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  • #221947
    Dario
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    Here is my story,

    I met a guy back in 2015 while I was traveling to Chicago for work, and while I never thought we had a chance… we ended up dating. Like every other relationship, we had issues we tried to work on. I think we both make mistakes and I wish I was more careful as to how I dealt with our issues. He had a lot of trust issues (not about loyalty) but rather petty stuff, sadly that affected our relationship big time. When we broke up, I thought we would try and fix things the next day but that didn’t happen. I suffered a lot for the first few months as I was still in love with him. I move to a different country as well right after our break up. I asked him about 5 months later if he would consider getting back to me which he said no. I have dated people since then and enjoyed myself as well as gotten over him, I am no longer in love with him but I do love him. We decided to stay friends about a year after we broke up. We have hung out often and travelled together. Almost two years after we broke up, here I am looking at him and wondering “why did I let him go do easily?” I truly love him and I believe he is the one. I always saw us getting married, buying a house and having kids. He is an amazing guy, sadly he isnt interested. What confuses me a lot is that we tend to get very close, he takes care of me and helps me but when he gets too close he backs up and gets a little defensive. Last night I told him that even though I have moved on, I would like for us to try again as I think we gave up easily. I put my heart out there and he rejected me as he had before. He told me the person that loved me is no longer there and he couldn’t be that person again. It breaks my heart because I feel sometimes that he does love me and wants to get back together but then he blocks it. Am I reading him wrong? How can I be in love with somebody after two years of breaking up?

    #222001
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Dario:

    He has been consistent in his rejection of a relationship with you, consistent and clear: “He told me the person that loved me is no longer there and he couldn’t be that person again”; can’t be more clear than that.

    You wrote, “I truly love him and believe he is the one. I always saw us getting married….”, and you asked: “Am I reading him wrong?” I would say, reads to me, that he does care for you but does not love you the way he used to, and so, yes, you are wrong to believe somewhat that he loves you in a way that would motivate him to restart a relationship with you of the kind that can lead to marriage.

    Your feeling that he is the one, is just that, a feeling, your feeling.

    “How can I be in love with somebody after two years of breaking up?” – it can be, happened before to other people and it didn’t mean to them, to many of them, I figure, that there was a meaning to it, something like: I am not over him because it is meant to be, fate, or such.

    I suppose the relationships you did start after the breakup were not that good, so what you had with him shines in comparison. Am I correct?

    (And his issues of trust, I wonder what those are? There may be something important there that I didn’t consider in my answer to you at this point)

    anita

    #222059
    Brandy
    Participant

    Hi Dario,

    This may not be the advice you’re looking for but I’ll give it to you anyway. Yes, I believe you’re misreading him. The reason he gets defensive may be because whenever he helps you (as friends often do for each other) you misread his intentions, thinking he may want more, and he picks up on this. Not everyone who loves being around you and who cares about you and wants to help you also wants to be romantically involved with you. He has told you more than once that he doesn’t. Believe him. Respect his decision. Don’t make the mistake of thinking that you know what he wants better than he does.

    You ask: How can I be in love with somebody after two years of breaking up? Maybe because you still hold on to the hope that he will one day love you back. Once you accept that it is not going to happen, I believe you will begin to get over him and move on.

    Sorry, Dario. You seem like a nice person. The right guy for you is out there. You’ll find him.

    B

    #222491
    Ankita
    Participant

    Hi Dario,

    Are you low on self-esteem? This person rejects you constantly yet you overlook his attitude.

    I don’t think you are misreading him. He seems like a great guy but… saying “The person that he loved is no longer there and he can’t be the same person.” shows him to be too cautious and unwilling to take a chance.

    The person that he loved has come back more mature, more sensitive, more supportive who would like to resolve the issues there were. How can he not like to be with this new person?

    If you are clear about your feelings towards him (meaning you are not being melodramatic or fluffing things up) then he seems to be the confused one. He is not valuing that you are there. It will hurt a lot (a lot) but you are going to have to believe that you don’t need him. You can do things on your own. Perhaps he will realize your value if you leave. But you have to be prepared for a future without him. Who knows, he might come back to at least talk if nothing else, but if he doesn’t, then also you’re doing fine. You need a lot of inner strength.

     

     

    #222493
    Ankita
    Participant

    By the way, it’s nice how you expressed your feelings. You didn’t think about rejection or anything. You said you liked him and would like to be in a relationship again. Anyone would like to hear that.

    Let’s not point fingers at him. He seems nice but you are important. You can add value. You contain some sort of strength and courage because you asked him again, you are bearing the rejection. Moreover you aren’t blaming him or getting annoyed at him.

    Don’t beat yourself up. Don’t expect from him, don’t find a new guy. Build your inner strength. You need you.

    • This reply was modified 5 years, 7 months ago by Ankita.
    #222499
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Sorry that you’re going through all of this, Dario. It can be frightening to be vulnerable and say how you feel. You took the risk of being vulnerable: that demonstrates strength and courage.

    I agree with the other participants that this guy has clearly expressed that he’s not interested. As much as that hurts, please remind yourself that that doesn’t mean you’re not good enough or less worthy of love. On the contrary.

    There could be many reasons why he’s not interested. However, if you try to pinpoint the reason, watch out—you’ll most likely fall down the rabbit hole on an eternal search! Oftentimes, we think that it has to do with us, but in reality it has to do with THEM.

    It’d be wiser to follow Brandy’s advice of accepting the end of the relationship. Take the time to mourn for this loss. It’s natural to feel rejected, empty and sad—let yourself feel these emotions fully. If you resist them, you’ll feel worse.

    Be kind to yourself if/when you think about him. It’s been scientifically proven that being in love is like being addicted to drugs: https://thoughtcatalog.com/lorenzo-jensen-iii/2015/03/19-scientifically-proven-ways-love-affects-our-bodies-like-a-drug/ Knowing this has helped me judge myself less and move on faster.

    Take care of yourself by doing activities you enjoy like sports, taking a bath or dancing to your favorite music. Give yourself the love you’re looking for, Dario.

    #222641
    Ankita
    Participant

    I am unable to edit my response otherwise I would correct the error I made.

    The guy is being indirect but he is saying he isn’t interested. You need to involve him less in your life. He isn’t seeing your worth. It will take time but give yourself a break. Do other things.

    #224039
    John
    Participant

    Hi Dario,

    I felt compelled to reply to your post as I am in a somewhat similar situation having recently ended a relationship with a man whom I loved enough–and still love enough–to spend the rest of my life with. Alas, he does not share these feelings, and so he made the decision to end our relationship.

    I expressed my desire to stay together and told him I thought what we had was rare, special, and unique. While he admitted to sharing my affections, he also expressed that he no longer had interest in continuing to participate in a relationship that did not meet his needs and one that he didn’t see changing without significant work from both parties (which he also felt incapable of committing to at this point in his life).

    I didn’t understand his reasoning (still don’t),  but I quickly discovered that probing his logic did not solve anything and only seemed to aggravate further an already difficult situation. I still love him. I’d still like to be with him. But I am also learning to accept his decision and–as best I can–to move forward with a life that will no longer include the man whom I still love.

    To that end, I would like to share with you a list of items that I have found useful in learning to let go and accept that which–to my heart, at least–is unacceptable (I playfully call it my “letting go for dummies” list):

    1. If you can’t let go, acknowledge your intention to want to be able to let go. There is a subtle but tangible difference between fixating and acknowledging/accepting where you are.
    2. Try to see letting go as a celebration of the love you have for the other person. I know, I know! Giant eye-roll–especially if you are dealing with the intensity of the pain from loss. But intense feelings are what render this method particularly effective.

      See, I have all of these feelings about the breakup, right? This isn’t my decision. This isn’t what I want. I want him. I want us. I want everything to be okay. I want to wake up in the morning knowing that he’s mine and go to sleep each night smiling at the thought of the next time I will see his face.

      Unfortunately, these feelings are not mutual, which is why we currently find ourselves in the throes of this unpleasant situation in the first place. My once-partner has decided this relationship is no longer right for him, and I have to respect that decision; I could, I suppose, choose to ignore it or not acknowledge it, but by now I know that fighting it will only prolong the pain, suffering, and sadness that I need to experience as part of my healing process. Alas, my love for him will motivate my choice to respect his decision and to honor his journey. I know love isn’t selfish, so I won’t try to make him stay in a place that doesn’t foster and support his emotional, spiritual, and physical growth and wellbeing.

      Every time my feelings of loss surface, I will remember that honoring his needs is a testament to my love–a celebration of the wisdom, strength, and maturity that live inside of me. I will simultaneously acknowledge the profound sadness that I experience when these feelings of loss surface. I will allow myself to grieve without blaming him or myself for my pain. I will try to see this suffering as a part of my gift of loving another person so deeply and so completely that the pain of losing him is a natural part of my life experience. I will try to remember that I will love again.

    3. Re-condition your cognitive and emotional responses. Each time I think of my ex-partner and remember what we had and feel pain and loss, I will use my agency to actively interrupt the process and say to myself:

      “He broke up with you, boo. He doesn’t want to be with you. It isn’t your fault, but it’s over.”

      This must be done from a place of self-compassion rather than self-judgment or self-criticism (hence my use of the term “boo” rather than “idiot” or “dummy”). If you can’t muster self-compassion, ask a friend to say these words to you when you bring up the subject of your ex or your recent breakup. If that’s too uncomfortable, imagine saying these words to a close friend or family member in a similar situation.

      Speak the words out loud–to yourself, to your cat, to a good friend. Acknowledge your feelings and be gentle with yourself, especially the first few times you speak the words. Cry. Be held. Do not try to deny yourself the catharsis of the embodied experience of your loss, pain, and suffering.

    4. Analyze and learn; try to avoid fixating. Know the difference between analysis/healthy reflection (and being analytical) and fixation.

      Don’t attempt to mindread (because you can’t); doing so will only reinforce maladaptive narratives and patterns of behavior. There’s no amount of thinking that can resolve the situation to your satisfaction. No matter how many times you replay some fateful conversation/moment from your relationship in your mind, the outcome won’t change.

      If possible, put your pain aside for a moment and consider your ex-partner’s agency and his ability to make decisions for himself. Listen to what you’ve been told, and then listen again. Repeat this process until you’ve not only listened but have actually heard and understood what is being communicated.

      Seek answers if you must, but do so with the knowledge that, when emotions run high, as they tend to do in matters of the heart when two people want opposing things, answers frequently beget only more questions.

      We treat others with dignity when actually hear them, respect their decisions, and honor their agency through our actions. This is an act of love. Aspire towards grace in the face of the indignity of heartbreak.

      Widen your scope. See all of the many areas of your life and your world that could benefit greatly from your enduring capacity for love, which–if anything like mine!–was heretofore narrowly focused on your ex-partner–friends, family, pets… the world needs your love, intense and so firmly rooted in the desire to nurture and to create meaningful connections, even if the duration of such connections is brief and fleeting. Find new ways to express your love while acknowledging the capacity and scope of your existing ones; see that one is not better or worse than the others, but that they are all extensions of your innate goodness.

    5. Pull yourself out of fixation. Learn your weak spots and, in one of your better moments, brainstorm what to do should you become obsessed with thoughts of the relationship. These methods tend to be particular from one individual to the next, but some general ideas include taking a mindful minute (calibrate in advance so that you know how many breaths comprise a mindful minute for you), listening to music, going on a walk, calling a friend or loved one, caring for a pet, stretching, checking a small task off your to-do list (e.g., grocery shopping–ones that are related to self-care can be especially effective when you’re hurting), signing off social media for the rest of the evening, etc. You can always return to the thoughts, if you like, when the intensity of the emotions has subsided, and you feel you are able to engage–but not necessarily identify with–them.

    These strategies are neither exhaustive nor perfect, but they are helping me deal with the incredibility and indignity of heartbreak, and I am beginning to move on even though this still isn’t what I want. I hope you find them useful. If not, perhaps just reading that someone else in the world is experiencing what you’re experiencing might help.

    I am sorry for you pain, and I hope that you will take steps that only you can take in order to begin to alleviate it.

    I wish you the best on your journey and all the love, joy, and happiness that you deserve.

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