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July 9, 2023 at 11:05 pm #420749SereneWolfParticipant
Kon’nichiwa Tee,
How was your weekend?
thatās the only wayā¦ if I donāt accept the limitations and the hardships, and only focus on the negative, it would be much less bearable. So looking at it with a dose of optimism is the only thing that helps (besides exercise, of course)
Thatās good! Also thatās why youāre an awesome wise mentor! š
Okay, so sheās one sturdy cat and you feel sheās doing fine, wherever she isā¦
Yup.Yeah, she is probably hoping she can turn you around and make you fall in love with her. I did suggest a few posts ago (before you told me about your job loss) to stay in the relationship but work on your fear of commitment. I understand that right now, finding a new job is a priority and youāre only focusing on that. But do you think you would want to work on your fear of commitment some time down the line, or you want to remain an eternal bachelor, so to speak?
Well you do have a point and Iām doing like a spiral always just running away from commitment like this, and I think now Iām just using bigger excuse to run away from this. I don’t know when I’ll be emotionally “available.”
But another thing is also that I donāt want to settle down so soon I feel like if things go well, like my other friends 2-3 years in relationship and then get married and get kids and then have your family responsibilities. Then Iād missed out on enjoying my 20ās like adventure travel and etcā¦
Well yes, because she refuses to admit any fault of her own. Itās easier to blame other people. Thatās a hallmark of a toxic personā¦
Right, I get it now, main thing is that always see otherās fault but not their own. But few days ago I talked to my father on the call and we talked like an hour (Which is very rare) We were talking about my little brother and how he doesnāt listen to him or talk to him rarely, He be like I gave all of you freedom to do anything you want (Which is somewhat right) and during the call he also said that he also could made mistakes and I was like yeah weāre all humans and Then told him not to worry and Iāll talk to my brother
When you say you made some bad choices in the past, I guess youāre talking about dropping out of university and graduating only later? Well, weāve talked about that before: you did it because you wanted to free yourself from your fatherās and grandfatherās guilt-tripping and you wanted to be independent. And so you had to work to support yourself. Which lead to the delay in your studies.
Now if you keep blaming yourself for that, youāll never be free. Because you graduating a few years later doesnāt mean youāre less capable or less competent. You agreed with me that youāre actually a high achiever and resilient. So please stop telling yourself that old story that youāre a failure and lagging behind. Youāre right on time and you can grab the best opportunity, if you keep a positive self-image and stay optimistic.
Yes I agree but the thing is that I still think I couldāve done better, and I know I may havenāt enough mature to make proper decision in past but even though Now Iām much more capable thereās still old fear!
Well, youāre 29. Youāll be at the prime of your power for at least the next 20 years. So there will be plenty of opportunities for both career success and for traveling. But I guess when youāre caught in that fear (of making mistakes, or missing out), itās hard to hear the rational arguments. Because I think your FOMO is a part of your inner critic. So itās something that youād need to actively defend yourself against and shut down that voice, because itās a blind alley.
Iām freshly 28! Donāt make me older please š and Yeah I agree but this actively defending is seems hard! Is there any more efficient way? Like it happens in background or subconsciously etc? I’m being lazy I know Heck I even have time yet I’m not putting it for right use.. I should do that
I think itās a smart decision to start applying for a broader range of positions, and then switch after a while to what you really want. As for the job market, I really donāt know, it depends on what sector youāre in. If youāre in IT, it shouldnāt be that affected, although it seems that new product development might be stalling, due to people not having enough moneyā¦
Yeah so I have two interviews soon, and one HR was like this is an entry level position I believe youāre too senior for this but still if you want we can discuss further… and I do like this position even though itās entry level itās a really good pay even more than manager level pay. So Iām thinking talking to him like Iām more interested in this position for growth opportunity later onā¦ But if you have better suggestion you can suggest me
July 13, 2023 at 5:01 am #420798TeeParticipantHi SereneWolf,
sorry for the delay, I am on holidays and spending less time at the computer.
Thatās good! Also thatās why youāre an awesome wise mentor!
Thank you! Although I have to say, these last few days have been rough health-wise, so it was hard to stay optimistic. But then it eventually got better again, and I can keep on keeping on…
Well you do have a point and Iām doing like a spiral always just running away from commitment like this, and I think now Iām just using bigger excuse to run away from this. I donāt know when Iāll be emotionally āavailable.ā
I guess when you start working on those attachment wounds and the fear of intimacy and vulnerability. When you heal enough so you won’t feel threatened by being in a relationship. Because right now, you probably fear that you’ll lose your freedom, independence, ability to do what you enjoy doing, right? Maybe you’re also afraid of being judged, so you feel you need to perform and meet certain expectations, and can’t just be yourself in the relationship?
But another thing is also that I donāt want to settle down so soon I feel like if things go well, like my other friends 2-3 years in relationship and then get married and get kids and then have your family responsibilities. Then Iād missed out on enjoying my 20ās like adventure travel and etcā¦
Sure, it’s totally okay to be in a relationship with someone who is on the same page regarding settling down and having children. So you don’t feel pressured into something you don’t want to. Because having children is indeed a great responsibility and it will change your life.
But you said your girlfriend isn’t really rushing to get married and have children. So it seems she isn’t the cause of stress but it’s more like that you’re telling yourself that being in a relationship means needing to settle down and have children within the 2-3 year time span. So it’s more like the false belief and the expectation that you are putting on yourself is what causes you pressure, rather than your girlfriend putting pressure on you, right?
He be like I gave all of you freedom to do anything you want (Which is somewhat right)
Hmm, well, he didn’t stop you when you moved away from home at the age of 16. In that sense he gave you freedom. But him letting you move didn’t mean he approved of it, or that he approved of your actions in general. Because you said he was very critical and judgmental of you, and he only approved of you when you behaved exactly the way he expected of you. The moment you failed to meet his impossible expectations (e.g. when you failed to give him the proper tool who was asking for, or you failed to be the best student in your school) – he would judge you harshly.
So I’d say he never gave you the freedom to be yourself – even if he gave you the freedom to move away from home.
during the call he also said that he also could made mistakes
I don’t know if he meant to say that he might have made mistakes in your (and your siblings’) upbringing? If he is willing to admit that he might have made mistakes, that’s already something. Because my mother isn’t willing to admit that.
Iām freshly 28! Donāt make me older please
Haha, you said you were in your late 20s, so I put the highest possible age. But if you’re even younger than that, then my words have an even bigger weight! š Because you’re really young and the entire life is ahead of you.
and Yeah I agree but this actively defending is seems hard! Is there any more efficient way? Like it happens in background or subconsciously etc? Iām being lazy I know Heck I even have time yet Iām not putting it for right use.. I should do that
You see this last sentence? Your inner critic used the opportunity to judge you for being lazy and not working on actively defending yourself from…. the inner critic himself! You see that mechanism? The inner critic uses everything to turn things against you, even my advice on how to get rid of it! So just pay attention to that and notice every time you scold yourself for anything. Because every such scolding is the inner critic in action.
Yeah so I have two interviews soon, and one HR was like this is an entry level position I believe youāre too senior for this but still if you want we can discuss furtherā¦ and I do like this position even though itās entry level itās a really good pay even more than manager level pay. So Iām thinking talking to him like Iām more interested in this position for growth opportunity later onā¦ But if you have better suggestion you can suggest me
If you like the position and it pays well even at the entry level, and it gives you an opportunity for career advancement – then sure, go for it! The only question is – how come the entry level pays more than the manager level somewhere else? Have you checked if this company is legit and there are no scams involved? If they are legit, if there’s nothing fishy, then I’d say take it, by all means.
July 17, 2023 at 7:52 am #420857SereneWolfParticipantHi Tee,
sorry for the delay, I am on holidays and spending less time at the computer.
Thatās fine! I hope youāre enjoying your holidays well š
Thank you! Although I have to say, these last few days have been rough health-wise, so it was hard to stay optimistic. But then it eventually got better again, and I can keep on keeping onā¦
I got fever too (2-3 Days) and damn thatās not easy, and for your health itās much complex and bigger so I understand, and I admire your strength to keeping on.
I guess when you start working on those attachment wounds and the fear of intimacy and vulnerability. When you heal enough so you wonāt feel threatened by being in a relationship. Because right now, you probably fear that youāll lose your freedom, independence, ability to do what you enjoy doing, right?
This? Yes I fear that!
Maybe youāre also afraid of being judged, so you feel you need to perform and meet certain expectations, and canāt just be yourself in the relationship?
But I donāt think Iām afraid of being judged anymore in the relationship because nothing is more energy draining than act as per like someoneās expectations person by person. Thatās like people pleasing but out of relationship situation I still have some people pleasing tendencies.
But you said your girlfriend isnāt really rushing to get married and have children. So it seems she isnāt the cause of stress but itās more like that youāre telling yourself that being in a relationship means needing to settle down and have children within the 2-3 year time span. So itās more like the false belief and the expectation that you are putting on yourself is what causes you pressure, rather than your girlfriend putting pressure on you, right?
Sheās not rushing because she knows Iām not serious like her into this relationship, When we met for our second date, she did mention that sheās tired and she wants to settle down. Because even she thinks finding love isnāt easy at all. She literally sends me cute baby videos on IG time to time! And she also suggested adopting a kitten together when my cat ran away, I may have been taking it the wrong way, but you know what that means right? But yeah these are just my assumptions… But saying indirect āyesā to those things means taking things next level and going into the pool!
So Iād say he never gave you the freedom to be yourself ā even if he gave you the freedom to move away from home.
Hmm so itās like for his own ego and comfort?
I donāt know if he meant to say that he might have made mistakes in your (and your siblingsā) upbringing? If he is willing to admit that he might have made mistakes, thatās already something. Because my mother isnāt willing to admit that.
Well like Iāve told you he did said sorry to my grandmother when we had a fight in the past. Not directly to me but still yeah
Haha, you said you were in your late 20s, so I put the highest possible age. But if youāre even younger than that, then my words have an even bigger weight!Ā Ā Because youāre really young and the entire life is ahead of you.
But you know how days are going? Like a blink of an eye! I feel so nostalgic watching old anime it feels like yesterday when I used to watch those things. Also I do have to mention that I guess Iām using that to sooth myself from this really fast paced AI world.
Your inner critic used the opportunity to judge you for being lazy and not working on actively defending yourself fromā¦. the inner critic himself! You see that mechanism?
But but isnāt that rational and right? š
The inner critic uses everything to turn things against you, even my advice on how to get rid of it! So just pay attention to that and notice every time you scold yourself for anything. Because every such scolding is the inner critic in action.
Hmm I guess Iāll have to try more
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If you like the position and it pays well even at the entry level, and it gives you an opportunity for career advancement ā then sure, go for it! The only question is ā how come the entry level pays more than the manager level somewhere else? Have you checked if this company is legit and there are no scams involved? If they are legit, if thereās nothing fishy, then Iād say take it, by all means.
Thanks and Theyāre legal and itās not a scam, Itās paying well because they raised lot of funding recently even during this time! So, they have a lot of confidence for their product and I like that. And I even researched for their salary data and theyāre paying Product person 4x higher!
August 21, 2023 at 10:40 am #421378SereneWolfParticipantHi Tee,
You did say your heath wasn’t improving. So just wanted to check on you. I hope you’re okay.Get well soon š
August 22, 2023 at 3:10 am #421577TeeParticipantHi SereneWolf,
thanks for checking on me. I had a long vacation and some of my main symptoms luckily improved (yay! š ). But now I have some eye problems, which make it hard for me to use the computer. I am going to have that checked with the doctor, but in the meanwhile I am taking it easy and letting my eyes rest as much as possible. That’s why I haven’t replied to you – sorry.
How have you been? How is your job search?
August 22, 2023 at 11:52 am #421579SereneWolfParticipantHi Tee!
Yay! I’m really glad! I guess long vacation did helped in some ways :D, Where did you travelled if you don’t mind me asking.
Yes that’s right let your eyes rest. No need to say sorry.I’m still being resilient and applying for jobs.
October 15, 2023 at 11:27 pm #423154TeeParticipantHi SereneWolf,
I am sorry for disappearing again. I had some new health issues and a related health anxiety, and I felt pretty bad. Now I am feeling better and have learned to cope with that anxiety, I hope.
How have you been? Both on the job search front, and in your relationship?
October 16, 2023 at 10:27 pm #423465SereneWolfParticipantOla Tee! š
Itās totally fine. Iām really glad to that youāre feeling better. Really happy to hear back from you. I do know that youāre very strong & resilient and I admire that. But I hope you feel even better.
For Job letās say Iām still being resilient and applying. There were days when I felt like absolute trash. Because I wasnāt seeing any results. And I was worried for financial pressure too. So like finding a job and on top of that financial pressure. Thatās the only two things that rendered in my head. Made me sick to my stomach. It was even harder to enjoy simple things (Which I normally enjoy) But Itās getting better.
About relationship. Because of this much pressure I totally made her distant from myself. She did try but I wasnāt just in right mental state. Even now Iām just not thinking about it that much. We rarely talk. I even told her that it’s better that she finds someone more suitable according to her needs. But she said no. So now we’re like a non-committed friends who kiss sometimes.
And Itās been one and a half month Iām not seeing my therapist. She got some health issues too. Mostly her eyes and throat. Which is very crucial for online sessions you know. And she did suggest me another therapist but I didnāt liked her that much so I stopped. So I talked to her and she said she believes that Iām more than capable of doing self-healing and Iām improved much faster rate than she imagined. So told me keep working on some exercises and working on healing my emotional wounds and whenever I need a like a push, sheāll help me.
What about you? How youāve been doing?
October 17, 2023 at 1:30 am #423466TeeParticipantHey SereneWolf,
thanks for your quick reply and a warm welcome, I appreciate it!
I do know that youāre very strong & resilient and I admire that.
Actually, I am only now starting to learn to be more resilient. These health issues made me feel very fragile physically, but I’ve realized I am also fragile emotionally. For example, believing that I’d never heal, worrying, catastrophizing etc. And I’ve learned that those are all symptoms of health anxiety. So now I’ve learned how to cope with that anxiety, and also to start seeing myself as more resilient (physically) than I thought I was.
So nowadays, whenever I have a flare-up of my symptoms, I don’t start despairing and thinking my life is over, but I let it pass. And within a few days, my symptoms do subside and I feel better again. So this is how I am learning resilience… by tolerating physical pain š But it’s been hard, a very hard lesson.. but anyway, that’s life, I hope I am now stronger because of it š
For Job letās say Iām still being resilient and applying. There were days when I felt like absolute trash. Because I wasnāt seeing any results. And I was worried for financial pressure too. So like finding a job and on top of that financial pressure. Thatās the only two things that rendered in my head. Made me sick to my stomach. It was even harder to enjoy simple things (Which I normally enjoy) But Itās getting better.
So you ended up not applying for that entry level job, which was paying well and looked promising?
I am sorry it’s been so stressful for you. Are the opportunities so limited or you are somewhat picky, looking for a very specific thing?
About relationship. Because of this much pressure I totally made her distant from myself. She did try but I wasnāt just in right mental state.
I see. It just occurred to me that when you are under stress and feeling bad about something (like with the job search at the moment), you don’t need anyone around to support you. Like, a romantic relationship isn’t a resource for you, but a burden, it seems? And so you tend to get rid of the relationship, to feel less burdened, right?
Even now Iām just not thinking about it that much. We rarely talk. I even told her that itās better that she finds someone more suitable according to her needs. But she said no. So now weāre like a non-committed friends who kiss sometimes.
It seems she really likes you and is waiting for you. I am kind of rooting for the two of you too š Because she seems like a good girl… But anyway, you’ll see. Those things cannot (and shouldn’t) be forced, that’s for sure.
And Itās been one and a half month Iām not seeing my therapist. She got some health issues too. Mostly her eyes and throat. Which is very crucial for online sessions you know. And she did suggest me another therapist but I didnāt liked her that much so I stopped.
Oh I am sorry about that. I also had some eye issues, and it was very frightening, but I did get better, thankfully. I hope your therapist will get better too.
So I talked to her and she said she believes that Iām more than capable of doing self-healing and Iām improved much faster rate than she imagined. So told me keep working on some exercises and working on healing my emotional wounds and whenever I need a like a push, sheāll help me.
Are you doing those exercises? Are you in touch with her? I mean, is she available at least from time to time? Because self-healing is hard, although not impossible.
So told me keep working on some exercises and working on healing my emotional wounds
I’ve heard once a great concept, which is that emotional wounds happened in a relationship, and that’s why we also need a relationship to heal them. A therapeutic relationship primarily. Or we need to have a strong sense of self-compassion, which is like having an inner therapist rather than the inner critic. Unless we have developed a strong inner coach/therapist/good parent figure, emotional healing is hard to do on our own.
So I think it would make sense to try to find another therapist – someone you do have a good rapport with. Unless you’re feeling you’re making progress on your own too?
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October 20, 2023 at 12:33 am #423577SereneWolfParticipantHey Tee,
Actually, I am only now starting to learn to be more resilient. These health issues made me feel very fragile physically, but Iāve realized I am also fragile emotionally. For example, believing that Iād never heal, worrying, catastrophizing etc. And Iāve learned that those are all symptoms of health anxiety. So now Iāve learned how to cope with that anxiety, and also to start seeing myself as more resilient (physically) than I thought I was.
So nowadays, whenever I have a flare-up of my symptoms, I donāt start despairing and thinking my life is over, but I let it pass. And within a few days, my symptoms do subside and I feel better again. So this is how I am learning resilienceā¦ by tolerating physical pain š But itās been hard, a very hard lesson.. but anyway, thatās life, I hope I am now stronger because of it š
Oh actually I didnāt even know thereās a specifically thing like health anxiety exist. But Iām glad you found a way to cope with that anxiety. I guess we always find a way one way or another. And I do like your approach because in your situation combining with physical pain so itās easy to feel fragile and anxious! so Keep up your good work š
So you ended up not applying for that entry level job, which was paying well and looked promising?
I did apply but unfortunately didnāt get selected. Someone with even higher experience than me started working there with less salary package. But I didnāt sulk over that because it was months ago and I thought maybe that person needed that job more than me.
I am sorry itās been so stressful for you. Are the opportunities so limited or you are somewhat picky, looking for a very specific thing?
Itās the IT job market in general. There arenāt even enough jobs open, on top of that layoffs. And what Iām looking for is working in HealthTech or Sustainability sector. Because I think itās meaningful for me and also impactful.
Luckily just Thursday I passed initial interview for this Healthtech company. Itās really good position. Took me really long to get selected for a position like that. Itās also fully remote. And enough pay that I can also move to Europe without any issues.
Now I have next technical interview on Next Wednesday. but I have high hope for this as well as this crazy fear and anxiety that what if I donāt perform well and donāt get it? Itās a really good opportunity that I just donāt want to lose. And itās just not even letting me practice with good focus. Because this one has multiple stage of interviews after interview on Wednesday there will be two more interviews. And I Need to ace all of this interviews.
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I see. It just occurred to me that when you are under stress and feeling bad about something (like with the job search at the moment), you donāt need anyone around to support you. Like, a romantic relationship isnāt a resource for you, but a burden, it seems? And so you tend to get rid of the relationship, to feel less burdened, right?
When I talked about this my therapist while ago she said at difficult time thatās what exactly you need, someone who really supports you and she told me try to stop always being self-dependent. But tbh Iām not able to do that for now. My focus for job is sharp. Because currently itās a necessity.
It seems she really likes you and is waiting for you. I am kind of rooting for the two of you too š Because she seems like a good girlā¦ But anyway, youāll see. Those things cannot (and shouldnāt) be forced, thatās for sure.
Youāre right and like you know we discussed before like I need to be more hopeFul romantic not hopeLess romantic. But I donāt know why but Iām still very hopeless about love. On top of that because of this kind of thinking Iām already feeling like Iād end up alone and no one would love me with their whole heart if Iām keep rejecting love like this.
Because tbh I do really like her but I just donāt see future in her even though sheās really good I just donāt know whyā¦
Oh I am sorry about that. I also had some eye issues, and it was very frightening, but I did get better, thankfully. I hope your therapist will get better too.
I hope so. Because with another therapist itās all from 0 to 1. And more than that Itās the good relationship you know. Because I want good connection too.
Are you doing those exercises? Are you in touch with her? I mean, is she available at least from time to time? Because self-healing is hard, although not impossible.
Iām not able to doing those exercises daily tbh. But yes Iām in touch with her. And just look her dedication she said we can communicate over written letters like the old times. And she wonāt even charge me any fees for that. She also believes everything happens for a reason, and this would help her do more writing which she always wanted to do in her teenage years, How would I think about changing a therapist like this?
Self-healing is indeed not easy. But at the end of the day therapists are only like a guide but all the inner work we have to do by ourselves so..
Iāve heard once a great concept, which is that emotional wounds happened in a relationship, and thatās why we also need a relationship to heal them. A therapeutic relationship primarily. Or we need to have a strong sense of self-compassion, which is like having an inner therapist rather than the inner critic. Unless we have developed a strong inner coach/therapist/good parent figure, emotional healing is hard to do on our own.
So I think it would make sense to try to find another therapist ā someone you do have a good rapport with. Unless youāre feeling youāre making progress on your own too?
Thatās indeed a great concept and I guess Iām trying to bring that inner therapist/parent figure more. For example. Uncle Iroh or Krishnaji (Lord Krishna). And thatās why Iām blaming myself much less than I used to.
Well I do feel like Iām making a progress but for different perspective I wouldnāt mind you telling what do you think my progress so far? Because obviously you continuously contributing a huge part in my healing journey. Because we started communicating long before I even started therapy.
October 20, 2023 at 8:40 am #423587TeeParticipantHi SereneWolf,
Oh actually I didnāt even know thereās a specifically thing like health anxiety exist
Yeah, it’s actually a nicer and truer version of the term “hypochondriac”. I don’t feel like a hypochondriac, and it’s hurtful when someone hints I might be, because I do have real and debilitating health issues. However, I do tend to worry a lot and feel less resilient than I really am, and this leads to taking some of my symptoms too seriously and catastrophizing about them. So it’s like there is a real reason why I am concerned about my health, but still, I don’t need to worry that much. This excessive worrying is a part of health anxiety, and luckily I am learning how to deal with it and calm myself down.
I did apply but unfortunately didnāt get selected. Someone with even higher experience than me started working there with less salary package. But I didnāt sulk over that because it was months ago and I thought maybe that person needed that job more than me.
Oh I am sorry you didn’t get that job. But you handled it well – not stressing about it, but accepting it and not feeling “less than” because of it. Well done, SereneWolf!
And what Iām looking for is working in HealthTech or Sustainability sector. Because I think itās meaningful for me and also impactful.
Yes, they both are super important sectors, and sustainability is close to my heart too. It’s good that you’re looking for jobs in fields that are meaningful to you!
Luckily just Thursday I passed initial interview for this Healthtech company. Itās really good position. Took me really long to get selected for a position like that. Itās also fully remote. And enough pay that I can also move to Europe without any issues.
It sounds good! Congratulations on passing the first round!
Now I have next technical interview on Next Wednesday. but I have high hope for this as well as this crazy fear and anxiety that what if I donāt perform well and donāt get it? Itās a really good opportunity that I just donāt want to lose. And itās just not even letting me practice with good focus. Because this one has multiple stage of interviews after interview on Wednesday there will be two more interviews. And I Need to ace all of this interviews.
I understand that you really want this job. And the pressure to get it. But unfortunately it increases your anxiety, which then makes it harder during the interview. Perhaps the first thing you’d need to do it put the perfectionist pressure off yourself: “I Need to ace all of this interviews.”
No, you don’t need to ace them. You don’t need to be perfect, which was the requirement your father has put on you. You only need to be yourself – which is GOOD ENOUGH.
Because honestly, without flattering you, Serenewolf, you are good enough. You are more than qualified, you have the experience, the knowledge, the managerial skills, and emotional intelligence as well. You’ve got both the tech skills and the soft skills. So really, I think you’re a well-rounded candidate with a lot to offer.
Please think of yourself in those terms. You’ll be a great asset for them, they’ll be lucky to have you. You’ve got a lot of offer. Try to think in those terms.
When I talked about this my therapist while ago she said at difficult time thatās what exactly you need, someone who really supports you and she told me try to stop always being self-dependent. But tbh Iām not able to do that for now. My focus for job is sharp. Because currently itās a necessity.
Yeah, keep your focus on your job for now. You can return to the relationship topic later. But also, if you can relax a bit and see yourself as a great candidate for the job (like I suggested above), you don’t need to worry that much. Just change the perspective a little, and you won’t be under such huge pressure.
I’ve heard once that excitement and anxiety are very similar in terms of the hormones that are secreted. I’ve just looked it up now and found a Forbes article about it, titled “Anxiety vs relaxation: Relabeling anxiety as excitement“. Here is an excerpt:
The feeling of anxiety is physiologically almost the same as the feeling of excitement. Both feelings produce an elevated heart rate and a feeling of butterflies in your stomach. Both might make you sweat. Your body is readying itself for action. But the feelings are different.
If you can redefine getting this job as an opportunity and challenge, rather than a horrible loss if it doesn’t happen, you might be able to feel more excitement and less fear and anxiety. Anyway, just an idea. Let me know how it sounds to you.
Youāre right and like you know we discussed before like I need to be more hopeFul romantic not hopeLess romantic. But I donāt know why but Iām still very hopeless about love. On top of that because of this kind of thinking Iām already feeling like Iād end up alone and no one would love me with their whole heart if Iām keep rejecting love like this.
Because tbh I do really like her but I just donāt see future in her even though sheās really good I just donāt know whyā¦
I think it has to do with your childhood experience of not feeling safe and accepted in the relationship with your parents (specially with your father). Relationship and vulnerability feels like a burden, perhaps even a threat, rather than a source of comfort and safety. From what we’ve talked about so far, relationship feels like a threat to your independence, freedom, life goals, pursuing your passions… Am I right in thinking that? And as long as you see relationship as a threat, no wonder you’ll be afraid of it.
I hope so. Because with another therapist itās all from 0 to 1.
You mean you need to repeat everything about yourself to the new therapist, until they get to know you?
And more than that Itās the good relationship you know. Because I want good connection too. … And just look her dedication she said we can communicate over written letters like the old times. And she wonāt even charge me any fees for that.
She does sound like a very kind and supportive person, who is willing to help in spite of her health issues. That’s admirable. I understand why you don’t want to switch to someone else. Let’s hope she will get better soon. By the way, does she have a diagnosis of what her eye problems are?
Self-healing is indeed not easy. But at the end of the day therapists are only like a guide but all the inner work we have to do by ourselves so..
Sure, yes, a good therapist is first and foremost a positive, compassionate presence in our life. Someone who listens to us without judgment. Someone we can be authentic with. Therapeutic relationship is important precisely because of that. Because a therapist ideally creates a safe, non-judgmental place for us to express ourselves, to be ourselves. Something many of us didn’t have while growing up. In doing so, the therapist also teaches us to create that safe place within ourselves: our internal good parent, or Uncle Iroh or Lord Krishna.
And you succeeded in creating that safe space within yourself, because as you say: And thatās why Iām blaming myself much less than I used to.
And because of that, yes, it’s easier to do self-healing too, because you have your own inner therapist now. The inner critic is still there, but Uncle Iroh is there too, and that’s so precious!
Well I do feel like Iām making a progress but for different perspective I wouldnāt mind you telling what do you think my progress so far? Because obviously you continuously contributing a huge part in my healing journey. Because we started communicating long before I even started therapy.
Thank you, SereneWolf. I think you’ve made an amazing progress. I remember in the beginning you didn’t want to accept that our childhood has a huge impact on us as adults š but then you kind of “got it”, and that’s when you really went deeper and expanded your self-awareness. That’s when you decided to start therapy too… All that helped you to have much more compassion and understanding for yourself. And I hope you do feel better about yourself in your day-to-day life, without too much self-blame and self-criticism?
You still have work to do related to the fear of relationship, but you’ll get there. Right now, focus on feeling good enough for the job you’re applying for. Because as I said, you’re more than good enough. Just try to get your confidence up, feeling good in your own skin, and I promise you, you’ll ace that interview, without even trying to do it š
October 21, 2023 at 9:07 am #423608SereneWolfParticipantHi Tee,
Hope youāre having a good weekend.
So itās like there is a real reason why I am concerned about my health, but still, I donāt need to worryĀ thatĀ much. This excessive worrying is a part of health anxiety, and luckily I am learning how to deal with it and calm myself down.
I see what you mean I understood it now. But Iām glad youāre able to deal with it now. I guess this also involves some grounding practice?
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Yes, they both are super important sectors, and sustainability is close to my heart too. Itās good that youāre looking for jobs in fields that are meaningful to you!
Me too. and when I gather enough capital, I want to start some good sustainability startup for sure. Thatās one of my goals.
I understand that you really want this job. And the pressure to get it. But unfortunately it increases your anxiety, which then makes it harder during the interview. Perhaps the first thing youād need to do it put the perfectionist pressure off yourself: āIĀ Need to aceĀ all of this interviews.ā
No, you donāt need to ace them. You donāt need to be perfect, which was the requirement your father has put on you. You only need to be yourself ā which is GOOD ENOUGH.
Because honestly, without flattering you, Serenewolf, you are good enough. You are more than qualified, you have the experience, the knowledge, the managerial skills, and emotional intelligence as well. Youāve got both the tech skills and the soft skills. So really, I think youāre a well-rounded candidate with a lot to offer.
Please think of yourself in those terms. Youāll be a great asset for them, theyāll be lucky to have you. Youāve got a lot of offer. Try to think in those terms.
Again Thanks for giving me amazing and touching reminders about myself. I do tend to forget my own self worth or what Iām able to provide or achieve. I believe Long term of inner Ā critic have to do something with that or maybe something else. My soft skills have indeed improved much better as well as technical skills and top of that Iām so adaptable to learn new things. The first company I worked for I literally learned everything under a week. Even though I was a total fresher at that time.
Yeah, keep your focus on your job for now. You can return to the relationship topic later. But also, if you can relax a bit and see yourself as a great candidate for the job (like I suggested above), you donāt need to worry that much. Just change the perspective a little, and you wonāt be under such huge pressure.
Yes youāre right Iām trying to change my perspective but after getting many rejection emails itās not that easy you know
Iāve heard once that excitement and anxiety are very similar in terms of the hormones that are secreted. Iāve just looked it up now and found a Forbes article about it, titled āAnxiety vs relaxation: Relabeling anxiety as excitementā. Here is an excerpt:
The feeling of anxiety is physiologically almost the same as the feeling of excitement. Both feelings produce an elevated heart rate and a feeling of butterflies in your stomach. Both might make you sweat. Your body is readying itself for action. But the feelings are different.
If you can redefine getting this job as an opportunity and challenge, rather than a horrible loss if it doesnāt happen, you might be able to feel more excitement and less fear and anxiety. Anyway, just an idea. Let me know how it sounds to you.
Thatās a really insightful advice indeed! Thanks for sharing. I love it š
I think it has to do with your childhood experience of not feeling safe and accepted in the relationship with your parents (specially with your father). Relationship and vulnerability feels like a burden, perhaps even a threat, rather than a source of comfort and safety. From what weāve talked about so far, relationship feels like a threat to your independence, freedom, life goals, pursuing your passionsā¦ Am I right in thinking that? And as long as you see relationship as a threat, no wonder youāll be afraid of it.
Recently Iām not seeing relationship as a threat. But more like what if after that much invested time and emotions what if it doesnāt work out? So itās a fear like this. Because thereās another thing Now I know I can find someone who understand me and we have similar life values and enjoy time together even in silence. (Not easy but not that hard) and donāt get me wrong I try to be positive for love but the thing is still if I read or see something around like Breakup or cheating or hear some things like that from someone Iām immediately somewhat feeling like Iām saved. Because Iām not committed, I donāt have to deal with those things.
Just recently one of my friendās bf ended relationship with her saying that he doesnāt love her anymore and ended a 7 YEARS long relationship. So hearing things like this how can I be even little hopeful?You mean you need to repeat everything about yourself to the new therapist, until they get to know you?
Yes and you already know how much harder it is for me express myself properly
She does sound like a very kind and supportive person, who is willing to help in spite of her health issues. Thatās admirable. I understand why you donāt want to switch to someone else. Letās hope she will get better soon. By the way, does she have a diagnosis of what her eye problems are?
She have some kind of retinal condition. So itās advised to her that she should spend much less screentime as possible to prevent further damage and sometimes sheās also getting migraines as well so
Sure, yes, a good therapist is first and foremost a positive, compassionate presence in our life. Someone who listens to us without judgment. Someone we can be authentic with. Therapeutic relationship is important precisely because of that. Because a therapist ideally creates a safe, non-judgmental place for us to express ourselves, to be ourselves. Something many of us didnāt have while growing up. In doing so, the therapist also teaches us to create that safe place within ourselves: our internal good parent, or Uncle Iroh or Lord Krishna.
And you succeeded in creating that safe space within yourself, because as you say:Ā And thatās why Iām blaming myself much less than I used to.
And because of that, yes, itās easier to do self-healing too, because you have your own inner therapist now. The inner critic is still there, but Uncle Iroh is there too, and thatās so precious!
Haha well tbh it what keeps me sane time to time. Because Iāve been situations that normal person just couldnāt even bare. And even in that kind of time I was able to be calm and tell myself itās alright, Breathe. I can solve it. I can handle this.
And sometimes even like just surrendering myself for like total hope. Like no matter what itāll be alright. I survived lot of things and Iāll survive this and succeed. And lot of times it actually worked without even putting too much effort. Can you imagine?Ā
Thank you, SereneWolf. I think youāve made an amazing progress. I remember in the beginning you didnāt want to accept that our childhood has a huge impact on us as adults š but then you kind of āgot itā, and thatās when you really went deeper and expanded your self-awareness. Thatās when you decided to start therapy tooā¦ All that helped you to have much more compassion and understanding for yourself. And I hope you do feel better about yourself in your day-to-day life, without too much self-blame and self-criticism?
You still have work to do related to the fear of relationship, but youāll get there. Right now, focus on feeling good enough for the job youāre applying for. Because as I said, youāre more than good enough. Just try to get your confidence up, feeling good in your own skin, and I promise you, youāll ace that interview, without even trying to do it š
Oh haha I remember I was being stubborn about it but thanks again for always being understanding, guiding me and supporting me. I highly appreciate it. And yeah I do think Iām much self-aware than before. And I do feel much better about myself than before definitely. Iād say Self-blame is totally gone but yeah some self-criticism is still there.
Yes I know I have to work on my fear of relationship because I know I have so much love to give.
Yes. Iām already practicing for an interview. Thanks a lot for your good wishes! I feel much better. š»šOctober 22, 2023 at 12:51 am #423619TeeParticipantHi SereneWolf,
Hope youāre having a good weekend.
It’s more rainy than I’d fancy, but it’s okay, it’s good for the plants and crops š
I see what you mean I understood it now. But Iām glad youāre able to deal with it now. I guess this also involves some grounding practice?
Yes, although with health anxiety it’s tricky because the pain is in the body, so sometimes it’s triggering to focus on one’s body and feel all the various sensations (which is a typical exercise for grounding), because then you’ll feel the pain too, and it’s counterproductive. So for me, it is more like self-suggestion and telling myself that I am stronger than I think, and that the last time the pain went away, so it will happen this time too.
Me too. and when I gather enough capital, I want to start some good sustainability startup for sure. Thatās one of my goals.
Great! I am rooting for you to make it happen!
Again Thanks for giving me amazing and touching reminders about myself. I do tend to forget my own self worth or what Iām able to provide or achieve. I believe Long term of inner critic have to do something with that or maybe something else.
You are very welcome. Yeah, self-worth is key, and that’s what gets damaged when we have a criticizing parent. Your father made you believe you’re not good enough (when you didn’t get straight As, when you didn’t get him the right tool immediately, and in many other occasions throughout your childhood), and so that’s what you started believing about yourself too. And it takes a long time and healing to undo that false belief…
My soft skills have indeed improved much better as well as technical skills and top of that Iām so adaptable to learn new things. The first company I worked for I literally learned everything under a week. Even though I was a total fresher at that time.
I am glad you’re aware of your skills, and how capable you are of learning new things, adapting, and thriving in a new setting. So yeah, don’t forget that. And indeed, that you’re an asset and have a lot to offer.
Yes youāre right Iām trying to change my perspective but after getting many rejection emails itās not that easy you know
I know, rejection after rejection makes one wonder: maybe I am really not good enough. But I think that for you, who already have a tendency to believe that you’re not good enough, rejection only confirms that false belief. So it’s like a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Next time if you get a rejection (I hope you won’t! but nevertheless), try not to see it as a “proof” that you’re not good or worthy enough. Think of it as “okay, they need someone with a different profile”. Or even “maybe I am too good for them, they need someone with less experience, who they can easily adapt to their own needs”. What I am trying to say is don’t immediately make the worst possible conclusion about yourself. Don’t question your worth, even if a company rejects you!
Thatās a really insightful advice indeed! Thanks for sharing. I love it
You’re welcome. I like it too!
Recently Iām not seeing relationship as a threat. But more like what if after that much invested time and emotions what if it doesnāt work out? So itās a fear like this. Because thereās another thing Now I know I can find someone who understand me and we have similar life values and enjoy time together even in silence. (Not easy but not that hard)
First, I am happy if you started believing that you can find someone compatible, someone you can enjoy time together even in silence. That’s so precious! And if this girl is in that category, you’re lucky.
and donāt get me wrong I try to be positive for love but the thing is still if I read or see something around like Breakup or cheating or hear some things like that from someone Iām immediately somewhat feeling like Iām saved. Because Iām not committed, I donāt have to deal with those things.
It sounds like the fear of getting hurt, once you’ve given your heart to someone. When we love, we are vulnerable. We’ve talked about vulnerability before. Without vulnerability, there is no healthy relationship. There is no authenticity. But you fear to be vulnerable because if we’re hurt by someone we love and trust, it hurts a lot. It hurts like hell.
And you’ve already experienced this pain in your childhood: you’ve opened your heart and trusted your parents, and they’ve hurt you. Specially your father. And it happened again and again. So for you, being vulnerable and needing someone is a big no-no. Super scary. You want to prevent to be hurt again. Would you agree with this?
Just recently one of my friendās bf ended relationship with her saying that he doesnāt love her anymore and ended a 7 YEARS long relationship. So hearing things like this how can I be even little hopeful?
There are no guarantees in life. And no absolute security. When I get out in the street, who guarantees me that a brick won’t fall on my head? That I won’t be hit by a car? If we lived like that, we wouldn’t live at all.
But still, in a relationship, you can know if someone is trustworthy. It’s not so completely random. Because the person has a track record or supporting you and being there for you. If you marry someone, you don’t marry them at a whim, but because you’ve got to know the person. You’ve been vulnerable with them, and they’ve been vulnerable with you. And when problems arise, you communicate about it, you don’t pretend that everything is fine.
All this is still not a guarantee of “living happily ever after”, but it gives you a certain certainty, a higher probability of things working out.
You know what they say: nothing is ever certain in life, only death is. But within that general uncertainty, you can still count on some people and trust them – because they have proven themselves as trustworthy.
She have some kind of retinal condition. So itās advised to her that she should spend much less screentime as possible to prevent further damage and sometimes sheās also getting migraines as well so
Retina is super important… I do hope she gets better. There are also vitamins she can take, to strengthen the retina, but I guess she knows all that…
Haha well tbh it what keeps me sane time to time. Because Iāve been situations that normal person just couldnāt even bare. And even in that kind of time I was able to be calm and tell myself itās alright, Breathe. I can solve it. I can handle this.
Great! Were they physically dangerous situations (like watching the lioness give birth in the jungle), or other types of situations?
And sometimes even like just surrendering myself for like total hope. Like no matter what itāll be alright. I survived lot of things and Iāll survive this and succeed. And lot of times it actually worked without even putting too much effort. Can you imagine?
You see how much hope (and trust) you had, even in dangerous, possibly life-threatening situations? I guess you had trust in yourself and your own abilities, and in providence, right?
At the same time, you are scared to trust another person. I am not judging you at all, just inviting you to notice it. You’re scared to trust because you’ve been hurt in your childhood. So trust in relationships is gone. Trust in nature (and your own abilities) is still there, but trust in another person is gone.
Oh haha I remember I was being stubborn about it but thanks again for always being understanding, guiding me and supporting me. I highly appreciate it. And yeah I do think Iām much self-aware than before. And I do feel much better about myself than before definitely. Iād say Self-blame is totally gone but yeah some self-criticism is still there.
You are very welcome, SereneWolf. It’s been great to support you on your journey and see you shed that self-criticism and drill sergeant mentality bit by bit š I am happy for you and I am glad you’re feeling better.
Yes I know I have to work on my fear of relationship because I know I have so much love to give.
Yes you do. You’d only have to learn how to trust again…
Wishing you best of luck on Wednesday! (but we can talk in the meanwhile too, hope my eyes wills serve me š )
October 27, 2023 at 12:14 am #423780SereneWolfParticipantHi Tee,
Howās your week going?
Itās more rainy than Iād fancy, but itās okay, itās good for the plants and crops š
Oh cool. You have like your own little farm that you grow crops in? what plants are there?
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Yes, although with health anxiety itās tricky because the pain is in the body, so sometimes itās triggering to focus on oneās body and feel all the various sensations (which is a typical exercise for grounding), because then youāll feel the pain too, and itās counterproductive. So for me, it is more like self-suggestion and telling myself that I am stronger than I think, and that the last time the pain went away, so it will happen this time too.
Ah I see, thatās right triggering the feeling of pain aināt easy. And youāre indeed much stronger than you think! No matter what your anxiety says to you.
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Great! I am rooting for you to make it happen!
Thanks a lot š
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You are very welcome. Yeah, self-worth is key, and thatās what gets damaged when we have a criticizing parent. Your father made you believe youāre not good enough (when you didnāt get straight As, when you didnāt get him the right tool immediately, and in many other occasions throughout your childhood), and so thatās what you started believing about yourself too. And it takes a long time and healing to undo that false beliefā¦
Yes I guess because Iām self-aware about these things at later age itās little bit harder because the roots are deeper
I am glad youāre aware of your skills, and how capable you are of learning new things, adapting, and thriving in a new setting. So yeah, donāt forget that. And indeed, that youāre an asset and have a lot to offer.
Yes Iām trying to believe that!
What I am trying to say is donāt immediately make the worst possible conclusion about yourself. Donāt question your worth, even if a company rejects you!
Well to be honest Iām not doing that consciously. Most of the time Iāve seen those emails Iād just ignore it. I be like yeah okay, there will be a good match soon. But I guess maybe itās my subconscious.
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First, I am happy if you started believing that you can find someone compatible, someone you can enjoy time together even in silence. Thatās so precious! And if this girl is in that category, youāre lucky.
Well she is in that category. But Iām always questioning this like there is very slight chance that it would work out between us. Because I do like to spend time with her but she also scares me with her bold ācommitment typeā of moves sometimes š
It sounds like the fear of getting hurt, once youāve given your heart to someone. When we love, we are vulnerable. Weāve talked about vulnerability before. Without vulnerability, there is no healthy relationship. There is no authenticity. But you fear to be vulnerable because if weāre hurt by someone we love and trust, it hurts a lot. It hurts like hell.
And youāve already experienced this pain in your childhood: youāve opened your heart and trusted your parents, and theyāve hurt you. Specially your father. And it happened again and again. So for you, being vulnerable and needing someone is a big no-no. Super scary. You want to prevent to be hurt again. Would you agree with this?
Hmm not really because I believe itās not about getting hurt anymore. Because I donāt know I got this sense of strength that it is my heart and Iām able to heal my heart no matter what. Maybe my heart is rigid and Iām also sensitive occasionally but I know time and patience can heal heart. And because of this girl I donāt think Iām much scared about vulnerability either.
There are no guarantees in life. And no absolute security. When I get out in the street, who guarantees me that a brick wonāt fall on my head? That I wonāt be hit by a car? If we lived like that, we wouldnāt live at all.
But still, in a relationship, you can know if someone is trustworthy. Itās not so completely random. Because the person has a track record or supporting you and being there for you. If you marry someone, you donāt marry them at a whim, but because youāve got to know the person. Youāve been vulnerable with them, and theyāve been vulnerable with you. And when problems arise, you communicate about it, you donāt pretend that everything is fine.
All this is still not a guarantee of āliving happily ever afterā, but it gives you a certain certainty, a higher probability of things working out.
You know what they say: nothing is ever certain in life, only death is. But within that general uncertainty, you can still count on some people and trust them ā because they have proven themselves as trustworthy.
I agree with you. So what you mean is a process of trusting first and even for me in relationship trust comes first and after that, love. Maybe somewhere I still believe in fast love yet still have that feeling of security which isnāt right. My controlling behavior haha
And slow love, like getting to know the person, building trust and love based on that. It seems long process but there is actually much higher probability.
But because I was already in many unhealthy relationship dynamics even that seems questionable and time wasting to me. So in a way Iām craving a heathy love yet still exhausted to actually put in efforts for healthy love. Me, Iām the problem itās me š
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Retina is super importantā¦ I do hope she gets better. There are also vitamins she can take, to strengthen the retina, but I guess she knows all thatā¦
I guess sheās already doing that but it what happened to her is more like genetic so..
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Great! Were they physically dangerous situations (like watching the lioness give birth in the jungle), or other types of situations?
Yes. Physically and mentally dangerous both. I went to visit oil refinery with my uncle and they gave us VIP pass and my uncle was there for business matters so he was working and I was just curious checking things here and there was this giant pod they didnāt know I was in so they locked up. They couldnāt even hear if I scream. So I just sit there for an hour and after that looking around and see thing yellow printed sign for the location and pickup time was on the pod so I was like damn if I wonāt hurry Iām going to dead because they lift up the pod with machines and itās quite fast so much higher chances of me getting crushed inside the pod. But I calmed myself and there was this pointy rod thing I managed to remove it after like half house and sharp pointy rod can make much higher noise to an iron pod so, so thatās how they find out I was there š
And it happened with wild animals tooā¦ not giving birth (Because that is actually beautiful thing) but in Lion just sitting on the way when I was just riding my bicycle going back home. I wasnāt taking road but the farm area shortcuts because it was easier and faster. If you move too much around lion it would mean youāre a meal thatās it. So I literally waited like 3.5 hours just sitting there waiting him to move on his own and till then I was just sitting on my bicycle like a statue.
And lot of other normal work and school related things lol
You see how much hope (and trust) you had, even in dangerous, possibly life-threatening situations? I guess you had trust in yourself and your own abilities, and in providence, right?
At the same time, you are scared to trust another person. I am not judging you at all, just inviting you to notice it. Youāre scared to trust because youāve been hurt in your childhood. So trust in relationships is gone. Trust in nature (and your own abilities) is still there, but trust in another person is gone.
Yes exactly because in lot of situations I was alone and I saved my own self. There are some situations where people did helped me but still..
But basically for relationship youāre right Iāve been hurt and I was alone so I thought just myself is enough.
Yes you do. Youād only have to learn how to trust againā¦
Yes I know, Iām trying
Wishing you best of luck on Wednesday! (but we can talk in the meanwhile too, hope my eyes wills serve me š )
Thanks, and yes my interview went actually well. Beyond my expectations. I practiced a lot but she didn’t ask many things. but Still I donāt think I gave the best answers but more like satisfactory? Because the Technical interviewer had less energy and I was energetic, so I guess she did like that enthusiasm as well. but letās see now. There will be another interview with Data scientist soon. But Iām still worried though.
You still having eye problems?Ā Is it getting any better?
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