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  • #456274
    anita
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    Good 🌄 Confused:

    You wrote 14 hours ago: “She is so loving/ kind towards me”-

    Sounds comforting on one hand, but maybe unfamiliar on the other hand. What is new and unfamiliar can feel dangerous, simply because it’s unfamiliar.

    “I felt a feeling of ‘obligation’ towards her… and now I have to keep up the same way forever”-

    Young Confused, the 👦 Confused felt an obligation to keep up something, a vigilence perhaps, managing others’ emotions perhaps, a very difficult job for a boy..?

    👦⏰️ Anita

    #456281
    anita
    Participant

    Hey Confused:

    You asked earlier:

    “Why don’t I have emotional permanence?”-

    It makes sense to me that your feelings show up strongly when you’re close to her — in person or on videocall — and then go quiet when the moment passes. For someone who grew up in a chaotic home, feelings often come in bursts of intensity and then disappear.

    It’s not that the feelings weren’t real. It’s that your system learned to “turn the volume down” when things feel too big or too close. That’s not wrong — it’s just how you learned to cope.

    And you also asked:

    “Could I be avoiding the emotions ending things would bring? But if that’s what I wanted, why doesn’t this thought bring me peace?”-

    I think the reason the thought doesn’t bring you peace is because you don’t actually want to lose her. Even when your feelings go quiet, you still care.

    You’re confused, not indifferent.

    Ending things would bring its own kind of pain, and your mind knows that. So, of course the idea doesn’t feel peaceful.

    Both of these things — the fading of feelings and the fear of ending things — make sense when someone has had to protect themselves emotionally for a long time. None of it means you’re doing something wrong.

    🌿Anita

    #456282
    Confused
    Participant

    Hey anita

    But she has been loving/kind/caring towards me since summer, what changed in that specific day?

    Yes i have been feeling responsible for “keeping the peace” in the house, not upset my parents or bother them because they might get moody and a fight could break out, not burdening them also. At times i felt “responsible” to give my mother relief on certain things too.

    Hmm, the way you put it makes sense but why did that manifest now? Could it be because my nervous system feels “unsafe” so it doesn’t hold on to emotions? Or nobody else ever gotten this close to me before? Because with her i’ve shared everything, my fears, my weird thoughts, something that i’ve never done before with anyone else.

    Yes i do care about her a lot and i think deep down i don’t wanna end things (at least this was how i was feeling a month ago, now everything is more numb). The thought of losing her forever and having to put her in “my past” makes me very sad and i cry instantly. I think of how special she is to me and how precious i would feel our connection before all this happened. But then i get angry at myself because where are those good feelings?

    Therapist today told me that in the next session we will focus on the past connections and my relationship with my parents. She was taking notes of everything i was telling her and she highlighted the part where i said “i am either 100 or 0, all or nothing, i dont know in-betweens” and the “i’ve never missed anyone in my life”. Also i dont feel jealous of the girl now (well, i do a little bit) but maybe that’s a good thing? That means that i feel safe with her? I also gave her a list of all my compulsions and what i do that led me to discovering relationship OCD. Which in most people start with a thought “what if i dont love my partner?” or when the next big step is gonna happen. And i’ve had both the thought and the big step. I just wanna feel the same for her again 🙁

    #456283
    anita
    Participant

    Hey Dear Confused:

    I just came back from the local taproom and read your recent post. What stands out to me is this: “Or nobody else ever gotten this close to me before?”-

    Seems like it to me, and because she felt the closest, the deepest fears awakened.

    Your new therapist saying she’d like to focus on your relationships with your parents on the next session- I think she’s on track.

    I’ll write more later.

    Anita

    #456284
    Confused
    Participant

    Welcome back anita!

    The truth is, with her i felt the most seen/loved and cared for, even typing this my eyes get watery. But right now i can’t feel the “appreciation” for all those positives and i feel ungrateful. 🙁

    I don’t really have much to tell her though haha. I was disconnected

    I’ll reply tomorrow 🙂

    #456285
    Confused
    Participant

    Damn, i read my post again and i contradict myself again: “my eyes get watery” / “i can’t feel the appreciation”

    #456286
    anita
    Participant

    Hey 👋 Confused:

    I used the 🖥 right above, had it only for a few moments. Now, I’m back to my 📱, hence the emojis 🙂

    I like it that your new therapist was taking notes of everything ✔️

    The fact that you shared everything with her (your gf): your fears, your “weird” thoughts- that’s very meaningful- you trusted her.

    And then, that trust scared you because trust was not something you grew up with?

    I am hopeful about your new therapy. Here, in this thread, I am like (an older) friend, not a therapist, just a person to think with, gently.

    A personal note: I’m a bit excited for you, hopeful. And a bit romantic in that it seems to me that what you have with gf is special, precious, a real connection. And that’s why it caused all that shutdown and doubts-

    Not because the relationship was lacking, but because it was wonderful.

    ✔️📱🌙🐇 (don’t know, I just like rabbits) Anita

    #456287
    anita
    Participant

    I posted the above before I read your most recent 2 posts. B Back later

    #456296
    anita
    Participant

    Good 🌄 Confused:

    “The truth is, with her, I felt the most seen/ loved and cared for, even typing this makes my eyes watery”- that’s emotion expressing itself.

    Continued quote: “But right now, I can’t feel the ‘appreciation’ for all those positives and I feel ungrateful”-

    You ignored or put aside the feeling you did have (that which caused your eyes to become watery) because your focus was on what you SHOULD feel but don’t.

    So, it’s like policing 🚔 your feelings.

    I wonder what it’d be like for you to pay attention to what you do feel, to those 💧 👀

    In an earlier post yesterday, you wrote: “Yes, I have been feeling responsible for ‘keeping the peace’, not upset my parents or bother them”-

    In that environment, a boy learns to hide those watery eyes so to not upset or bother his parents?

    And the boy learns to focus on what he ‘should’ feel so to keep the peace in the home?

    💧 👀 👦 Anita

    #456305
    Confused
    Participant

    Hey anita

    I did share everything after i got this incident in november so i could give her something to understand and not think i was manipulating her, but still i opened up about everything.

    Thank you 🙂 I did feel our connection as precious and special, it’s just now that i am in this state, it’s like nothing matters to me. But when i think back at it, i get tears and maybe a warm feeling that what we’ve built is very nice 🙂

    U think that’s what caused my shutdown? I will elaborate more on that on another post later

    Yes u are right, i am focused on what i SHOULD be feeling (which is probably elation, infatuation, honeymoon phase, etc) and i don’t pay attention to the other feelings. Hmm i would say it’s like appreciation and caring.

    I did not express anger/sadness to anyone in my life, including my parents.Never felt comfortable doing so.
    Also yes, if i can recall correctly, sometimes i did “manage” myself to not disturb anyone. You think those things affect me today?

    #456306
    anita
    Participant

    Hey 👋 Confused:

    Yes. I do think those things (growing up in a violent home, living there till 22, managing yourself so to not disturb your parents and never expressing anger or sadness to them, or to anyone else) affect you today.

    And I think it’d affect anyone with the circumstances you grew up with. No one can come out of it unaffected.

    “I am focused on what I SHOULD be feeling”-

    I have a question for you, Confused: did this focus help you at any time in the past, and if it did, in what way or ways has it been helpful?

    🤔 Anita

    #456307
    Confused
    Participant

    Perhaps u are right anita, because this led me to either people please or get angry and cut people off like a switch. (two extremes again, the ambivalence of either 0 or 100)

    I like your questions 🙂
    Hmm, i can’t recall anything specific, maybe because it never worked?

    Thinking back on my relationship patterns, even though all of them were short-lived, i realize that i was only associating with girls that never really made me feel safe (always hypervigilant about them leaving, trying to meet thir needs).The feeling of needing them was consuming me, they were the source of my happiness (just like it happened with the current one) and i would get strong stomach cramps because of insecurities (like jealousy), even though i would always be pretty chill and never worry about getting cheated on since i can’t control them and know for sure, so i never bothered, i did felt extreme feelings of jealousy though, the ambivalence again? 🙂

    As for the present girl, i would be like that until two months ago, if she would speak of any male acquaintance or someone hitting on her i would get this intense feeling in the stomach (i think u know what im talking about). Now i still get jealous (we joked around today and i did feel jealousy, but it was not needed) but i stopped getting this intense stomach cramp-like feeling. Could this mean that i’ve reached a level of security and comfort in this relationship that i am more relaxed on this part? Because my mind translates this as “if u dont feel consumed by jealousy then u dont want her”. Also, since november (the birth of confused), whenever i would have fun or feel good with friends/etc and not with her, or not think of her for some minutes, or feel the same intense infatuation for her, i would feel guilty and sad, which my mind also translates to “u see? u dont really wanna be with her”. I would say there is a level of codependency on me. I’ve never learned calm love/choice, i would always seek intensity and to be consumed by desire, otherwise it wouldn’t gauge my interest.

    Idk if i’m right, i am just introspecting 🙂

    #456309
    anita
    Participant

    Hey Confused:

    Your first paragraph- it’s like I wrote it! It makes sense that we have or had this in common. We both grew up in violent homes.

    Jealousy is another thing we have or had in common. I was obsessively jealous.

    “I stopped getting this intense stomach cramp- like feeling. Could this mean I’ve reached a level of security and comfort in this relationship…?”-

    Could be,yes. There’s something special here. Over time, the image of her as an honest, open, caring, mature and trustworthy woman comes to (my) mind.

    “November- the birth of Confused”- ha-ha, Confused being funny 😁

    “I’ve never learned calm love”- B.I.N.G.O.

    This is It! This is the biggest insight coming from you (exciting for me to read)!

    “I would always seek intensity… “-

    Growing up, it was either feeling very low and numb OR intense, and the latter was way preferable? It was one way or the other?

    😳 – 😅- 😳- Anita

    #456310
    Confused
    Participant

    U mean the people pleasing or cutting people off? I’ve always found it to be weird when i would think about it.

    Hmm, i do make scenarios in my head, that’s what u mean?

    Yes but my mind still downplays this and thinks obsessiveness and jealousy/infatuation is the only way 🙂

    Haha thats how i mark the beginning of all this just so we can understand better

    Exactly, it would either be very low, almost no excitement for anything or very intense and of course intensity was more preferable for me, because this is the only time i would feel “alive”.

    #456311
    anita
    Participant

    Hey Confused:

    “U mean the people pleasing or cutting people off? I’ve always found it to be weird when I would think about it.”-

    It’s a normal reaction to an abnormal (weird) circumstance. I used to feel very weird until I realized that I adapted best a human can- to a very weird childhood that was imposed on me.

    “Exactly, it would either be very low, almost no excitement for anything or very intense and of course intensity was more preferable for me, because this is the only time I would feel ‘alive’.”-

    No wonder you got attached to feeling ALIVE. Nothing like feeling alive when feeling dead too much of the time.

    Strange how a person (me) can live for so long feeling dead.

    What if you can find a balance between emotional-death and emotional- ALIVE?

    Like right now, I am listening to nostalgic music, talking to you, and I feel quite alive- because of the music and because I’m talking to you.

    (Using the computer, so no emojis show up), Anita

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