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February 19, 2019 at 2:44 am #280719me myself and iParticipant
she denies it till she’s blue in the face
but then she goes and does something like sell my car, without asking me. im 33! i parked it at her house for a while and it was gone
works really hard to break down my mind, to convince me things are impossible, hopeless
annihilated my self esteem for decades, isolated me, gets me to crack and then makes sure im in the most impossible situation so she can walk away /leave everything a wreck, so that im always conveniently ‘broken’ so that she leave or play mother, i swear its like a game to her. to make me feel hopeless lies and watch me scramble because id believe her lies
i never believed it, it was so hellishly confusing
i finally got her the hell out of my life //FOR GOOD//no talking to family
but i just feel like the good years are ruined
whats the point i dont know how to make life work
i piece things together over and over
savings, a shitty place to live, my shitty job, it all kept blowing away, especially 2 years ago
how does anyone live like that??????
i dont even want my mind imprisoned in a relationship with a man
i just want stability my own life MINE, i saw how much my father destroyed her
after we stopped talking i just felt even more hopeless
like she ruined me, shes in my head
i made tons of improvements to my mind, increasingly feel miles better away from family
but dont know how to feel like i can get past the shitty job, having to rent rooms, this really precarious feeling
usually i feel like ill be fine then i learn i have to find a new place, move AGAIN, because im not good at renting rooms with strangers honestly. i cant get an apartment, my credit is screwed
spent all of my savings on a hotel
when it comes to daily life, i don’t see the point
it increasingly looks and feels like ..hopeless, because i look at the past, tend to focus on that sort of evidence instead of let go, and feel light, go with the current
but even when im in a good conducive place in my mind bad things happen. i have to move again b/c this ladies sons screams 24/7 i cant live around that
bad things happen a lot when i rent rooms
how to stay the hell away from this mentality…situation
never focus on history?
March 10, 2019 at 1:45 am #283915JayJayParticipantHello to you.
Well what you describe sounds like you had a very controlling and dominating mother. And perhaps a father as well.
I applaud your efforts to go no contact. It’s very difficult to do that, so well done to you for finding the courage to break away.
It takes an awful long time to come to terms with what has happened to you. It’s a kind of PTSD. Is it possible you could find a good therapist to help you to work through some of these issues?
Best wishes,
Jay
March 10, 2019 at 9:59 am #283963AnonymousGuestDear me myself and i:
You and I have a lot in common. You wrote about your mother: “she ruined me, she’s in my head”-
same here. My mother ruined a whole lot of my life too. I put lots of miles between me and her, crossed two oceans away, but when I wasn’t talking to her on the phone or visiting with her, she was still talking to me “in my head”. (And like you I rented rooms in other people’s home for years).
Our early life experiences with our mothers are very significant because we are not separated mentally from her, so her voice becomes our voice, and what she told us, and the messages she communicated to us, we keep hearing those throughout life, no matter how far.
Until we find a quiet enough place to live in and learn to hear silence instead of her voice. I will be glad to share with you what I have learned so far about living without her voice. I will soon be away from the computer for about nineteen hours. If you reply to me, I will read and reply to you when I am back.
anita
March 21, 2019 at 1:54 am #285551me myself and iParticipanti dont know, i have extreme trust issues after something else that happened to me
i know there are certain people you can trust absolutely…but they’re elusive. most people .. i dont know what their motives are
a LOT of people maliciously stalk and try to ‘bully’ me now and im having none of it
i refuse to be upset for anybody, or even acknowledge it
i get into heavy heavy heavy meditation and journaling 24/7 now
im really conflicted about how to process my hatred of ppl now
i have my own beliefs, conflicting with others, (southerners) im very ‘radical’, but mostly i want independence, my mind and pride back, i dont want kids or family just PEACE, my art, my writing
reeeeally conflicted about ppl, they’re very nasty
im very isolated
what are you SUPPOSED to do when 90% are like this
like they allll fucking demonize you?
im extremely used to isolation, but loathing ppl is new
i didn’t used to until this happened to me
so many things
i refuse to kill myself REFUSE i clawed like mad to escape
so fucking hard
i dont want to become angry/hateful but ppl are such vampires
March 21, 2019 at 2:07 am #285553me myself and iParticipanthahaha my mother is a cakewalk compared to the stalking
when i wrote this, i was angry because somehow her bs got in my head
mostly, as i wrote in my other post, i want to know how to deal with hatred
even when im attempting to come from a healthy place ppl demonize and turn on me
i never used to hate
i mean most of my life ppl were scummy/ twisted.
but i still looked for the best. i was so blind.
jesus christ
March 21, 2019 at 2:20 am #285557me myself and iParticipantpple hate because you’re an extremely complex, rigorous personality
they hate that you put sooo much ungodly attn into detail, quality and honesty
but its just part of getting your mind back
whatever that means
i worked so fucking hard to scrape all my things neatly together
im just a failure artist tho
why do ppl even care to put so much effort into keeping me away from freedom and simple work obsessed happiness
why do they try sooo hard to get me to kill myself
im just going to find other ways too feel creative high and ‘rudely, shamelessly’ ignore them
March 21, 2019 at 9:16 am #285619AnonymousGuestDear me myself and i:
You wrote: “most people.. i don’t know what their motives are… a LOT of people maliciously stalk and try to ‘bully’ me now… ppl are such vampires.. i mean most of my life ppl were scummy/twisted… but i still looked for the best, i was so blind”-
We are al born blind to bad people. We look up to the adults in our young lives as if they were very good people, reaching out to them with complete trust, not knowing that there is a chance that they will hurt us. When a parent feeds us, when we are young children, oh, the food feels so good. We think the parent loves us, and we are so happy.
What a shock it is when we find out that the parent who feeds us also hits us, or calls us names, what a shock it is for a young child to be betrayed for the first time.
Do you feel this way as well, that it is shocking to be betrayed by one’s parent, the person we look up to with 100% trust?
anita
March 21, 2019 at 2:26 pm #285699me myself and iParticipantno things have gradually become clear….its shocking how much i thought was actually a distrusting person. even when i was distrusting i was still too trusting. home was a negative place.
honestly i just want to know how to not hate people
what am i supposed to think about them??
they say you should be ‘lonely’
in my experience i only feel empty and like im missing something after being around them
from either their stalking harassment or emotional blackmail
- This reply was modified 5 years, 8 months ago by me myself and i.
March 21, 2019 at 3:04 pm #285707AnonymousGuestDear me myself and i:
“I just want to know how to not hate people”-
Hate is strong and lasting anger. We feel anger when we are hurt or when we are scared, or both: we get hurt and we are afraid to get hurt even more.
You wrote: “home was a negative place”-
– is it in your childhood home where you were hurt most badly, where you therefore got angry, that anger grew and grew into hate of all people, is that what happened?
* I will be away from the computer and be back in about 14 hours from now. I hope to read from you and reply to you when I am back.
anita
March 21, 2019 at 9:39 pm #285745me myself and iParticipantit was extremely confusing. very negative. b/c …it was constant combat. i came up with attachment disorders, being adopted. they couldnt handle it. i couldn’t either. it makes everything extremely confusing. you have it since your a baby. you can’t remember why uv extremely insecure attachments, depression
the ONLY things that make me feel whole are art/ god
March 22, 2019 at 6:20 am #285785AnonymousGuestDear me myself and i:
You wrote that your childhood home was “extremely confusing”. In your original post you gave some details of that extremely confusing life that you had. You wrote that your mother annihilated your self esteem, isolated you, got you into “the most impossible situations so she can walk away/leave everything a wreck”, that she boke you and works really hard to break down your mind… and then, she “denies it till she’s blue in the face”.
It is very confusing for a child to be treated so badly by one own mother, to be treated like an enemy that needs to be broken and annihilated. A mother is supposed to be loving, kind, building the child, not annhilating the child, making it possible for the child to have a good life, not to bring her child to impossible situations and then walk away.
Clearly, after a terrible experience like this, the child, now adult (you are 33) needs quality psychotherapy so to start a healing process.
anita
March 23, 2019 at 12:58 am #285867me myself and iParticipantehh..yes.
i found I’m best off journaling….nobody knows me better than me. i read books and dig up solutions on my own. done it for years on various forums
March 23, 2019 at 10:55 am #285937MarkParticipantme myself and i
I know that what we feel about others comes in part how we feel about ourselves. We project out into the world. As anita points out, hate comes out of anger which in turn, comes out of fear.
It seems all you were taught from your family-of-origin is fear, anger, and hate. Those are deep core issues which can be helped by introspection and self awareness up to a point. However there is a quote attributed to Albert Einstein (but I doubt that he said it like this for I cannot find the original source): “No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it.” This means that unless we have an outsider’s perspective and guidance then we cannot fully solve our own problems.
Mark
March 25, 2019 at 2:48 am #286167JayJayParticipantHi Me, Myself and I,
I think Mark above has a point there.
You have been journaling and looking up solutions on your own….and you have ‘done it for years’. So it helps your peace of mind to do these things, but it’s not solving the root causes and issues for you. If you have done this for years and still have the same issues, then it’s not working that well.
I agree that you need outside help from a quality psychotherapist, as Anita suggested. Perhaps you could give it a try? After all, nothing ventured, nothing gained?
with best wishes,
Jay.
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