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November 9, 2025 at 11:26 pm #451690
AlessaParticipantHi Ann
Honestly, I understand your anxiety around water. ❤️ I drowned in a river and had to be given mouth to mouth as a teenager. I was slight too and I knew how to swim, albeit I was not a good swimmer. Your fear is realistic and you can’t be too careful when swimming in open water. A pool is much safer. Did you communicate your concerns about the sea to the group?
I totally get it! That is modern dating for you. 🤷♀️ Most people have a bit of an addiction if they use their phones regularly, it seems. It’s natural to want a bit of attention from your partner. Do perhaps hold back from attending to these feelings until it frustrates you? What do you think?
Ahh, I understand. Uncertainty makes me feel anxious sometimes too. A lot of life is uncertain though. It can be hard.
I don’t think he meant anything bad by it though. Since you know that uncertainty is a trigger for you, when you feel anxious it might be helpful to check is this because of my uncertainty trigger? Triggers can make things seem bigger than they are. It can be helpful sometimes to practice self-soothing when you notice these kinds of triggers too make it regular sized. What kinds of things help your anxiety and make you feel calmer? ❤️
Only if you feel comfortable. Are there any significant times in your life where you have felt this deep anxiety over uncertainty? Where do you think it might come from? ❤️
Looking forward to hearing your thoughts and feelings. Please feel free to share anything at all. ❤️
November 15, 2025 at 10:32 pm #451841
AnnParticipant“I feel I still need to talk to him more about what happened”- yes, do talk to him about what happened, but do in small portions, little by little, in a way that doesn’t come across as defensive..
I tried talking to him about it again by asking him why it bothered him that my friends kept asking him why i keep wanting to go to the mall during our trip. He said it didn’t bother him but that was just an example and they are my friends so he’s confused why they would ask him and expected that they should know the answer. I explained to him that it was because they have all been there before so it’s not their first time going, so maybe they weren’t as excited to explore; but for me, it WAS my first time going so of course I wanted to explore and walk around since it’s a new place to me. He didn’t understand and kept saying that we were going to the same mall, and was defending my friends. I felt so triggered like he and my friends don’t even try to see things from my perspective, only theirs. I get called selfish by him and it feels like he is refusing to try to understand me. It’s so frustrating. I end up crying because I am so frustrated.
My friends mostly just wanted to stay at the beaches and hotel pool, and I tried to accommodate and stayed with them. I tried getting in the water, but don’t know how to swim so I end up just sitting on the sand and wait for them to be done. I still wanted to do something with them after the beach like getting dinner together at least and just talk, but every time after the beach and pool, they would say they don’t feel too good and that their head hurt, so they just end up staying in their hotel. I just felt frustrated and disappointed. My boyfriend of course didn’t mind just staying at the beach and hotel pool.
It was just a bad idea to travel with him and my friends to Hawaii. Maybe we should have picked another destination. Now I feel resentment for them, mostly with my friends. I just don’t understand why it bothered him so much.
November 15, 2025 at 10:43 pm #451842
AnnParticipant“Honestly, I understand your anxiety around water. ❤️ I drowned in a river and had to be given mouth to mouth as a teenager. I was slight too and I knew how to swim, albeit I was not a good swimmer. Your fear is realistic and you can’t be too careful when swimming in open water. A pool is much safer. Did you communicate your concerns about the sea to the group?
I totally get it! That is modern dating for you. 🤷♀️ Most people have a bit of an addiction if they use their phones regularly, it seems. It’s natural to want a bit of attention from your partner. Do perhaps hold back from attending to these feelings until it frustrates you? What do you think?
Ahh, I understand. Uncertainty makes me feel anxious sometimes too. A lot of life is uncertain though. It can be hard.
I don’t think he meant anything bad by it though. Since you know that uncertainty is a trigger for you, when you feel anxious it might be helpful to check is this because of my uncertainty trigger? Triggers can make things seem bigger than they are. It can be helpful sometimes to practice self-soothing when you notice these kinds of triggers too make it regular sized. What kinds of things help your anxiety and make you feel calmer? ❤️
Only if you feel comfortable. Are there any significant times in your life where you have felt this deep anxiety over uncertainty? Where do you think it might come from? ❤️
Looking forward to hearing your thoughts and feelings. Please feel free to share anything at all. ❤️”
Hi Alessa.
I did tell them briefly, but I felt they didn’t understand my concerns.
I just got used to the phone thing. I feel there are bigger issues than that. I tried to bring things up when it bothers me. Sometimes when I bring certain things up, I feel it just gets dismissed and it would be about who’s right or wrong. I hate that and always get triggered when the conversation is about who is right or wrong. Why does it always have to be something is right or wrong?? My mom does that and my boyfriend does that. I hate it so much. Not everything is so black and white all the time.
I try to walk or go sleep or shower to make myself feel better. But I’ve been spending a lot of money to cope with feeling sad and it’s not healthy.
I think this uncertainty trigger got worse after the break up with my previous ex. Things with him were always on and off for years, and I didn’t find out that he had no intentions of marrying me or see a future. His actions were always proof. He would make plans and then the plans get cancelled. So over time, I got very angsty and irritable when things aren’t for sure..
November 16, 2025 at 5:40 am #451849
RobertaParticipantHi Ann
When people have been doing something for a long time they forget what it was like for them in the beginning. Take car driving for instance unless you think back to the basics & how over whelming & out of control it all feels at first, you wont make a good driving instructor.
One of my bosses never learnt how to swim as a youngster, in their 50’s they went on a short holiday which was designed to teach older people how to swim.
Also many people choose to swim parallel to the beach in not too deep water, but some locations where there is surf breaking a lot you have to go out a bit further to calmer water.I hope that you find your confidence both in the water & your relationship.
Kind regards
RobertaNovember 16, 2025 at 11:01 am #451855
anitaParticipantDear Ann:
“I tried talking to him about it again by asking him why it bothered him that my friends kept asking him why I keep wanting to go to the mall during our trip. He said it didn’t bother him but that was just an example and they are my friends so he’s confused why they would ask him and expected that they should know the answer… I just don’t understand why it bothered him so much..”-
Seems to me, that what confused or puzzled him was that your friends had no idea why you wanted to go to the mall and they didn’t ask you why, they asked him.. which suggests a lack of CONNECTION between you and your friends (or.. not really friends..?).
I spent a few hours on Nov 7 studying your previous threads. Maybe it’d be worth it to look into your own words in regard to connecting with people (I am upper casing the word connecting or connection):
“I’ve always struggled with making friends and building strong CONNECTIONS with people (9/24/2019)… growing up I didn’t get much of the emotional connection and bond with my parents… Which makes sense I would then crave/depend a lot on my ex partner for the emotional support and CONNECTION but even then, it was not enough. (9/25/2019)… I’ve been spending a lot of time by myself, but still can’t help feeling depressed from lack of emotional intimacy or closeness with anyone, even with my family… I just don’t feel any emotional CONNECTION (July 11-12, 2020.
Another related theme is you feeling MISUNDERSTOOD. You wrote yesterday (again, uppercasing): “He didn’t UNDERSTAND and kept saying that we were going to the same mall, and was defending my friends. I felt so triggered like he and my friends don’t even try to see things from my perspective, only theirs. I get called selfish by him and it feels like he is refusing to try to UNDERSTAND me… I did tell them briefly, but I felt they didn’t UNDERSTAND my concerns.”
I did a little study just now on the above two themes in general (not at all in regard to anything you shared): “Disconnection breeds misunderstanding: When you feel cut off from others, you’re less likely to share openly. That lack of communication makes it harder for people to truly understand you.
“Misunderstanding reinforces disconnection: If people misinterpret your words, emotions, or intentions, it can feel like they don’t “get” you. That experience often pushes you further away, deepening the sense of isolation.
“Cycle of distance: Disconnection → less communication → more misunderstanding → stronger disconnection. It becomes a loop unless broken by empathy or clearer dialogue.
“Psychological perspective- Belonging needs: Humans have a core need to belong. When misunderstood, that need feels unmet, which shows up as disconnection.
“Identity and validation: Feeling understood validates your identity. Without it, you may feel invisible or alienated.
“Emotional safety: Understanding creates safety. Misunderstanding can feel unsafe, leading to withdrawal and loneliness.
“Feeling disconnected and feeling misunderstood are not separate — they feed into each other. Disconnection makes understanding harder, and misunderstanding makes disconnection deeper. Breaking the cycle usually requires open communication, empathy, and patience from both sides.
“There are practical strategies to break the cycle between feeling disconnected and misunderstood, and to move toward deeper connection”.
End of study.
What do you think about the above, Ann? If it resonates, would you like to discuss practical strategies to move toward deeper connections with your friends and boyfriend?
🤍 Anita
November 16, 2025 at 1:14 pm #451857
AlessaParticipantHi Ann
I’m sorry to hear that they weren’t understanding about your concerns. That’s such a shame. ❤️
I understand you! I believe similarly to you, feelings can just be feelings and there doesn’t need to be blame assigned to everything. It hurts having your feelings dismissed because people are stuck in their perspective instead of trying to be understanding. ❤️
Ahh that’s understandable why the situation with your boyfriend is a trigger for you then. Things going very quickly and then being more pragmatic set off that old wound for you.
It must have been very painful being in an off again and on again relationship and craving security. I’m so sorry about the difficulties with it. ❤️
Have you talked to your boyfriend anymore since the difficult conversation? How are things now?
It’s understandable to be sad because it is a painful situation for you. Please try to take extra care whilst things are difficult. You deserve kindness, understanding and sensitivity. ❤️
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