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July 2, 2019 at 2:08 pm #301853
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GuestDear Cali Chica:
I thought it had to do with this woman and it did. Excellent job! I loved reading this: “You don’t get to have fun easy small talk with me, and then also treat me like crap and disrespect me at the drop of a hat”!
I like the assertion, the affecting of some consequence to her behavior or more accurately, misbehavior. She gets some rejection in return to her disrespect.
“I have never been able to accomplish so much silence in my life”- well you did today, July 2, 2019.
A delight to read your experiment of today!
anita
July 6, 2019 at 7:43 am #302155Cali Chica
ParticipantDear Anita,
thank you for that compliment. I did accomplish something great that day – as a first time experiment.
Yesterday not so much. I had a huge setback. In short it had to do with my husbandâs friend and his wife coming over. I wonât get into all the background but – thesis is that he is a nice person at baseline but has married a horrific woman. Controlling, strange, passive aggressive and most importantly- bad energy.
This energy made me act strange and so later on my husband (having background built up resentment towards me which you know about and beyond) started feeling irritated at me for my behavior.
I quickly concluded that all of the problems had to do with having the exact opposite people in our home than we needed. He realized he made a mistake in inviting them, but I had made plenty such âmistakesâ of not focusing on right priority. He is right. I was angered by the fact that he was annoyed at my behavior when in reality i know my limits. I am a healing human and I donât want to be put up to challenges of being around terrible people. Perhaps like my (dramatic) cancer analogy – I need to heal and protect myself from any toxins.
Anyway – it become a huge ordeal after they left. The holiday was not relaxing at all and itâs the last thing we needed. It sent me into a huge fury. I found myself angry at so many things and people. At that girl N the glitter friend who continues to send emails and texts âmaking sure Iâm okay.â When I clearly deleted her out of my life because she is a huge flake and i had given her one last chance months ago when she flaked.
This friend D who I actually introduced to N – those two are fast friends now. D didnât have the decency to even give us a wedding present after being a huge part of all of our events and being catered to as close friends (itâs not about the money or present itâs the respect courtesy etc). Iâve helped her endlessly with her relationship and subsequent breakup and when I moved back to nyc it was a few blocks away from her- no effort to ever visit.
All the same I felt. Enraged. How dare she not even give us a gift. Out of 450 gifts the only person. How disgusting I felt. I felt enraged like I used to last year or before I went no contact with parents
the annoyance between my husband and I subsided because we once again realized and re minded ourselves that we canât let other people get in the way of what we need the most – quality time together to heal and focus on the main goal – our team. We also talked a lot about the progress I made over the last week with you
I felt angry as I felt I had undone so much of it, it felt like a huge huge step back. From just last weekend!
i felt angry and angry and before I went to sleep I sent an angry email. I had not seen D for months or spoken to her – her now ex boyfriend is actually my husbandâs Med school friend – thatâs how I know her  – they met around the same time my husband and I did.
they broke up a few months ago – both of them being quite flakey- neither of them keeping in touch with us  – during our wedding we had given them a lot of respect being in our bridal party – we had a huge wedding party and provided them all gifts and clothes from India and made it so they felt like they had a wonderful experience , which they all did.  Of course this was my decision and I wasnât forced into it. But it made me so angry last night to exert this sort of courtesy and respect to people who – see – didnât deserve it at all! Stupid people who donât have the decency to remain in touch or even bring a gift or card (once again not about money but about being a decent human)
once again a reminder of the idiocy of focusing on these others!
so I sent an email to D. It was passive aggressive – it was something like this-
hey D! Long time no talk – hope youâre having a great summer . I was finalizing my wedding spreadsheets and saw your present was missing. It was the only one in the entirety of all the guests – I surely hope it didn’t go missing.
Well I actually was going to send you a Venmo (like PayPal) request for some of the bridesmaids related expenses. So you can go ahead and accept that – and not worry about it!
Pretty much my email was – hey cheap shameless fake friend, i know you made excuses for a year about how you forgot to bring a present to our 4 day wedding where you were treated like family. Well enough  I’m calling you out – nope that treatment wasn’t for free and those items from India selected for you weren’t. Time to pay up.
(No in reality I would never make a friend pay for any of that – it was a gift from me and no one was asked for a dime, this was anger and me feeling she didn’t deserve this! She better pay up fake stupid girl!)
I’ll write more after your reply. Sigh.
July 6, 2019 at 8:09 am #302163Cali Chica
ParticipantDear Anita,
I’ll write more here due to the time difference. But please read my first post and reply to that before you read the following (If that’s ok)
So of course I do this. I don’t feel too terrible. I feel kinda silly and Petty but also at the same time – not sure. Probably best to do and say nothing like I already had. But perhaps the whirlwind of fourth of July around horrible people reminded me once again – screw these people who continue to take and take and take and take ROARRR.
So of course it backfired major. She didn’t reply to my email but quickly must have reached out to her ex BF (my husband’s friend but he’s quite flakey). He hasn’t texted my husband in months and so (I know this now not yesterday) he calls my husband yday around 8 pm out of nowhere. Missed call. Then a huge paragraph text along the lines of – oh I saw her email to D. You know we had a plan to take the two of you out to dinner as a present I hope you know that. Her email was kinda out of nowhere we were confused. Etc.
Pretty much saying – why the hell would Cali chica send that.
My husband doesn’t tell me any of this last night since we finally were able to relax after all the people left and get back to good conversation about self focus. I had not told him I had sent that email to D (thinking it was between her and I, no idea she would go tattle to her EX)
Anyway so of course ONCE AGAIN. I cause harm. Now my husband is stressed from getting this sort of message and he feels embarrassed. Why would I send such a petty email literally asking for money he says. It’s one thing to ask but another to actually send a request.
I agree. I say I didn’t think asking would do anything to a huge flake. He says – well we already know this about them. So let it be. Let it go. What did sending that do to you. Did it accomplish anything? Did it make you feel better? We already went through all this drama with those people coming over and that was my mistake – but this! Why do this?
He’s right. Anita I had a huge setback and I feel like wow – what is wrong with me!!!! I don’t war sympathy from you though. I am sharing like I always do. Just the truth as always
July 6, 2019 at 8:37 am #302167Anonymous
GuestDear Cali Chica:
I am not surprised you are angry, of course you are. Don’t judge yourself for being angry, don’t think of yourself as a bad person, or a person not on the healing path for feeling this anger. It will be a good exercise for you to express it now, past and present, anything that comes to mind, just type away, a stream of consciousness, don’t edit, don’t evaluate. If you can, do it now.
anita
July 6, 2019 at 9:22 am #302171Cali Chica
ParticipantDear Anita,
thank you. Did you read my previous 2 posts regarding anger and the email I wrote? I think you did. Hereâs more.
Dear Anita,
In an effort to find some clarity and not feel so frenzied, I re read all of our posts on this new thread. In this new thread in which I have done “groundbreaking work.”
I re-read about the squirrel. I am now down on the ground again. Frenzied picking up acorns. Throwing them, picking them up again, throwing them. Not even tasting them – creating a mess. Frenzied search for something for acorns and then finding them and running off in another direction. Exhausted but wound up at the same time. Silly frenzied squirrel.
So I think about that view from above. I have experienced it. Just a glimpse recently. I am trying to channel it.
This is what comes to mind if I try to do so:
So what you sent a Hasty email, perhaps out of character and embarrassing. But so what. It’s not people in your inner circle that you respect anymore – that’s just it. You are so so so angry at yourself for not being center stage of your own life and putting people like this (D and her ex) in YOUR center stage. Â You and your husband both but especially you. This email was a way to say HEY! You don’t get to get away with that! You must be punished for taking energy and some priority in my.life and rushing away without appreciation or respect.
But that’s not how the world.works. It’s us fools who give too much credit to those types that are only to blame.
Sending a silly foolish petty humiliating email is useless. It’s a childish “acting out.” I feel like I am at square one again. Â I am trying
i see all my friends faces on balloons  old friends and new  good and bad  I see myself throwing darts at them  pop pop pop pop
July 6, 2019 at 9:43 am #302173Anonymous
GuestDear Cali Chica:
The email you sent this woman, so what if it seems petty, what difference does it make, other than your husband disapproving of it/ you- that matters. But other than that, who cares. I don’t see this email as petty or humiliating, not at all. It is just an email. Is there a person in authority who gathers all the emails you ever sent, evaluates you, then gives you a grade and the permission to live or not, according to that grade?
Not only that D doesn’t pay your bills, she didn’t even get you a wedding present. Who cares what she thinks… who is she in your life to matter to you?
You have to gather all those acorns aka friends and do a major cleanup of that mess, the mess that is your compulsive social life that you have focused on lifetime, I say.
anita
July 6, 2019 at 10:16 am #302185Cali Chica
ParticipantDear Anita,
yes. My visual of the balloons – darts going pop pop pop. Sounds like cleaning up that stupid social life doesnât it?
will you elaborate more? What you think…
July 6, 2019 at 10:31 am #302191Anonymous
GuestDear Cali Chica:
I didn’t read thoroughly your posts regarding the email to that person, didn’t really read it because it is such a headache and unpleasant for me to read. You know I thoroughly read a whole lot of stuff, but this is too silly for me to engage in, and I think it is too silly for you to engage in as well.
This silly social life teaching presented to you by your mother is such a waste of time and resources, it is so stupid that it makes me feel a bit sick, it only takes away from you. Didn’t you want early on to just be left alone, to just sit there (you phrased it this way), to be left alone and not be rushed and frenzied by her?
anita
July 6, 2019 at 11:49 am #302199Cali Chica
ParticipantDear Anita ,
The email is stupid the whole thing is stupid. My squirrel frenzy today was more that I was judging and angry at myself for reacting this way and having anger.
You in your first post told me this – donât put myself down for this anger – let it out. You gave me permission and you didnât judge me for the email (or whatever the email symbolized) Â so you helped me not judge myself.
Yes I see this from above again. I was able to climb up as the squirrel did a week ago. I see that I fell down and went after all the rotten acorns. Then I got angry for even noticing the stupid acorns. Now I see that in order to release anger about acorns or the whole aspect of (over focusing on friendship and acorns) anger must be released. In any way. Embrace it.
Thanks for bringing me back to clarity. Thanks for reminding me to give myself permission.
Thats all I can say
July 6, 2019 at 11:52 am #302201Cali Chica
ParticipantAlso I want to add that your post aboutâ so what if I sent that email. Anita, no one has ever told me that in my entire life including my own self. I really needed to hear this. Thank you
July 6, 2019 at 12:07 pm #302205Anonymous
GuestDear Cali Chica:
You are welcome. I didn’t think about the email itself as stupid, but the bigger picture of the zero or negative return on investment that is in this frenzied social life, and I see it in personal experience as well. Think of your wedding itself, this huge social event that you didn’t enjoy- the massive amount of time and money that went into it, wasn’t it a big waste, given you didn’t enjoy the event? So the lack of gift from this D is just one very tiny event within the whole costly event.
In general, pay attention to what you invest your time and resources on, that it is not in nonsensical social busy-ness, just spinning the wheels for nothing.
I will be back tomorrow morning. Glad you are feeling better, being above, you are doing well !!!
anita
July 6, 2019 at 1:42 pm #302215Cali Chica
ParticipantDear Anita,
thank you for your reply and patience with me as I unraveled my frenzy, and was able to see it clearly. I saw it as a jar of marbles being tipped over, all the marbles scrambling around, boisterous and frenzied.
And as I was able to see the whole scenario piece by piece – I picked up a few marbles and looked at them and fixated on each one. The colors the variables – looking closely – so closely getting a headache, tunnel vision on this intricate marble.
Then taking a step back and seeing those 2 marbles I fixated on – thrown in the frenzy of all of these scattered marbles all over the table and now the floor.
To hell with those 2 silly marbles – look at this floor! A mess! A mess of messy marbles – superficial pieces of glass that just leads to spilled frenzy
July 7, 2019 at 8:42 am #302243Cali Chica
ParticipantDear Anita,
I noticed a benefit of seeing squirrel life from below and above. That once you get a glimpse from above – you know you are capable of climbing there – and so hopefully (like this time) you can more quickly jump back up there.
Versus an unknown ambiguous goal of reaching above.
I thought about how the frenzied bobble head bird and the squirrel both spin the wheels but get nowhere. I also thought about how beyond the mother voice – on some days there’s distress and anger, some of which may be just one layer of repressed emotion. Just one – peeling away.
It can be ugly and strange the way it’s released. But who said the path isn’t windy?
I am working on today, thinking about differentiating truths and lies. I do believe this will further my work of releasing anger at My mother that is often redirected everywhere else.
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July 7, 2019 at 8:43 am #302245Anonymous
GuestDear Cali Chica:
You come up with amazing imageries, excellent marbles imagery, the stepping back and seeing the two marbles you fixated on within the whole of the “mess of messy marbles”, amazingly creative and intelligent.
The most difficult work in this process is not the intellectual understanding of how things came about, that interesting aha moments of understanding from before. The most difficult work is the practical calming of the frenzy in each moment the frenzy takes place.
This calming of the moments of frenzy, a calming made possible by those intellectual understanding from before (and more to come) is essential to the process. If it doesn’t happen then all the work done is an intellectual exercise, interesting, fascinating but limited to an intellectual exercise.
anita
July 7, 2019 at 10:30 am #302261Anonymous
GuestDear Cali Chica:
Yesterday when I read your posts I was a bit frenzied so I didn’t read thoroughly, I am able to read thoroughly this Sunday morning. I want to look into .. The Anatomy of Frenzy:
You are having dinner with your husband, his friend and his friend’s wife, a “horrific woman. Controlling, strange, passive aggressive.. bad energy”, your distress over living with your mother, a horrific woman, was activated (trigger 1) and it “made me act strange” (reaction 1). Next, your husband “started feeling irritated at me for my behavior” (trigger 2) and you “was angered by the fact that he was annoyed at my behavior” (reaction 2). Next, “I found myself angry at so many things.. that girl N” (trigger 3)⊠“this friend D.. didn’t have the decency to even give us a wedding present.. I’ve helped her endlessly.. no effort to ever visit (trigger 4). Next, you felt angry at yourself “as I felt I had undone so much of (recent progress)” (trigger 5). Next, you sent an angry email to D, “he (D’s ex boyfriend).. calls my husband.. then a huge paragraph text.. why the hell would Cali Chica send that.. Now my husband is stressed.. and feels embarrassed (reaction/attempted solution 6, and trigger 6).
Here are the things you did to calm the frenzy:
1. You had a conversation with your husband, it worked and you relaxed, no negative consequences.
2. You sent D an email, maybe it made you feel better temporarily, not sure, but backfired.
3. You “re read all of our posts on this new thread.. in which I have done ‘groundbreaking work'”, you talked sense to yourself, (“you sent a Hasty email.. But so what. It’s not people in your inner circle…”) and you posted to me, receiving my replies.
-The result: more healing, more learning and seeing what is next on your healing path: “You (anita) gave me permission and you didn’t judge me for the email.. so you helped me not judge myself.. I see this from above again. I was able to climb up as the squirrel did a week ago.. I was able to see the whole scenario piece by piece.. I noticed the benefit of seeing squirrel life from below and above. That once you get a glimpse from above- you know you are capable of climbing there… It can be ugly and strange the way it’s released. But who said the path isn’t windy?… this will further my work of releasing anger at My mother that is often redirected everywhere else”.
Now, looking at the whole thing: I want to get the email out of the way first: it is a good idea to send her an email regarding your disappointment in her behavior, but better make it direct, quite short but detailed and clear enough to make your feelings known. It would be an assertive and fair reaction on your part to her rude behavior (her and her ex boyfriend not giving you a wedding present so long after the wedding and her ex coming up with .. we were thinking of taking you out to dinner.. is bs. It angers me as I type this). I think that any socialization with her or her ex boyfriend following an assertive email (if you choose to send a follow up assertive email to her), is very unwise, it will harm your emotional health.
Notice that having a conversation with your husband helped you, good thing. Notice how you did a few things to help yourself and you did help yourself.. and your husband. Excellent job.
In the future, today, tomorrow, any day, catch the frenzy early, in the first or two trigger stage, notice the escalation of frenzy in its beginning stages and de-escalate it.
anita
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