270401AnonymousGuestDear Janus, Earth Angel:
You are very welcome!
You are aware of due dates and applications, organized, excellent! Do all you can do to be accepted in Rutgers and study genetic engineering there, your plan.
Interesting that your plan is to study genetic engineering, which according to Wikipedia (my source of information) is defined as the “direct manipulation of an organism’s genes using biotechnology. It is a set of technologies used to change the genetic makeup of cells, including the transfer of genes within and across species boundaries to produce improved or novel organisms… An organism that is generated through genetic engineering is considered to be genetically modified (GM) and the resulting entity is genetically modified organism (GMO)… Gene therapy is the genetic engineering of humans, generally by replacing defective genes with effective ones”
Medical transitioning is also a “direct manipulation of an organism”, using “a set of technologies”. Even the acronym GMO can be… Gender Modified Organism.
You wrote: “people who have gender dissonance are comfortable with their bodies, but enjoy expressing gender behaviors different from societal expectations whereas in gender dysphoria, a person feels extreme insecurities about their body and may want to change it… Since most transgender people experience intense gender dysphoria, many find it important to undergo surgery… For those transgender people who don’t medically transition, they are often more comfortable with their bodies than transgender people who want to transition… Both transgender males and females have various ranges of discomfort with their bodies.. A transgender male is a person who is biologically female, but has a gender identity of male” –
-so there are transgender people with no gender dysphoria at all, and most transgenders suffer from gender dysphoria to various degrees, from mild to severe. It is the transgenders who suffer significantly from gender dysphoria, who seek to medically transition.
You wrote about your personal feelings: “Having a sense of belonging and acceptance is important, but also knowing that I shouldn’t sacrifice myself to become a person that I’m not just to fit into societal expectations of masculinity is a relief”-
Yes, it does make a lot of sense: many biologically male people suffer from body dysphoria, feeling that they don’t look masculine enough, not tall enough, shoulders not wide enough, perhaps, not muscular enough, some have extra weight that shows in the chest, as if they had breasts, some have a bit of a female curving to their bodies.
When you, Janus, over exercised so to look more muscular or get rid of any female curving by losing weight, you are like the biological males who identify themselves as males but suffer from body dysphoria related to their masculinity.
I am getting to some new understanding as I type this: you want to be a healthy male, not a male with body dysphoria!
And just like a biological male who is less muscular than another is still male, so are you a transgender male no matter how muscular you are, no matter.
I like this understanding and I see why you feel relief understanding this. You no longer have to push yourself to appear more muscular, or if you feel that push (the inner critic), you can repeat to yourself this understanding.
“I feel much stronger than I have been in the past few months. I want to live and heal. I may have broken pieces, but that’s what makes life worthwhile. It’s the journey to pick up the broken pieces and work on the puzzle”- very well said. I think this as well as many of your writings on this thread will one day be parts if a book you will author on your difficult yet amazing journey!
anita
December 24, 2018 at 9:18 am #270755AnonymousGuestM E R R Y C H R I S T M A S, J A N U S, E A R T H A N G E L ! ! !
anita
January 1, 2019 at 9:29 am #271899JanusParticipantDear Anita
Hope you had a wonderful holiday season and may the new year bring you abundance to fulfill your dreams, courage to shine your rainbow and healing love to brighten the darkness. Thank you for being here for me and for encouraging me to become a better person. I am anxiously awaiting the reviewal of my Rutgers University- School of Engineering application. Although colleges will be on winter break until January 23rd (spring semester starts), the academic admissions offices for colleges will be open tomorrow and I will likely here from Rutgers University- School of Engineering in three to five business days after January 2nd. I am disappointed that I didn’t receive the grade that I wanted in Chemistry II for Fall 2018 semester and I’m still wondering how a D on my transcript will affect my chances of getting into Rutgers. All of my other grades are good, I have 12 As, 3 B+s and Chemistry II is my only D. A D grade is passing, but it will not transfer to Rutgers and I need two semesters of Chemistry for Rutgers University- School of Engineering. I meet all the other requirements for the School of Engineering because my GPA is 3.7 and I have most of the courses required. The only requirement I don’t meet is that there should be no Ds or Fs on the transcript. I am thinking of taking Chemistry II again in the summer to boost my grade, but it’s offered in the 2nd summer five week from 6/26-8/1 and for a successful transfer to a four year university, it’s recommended that students have already completed their courses at their former college before August because enrollment begins in Fall 2019 which is the semester I’m looking to attend a four year university and the month of August is usually the time the admissions offices of colleges are planning for new student orientations for those students who will enroll in the fall so it will look strange if I’m accepted into Rutgers for Fall 2019, but I am still taking classes at Ocean County College and this may delay my enrollment because I still have courses to submit for my transcript. But I don’t want to have a D on my transcript either. I thought about taking Chemistry II in the Spring 2019 semester, but cannot fit it into my already packed schedule. I’m thinking of talking to my college advisors when winter break is over on January 23rd, but I’m anxious about things. The good thing is that I have completed my applications and FAFSA ahead of the deadline dates so it’s less work for me. I am glad that the new year has arrived. I hope to work on healing myself and also increasing my confidence. I want to improve on person-to-person conversations because I find that I tend to be anxious when I’m talking in a in-person conversation with a small group of people. With a small group of people, I feel self-conscious because each person has a good view of the person speaking and there’s a lot of interaction. Strangely, I find that I am better at public speaking with larger groups because then I feel like there isn’t so much scrutiny on me by people because the crowd can cover some of the views of the other people. Although I like having one-on-one discussions with teachers to help me develop a deeper understanding of the material and have a clearer focus, it also makes me self-conscious because all of the attention is on me. In a classroom of students where the teacher can address more students at a time, I feel less self-conscious even though I do learn better through one-person teaching so I often feel conflicted about myself. I think that my self-consciousness comes from me feeling insecure about my appearance. I’m always wondering if the person talking to me thinks I’m stupid or if they see me as the gender I want to be seen as. Sometimes I feel quite introverted because I’m not sure if I know what to say in a situation. People think I’m reserved in person, while I express myself better through writing. I also think that my self-consciousness stems from not being heard at times when I speak my words to others like my parents and it’s a fear of being misunderstood, not believed or ridiculed. Do you have any advice? Thank you so much Anita for your encouragement and I wish you all the best in your life’s endeavors.
- This reply was modified 5 years, 10 months ago by Janus.
January 1, 2019 at 9:50 am #271905AnonymousGuestDear Janus, Earth Angel:
I hope Rutgers, a person processing your application there is aware that sometimes a teacher is just the wrong teacher for a particular student, which may explain that single D. There is such a thing as a teacher and a student being terribly incompatible.
I sure hope to hear good news from you in the first half of January, looking forward to such good news!
Happy New Year to you! Thank you for your good wishes for me, and best wishes to you as well.
Post anytime if it eases your anxiety as you wait.
anita
January 9, 2019 at 8:52 am #273411JanusParticipantDear Anita
I talked with my college advisors Monday and they were very helpful in helping me plan my Spring semester classes so they would fit the transfer requirements. I also discovered that I have most of the requirements for Rutgers University- School of Engineering with my two Calculus classes, two biology classes, one Chemistry class (they told me only one was required for the program which is good because I thought I had to have two) and a physics class which I will take in the Spring semester. So most of my classes work for transferring and I managed to work Chemistry II into my Spring schedule so I can retake it for a better grade. I have sent in my current transcripts for Ocean County College to Rutgers University because I need to send them in so my application will be reviewed. I know that I listed as an additional note on my application that I will be retaking Chemistry II and graduating Spring semester so my transcripts aren’t complete so I want to appeal to the admissions department if the D that I received in Chemistry II in my Fall semester deters my application. I hope for the best and that if my application is deferred because of the D in Fall semester, I can appeal successfully by retaking the course in the Spring semester and submitting my full transcripts for admissions department to consider and hopefully I get admitted that way. My college advisors say that appeals take time and are quite intensive, but it is also a good way to allow the admissions department to know you better. Also it is often better that I get in without having to appeal because appeals can come with conditions. So since I just sent in my undergraduate transcripts for Ocean County College to Rutgers University, I’m still awaiting their reviewal of my application and the transcript. If I’m admitted, I will have to submit my completed transcript, but if my application is deferred because of the D in the Fall semester I have to appeal. Hoping for the best because all my other grades are good, my essay is good and I meet most of the class requirements. The one D does complicate things a bit with my application, but I’m hoping that it will be okay. Thank you for your encouragement and I’m glad to have you in my life. You’re an amazing person who always inspires me to be more positive and gives me courage to shine bright in darkness. May the new year bring you abundance and happiness.
January 9, 2019 at 12:33 pm #273477AnonymousGuestDear Janus, Earth Angel:
Good to read from you!
Reads like you are definitely on top of things, of all the details, the possibilities and options. I can’t imagine Rutgers making the mistake, if the people reviewing your applications are reasonable, rejecting such a promising, hard working, conscientious, shining candidate to attend their institution.
Thank you for your good wished for me and your kinds words are pleasant to read. I am looking forward to news from you, hoping for good news!
anita
January 16, 2019 at 9:54 am #274945JanusParticipantDear Anita
My Rutgers application is being reviewed currently. I had to email Rutgers Admissions department to tell them that the site (National Student Clearinghouse)I used to deliver my Ocean County College transcripts to Rutgers sent my transcript to Rutgers University- Undergraduate Admissions rather than email to Rutgers transcript department. I am grateful that they were able to get my Ocean County College transcript and now the status of my application says “In process” which means they likely have what’s needed to review the application. My last semester at Ocean County College starts in a week (January 23rd). I have a pretty packed schedule and am a bit nervous about the physics class I will take. I have been reviewing some physics concepts over winter break which has helped me. I also have developed a meditation and yoga routine which helps me feel balanced and focused. I find that meditation reduces my anxiety and helps me have a sense of my inner emotions. Also yoga helps with my flexibility and I find it quite enjoyable. Both meditation and yoga help relieve tension and I’m hoping that the routine that I build during winter break will carry on to help me reduce stress when classes start. I also have been doing lots of cleaning and reducing clutter in my room. I write my items on a list and I go through the list crossing things out that I don’t need and then throwing them out. I feel quite productive these days. Also I have been taking time for myself and working on letting go of people who don’t benefit me. It is a great feeling like releasing a burden by cutting the cords that tie you down to someone or something that doesn’t benefit you. I imagine the person or thing that has been taking too much of my life and I imagine me holding a scissor and cutting the cord that ties me to them. I allow myself to experience the hurt they caused and I tell myself that I am okay. I am not what others define me as, I am who I create myself to be. Then I imagine all the hurts on sheets of paper and I light a match and burn them and I think “Out of the ashes of the hurt, I arise into a better stronger person. I forgive myself and set myself free from the hurt. I am healing.” I know that it’s not easy to let go of others’ criticism and that I may slip at times, but I’ll be okay. Some days if I just have to hold things together or it’s hard to let go of something you’ve held for so long, it doesn’t mean that you have failed or are a bad person. It means that you were protecting yourself by building the layers to cope with the world. People build layers to protect themselves from the world, but their core self is still beneath the surface. Like an onion that has to protect the delicate skin underneath, people put layers on to protect themselves and sometimes when we start to remove the layers, we cry and that’s okay. I am thanking the layers of myself that I built to protect me. Even though not all of them were healthy, I tell them “I understand why you tried to help. I forgive you and I set myself free. The time has come to let go.” I am doing this with the anorexic layer I built to make myself look more masculine. I tell the layer ” I’m understand that you had to be here to help me understand that I’m more than the stereotypes of society. I understand why you (anorexia) started as a way to find a sense of self. I accept the lessons that I have taught me and I let you go. Thank you for teaching me about myself. I am healing now and you can go. I let you go because I want to be healthy. I know that it’s hard and that you still want to be a layer to protect me from society expectations, but sometimes losing layers helps you build yourself up. I am a garden, not perfect, growing weeds and flowers and sometimes the weeds I uproot leave holes and the layers protect me from myself but with the layers I can’t grow flowers in the spaces. So I release you, anorexia and in the space where there is a void is not loss of protection, but a place for me to nurture myself, grow flowers, cultivate the garden of my mind and heal.” I don’t see a perfect person, I see a flawed person worth loving and sometimes people have to break through the walls of layers so the light can shine in. People have broken pieces and holes that seem dark, but it is in those cracks or holes that light can come in. I am working on removing the layers, working through my emotions and discovering the light through the cracks in me and I am healing and mending the pieces into a better person. Sometimes people have to break to build themselves into the picture of who they really are. By picking up the pieces and seeing the reflection, people start to realize that life is a puzzle and although putting the pieces together may be difficult, the journey is worthwhile. Like glowsticks, people may break before they shine and broken pieces allow you to delve deeper into yourself and understand who you are and build yourself into a better person. People may put layers on themselves and they may break, but it is in those broken pieces that they see the reflection of a flawed self that is worth loving. The flaws that you have make you a unique person and can help you create the maps of your life so you can decide what road to travel on. I am no longer the person who tries to fit into societal expectations while I lose myself because I realize that the person I am is worth more than the stereotypes. I tried to put layers on and fit myself into a role but I didn’t truly fit so I became callused and bruised. The layers may protect, but they can also constrict me of painting my diversity on the canvas. I am not a blank canvas, but a person who has layers of many colors working on finding my true self. Some of the colors resonate with me while others make me question the art I put out to the world. I am an artist, working on removing the layers of expectations, discovering my true colors and creating the person I want to be on the canvas.
January 16, 2019 at 10:51 am #274963AnonymousGuestDear Janus, Earth Angel:
I imagine the relief you felt reading the words “in process” regarding your application.
You have been doing all the right things to minimize your stress:
1. Cleaning your room and reducing the clutter in it.
2. Making lists and crossing items on the list.
3. Developing a yoga and meditation routine.
4. Reviewing physics concepts (to help with your stress over the physics class you are about to start).
5. Letting go of people and activities that don’t benefit you: “cutting the cords that tie you down to someone or something that doesn’t benefit you”.
6. Allowing yourself to experience hurt (not fighting it or pushing it down).
7. Practicing positive/ encouraging self talk: “I tell myself that I am okay…”
8. Using your fascinating imagination to empower your self talk: “I imagine me holding a scissor and cutting the chord that ties me…I imagine all the hurts on sheets of paper and I light a match and burn them..”, as well as developing the onion imagery.
“I am an artist” you wrote, and I agree.
Here is a sentence you wrote that I like so very much: “the person I am is worth more than the stereotypes”, I like this assertion so much because I know for how very long you struggled with this very issue: stereotypes! Yes, you are by far worthier than any one stereotype and all put together!
anita
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