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July 12, 2017 at 1:45 pm #157768DanielleParticipant
Anita,
I wanted to talk to you today after my session today where we really focused on my boyfriend. My therapist has come to the conclusion obviously that the content of my obsessions isn’t what is important (my obsessions regarding my relationship) its what the obsessions make me feel. That the problem in my relationship isn’t my boyfriend its me (much like you said multiple times). Now she mentioned that she things a big issue regarding my relationship is that I don’t feel safe because of the past we had. She believes my obsessions are because I am scared to be happy and hurt. It is easier for me to hurt myself, than for someone else to hurt me because I still am in control. Since in the beginning of the relationship I had no security because there were secrets being kept and we would break up very often, its hard for me to find a sense of security in a changed man. I know my boyfriend now wouldn’t do anything he did in the past as he to me he finally had a revelation of our relationship and loves me more than ever and we communicate very well now and were headed in the most amazing direction.
My question is Anita, will this sense of security ever come back? I mean I can only assume if were not breaking up at all in the next year (haven’t in the last 8 months, longest we ever haven’t) and were being open and honest and the trust is getting rebuilt, I find myself being able to eventually feel VERY secure after our relationship is stable and consistent for a long period of time.
Now next session, were going to focus on my safety insecurity. The need to always be in control and not trust others. There have been times in my life where I haven’t felt safe. Growing up in a physically abusive home until I was 4 might just be enough.. or maybe after the movie I watched how I just didn’t feel “safe” with older men because of it, so I chose to avoid all of them. I know if I don’t fix this issue, I am never going to be able to have a relationship with anyone. Please give your input you are always so wise! Thank you! 🙂
July 13, 2017 at 9:38 am #157902AnonymousGuestDear Danielle:
You are very welcome. My input today, following your most recent post: your boyfriend, from all your posts so far, reads like a decent young man who loves you very much. I see a lot of promise in your relationship with him.
The thing about safety and security in this relationship and in life in general: there is no absolute safety or security in life. This is a difficult concept for us, people, as we need safety and security very much. There is only relative safety, relative security. We can only increase the chances of safety. We cannot guarantee it.
We can only increase our chances to live a long, healthy life; we cannot guarantee it. In a similar way, you can only increase your chances to have a long, healthy relationship with your boyfriend- it cannot be guaranteed. Not because he is not a good enough man, or a changed man, but because there are unpredictable factors in life, the future cannot be predicted. It is the nature of life.
The key is for you to be okay with this reality of relative safety, to develop a feeling in you that you will survive a breakup of the relationship, if it was to happen, no matter how painful. It is about you building in you that kind of confidence in your ability to survive and keep living reasonably regardless.
anita
July 14, 2017 at 5:28 pm #158198DanielleParticipantThank you Anita for your always genuine amazing advice. I definitely agree with you that I have to learn that I’m never going to be “safe”, it is something I struggle with having anxiety and all. I want to ask you how you feel about this situation.
So the other day my boyfriend and I were talking about how or phones had gotten stolen multiple times in our life. I told him oh remember when yours got stolen that night at college (while we were broken up that time with the girl) and he goes my phone never got stolen? Just my wallet and my keys that night. He went to sleep. I panicked and panicked omg why did he lie WHERE was he, WHO was he with, if he had his phone…. he could’ve been anywhere. At the time we shared locations and his was off because his phone was off. The thing is I remember at this time that he sent me a police report stating how they had found an iPhone wallet and keys, so I knew he must have forgot. But then it went to…. HE said HE slept at home, but how if he didn’t have his keys? Panicked. I woke him up at 6am saying I’m sorry but are you sure you slept at home if you didn’t have your keys and he’s like idk I probably slept on the couch that was so long ago and I was so drunk that night I don’t know. Then… 5 minutes later he goes ACTUALLY I slept outside of Starbucks on campus I didn’t want to tell you because it’s so embarrassing and I didn’t want you telling anyone.
I know this makes sense because his belongings were found on campus and he said he lost it walking super drunk and he got frustrated because he didn’t know where he was and he just sat down and fell asleep.
But I’m just so annoyed that I didn’t know this before… I know I’ve asked about that night before maybe not in a really really long time but I definitely did. Do you think he has like a lying issue??? Is this even something serious??? Why do I feel like I have the need to know everything about my boyfriend. Like if I don’t know something it’s considered hiding. Like at the time we weren’t together it was so stupid and irrelevant with everything else’s going on I’m sure he didn’t care about it but why does it bother me so much that he kept this from me…
July 15, 2017 at 8:59 am #158260AnonymousGuestDear Danielle:
You are welcome. You asked: ” Do you think he has like a lying issue??? …Why do I feel like I have the need to know everything about my boyfriend. Like if I don’t know something it’s considered hiding”
My understanding: no, he doesn’t have a lying issue. If he did, you wouldn’t have been able to stay with him for as long as you have; he would be in your past long ago. You are so sensitive to lying, that you nit pick everything so much, that the relationship wouldn’t have survived if you had many lies to deal with.
What you have here are naturally occurring inconsistencies because people forget, people don’t pay attention, people are embarrassed and yes, they choose not to tell certain details. It is not reasonable at all to expect a person to be 100% congruent with reality at all times.
For example, when the police questions people who witnessed a traffic accident, they will get different accounts of the same accident from people who have no motive to lie and who are not lying- they just paid attention to different aspects of the accidents, were confused, filled in gaps in memory etc.
To why you care so much- I am going back to when your mother interrogated you about her suspicion following that movie. You wrote that you considered lying to her, remember? Maybe you felt so bad about the thought of lying to your mother, felt you are such a bad person for considering lying to her, that it terrified you and that is why you confess to her and to others about everything, not wanting to be the lying person you considered being. And then, you project it to your boyfriend, afraid that he will be what you were afraid of being yourself. Could it be?
anita
July 22, 2017 at 8:39 am #159576DanielleParticipantGood Morning Anita,
so yesterday I had a really long serious talk with my boyfriend. I told him how unhappy I am with myself and that I hate being this crazy jealous and insecure girlfriend. I told him I know it’s his actions that have caused me to become like this but I’m not sure if I could change back to how I was with or without him. I told him I don’t want to break up but I am not sure if love is enough to stay in a relationship. I told him how I HAVENT really forgiven him for his actions and I am beyond scared to get hurt or surprised again.
I tried to explain to him that my biggest fear in life is someone coming up to me telling me something I didn’t know and me finding out once again that he hasn’t been truthful with me. 8 can’t make myself vulnerable again to let that happen. I told him I can’t stay like this and I’m going to have to do a lot of work on myself and we’re going to have to work together because things cannot stay like this.
He again talked to me reassured me that he’s not lying. He tells me that back then he just didn’t care as much and didn’t think our relationship was going to make it past college. He tells me how he was immature stupid and was being influenced by all the wrong people. He also talked to me about the girl he got involved with and States how he had liked her before me so when she came around he wanted to hang out hook up whatever it may be only because they had a past. He reassure some me that he never once tried to talk to a random girl and that’s never been his personality. I understand why he did what he did and maybe why he lied but I can’t find myself able of full trusting at the moment.
Now this is my favorite part. After talking and me explaining what I’m scared of my boyfriend says it’s not healthy to live in the past and we need to move forward and I completely agree… but then he says…. if you were to find something out later why does it matter if it was in the past? Why are you so stuck in the past?…. this turned my stomach. Is he insinuating that there is something else that happened? Is he trying to understand why I would care to know??? I tried to tell him that LYING about it is in the present and i can’t find out again that he’s been lying or I’m going to be devastated. He says he understands and that it came out wrong, that he’s just saying why does the past matter so much etc. but it’s not the past, it’s the lying and betrayal that I’m scared of. I’m scared to become vulnerable again and LET someone make me happy. I’m not sure he understands or ever will understand. Really in a tough place because I’m not getting better. And I know I’m not getting better because I have gotten into the cycle of asking a question everyday and doubting him and googling and thinking to myself constantly about what he may be lying about and how he’s going to hurt me again. I know I’m miserable because I PUT MYSELF in this cycle and haven’t gotten out, but I’m not sure if I can get out of this cycle being with him. I really don’t want to break up with a great guy because I can’t get myself together.
July 22, 2017 at 9:23 am #159586AnonymousGuestDear Danielle:
You are experiencing great distress. Your distress has to be lowered. Question is, how to do it. It is possible that the right way to do it is to put this relationship on pause or to end it. Possibly the right choice so to reduce your distress. It may not be a long term solution, but it may be what is required for now.
What he told you, your alarm at the possible meaning in what he said, the way he said what he said… that is congruent with you being alarmed with what other people say, like when the therapist told you, I forgot at the moment what it was (it is on page one of this thread)- your anxiety picks on any possible meaning in what people say to signal possible danger.
Again, it is possible that the right thing for you (and for your boyfriend) is to pause this relationship. That may cause you a different kind of anxiety, though. This is a tough situation. What do you think and what is the status of your therapy?
anita
July 22, 2017 at 9:47 am #159594DanielleParticipantAnita,
Thinking of breaking up does cause me a great amount of distress I can’t figure out if it’ll be more distress than staying, it would be a different type of distress. I feel like that would bring me short term relief let’s say for a week, and then I can see myself panicking. Thinking omg did I really just end my relationship because I couldn’t figure myself out, control myself, live in the present, and just forgive….. I find myself thinking how I would leave and just hate myself for it. Not to mention everything else a break up brings with it which is already enough. I would be losing my bestfriend… We have so many exciting things planned for this fall. I would have to find myself again START over START doing things single people do and I’m just not interested… i just want RELIEF. I want to be happy and feel safe and secure and remember that happiness comes from me. I wish I could just realize the extent of what he did which is just so like not HUGE or HORRIBLE and just forgive and let go and enjoy the relationship I have now… I really don’t know what steps to take.
July 22, 2017 at 9:52 am #159596DanielleParticipantI don’t want my OCD and anxiety winning anita. 8 don’t want it to drive me to the point I am at now where the only way I think to relieve my distress would be to break up. I feel as THAT if someone was in my situation without anxiety and OCD, they would’ve been fine by now. They would’ve moved on accepted and that’s it. I hate how much control this has on my thoughts.
July 22, 2017 at 10:09 am #159600AnonymousGuestDear Danielle:
I understand. I suffered from OCD for decades, so I understand. Because I am not living your life, I can see how what your boyfriend would be a non-issue for someone without OCD. He is so very young and was even younger then, and you were broken up and no one is 100% truthful a 100% of the time, not even you.
And yet, this logic of mine, regarding your situation, doesn’t make a dent in your OCD insistence that this is a huge issue.
Reads to me like you are not ready to choose breaking up. Not that I am suggesting that it is the right thing for you to do. What I suggested is that if your distress is just too great, you will need to do what it takes, consider possibilities.
It can get better, Danielle. Really. It is better for me. I still feel the OCD thoughts and, since I did a lot of compulsions in the past (the compulsion part of the Obsessive Compulsive Disorder), I still have urges to perform compulsions, but I don’t. Hardly. It has gotten so much better, and it can be for you too.
For now, take a long walk or a hot bath, something to calm yourself. Do something calming like this when your anxiety spikes.
anita
July 22, 2017 at 10:19 am #159604DanielleParticipantI agree Anita. I am not ready for a breakup. But I am just so over this mentality and constant state of worry and stress that I am cracking and having a mental breakdown. I forgot to mention that we just agreed to sign for an apartment together for our last year of college. I think this has caused my spike and horrible anxiety and emotions because it’s supposed to be a time of excitement.
How can I go about getting out of this mentality? Try a week of no questions no matter what I’m feeling? Noticing that even the worst, if I find something out eventually, I will still be fine and move on. Idk what to tell myself and bring myself back to reality that this isn’t a life or death situation and there is no certainty in life. Idk what to tell myself or stop this cycle that has been happening for months now. I’m losing my mind driving myself crazy.
July 22, 2017 at 10:48 am #159612AnonymousGuestDear Danielle:
As you get used to the idea of getting an apartment together, you will probably feel better. Changes cause anxiety to spike. You have been anxious for a long time and didn’t lose your mind. It only feels like you are going crazy, but you are not. It takes repeatedly calming yourself best you can. Again and again. I wish it wasn’t this difficult for you. I wish life wasn’t as difficult for me as it has been. But it is what it is.
You can survive this, I know it because you already survived a whole lot. Again, it only feels as bad as it does. In reality you are in a loving relationship and over time, if you continue therapy, if it is quality therapy, it will get better.
There are calming guided meditations that may help you- even if you don’t get totally into it, just listening to a calming voice.. or listening to calming music, real calming can help. You can’t eliminate your anxiety today, but you can make it better at this moment and the next moment and that is all you can do today. Try a guided meditation/ calming music, if you will, and let me know how it works.
You can also write a note to yourself when you are calm, a note to read when you are anxious the next time, a sort of letter from the Calm Danielle to the Anxious Danielle.
* will soon be away from the computer.
anita
July 25, 2017 at 6:38 pm #160204DanielleParticipantHi Anita,
just wanted to ask you a question that I’ve been asking myself. Like you already know, the last 2-3 months of my relationship have been VERY distressful and anxious. I have been in a cycle of constant reassurance, constant question asking, constant doubting my relationship, and constantly living in the past, and MONTHS of this have made me very unhappy, which I think anyone that is living in my mentality is going to be unhappy. I need to change and I know that. But sometimes I tell myself do I feel this way because it’s my body speaking to me that I shouldn’t be in this relationship? Or do I feel this way soley because I am doing this to myself and it’s IMPOSSIBLE to be happy with anyone with this mentality…. I like to think “if I change today” if I work towards the day if I resist the compulsions to ask questions, to think of the past, to focus on the past, that I suddenly will be happy and in love and undoubtful again. But something in me scares me that this is a waste of time and I’m not going to get happiness with my boyfriend and my stomach sinks.
Is my OCD/anxiety just trying to get me to believe that my boyfriend is the problem and not me. Like you’ve said and my therapist, the content of my obsessions are useless it’s how they make me feel. Like you’ve said before if I wasn’t obsessing about him or my relationship it would be something else, it’s just always going to be something. Which puts me back in perscpectuve with its ME not HIM and NOT our relationship.
I’m so sick of feeling this way and I’ve been on vacation the last 2 weeks so I haven’t been able to see my therapist. Also my boyfriend is so understanding and nice and he constantly apologizes and TODAY he told me I’m the most beautiful girl in the world and he’s in love with me and he’s so sorry and that he just wants to move on from the past and enjoy life with me and I got so anxious when he told me this, I think I felt guilt that I’m constantly doubting our relationship and he’s there so positive that our relationship is amazing and he says so loving and happy and deals with me like no one else. He’s always doing acts of kindness and telling me and everyone how I’ve changed him so much and he’s so happy with who he’s become and I hate that I’m so focused on the bad. This is probably the worst “funk” I’ve had in our relationship and I’m starting to lose hope that I’ll ever be able to be happy with him again.
July 25, 2017 at 7:13 pm #160206DanielleParticipantI guess what I’m trying to say is I don’t want to give up without being anxious FREE, I don’t think making decisions in an anxious state is a good idea. So I think what I’m asking is if you think it’s a good idea to get myself together see how many days I can go without asking questions, and seeing if that makes me happier. Then see how long I can go without doubting my relationship and living in the past and see if it makes me happy and that way I realize it was only my mindset that was making me miserable not my relationship and not my boyfriend.
July 26, 2017 at 7:24 am #160272AnonymousGuestDear Danielle:
Maybe it is time for you to take sides, make a choice:
Part of you believes that your boyfriend is a bad person and that you should terminate the relationship. Part of you believes he is a good person and you should continue the relationship.
Is he a bad person? Or is he a good, loving person?
Take sides, then stay on that side every day, every moment. Be loyal to the side you choose. Do whatever it takes to be and remain loyal to your choice.
anita
July 26, 2017 at 12:12 pm #160360DanielleParticipantI think he is a good person who made a bad selfish decision. I know I’ve made bad decisions like all of us have.
But this mindset I have had for the last 2 months is just changing my perspective on everything. This summer was supposed to be the most fun summer and this was supposed to be the most fun upcoming fall and I can’t seem to be in the moment or move on from the past. Its a constant nagging feeling when I wake up in the past every single day, how can I possibly be happy? and then when someone has anxiety you question everything. So I ask myself am i still in love? am i just over it? did i get everything i needed from this relationship? was he just a lesson? and as my negative mindset continues, my feelings obviously change. But I think if I wasn’t in this mindset and I wasn’t thinking about the past every single day and bringing up old feelings and mistakes, I think I really would be happy.
Everyone in my situation would be happy and I can’t see that. Everyone that knows whats happened between me and boyfriend still continues to be in awe of how amazing he is. Even my family is like don’t let that one go, and my friends are always saying “you guys make my heart happy” and everyone just loves us and sees our relationship and my friends even tell me like i don’t know how he handles you thats literally the guy meant for you. Like everyone sees it except me because Im constantly clouded with anxiety.
I have the most accepting and loving boyfriend and Ill never understand why I can’t just FORGIVE. I think all these feelings are caused by resentment and really not truly forgiving him. Do you have any advice on how to TRULY forgive someone? He’s told me constantly how sorry he is and the reasoning behind it ( I didn’t think our relationship was really going to last past college, I didn’t know if I even wanted to be in a relationship, I was really selfish and immature, and I’ve lied to people around me my entire life without even caring, but you changed me and I promise to never be that guy again and you’re the only girl I want to marry etc). Like he is giving me everything I want to hear, he’s staying true to his word, he’s changed his actions, whats holding me back? What is holding me back from forgiving? I honestly don’t even know if I have EVER truly forgiven someone… when I have had friends that have done me wrong I never look back I never forgive I simply just take them out of my life, even family members sometimes… I tell myself all the time that God put my boyfriend in my life to make me a better person, a less selfish person, a more loving person, and a person that accepts that people have flaws and just like God forgives all of us I need to learn how to forgive my boyfriend…but why is this so hard? Why is there so much hurt? Why can’t i see the situation for what it is and not some crazy horrible deceitful affair or something. Why am I seeing this situation in such a dramatic bad light?
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