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July 11, 2019 at 7:23 am in reply to: very confused-new girlfriend, ex-girlfrend. Help me please #302899
ValoraParticipantYeah, I’m definitely not saying she didn’t love you, but something is different if she’s doing now what she wouldn’t do then. I don’t think you were cheated or fooled either. That makes it sound like her not saying that was intentional to hurt you and you were a victim, which I don’t think is true. I think it’s possible that you were just in a position that allowed you to love harder. I think it might’ve been the same with my ex and I. I’m generally happy with myself and although I have my issues, I am very capable of loving hard. My ex tended to jump from relationship to relationship and realistically wasn’t so happy with himself and my security made him feel insecure sometimes. That alone would make someone less capable of fully loving someone else, even though they did try and seemingly did love hard… it’s true that you have to love yourself before you can REALLY, truly love someone else. It’s possible your ex may just be happier with herself now so that might also be why she seems more open with the guy she’s dating, too.
The point is… she’s seemingly happy where she’s at now, she hasn’t tried to contact you in a while, so this present moment just has to be what it is. And like I said before… it’s okay to hope. There’s nothing wrong with that as long as you just make sure you remain open to other possibilities. If she really has found a better match for her, that means there’s a better one out there for you, too. So just be open to either thing to come along, her or someone new, once you get out of your current situation and get your life back where you’re happy overall again.
I’m not sure what state you’re in, but is your girlfriend claiming on the forms that she lives with you? Because they make you name everyone in the household, so if you did split up, it’s likely she’d get more again if she was claiming you because that would drop the number of people in her household. At any rate, you can feel bad for her, but she still isn’t your responsibility. She is HER OWN responsibility. You are just going to have to be 100% firm with her, no matter how much you don’t want to and how bad that makes you feel… this situation is hurting both of you…. especially since your girlfriend is very clearly codependent. I don’t think there’s anything you can say to get her to leave willingly because she’s depending on you in a very unhealthy way. You are going to have to be the one to do it.
And, actually, if you’re still feeling like you would’ve been with your ex like your girlfriend is with you, that might mean you have so codependency issues in there, too, that need to be worked on and maybe that’s another reason why you’re having trouble letting your go. So that’s definitely something to look into, especially if you’re going to counseling… explore that with a therapist.
Actually… could you talk to your landlord? Tell him you’re going to go live in your RV on your friend’s land because you need to split with your girlfriend but don’t want to leave her and her kids homeless and that if your girlfriend is forced to leave the apartment because she can’t afford it, ask for him to call you and you will come back in and take over the rent once she moves out? That might be a way to leave without forcing her out of the home and also giving her a chance to keep it, but if she can’t, you will still then have that place to live and you both won’t end up losing the place? Something to think about.
July 10, 2019 at 2:35 pm in reply to: very confused-new girlfriend, ex-girlfrend. Help me please #302801
ValoraParticipantI honestly think that might’ve been good for you to see because it’ll help you let some reality in. It’s okay to hope for the future, but for right now and indefinitely, she’s with him. I kind of think it says something that she never said she loves you over social media, too. It’d be one thing if that were just not something she does, but clearly she does do that. It’s possible you were more into her than she was into you, unfortunately.
I think it’s a good idea to get out of your current situation and work on getting yourself better right away. It’s really not a good time for you to get back with your ex anyway, even if she did come back, because you aren’t in a place where you can start a healthy relationship… and if she does end up coming back or you meet someone better… you want to be able to start the relationship in a good spot and develop a healthy one that will last, right?
So even though I get what you’re feeling and what you’re going through, please trust me when I say it’s really better this way at least for now. You have to get out of that situation you’re in first. Maybe let this help push you to do that.
July 10, 2019 at 8:54 am in reply to: very confused-new girlfriend, ex-girlfrend. Help me please #302745
ValoraParticipantI have the same feeling about my ex, too, but the important thing is to recognize that it may just be wishful thinking creating a “gut feeling” that isn’t actually intuition. You also have to just remain open to other options and be sure to give new people a chance… otherwise, I don’t see the harm in letting that hope remain because things like that DO happen, and I don’t think it’s realistic to think you can just turn that hope or that feeling off, especially since I know exactly what you’re feeling. Just don’t let that hope and those feelings hold you back from someone else is all, and if you give someone a chance and then end up making that feeling for your ex go away (which is totally possible), then you’ll know THAT person is a better fit. So just be open is all.
As for your other situation, if you don’t think you can afford a place again, you might want to just be strong and firm and tell her she needs to leave…. especially because she can’t afford your apartment on her own either, can she? So it makes no sense for you to have to leave it if she’d have to leave either way and especially if you don’t think you’ll be able to find another place for yourself soon. You’re just going to have to make yourself do it and remember that she is just as much to blame for being in this situation as you are, so it’s time she took responsibility for that, too. This is what happens when you move into someone’s place and the relationship doesn’t end up working… it’s her responsibility to move back out.
ValoraParticipantI want to break it off for my mental health and mental space and also because I am afraid if I stay that this pattern of sex not seeing each other and limited communication will continue and I will not get my needs met and continue to suffer
It sounds like you really know what to do and I agree with this thought. I think it’d be a good idea to break it off and move on for multiple reasons. I also think it might be a good idea for you, while going through a divorce, to just take the time for yourself and not worry about dating for a bit. Enjoy your time being single and go do some things you’ve always wanted to do since not having to devote time to a partner gives you extra time to do and learn new fun things. Then when you feel you’re in a really good place emotionally, start meeting people for coffee, like Anita said. Take it slow. Sex adds a level of complication, especially for women, because we tend to get more attached after that.
ValoraParticipantI think the biggest thing to learn from this is that you don’t NEED closure to move on. It definitely makes it easier to move on, but you don’t actually need it because we are all capable of moving on without it, no matter what our minds try to tell us. So maybe that’s what all of this is trying to teach you… The ability to move on and let go of something without closure, because you won’t always be able to get it. Once you’re able to do that, you won’t feel so hurt, but it’s just going to take some time.
There are actually a lot of blogs out there on this topic of moving on without closure and why we don’t need it, and I’ve found reading those very helpful, so they may help you too.
ValoraParticipantHi Valora
Yup im ok to let go but i was stuck as i never got clear explanation. Like i mentioned im more of a face to face direct convo kinda person. I strongly believe in communicating like mature adults and not behave like kids (blocking, ghosting etc). I always prefer a direct dialouge and then be done with the issue. I would have really prefered if she would have told me that see with baby i want complete focus on my family so i cant continue this relation. We all are supposed to be mature adults here
I definitely know what you mean. I think we all like explanations when things like this happen because it gives us closure and peace of mind, but there will be many times where we just sort of have to move on without it. It’s frustrating to move on without that conversation, though. I’ve had to do it myself many times when I would’ve much rather had an honest conversation beforehand and had my questions answered so I’m not left to wonder and overthink. In the end, I figure it’s all the more reason to let them go, though. If she couldn’t give you at least that, then she really isn’t being that great of a friend, and it’s a very selfish way to end things. I just usually end up chalking it up to another lesson in being able to let go gracefully without any real closure, which is a good skill to have in life.
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ValoraParticipantHi Maddie!
I agree with Anita’s assessment, too. Based on what you’ve said, I think the pregnancy was sort of a wake-up call for her of sorts. I think she just realized that she didn’t want to continue doing what she’d been doing, so she cut things off in the easiest way possible (for her)… she ghosted you.
This happens to a lot of women who have guy friends when the guy friends get a girlfriend who is insecure and doesn’t want their boyfriend talking to any of his friends that are girls… so he stops for her. I have lost many, many of my best guy friends this way, and those guys and I weren’t even romantically involved… just a platonic friendship. So things like this happen all the time, and you kind of just have to let them go. If, at some point, she pops back into your life (usually that happens years later, if at all), you can decide then if you want to continue a friendship or whatever with her, but for now, she clearly doesn’t want contact, so that means you just have to let her go.
ValoraParticipantHi, how old is she right now? You said she’s in the 10th grade, so she must be younger than 18. Aside from the fact that she’s given you very clear indication that she only thinks of you as a friend, I think the fact that she is under 18 and you are 4 years older is a big deal. The age gap tends to close as people get older, but that big of an age difference when one of the two is under 18 should be a deal breaker.
So I say, yes, definitely a good idea to move on and find someone else closer to your age to date, who is also clearly showing interest in dating you. You are sort of hitching your hopes to this one girl as being your one only because she talks to you often, but I think it would be good for you to realize that she isn’t really yours to “snatch away,” she will eventually find someone else to date and you’ll have to be okay with that if you want to continue a friendship while also being okay with it being JUST a friendship (with no guarantee of her ever changing her mind on that) as many girls can be friendly and talk to a guy every day without ever wanting to date them. I have lots of guy friends that I have known for decades that I talk to and hang out with often but have had absolutely no interest in anything other than friendship. It sounds like this girl feels the same about you.
ValoraParticipantHi Holly!
I know where you are coming from somewhat. I’m 37 and was single for 10 years after my daughter’s father and I broke up, had a 2-year relationship, and now have been single for another year and a half. So I get how lonely it can get sometimes and that you start thinking something is wrong with you… but there isn’t. I think dating is just hard these days for the reasons you’ve mentioned in your bullet points above, but please remember those things have nothing to do with you or your worth or what you have to offer.
Personally, I look at being single as a blessing in a way. There are advantages that you can’t get when you’re in a relationship. So during this next period of my life where I’ve been single for a while, I’ve been taking full advantage of those things… including organizing my house so that I can get everything in order and I’ll have more time later for when I get into a relationship, I went back to school, I bought a guitar (although still haven’t had much time to practice it due to other priorities), and I’m focusing on my kids and my friends. So try doing the things you really want to do too and try not to worry about finding the right guy at the moment.
I am a FIRM believer that the best relationships happen when you are’t looking. So do all of the things now that you won’t be able to do when your guy comes along, work on getting yourself (and your view of yourself) where you want to be… fix any issues you think you have, especially self-esteem if you believe yours to be low, because lack of confidence tends to not be so attractive and can cause problems in relationships, same goes for things like fear of abandonment. That can also sabotage relationships… if you don’t think you have much to offer, build up your skills and things that you value so that you feel like you have more of value to offer (but this is really more for you and to build your confidence… the right guy is going to like you for you as you are). Try not to get hung up on being older or worrying about men wanting someone younger either. It seems a lot of guys these days actually like older women, believe it or not. Just do all the things you need to do to prepare yourself for and make time in your life for a great relationship… get so happy with your life that you stop caring about finding a guy at all, and he’ll come along in perfect time.
ValoraParticipantI think one of the things that happened here was that you saw the red flags but decided not to pay attention to them. His actions have absolutely nothing to do with your worth. You changed everything and did whatever you could to make him happy, and he still didn’t appreciate it… which means no matter what you did or didn’t do, you weren’t likely going to keep him. He probably has some of his own issues going on too, but, regardless, he likely just wasn’t your match. So it isn’t that you weren’t “enough.” It’s that you and him just didn’t match up… which means your match is still out there, and to that guy, you will be eeeeverything.
Take this time to grieve and heal. As Mark said, be gentle with yourself, sit in your pain and feel it and then let it go as it comes. It’ll probably come in waves for a while, and it’s going to take some time, but you’ll feel better afterwards. Then, after you’ve had some time to heal and reset and start feeling like yourself again, start dating but set some boundaries. If someone doesn’t contact you for days but can get on Facebook? Don’t be afraid to call them out on that. Just calmly ask them to explain what’s going on… the person you’re dating should want to talk to your or at least check in. If their response doesn’t feel right to you, pay attention to that feeling. Use those feelings as a guide system and communicate them to your partner. Also, I wouldn’t let a partner get too nitpicky. My ex used to do that to me, too, and I’d put up with it but now I wish I hadn’t. I deserved better than that and so do you. Usually it means something’s going on with them and they’re grumpy, but it’s not okay to take it out on you. So that’s another thing that you’d want to talk to your partner about rather than just letting it slide. If you are with the person you are meant to be with… you will not lose them from healthy communication, and your needs are just as important as his.
Your ex was right that you do deserve better than how he was treating you, so take this time to heal, do some things that make you feel really good, hang with friends, learn some things you’ve always wanted to learn, rebuild your self esteem… and then find someone who treats you better…. and you’ll know when you find your match because he will be just as excited about you as you are about him. No doubts.
ValoraParticipantI do ask myself if there could be some other reality for me. Is there a relationship that I can feel secure and wanted in? Could I ever feel pretty enough for someone (small boobs and all)? Is there someone out there who would love to take me on dates?
I feel like, based on what you’ve said overall, this guy probably isn’t your match. You two might be able to make a relationship work with some effort, but I do think it’s likely there are other guys who would be attracted to you EXACTLY how you are, your body type, your personality, etc., and who would let you know daily how beautiful they think you are and you would not feel insecure with them (but make sure you believe these guys when they tell you what they see in you. Sometimes it’s hard to do that when you feel insecure). From what you’ve said, this guy doesn’t have a sort of natural attraction to you but I am 100% sure there are guys out there who will. That’s the type of guy you should be with. Someone you naturally connect with, and you will know it when you meet one because things will flow effortlessly and he will be very clearly interested without so much confusion.
As for this guy, it could be that you are a placeholder until he meets someone else, which would be why he came back every time you two broke up. He didn’t want to be alone. Please keep in mind this doesn’t mean anything negative about you, it’s more a reflection of himself. I could also be wrong and he may have genuinely had issues that prevented him from fully connecting with you, and in that case, you’ll have to work on trusting him. If you want to stay with him and see how it goes, I’d see if you could attend a therapy session with him and his counselor. Counselors are usually very open to having people come into sessions as long as the patient is okay with that, too.
June 21, 2019 at 9:34 am in reply to: very confused-new girlfriend, ex-girlfrend. Help me please #300195
ValoraParticipantIt still sounds to me like you’re fighting your feelings. Just let them be what they are. It’s okay that you still miss her. Your mind still has her on a pedestal but she is NOT the only person that you can feel this way with.
Have you started any counseling yet?
ValoraParticipantI’m saddened about this, as if I think is my fault. I was lesser than her… Maybe he is proud of her and not me. It’s like she won the contest and I am the sad looser. As sickening as it sounds, it is engraved in my mind by society that, you as a woman keep a man. And I didn’t…
Please don’t take this personally. I really, REALLY think it isn’t about you in any way. Try thinking about this another way…. this other girl that “won the contest” gets a guy that was constantly cheating on her. She won a pile of garbage. That’s NOT really winning. She was also there before you, so you could be literally the best person on the planet, and this guy won’t see it because he’s got his own issues and a previously formed attachment to her. Also, some guys wouldn’t know quality if it was standing there in front of them, flashing “QUALITY WOMAN” in lights and sirens, so it really isn’t good to place your worth on those guys. Know what I mean?
You’re right that society does ingrain this in our minds… that if we can’t keep a man that we aren’t worth it… but society is wrong about a lot of things, and this is a big one. Think of it this way…. the point of dating people is to find your true match… the person that you naturally connect with and are supposed to be with. If we continue to think that we have to keep a man (even a TERRIBLE one) because we are worthless if we don’t… how will we ever be free to find our match? We’d always be trying to hold onto the wrong ones just to feel good about ourselves while they make us feel bad about ourselves. It’s completely counterproductive.
So it’s not that you are less than or not worth it to this guy… he’s just not your match… and thank God because he’s very clearly a terrible boyfriend. Quite frankly, NO ONE is going to be his match until he grows up.
Above all…. please remember…. your worth does not and will never depend on what another person thinks or what another person chooses.
ValoraParticipantSofioula, based on what you’ve said, I don’t think it was because he was ashamed of you. I think he was hiding you because he’s also seeing someone else and that person is most likely integrated into his family which is probably why he won’t bring you around them.
I really don’t think this has anything at all to do with you and what kind of person you are or whether or not he’s ashamed of you. I think this is all him and his own issues, and it sounds like you can do a lot better.
ValoraParticipantReading your post of the list of his bad behavior… did you ever meet any of his family or friends during the time you were together? Given that he wouldn’t ever bring you around anyone, wouldn’t take you to parties, post about you on social media, or show you photos of vacations with friends, it’s sounding like were a side girl…. especially if you NEVER met his family. Meaning he had a girlfriend and you were the one he was cheating with… or he just has a bunch of side girls and doesn’t want any of them to find out about the others. When men are serious, they introduce their girlfriends to their friends and family and include them. If they don’t, there’s something wrong.
I’m sure he cared about you, which is why he would text you and maybe even call randomly, but you might want to rethink getting back together with him, if that’s what that text message was. He also might be trying to feed his ego and seeing if you’re still on the line. Either way, not texting back was probably the right thing to do. I’d forget about this one and find someone who will be proud to show you off to his friends and family and will want to truly include you in his life.
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