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July 26, 2018 at 7:55 am #218813AnonymousGuest
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July 26, 2018 at 8:22 am #218815HelenParticipantDear Anita,
Thanks for your thoughtful message.
When I read you, it makes perfect sense to ask him to clarify what he stated without being confrontational. And I tried to, but when I am caught in my pattern of insecurities I freeze. Part of me also wants to know if it is a casual date or not, but I don’t know if I can handle the conversation and really wants to hear the answer. It would be maybe healthier than avoiding the conversation.
I am also wondering if it is my critical inner voice that is trying to find any flaw in this relationship, in me, in him, to stop this relationship and stop vulnerability because all of this challenges this voice.
Helen
July 26, 2018 at 8:23 am #218817PrashParticipantHi Helen,
Being in a relationship is a sure way to your own self growth and development. This is where you discover aspects of yourself which you thought were long gone. And of course effective communication is the only way a relation can progress.
You mention about fears of rejection. It may be useful for you to reexamine those and see how you can resolve them. The inner critic is indeed something that can paralyze your best efforts. One of the ways in which you can deal with the critic is to crystallize and write the thoughts that the inner critic is causing. Very often you realize that those thoughts don’t have any solid basis and even if they do writing it out helps in finding ways to resolve those thoughts.
July 26, 2018 at 8:51 am #218821MarkParticipantHelen,
Do you know about Attachment Styles? It sounds like your boyfriend is an Avoidant and you are Anxious attachment style.
You might want to check the internet for ways of dealing with that. See this website for a start.
I hope that this will give you a better understanding, tools to use, and some comfort.
Mark
July 26, 2018 at 8:57 am #218823AnonymousGuestDear Helen:
You are welcome.
Fear does that, cause us to freeze, not different than the bird I saw the other day in the middle of the road. I didn’t understand why it was sitting there, not moving. I approached it and it didn’t fly away, just sat there. It wasn’t injured, no blood, a car didn’t hit it. It must have been almost hit, thrown a distance by the moving air caused by a car driving close, and scared, frozen in fear, it just stayed where it was. Alive but frozen.
Fear is powerful, and that what makes it so special, when we are able to do something we are afraid of doing. That gives us confidence that makes the next time easier, less scary. So if you find the courage to ask him one question, following an explanation of your non confrontational intent, and if he answers you honestly and in a friendly way, then you will benefit greatly from the interaction and you will be more able than before to benefit yourself in all kinds of ways.
There is a risk of course, but then there is always a risk in things that matter. When scared take a small step, that is the best way to practice courage. Ask him a question about a small matter, less risk that way, then take it from there.
anita
July 26, 2018 at 9:30 am #218833HelenParticipantHi Prash,
Thanks for your suggestion. I am examining my inner critic and it is stunning how many things it has to say and how mean it is. According to it, I am not lovable, not attractive, not interesting enough. I know deep-down that it is not true, that my real self is lovable, attractive and interesting but I am shocked by how harsh this inner critic is. It made me cry to realize how I was and still am talking to myself.
Hi Mark,
Yes, thank you for suggesting that and for this article, it is always nice to keep that in mind. I read two books on Attachment styles (Too close for comfort and Insecure in love), they don’t have exactly the same denominations but the ideas are similar. I think he is dismissive, no need for love, with low anxiety and high avoidance and I am more fearful, conflicted in love with high anxiety and high avoidance. I feel I am in constant tension between being too close or too distant, and adopting the same ways of communication. He is not a texter? I won’t text. He doesn’t introduce me to his friends? I don’t either. I am working on that with mindfulness, still baby steps!
Hi Anita,
Thanks for sharing this experience with the bird, it is another way to see the fear that I haven’t been able to see, the fact that it is special and it will give us the confidence to do it again with less fear. I will try this approach.
I can see that I have to rebuild inner peace after this episode but I am grateful for your advices, listening and understanding.
Helen
July 26, 2018 at 10:35 am #218851AnonymousGuestDear Helen:
You are welcome. It is a pleasure to communicate with you. I hope to read from you again, about how you practice of courage in the face of fear, as well as more of your excellent understanding and insight which are evident in your posts.
anita
July 31, 2018 at 5:02 am #219599HelenParticipantHi again everyone,
I am starting to fell appart. I had a so-so experience with my last date with him, i tried to regain confidence. I was thinking it was maybe just not our days for either of us. So I offered him to see each other this week and he is busy and will leave for holidays. Not offering any suggestion to meet. So I wish him good holidays but ask him if we were fine or does he have something to tell me ? I know it is not the best option to text but I feel I have activated my anxious mode and will probably not meet each other until the end of the month. I feel that I needed to ask him.
If it is good between us, fine I will deactivate my anxious mode. If he becomes more avoidant (as I sense it like that) and will just not respond or end this relation, I want to know. I know that there is no certainty in relationships, but I want to move on if he keeps being avoidant and not ruin my holidays being in limbo without knowing if he wants space but too afraid to tell me. I want to find inner peace again, I know I will be okay with any option. I tried and will try again but not now.
Helen
July 31, 2018 at 8:02 am #219623AnonymousGuestDear Helen:
“I tried and will try again but not now”- I didn’t understand, try what, in this sentence?
You wrote, “if it is good between us, fine I will deactivate my anxious mode”- you can do that, deactivate your anxious mode?
I do understand that you will be way less anxious if you knew that things are good between the two of you, and therefore you wouldn’t be in that limbo you mentioned. There is a problem with it being good between the two of you because “it”, the relationship, that is, is a fluid thing. So you ask him about seeing him this coming week, he tells you he is busy, and you ask him: “if we were fine or does he have something to tell me?”- if he didn’t have something to tell you, now he may be thinking: do I have something to tell her, see, you put something into “it” when you asked the question and “it” is no longer what it was before you asked. Same thing with everything he says to you.
It cannot be a solid thing, something that he knows and you don’t, and if he tells you that it is okay, then it is. It keeps changing. You can’t make it stop changing, and there is no way to say just the right thing at the right time, at all times, so to direct it toward safety, to being that solid thing.
Not anytime soon, that is.
If you are okay with the relationship ending, can you be okay with it ending and allow yourself then the ambiguity in the fluidity of this thing, this relationship, I mean, can you say to yourself something like: okay, it will probably end, so it will. I can stop worrying about it and just be myself?
anita
July 31, 2018 at 8:52 am #219659HelenParticipantHi Anita,
Thank you for taking the time to answer. I didn’t calmly write what we have exchanged. I ask him he wanted to meet, he said he was busy and then going to holidays. I then replied that is fine and wish him good holidays and ask, between us are we fine or do you have things to tell me? I prefer a clarification rather than asking myself if he was trying to make some space, avoid me or being really busy. I can’t know without asking him.
I do understand your questions, though. When I said I tried, I mean I tried to let go, to not ask myself too many questions and tried to date casually. i can’t deactivate my anxious mode but I can’t keep asking questions to myself about him and making the answers as well for him.
It is because I don’t feel myself in this anxious mode that I am okay with it ending. I learnt amazing things, I had good times and laughed a lot, but maybe our two attachment styles are too different to let the relationship unfold at its pace.
Helen
July 31, 2018 at 9:24 am #219669AnonymousGuestDear Helen:
Reads to me that it was a good idea to ask him if things are okay. Like you wrote, “I can’t know without asking him”. I often recommend asking. I do a lot of asking in my posts. I suppose a moderation even in asking is a good practice. In my post to you before this one, I was concerned with you asking this too often, and that can distress the individual being asked too often if things are okay.
A different attachment style does read like the main problem in this beginning relationship. I don’t think you shared before, did you have an experience with a man, in a previous relationship, a man was as attached to you (or more) as you have been to him, and if so, what happened there?
anita
July 31, 2018 at 11:44 am #219707HelenParticipantDear Anita,
Thanks for your answer. It is the first time I ask the question and of course I don’t have any answer, I am okay with whatever happens next. It is his will to answer me or not, I don’t have any control on this but I asked.
I had few dates before this guy and before I was in a long distance relationship for 8 years. He was more the anxious type and we got along very well, we lived together for a year and half and I had to move for my job. We had some issues but we were willing to talk about them, except the main problem at that time: incompatible live projects, he was planning to be an organic farmer and I needed to be in a big city for my job. He was ok with sacrificing his project to be with me but I didn’t want him to do that, I thought that one day he would resent me for living in a city where he has no friends and a job he hates. He has now abandoned his project to be able to live in another country to learn the language and be closer to his friends but don’t have a very stable professional project.
HelenJuly 31, 2018 at 12:13 pm #219717PrashParticipantDear Helen,
Good to read that you have been able to focus on things that you have a control on. You mentioned in your post that you are starting to fall apart. Are you alright?
July 31, 2018 at 12:41 pm #219723AnonymousGuestDear Helen:
It was very loving of you to consider your ex boyfriend’s well being at the time, to reject his offer because you believed it would be better for him. You were concerned with his well being.
From the little you shared, reads to me that a man with a more anxious attachment would be better for you. When you like someone and want to spend more time with him, you naturally want him to like you too, and want to spend more time with you.
At this point, what is the status with the current guy, is there a contact of any kind that is planned for the near future?
anita
July 31, 2018 at 2:12 pm #219741HelenParticipantHi Prash,
Thanks a lot for asking, I have seen my therapist and I have a better insight of what is at stake. I will try to maintain my focus on things that I can have control on.Hi Anita,
Yes, there was no drama in my previous relationship, we are still in contact and I still want the best for him, I really hope he will be happy in his life. And he wants the same for me. I am grateful for the moments we had together.
I agree, I also do think after some dating that someone with a secure or a more anxious style would better suits me.With the current guy, he has not answered yet, I am not sure he will answer, though. I think he has still some issues he needs to work on, as I do on my own. I think he made one step closer two weeks ago and freaked out, that’s why he If he doesn’t answer, I think it is for the better, I don’t want to open to someone who is not able to answer me. I don’t blame him, he has certainly his reasons. If he does, I will then decide based on the new information he will be able to give me. It is strange because when I see myself in this current situation i can’t believe I was in a healthy relationship for that long, but I know that every relationship has its own flow.
Thanks again for reading and sharing your insights.
Helen
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