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June 24, 2024 at 7:30 pm #434184anitaParticipant
Dear SadSoul: was out and back, will reply Tues am, Mon evening here.
anita
June 24, 2024 at 7:55 pm #434185anitaParticipantDear SadSoul:
I am not focused enough to read and reply, and I will do it in the morning, but for now, this evening: I happened to sit with a few belly dancers (yes), of 30+year old, all the way to 60+ year old with grey hair, so, the idea is unorthodox: 60+ year od exposing belly. Now, I don’t know if I have the stomach to witness it, and I definitely wouldn’t expose mine for less than .. 100,00 dollars, and I am being conservative. The performance is scheduled for a month from now. I never witnessed a belly dancing performance in real life (seen it in Egyptian movies back in the 70s and not since).
I am conflicted on the matter. The lovely woman who is organizing it says that belly dancing was originally designed by women to facilitate child birth, strengthening the muscles involved. She incorporates bely dancing from different cultures and I committed to help and facilitate the performance a month from now. In my modest naivete, I asked her if the performance will be done indoors, in dim lights (yes, I asked that) and she said it will be done outdoors in the sun, on the stage. So.. 60+ year-old bellies shaking IN FULL SUNLIGHT?
I feel someplace between uncomfortable and bamboozled.
anita
June 24, 2024 at 8:13 pm #434186anitaParticipantcorrection: 100,000 dollars, and that’s a very conservative estimate for exposing and shaking my old belly in broad daylight, more like a million dollars. Of course, I would do it for free if it was to save the world (but how could my belly save the world???).. A month from now is when the performance is to take place and I will be a behind the scenes part of it. I am Belly-Bamboozled (BB).
June 25, 2024 at 1:54 am #434190SadSoulParticipantYou’re funny. The more wobbly a belly is the more it is prized in belly dancing. Imperfect bellies are really the perfect ones because they have stories to tell.
I got some beautiful news today. So very lovely.
And I’m sick as a dog š
Are you going to be belly dancing or organising? I’m still laughing at you – hopefully with you coz I hope you are laughing too. I’m not all that keen on exposing the world to my wibbly bits š š no matter how good the stories they tell are š but for world peace and light in with ya.
My head hurts so much š¢
June 25, 2024 at 1:55 am #434191SadSoulParticipantMy sore brain didn’t compute that you’re a behind the scenes part of this production. Go you š»
June 25, 2024 at 10:01 am #434216anitaParticipantDear SadSoul:
“Do you have lots of bugs where you are? “- yes.
“Iāve heard peppermint and clove and lavender and tea tree oil help with itching“- I have a lavender bar, I’ll use it, thank you.
“Your shoulder has been playing up for a long while now. Since the play date with the cool lawnmower?”– yes.
“I always go with it sucks getting old“- I feel younger now than when I was a teenager, I am not kidding: younger than when I was a kid!
“PS thank you for giving me human contact. Iāve been feeling alone lately… but if I could have a gift wrapped friendship this one covers it. Understanding, kindness, a few laughs, not demanding; itās got everything I need and seems to be doing well with the limited amount of watering I can give it“- you are talking about our friendship (I think you are, just wanting to make sure)..?
“Imperfect bellies are really the perfect ones because they have stories to tell“- this is the wittiest thing I ever read on the topic of bellies. I want to pass this belly-witty saying to the belly dancer leader later, and tell you about her response.
“I got some beautiful news today. So very lovelyĀ Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā “- evidence that SadSoul does not overshare!
“My head hurts so much… My sore brain“- how are you toda/ this evening???
anita
June 25, 2024 at 5:10 pm #434223SadSoulParticipantI always go with it sucks getting oldā- I feel younger now than when I was a teenager, I am not kidding: younger than when I was a kid!
I do too, although not today, today I just feel sick. It’s quite terrifying feeling so young and then seeing the old woman in the mirror šĀ
PS thank you for giving me human contact. Iāve been feeling alone latelyā¦ but if I could have a gift wrapped friendship this one covers it. Understanding, kindness, a few laughs, not demanding; itās got everything I need and seems to be doing well with the limited amount of watering I can give itā- you are talking about our friendship (I think you are, just wanting to make sure)..?
Absolutely this friendship. I look forward to our typo-sations – my version of our conversation – as I probably mentioned before (never not even once joke laugh joke) I have very limited friendships. I’m afraid I attract to me things that cause me to get hurt. It’s not even the other person’s fault because I always read them, gave them what they needed, all so I didn’t get rejected and could be as important to them as they were to me. I don’t know how to have boundaries and I don’t ask for them, or anything much, because it hurts too much to be rejected or told no. I can somewhat follow why I end up in painful friendships, because I nurture a part of them that I don’t want, out of fear of being left – and ironically the moment I tried to say I matter I got left. That’s all very confusing, sorry. I see in you standards that are good and firm, you are who you are regardless of who I am. I think you’d call me out if you saw me dodging a confrontation with you, you’d point out that I can say no or disagree. You’d tell me you can help move the cupboard before I asked and you’d tell me I can ask. You’d tell me that if the answer was no it was just no for that day, because you couldn’t be there, but that it is yes for another day.Ā
āImperfect bellies are really the perfect ones because they have stories to tellā- this is the wittiest thing I ever read on the topic of bellies. I want to pass this belly-witty saying to the belly dancer leader later, and tell you about her response.
I had written out another reply but my lovely news arrived and distracted me. It was about how beautiful people are, young, middle aged, and old. How I was so lucky to meet two very old girls who gave me and my offspring a small part of the love they had for their children, who were the most magnificent creatures. One with the most incredible thick straight steel grey hair, whose eyes crinkled up when she laughed, whose cheeks were flushed and her heart heavy that night I happened to be going past and saw her light on. She’d lost her husband and she was drowning her sorrow with whisky. He was a beautiful man. She loved me and my offspring. They spent some school holidays with her, growing snowpeas, watching movies, and making meatballs. The other lovely girl, with pure white curls, bright lipstick and colourful dresses, probably not able to answer her phone because she was out having fun. Her motto was YODO. You only die once. Not YOLO: you only live once. So she made sure she lived as much as was possible. Her vibrant energy, no matter how much she suffered, how she adored my offspring and saw what special and amazing beings they were. Who took one under her wing and also spent days during school holidays living their shared interest together, such love they shared.Ā
I wrote a far better script explaining these beautiful old girls, beautiful within and without. How sad I feel that our modern generation has turned ageing into something it thinks of as unattractive and undesirable. I can see how beautiful these older people are, but it’s hard to apply the same feelings to myself.Ā
Oh how I miss those girls. If only I hadn’t been so short on time – working 48 hour weeks. If only I hadn’t been so afraid of visiting too much. So many ifs. But instead I will try to carry with me how blessed I was to have had them. If only people could live forever – or at least till I cark it šĀ
I got some beautiful news today. So very lovely ā- evidence that SadSoul does not overshare!
Were you prepared for my above overshare? šĀ
My head hurts so muchā¦ My sore brainā- how are you toda/ this evening??? anita
I’m sick wah. I’m sure I’ll be fine in a day or so. I hate being sick. I wonder if I can find other words to express how awful being sick is for me, it’s probably nearly as bad as the deadly manflu. Jokes š
June 25, 2024 at 5:12 pm #434224anitaParticipantHow exciting, only ONE MINUTE ago, SadSoul- in another part of the world- typed in a post for me. Will read and reply next.
anita
June 25, 2024 at 5:40 pm #434226SadSoulParticipantA very long read. Please don’t fall asleep š
June 25, 2024 at 6:14 pm #434229anitaParticipantDear SadSoul:
“Itās quite terrifying feeling so young and then seeing the old woman in the mirror“- who-who-who is looking in the mirror? I don’t.Ā I look young same way my stove-top looks clean: I turn off the light above it, so I can’t see it. There is more to it though: so, I am slender and I wear those teenage-jeans with holes (not the big kinds), I look down at my legs and I assure you: my legs in-jeans look like 17-year-old legs (true!) and that thrills me. After a whole day of NOT looking in the mirror, and some wine (I know you don’t drink since you stopped smoking, and I am not recommending it, it’s just my thing), I FEEL young and in my mind, I look as I feel.
When I was a teenager and in my 20s- I felt old.
“Absolutely this friendship. I look forward to our typo-sations ā my version of our conversation… gave them what they needed… it hurts too much to be rejected or told no…Ā I see in you standards that are good and firm, you are who you are regardless of who I am… Youād tell me you can help move the cupboard before I asked and youād tell me I can ask. Youād tell me that if the answer was no it was just no for that day, because you couldnāt be there, but that it is yes for another day“-
– this is the Soul in Sad Soul. No, I couldn’t, wouldn’t betray what you tell me/ show me here.Ā I won’t reject you, I won’t punish you for asserting yourself. Instead, I will congratulate you for it. I will help you move the cupboards (in a few days, when my right shoulder heals, I hope). And yes, a no will be just for that day.
Sometimes I am inattentive though, make mistakes, but eager to correct them.
“I had written out another reply… about how beautiful people are, young, middle aged, and old… The other lovely girl, with pure white curls…Ā Her motto was YODO. You only die once. Not YOLO: you only live once“– I was dead most of my life (youth wasted). Now, I am alive, what a delight to be alive.
“these beautiful old girls, beautiful within and without. How sad I feel that our modern generation has turned ageing into something it thinks of as unattractive and undesirable“– this has been my worry, having seen the two 60-year-old scheduled to belly-dance in a month from now. By the way, they- four dancers altogether- are practicing their dance right now on the outdoor stage that I cleaned from heavy-duty bird poop two hours ago. I am not there to see it because I wanted a shower and dinner. But part of me wants to see it.. right now!
“If only people could live forever ā or at least till I cark it“– had to google “cark it”- it means (a slang in the UK, Australia, New Zealand): to die. Which reminds me: the other day I came across a British-accent speaking woman who said that over the years of being in the U.S., she toned down her British accent and all the British wordings that U.S. people don’t understand. I told her about your words, like “brekkie” and an immediately look of understanding registered on her face: breakfast, of course.
“Iām sick wah. Iām sure Iāll be fine in a day or so. I hate being sick. I wonder if I can find other words to express how awful being sick is for me, itās probably nearly as bad as the deadly manflu. Jokes“- had to google “man flu” (I am missing British and American wordings!). I am looking forward to a day or two when you are feeling way, way better!
anita
June 25, 2024 at 6:44 pm #434231SadSoulParticipantDear Anita
who-who-who is looking in the mirror? I donāt.Ā I look young same way my stove-top looks clean: I turn off the light above it, so I canāt see it.
I love it!Ā Unfortunately the mirrored doors into shopping centres donāt have lights to turn down hahahaha.
There is more to it though: so, I am slender and I wear those teenage-jeans with holes (not the big kinds), I look down at my legs and I assure you: my legs in-jeans look like 17-year-old legs (true!) and that thrills me. After a whole day of NOT looking in the mirror, and some wine (I know you donāt drink since you stopped smoking, and I am not recommending it, itās just my thing), I FEEL young and in my mind, I look as I feel.
When I was a teenager and in my 20s- I felt old.
I am not so slender.Ā The last couple of years I started looking my age.Ā When I was 45 I used to get asked for identification to enter a pub or buy alcohol or cigarettes.Ā When I was 45 a bomb got dropped on my heart and it got totally broken, not just the broken Iād carried throughout life, but totally destroyed.Ā I think the rest of me has slowly broken in sympathy.Ā Luckily there is sunshine peaking itās lovely warm self into my life again š
ā this is the Soul in Sad Soul. No, I couldnāt, wouldnāt betray what you tell me/ show me here.Ā I wonāt reject you, I wonāt punish you for asserting yourself. Instead, I will congratulate you for it. I will help you move the cupboards (in a few days, when my right shoulder heals, I hope). And yes, a no will be just for that day.
I am having just a tiny little cry at how beautiful you are, how kind you are to me, how fortunate I am to have found an online friend like you <3
Sometimes I am inattentive though, make mistakes, but eager to correct them.
Arenāt we all and donāt we all.Ā Me too.
I was dead most of my life (youth wasted). Now, I am alive, what a delight to be alive.
This is a song to my ears.
this has been my worry, having seen the two 60-year-old scheduled to belly-dance in a month from now.
Their bellies, whatever shape theyāre in, may have held human life in them for nine months, may have not.Ā May have felt the love for sad and happy things that their loved ones felt.Ā May have enjoyed delicious meals with good friends, families, and lovers.Ā May have felt the hunger that not being able to eat gives you when your heart is breaking or your wallet is busy making sure others donāt suffer.Ā Whatever, they are beautiful bellies, just if we could only hear the stories of how they found their way to being a part of those amazing 60 year olds who are able to share them with the world.Ā If only more people could proudly share their bodies that have enjoyed the budding of youth, the blossoming of middle age, the slowing down of the beginning of the second childhood!Ā Maybe we wouldnāt be so anxious about it if we were used to seeing age as beauty, not age that is not valuable and should be hidden away, age that is no longer acknowledged.Ā I noticed a couple of years ago that people donāt look at me anymore when I go shopping.Ā I read somewhere that a lot of ageing people notice that too.
By the way, they- four dancers altogether- are practicing their danceĀ right nowĀ on the outdoor stageĀ that I cleaned from heavy-duty bird poopĀ two hours ago. I am not there to see it because I wanted a shower and dinner. But part of me wants to see it.. right now!
Youāre so good cleaning the stage.Ā I bet these girls are magnificent.
āIf only people could live forever ā or at least till I cark itāā had to google ācark itā- it means (a slang in the UK, Australia, New Zealand): to die. Which reminds me: the other day I came across a British-accent speaking woman who said that over the years of being in the U.S., she toned down her British accent and all the British wordings that U.S. people donāt understand. I told her aboutĀ your words, like ābrekkieā and an immediately look of understanding registered on her face: breakfast, of course.
I donāt use the words I used to use all the time because people in this country donāt understand ā I didnāt originate from here.Ā I love all the funny sayings different countries have.Ā Haha, google skidlid.Ā Iāll keep you going with unusual terms for things if you like.
had to google āman fluā (I am missing British and American wordings!). I am looking forward to a day or two when you are feeling way, way better!
You are definitely missing out on slangs!Ā I, on the other hand, have a bad dose of manflu!Ā My employer is dropping COVID tests off later on.Ā The world is still so afraid of COVID.Ā Being sick with it is an acceptable sickness, but the good old manflu doesnāt count.Ā Jeezā¦
June 25, 2024 at 7:27 pm #434234anitaParticipantDear SadSoul:
“I love it!Ā Unfortunately the mirrored doors into shopping centres donāt have lights to turn down hahahaha“- I got that covered: I don’t go to shopping centers (centres, in your language, haha ha)
“I am not so slender.Ā The last couple of years I started looking my age.Ā When I was 45, I used to get asked for identification to enter a pub or buy alcohol or cigarettes“- must.. (just now a spider-looking creature walked across the computer screen as I am sitting in bed.. am I being bitten in bed?? Where the hell is this spider, for crying out loud.. IN BED?) you must have been a very young-looking 45-year-old.
“When I was 45, a bomb got dropped on my heart, and it got totally broken…Ā Luckily there is sunshine peaking itās lovely warm self into my life again“- the heart broke, but alive, good thing.
“I am having just a tiny little cry at how beautiful you are, how kind you are to me, how fortunate I am to have found an online friend like you“- I have a tear in my eye, and a smile, and my heart touching yours.
“Arenāt we all and donāt we all.Ā Me too“- two of a kind, millions of a kind: should be more forgiving of our mistakes and the mistakes of others’.
“Their bellies, whatever shape theyāre in, may have held human life in them for nine months, may have not… If only more people could proudly share their bodies that have enjoyed the budding of youth, the blossoming of middle age… if we were used to seeing age as beauty“- beautifully said by a beautiful soul!
“Youāre so good cleaning the stage.Ā I bet these girls are magnificent“- I am opening up to the notion of old-age magnificence.
Really? Wait, I’ll take it inĀ a bit at a time.
“I didnāt originate from here“- we both didn’t originate from where we are now, hmm…
“The world is still so afraid of COVID.Ā Being sick with it is an acceptable sickness, but the good old manflu doesnāt count.Ā Jeezā¦“-Ā the Covid-end-of-the-world scenario seems to be over in this part of the world (here), it’s like it was a movie/ a dream that’s forgotten now.
anita
June 25, 2024 at 7:52 pm #434235SadSoulParticipantThe really scared people on my life are still a bit scared of covid. The only thing I’d like is a few months of lock down again. I got to enjoy the first couple when it first started. Alas, my workplaces found ways around getting us in, so I don’t suppose I’d get to put my feet up. Oh well. Feet up today.
My ex used to get angry when we went into pubs because I always got asked for ID. I felt a bit uncomfortable but these days I wouldn’t mind š
He broke me. His leaving was a God send. But the actual of him in my life broke me. Then in the aftermath things got worse. Hmmm. There I go, going non overshare. Things were let out in the open… My beloved ones had been dreadfully hurt. And I’ll always be responsible because I didn’t know, didn’t see it, had no idea. Trusted him. Was so overwhelmed by his loudness, his self proclaiming, his greatness. But he is gone, slowly things are healing, maybe one day all my beloved ones will be sitting around my table enjoying a roast dinner the way we used to!
two of a kind, millions of a kind: should be more forgiving of our mistakes and the mistakes of othersā.
I love this.
Did you find your spider? Horrifying! I don’t mind them outside but not so keen on them in.
I’m watching a junk love thing on Netflix. So not my usual thing but I’ve run out of walking dead to watch š š š
June 25, 2024 at 8:10 pm #434237anitaParticipantDear SadSoul:
“Did you find your spider? Horrifying! I donāt mind them outside but not so keen on them in”– it was/ is in my bed. I suspected for a while that I was bitten in bed! But what can I do? It’s a small spider-looking creature in a big bed, it’d take a long, long time to look for it, change the bed sheets.. for crying out loud, I’m too tired to do all that, it’s night time!
It’s getting dark, so that’s my usual MO: ignore it (where is that F-n Spider though??)
I put the lavender bar thing in the microwave and rubbed all the bites with it..
“The really scared people on my life are still a bit scared of covid. The only thing Iād like is a few months of lock down again“- there were benefits to the lockdown, definitely.
“My ex used to get angry when we went into pubs because I always got asked for ID”–Ā because he didn’t look that young?
“He broke me… There I go, going non overshare…Ā My beloved ones had been dreadfully hurt. And Iāll always be responsible because I didnāt know, didnāt see it, had no idea. Trusted him“- too painful still to share. That’s okay that you share as much or as little as you do.
You didn’t know, you didn’t see it, you had no idea. For-give your self. Forgive Sad Soul. It’s okay to forgive her. She is a good person worthy of forgiveness.
“So not my usual thing but Iāve run out of walking dead to watch“- you watched the waking dead? It’s been years since I had a TV service, the walking-dead.. I have some memory of it.
anita
June 25, 2024 at 8:32 pm #434239SadSoulParticipantit was/ is in my bed. I suspected for a while that I was bitten in bed! But what can I do? Itās a small spider-looking creature in a big bed, itād take a long, long time to look for it, change the bed sheets.. for crying out loud, Iām too tired to do all that, itās night time! Itās getting dark, so thatās my usual MO: ignore it (where is that F-n Spider though??) I put the lavender bar thing in the microwave and rubbed all the bites with it.
You’re funny as. I had a cockroach in my bed once.. Oh the horror.
Not sure what a lavender bar is. I hope it’s not soap and I hope it somehow has some real lavender in it!
āMy ex used to get angry when we went into pubs because I always got asked for IDāā because he didnāt look that young?
I don’t know. I never thought about it. That would be hilarious if it was. He thought he looked really young but he looked really old, a lifetime of heavy smoking, etc. He used to tell me how young people thought he looked šĀ
ātoo painful still to share.
And my responsibility because I didn’t see.
You didnāt know, you didnāt see it, you had no idea. For-give your self. Forgive Sad Soul. Itās okay to forgive her. She is a good person worthy of forgiveness.
I don’t know if I can ever forgive myself but I’ve come far enough that I don’t ask God to take me to heaven on my sleep anymore.Ā
you watched the waking dead? Itās been years since I had a TV service, the walking-dead.. I have some memory of it.Ā
Another thing we have in common! But I have paid Netflix instead. And a TV that’s on its last legs. I have watched way too much in the last almost year.
We’ve had such a lovely catch up! How blessed to be awake at the same time. The internet makes the world seem small and do-able!
I met one of my little old lady friends, who’s gone now, and one of the progeny told her how great the bread is baked was. She said her husband loved fresh baked bread so I took one to them to surprise them. He was so happy. We sat at their table and he cut us each a slice then ate the rest himself. She gave little laughing glances to me. That’s where that friendship started. He was in the early stages of dementia but not so much that he’d lost his memories, just losing his nows. Oh how I miss them. Oh how I miss her. This show I’m watching kind of reminds me of them. Happy uncomplicated love.
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