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  • #456199
    anita
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    I hope 🙏 Confused & wild animals are 😴 💤 this too early Sun morning in Greece; getting late here, WA, USA.

    Good 🌄, 🌙 Anita

    #456200
    anita
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    Good 🌄 Confused:

    You wrote earlier:

    “So you mean let them be and pay no attention to them? Rather act on logic/values?”-

    I would say: do pay attention to your feelings. Accept them without judgment. Welcome them into your home (your body and mind) without harrassing them with logic and values.

    Keep the Logic-Values Guards (LVGs)💂‍♀️ 💂‍♀️ out so that your feelings don’t get harrassed (leading to your feelings getting scared and hiding much of the time).

    These guards have a place in the context of what you communicate to other people (through words & actions)

    They have no place in context of what you feel internally.

    In yet other words, you are not a good person because you feel A and B, and you’re not a bad person for feeling X and Y.

    What you feel internally is your private domain. Your business. You don’t owe anyone to feel this or that for them.

    Keep the guards 💂‍♀️ 💂‍♂️ out of your private domain. They don’t belong there.

    🔮 Anita

    #456201
    Confused
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    Hey anita

    I definitely wanna ‘tame’ them haha..

    Hmm, i think they’re saying “let me out” but idk what’s holding them 🙁

    #456202
    anita
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    Hey Confused: who are they asking to be let out? 🙂

    #456204
    Confused
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    Hmm i have no clue honestly, it’s weird 🙂

    #456205
    anita
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    I think 🤔 it’s 3:42 am in Greece 🇬🇷 when you submitted the above. I wonder if you work the night shift and that’s why you’re regularly awake at this time ⏰️

    It’s right after 7 pm here.

    Does she plan to go back to Greece after Germany? How do you feel about possibly living in Cyprus?

    🤔 Anita

    #456206
    anita
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    * Does she plan to go back to Cyprus

    #456208
    Confused
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    I rarely sleep during those times anita, i usually sleep around 05:00-06:00, used to work night shifts so i like the night 🙂

    I think she plans going back to cyprus and i would be ok with living there, it’s similar to greece and i’ve been there for a year almost while i was serving.

    Do you know about dorsal vagal shutdown by the way?

    #456211
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Like-(the)-Night-Confused (LNC):

    Yes, we talked about Dorsal Vagal Shutdown. I brought it up to you some time ago because that seemed fitting to what you’ve been going through.

    Too much emotion=> Overwhelm 😱 => 😐

    It makes me feel nice, the idea 💡 of the two of you living in Cyprus.. Just the romantic-by proxy part of me.

    😱 😐 🙂 Anita

    #456224
    anita
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    Good morning, Confused:

    About dorsal vagal shutdown in general, and in the simplest language:

    When stress feels too big 🔥, the nervous system hits a kind of internal “off switch” to protect you (from a having a dangerously high heart 🫀, for one), and instead of Fight‑or‑Flight (fighting or running), the body goes into Freeze.

    It’s not a choice, a personality trait, or laziness — it’s a built‑in biological response.

    People describe it as feeling numb, disconnected, checked out, going blank, feeling heavy, slow, or foggy, feeling very tired, low‑energy, having trouble thinking, speaking, or caring about things.

    It’s your body telling you: “This is too much for me to process at full intensity, so I’m going to dim the lights.”, or “We’re going to slow everything down, so you don’t break.”

    Imagine a car going downhill with failing brakes. Dorsal vagal shutdown is the emergency brake that prevents a crash.

    Or imagine a computer that’s overheating. Instead of letting the system fry itself, it goes into safe mode. Dorsal vagal shutdown is your nervous system’s version of safe mode.

    It’s not ideal, but it’s protective.

    It’s possible that you grew up shut- downed in this way (that’s why you remember so little about the time you were younger than 17), you then recovered somewhat but in Nov last year the early shutdown was reactivated. Maybe you are feeling now like you used to feel when you were a kid.

    * I grew up heavily shut down, spaced out, hardly aware of the outside world (not seeing 😶‍🌫️ or hearing 🔇 what’s in front of me, not understanding what people were saying, etc., my brain filtering out most input), but sometimes, normal noises felt unbearably loud 🔊, light felt too intense, smells felt unbearable, certain clothing felt unbearably uncomfortable..

    My brain was filtering out most input, but the input that broke through felt too strong.

    It’s like having the volume turned down to 2… but every now and then something blasts at 10.

    Does this resonate?

    🤔 Anita

    #456229
    Confused
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    Hey anita

    Sometimes i feel nice with this idea too 🙂 Before november this would be all i desire with her 🙁

    I think dorsal vagal shutdown fits me as well. Perhaps it went down like this: Woke up feeling less in love/excited in general, started thinking i will lose her, panic, intense grief, more panic-> complete shutdown. I remember days 2 months ago when i would feel like nothing matters and it would be better for me to not exist at all.

    I definitely had all those (numb, checkedout, blank, foggy, trouble thinking-speaking and unable to care about anything) especially during november-january. Its KINDA better now but like a 5-10%.

    Oh, sometimes i would have such symptoms like spaced out, disconnecting mid-convo with others and my mind would zone out, mostly avoiding lights and some clothes.

    Some resonate but idk, would be better to not self-diagnose again haha. I wonder what should i say to the new therapist (OCD, CBT and depression specialist), i really want to get out of this hole 🙁

    #456233
    anita
    Participant

    👋 Confused:

    Feeling better now is.. better 🙂

    5-10% means 90%-95% yet to go to reach 100% which means ecstatic all the time?

    I do hope your sessions with your new therapist will be helpful.

    💡🏍🔮 Anita

    #456234
    anita
    Participant

    Hey Confused:

    I wanted to add something, because your recent message stayed with me.

    What you described — the panic, the fear of losing her, the emotional crash afterward, the numbness, zoning out, lights feeling too much, clothes feeling wrong, conversations fading out — that’s all a real pattern of overwhelm. You’re not imagining it, and you’re not “making it up.” It’s your system reacting to something that felt too big at the time.

    And you’re right: you don’t need to diagnose yourself. What you can do with your therapist is simply describe what happened in your own words, the way you did with me. That’s more than enough. Something like:

    “I went from panic to feeling totally numb.”

    “I felt disconnected from everything for weeks.”

    “My mind kept zoning out.”

    “Lights and sounds felt too intense.”

    “I couldn’t think or speak clearly.”

    “It’s a bit better now, but still not gone.”

    Therapists don’t need labels — they need experiences. And you described yours very clearly.

    The important thing is that you’re not stuck in this alone. You’re already doing the right thing by reaching out, noticing your patterns, and wanting to understand what happened. That’s a strong place to start from.

    🌿 Anita

    #456239
    Confused
    Participant

    Hey anita
    I think better=calmer so some emotions can still come at times 🙂

    Those symptoms were all present but the clothes one was mostly when i was a kid. Now i dont really mind, so it could be a thing of age.

    But yeah, the rest were all definitely present and very real. I still don’t like the lights, for example when i visit my father and we sit down to eat, i prefer eating in the dark, lights feel too tiring in a way, i dont know..

    I documented many things on the AI today for the appointment tomorrow, but i dont know what kind of therapist i would need to adress all those things. Perhaps it would be a combination of two?

    #456241
    anita
    Participant

    Hey Confused:

    Calmer is very good 🙂

    What you described about lights feeling tiring makes sense. When your nervous system is overloaded or recovering from overload, even normal sensory input can feel like “too much.”

    About therapy: you don’t need to know the exact “type” of therapist right now. What matters most is that you describe your experiences clearly — the panic, the emotional crash, the numbness, zoning out, lights feeling too intense, the exhaustion. Any good therapist can work with that. If she feels you need a combination of approaches, she’ll guide you.

    You already did something really helpful by documenting everything for your appointment. That’s exactly what therapists need — your lived experience, not a diagnosis. You’re doing the right things, step by step.

    🌿 Anita

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