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September 12, 2019 at 1:17 am #311771
Manon
ParticipantBasically the issue now is that it feels like my entire life has been a mistake. I should never have been here. To be hated from the very first thought of your life and then to realize that your family of origin hates you and your husband’s family hates you? What is the common factor? If you feel like everyone hates you, then don’t you have to have to examine the reason why?
September 12, 2019 at 1:25 am #311773Manon
ParticipantI should add that we were the only ones in the funeral home except for my deceased father-in-law. His body was right there next to that book that they took our pictures out of.
September 12, 2019 at 5:01 am #311793Inky
ParticipantHi Marion,
We have also been “erased” on purpose from family albums, slideshows, etc.
The only thing you can do is at the next family event, bring your own photos. Big. Framed. The rest in it’s own album. You DO exist, and in fact, can make it look like YOU run the family like a club and are its founder.
The issue is really with your SIL. Mine was with my step-mother.
You are a good person. Repeat as a mantra. Every day. You have to believe that in your soul. Your husband, the doctor, married you. He is a smart person, surely. Why would he saddle himself with someone un-photo worthy? He wouldn’t!! Don’t let your in-laws get in your head!
Bigger, Better, Framed Pictures,
Inky
September 12, 2019 at 7:23 am #311823Peggy
ParticipantHi Manon,
You have a husband and children that you love. Your husband is not accountable for his sister’s spiteful behavior. She has pulled this stunt twice – ask your husband if he will still excuse her after the third time. Has he spoken to his sister on this subject? Has he told her how upset you are? He probably just wants to keep the peace.
This behavior comes from jealousy. Shrink it down to size and don’t let it bother you so much. Display your own photos of your much loved children, yourself and your husband. There is no reason for anyone to think that you should divorce your husband over this – it’s far too trivial. See it as it is – someone being trivial/jealous/spiteful towards you and your family.
Peggy
September 12, 2019 at 9:21 am #311873Anonymous
GuestDear Manon:
I enjoyed your intelligent sense of humor, quite evident in your writing. Your sister in law’s behavior regarding the photographs read like the typical passive-aggressive type. She communicated to you something like: you dare not help me with the family photo montage? Well, I will show you!
But you were busy with two one-year old children and a three year old, couldn’t she see that you were too busy to look at photos… that you needed help, not another task to do? Maybe she saw that but selfishly what mattered to her is to have power-over: her will be done or else!
Here is a thought: if the sister was at the restaurant that day or evening, maybe the reason her “very reticent mother put her arms around (you) in the ladies room” of the restaurant and hugged you there and told you how glad she was that her son had you- was because that kind of behavior and words were not allowed by the sister… a maybe- thought.
anita
September 13, 2019 at 12:16 am #312019Michelle
ParticipantHi Manon,
A different perspective, perhaps a way in to why you can’t let this go, when you can’t stop letting your SIL have this piece of power over you when you don’t need to let her do so. I understand it’s frustrating your husband won’t agree with you and you probably feel let down that he’s “picked her over you” on this one thing. You can’t understand why he doesn’t see them the way you can.
But it’s not really about taking sides. I suspect given your own family, you were eager to find another family who loved you and when it started so well, had high hopes. When these incidents occurred, it would not be very surprising if they triggered all the same old feelings of betrayal and not belonging to your own family – and now also this ‘new’ family are rejecting you, not including you.
Like others have said, it does seem a bit of a pathetic power play by the SIL who wants to be in charge, come what may. But if it wasn’t a trigger point for you because of your own history, you’d be much more likely to see it the same way – and it wouldn’t bother you so much as it does.
You have your own healthy and happy family now, your husband and kids. That’s huge, awesome and wonderful given your struggles. Try not to punish your husband for not seeing what you can see, perhaps try and explain your own perspective too. Then accept it is isn’t going to be the bigger loving family you wanted and that’s ok – you already have what you want and need in your own family.
September 13, 2019 at 6:31 am #312037sayed shehraz
ParticipantYou should compromise if already passed 20 years together. you must try to understand each other.
September 14, 2019 at 12:25 am #312185Manon
ParticipantInky, *side-eyes* are we possibly related? Or perhaps I should better say cloned. Related is not so good. I said almost the exact same things to my friends when it happened. My version was that (in the next unfortunate event that my 94 year old MIL passes) I planned on taking our own photo album of only us. Couldn’t decide between just photos of my husband, kids and me OR (stay with me here) with blank pages for the rest of his siblings or just cutting their faces out of existing photos. Kidding. I am a kidder. But I know and understand exactly what you are talking about it. It may still happen.
September 14, 2019 at 12:35 am #312189Manon
ParticipantPeggy, you are so right its scary but more so comforting. He would probably never reveal how upset I was/am. He never wants to make waves. With anyone but me evidently. The idea of reducing it to its actual importance is wisdom. Yep. Thanks for that. Easier said than done but I see the point you made. The jealousy thing has been brought up many times from my friends to me. Jealous of what? I don’t get it. Unless she is just jealous that she doesn’t have control over him like she used to. My husband has always been the passive peace-keeper. In fact, I would go so far as to say that his family treated him with complete disregard for most of his life. His brothers were “geniuses”. Bullshit. Ok, yes they are smart but so is DH and SO WHAT? He has a better heart than any of them do. They used to call him “Fat Al” when he was a chubby kid and teenager. His own family. Heads would roll if I ever heard any of them or ANY one for that matter insult my husband. I am very protective of those I love. Hence the cognitive dissonance between us. He doesn’t have that protective instinct.
September 14, 2019 at 12:39 am #312191Manon
ParticipantAnita, the first two paragraphs of your (very) thoughtful response were almost verbatim of what I told my husband the other night. But I never thought, in all of these years, about why his mother took the time to hug me and tell me she was so grateful for me in her son’s life outside of the sight of everyone, including her daughter. You might be onto something there.
September 14, 2019 at 12:42 am #312193Manon
ParticipantMichelle, Thank you for your response. It was very astute and accurate. That’s a good thing. Even though it made me cry.
September 14, 2019 at 3:34 am #312201Peggy
ParticipantHi Manon,
Thank you for your kind words. Jealousy is irrational and comes from insecurity. Name calling is never clever when it is aimed at a child. It is always hurtful. Forgive your husband for not standing up for you on this issue – he just becomes that child again when he’s with the family.
Much Love
Peggy
September 14, 2019 at 6:33 am #312225Sun
ParticipantHi Manon,
This is a very tricky situation, but my advice would be complete understanding. He must see your point of view completely, and it is important that he does not invalidate your feelings.
September 14, 2019 at 7:44 am #312233Anonymous
GuestDear Manon:
I like this: “Heads would roll if I ever heard any of them or ANY one for that matter insult my husband. I am very protective of those I love”- he is a lucky man and so is every person that you love.
Regarding your husband and how he was/ is treated by his family, you wrote: “My husband has a PhD. He is an extremely intelligent person… we get along so well, except for this one issue. He will never acknowledge that his sister is being spiteful with the photos… He never wants to make waves. With anyone but with me evidently… My husband has always been the passive peace- keeper… his family treated him with complete disregard for most of his life. His brothers were ‘geniuses’.. They used t call him ‘Fat Al’ when he was a chubby kid and teenager… Hence the cognitive dissonance between us. He doesn’t have that protective instinct”.
My thoughts this morning: your husband, as a child, very much had a “protective instinct”. There was spite in his home, between his parents, between parents and siblings. So protectively, he closed his eyes to the spite and removed it from his awareness. This closing of the eyes is the “cognitive dissonance” you mentioned.
As a child he had to survive his home (as do so many of us, including you). It is very threatening for a child to be aware that his parents or siblings (uninterrupted by parents) intend to hurt him, out of spite. So he closed his eyes to their spite. Fast forward, he still does.
It is this protective instinct in childhood that leads to many intelligent and even very intelligent, accomplished adults to be blind so to speak to what is so obvious to others.
anita
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