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Hi Tee,
it seems very short-sighted :/ So basically they fired the whole developer team because now the product is out on the market and they donât need you any more?
It is short-sighted for sure! but they are thinking how much money they’re saving for few month, and they only have two dev guys for bug fixing and in Product they only have like support girl. because they don’t want anything new
I thought in case you need money, perhaps you can relax your requirements. But of course, if itâs not such an urgent problem, you donât need to go back to the system you donât like
I mean yeah financal pressure is a real deal and I’m feeling it, but my other persona is rebeling against it like no just get what you want don’t compromise you’re gonna get what you want.
SereneWolfParticipantHi Tee,
Do you know what caused it?Well they said it’s for organizational restructure and for budget purposes. But mainly we all think they don’t want to pay to people for “building” or “managing” new services just because it’s working fine now so they think they can save thousands of dollars for few months… So basically, its like the full course meal is ready for them and they going to feed themselves on for few months.
Perhaps you can send some more applications, even for jobs that arenât remote only â to increase your chances?
Well you know I already feel missing out on things and less freedom because I had to go to the office sometimes and wasn’t able to change the cities. Now I don’t want to stuck in the same loop and feel the same way. Like I already feel like I’m getting old, and I haven’t seen this beautiful world enough..
SereneWolfParticipantHey Tee,
Apologies for the late reply, but I haven’t been feeling well. 40% of the workforce has been reduced at the company where I worked, and I was laid off. Now, I’m more anxious than ever to find a job.
I still haven’t heard from the companies where I applied. I don’t know what else I can do now instead of just losing hope…SereneWolfParticipantHeyya Tee,
Iâd easily slip into depression. And I need to battle that.
And youâre fighting this battle very well Tee, Keep it up đ
Haha, cats donât do anything if theyâre not happy â they always put themselves first. So she must be happy
I was wondering, So I have a friend who have 3 cats and her cats are so well behaved and healthy because her mother was around and I guess she taught her kitten to how to get around? But this kitten is like only a month old and she have no idea whatâs going on or how to do things. Thatâs why I have to take care of more than âNormalâ
She is hoping she found or will find a loophole in your armor, I guess.
Hmm she better know how stubborn I am.
Okay, if you also talk about your own vulnerability, and perhaps your own fears, and she is understanding, thatâs good. I guess you appreciate her being understanding and not judging you, right?
Yes I do appreciate that, and Itâs not like we talking everyday but stillâŚ
Iâve just looked up how FWB is defined. And it doesnât necessarily exclude emotional bond, but the most significant feature is lack of commitment. You said you have fear of commitment. It also makes you uncomfortable to say âI love youâ (or to hear her say it), I guess because it carries a future expectation of a committed relationship. So I guess if there is fear of the future and fear of commitment, even though youâre enjoying things at the moment, I guess that would still be defined as FWB.
Hmm I see, Well I guess then itâs my first FWB? Lol đ
And yeah there is fear of commitment there, I accept that, but you know that I donât want to move forward than FWB with this girl, So should I stay put and live in the moment while it last or should I do something else?
Not sure I understand your question. The article talks about how itâs easy to fall in love, when hormones are high and we might be seeing the person through rose-colored glasses. But once the honeymoon phase is over, we need to make an effort to understand the person, to work on ourselves and our own issues, to not project things on them etc. In that sense, love requires effort.
Ah thatâs right and thatâs why lot of young people are like that because most of the people donât like to put real efforts for love. They quit after the honeymoon phase. Iâm also did something similar, Whenever my relationship got complex, I just quit it. Though I did feel like I did put lot of efforts.
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Okay, so try to reduce reading about those mega success stories, because it makes you feel bad about yourself. And it would make most people bad about themselves. Itâs the worse when we compare ourselves to others, and thatâs exactly what your father and grandfather were doing to you, and now youâre doing it to yourself.
Yes youâre right. Iâm not using twitter anymore. I uninstalled it.
I wish you success!
Thanks a lot! đ
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You mean he tried to hit you and your mother only twice? But I thought heâd get angry with you often and scolded you for even the slightest mistake. You said he made you feel dumb whenever you made a mistake (the minute I make a mistake Iâm dumb). He was also comparing you to other students, telling you you should be grateful for the material support he is providing and why canât you learn better. He was also having perfectionist expectations on you. All this is emotional abuse, even though he wasnât physically violent.
I mean, his criticism didnât happen only twice, right? He wasnât displeased with you only twice, but it was a common theme, it happened all the time. You grew up feeling not good enough, due to his constant criticism and shaming. Thatâs emotional abuse, SereneWolf, not emotional neglect.
Ah Okay I see now, so his constant criticism and perfectionist expectations are also count as an emotional abuse. I thought itâs emotional neglect because he didnât care about my emotions or even noticed but I see your point now. I have to talk about this to my therapist as well!
Yeah, thatâs passive aggression, Iâd say. He doesnât want to say what he needs directly, but is scolding you and your brother for not reading his mind and assuming what he needs. He is making you guilty for something thatâs not your fault at all.
Yeah I know right!? I was this close to lose my mind. I mean whatâs problem in just saying clearly?
Not willing to take responsibility for oneâs actions and always blaming others is a mark of a toxic personality. It seems he is now less âin your faceâ about his expectations, but still does that indirectly, without saying it out loud, but still you can feel the sting.
I guess youâre right. How should I save myself from this? Even building boundaries isnât working much. And Iâm aware itâs his problem not mine but it does bother me.
Yes, they (your father and grandfather) made you feel guilty if you brought home anything less than straight As, right? They made themselves into martyrs, while you were the bad, ungrateful son/grandson for disappointing them and âtorturingâ them like that.
That was putting so much pressure on you. No wonder you felt like a burden â because they made you feel like one. And then you left home, because you didnât want to be guilt-tripped by them any more, right? You rejected their ânurturanceâ. You told your father: âI donât need your help to take care of myself. I know how to handle things.â So you were fed up with his guilt tripping and making you feel like a burden. You decided to be on your own. âSelf-sufficientâ at 16.
But do you see how this âself-sufficiencyâ is a defense mechanism? It was born out of being blamed all the time, feeling like a burden all the time, and wanting to break free from that. With moving out, you basically told your father âI donât need anything from youâ. But thatâs not true â the child always needs support from their parents, both material and emotional. But this was a defense mechanism, because you didnât want to endure that blame and guilt-tripping any more.
Yes you understood very well! But after all this you still think I need emotional support of my parents? Because I just started to feel validated without their validation.
So I started working much earlier without even getting my bachelorâs first then I was blaming myself that I didnât focused on my studies like other people otherwise Iâd be more educated nowâŚ
In order to support yourself, you had to work, and so no wonder that you couldnât get your bachelorâs degree on time. But then you blamed yourself for not studying enough like other people. Well, now itâs time to stop blaming yourself and understand that leaving home was a self-protection mechanism, born out of despair and not wanting to be abused any more. So instead of blaming yourself, try to find compassion for yourself â for the young boy of 16 who ventured out into the world to support himself, because his family was emotionally so cruel to him. So rejecting. So conditional love.
And congratulate yourself because youâve managed to get your bachelorâs later on, in spite of working full time, which is always much harder. And now youâre even in the process of getting a masterâs degree, if I remember well? So congratulate yourself for all your educational achievements, even if you got them a few years later than planned, due to objective circumstances.
Remember, youâre not lazy and âgood for nothingâ, but itâs that you needed to work in parallel with studying, which makes you actually a high achiever. Even though your father believes you are âless thanâ, tell yourself that you are a high achiever and very resilient. Because you made it in spite of the objective difficulties.
Wow thatâs powerful! Thanks a lot Tee, Thanks for pointing out and made me more aware about this! And yes I think main reason for all this is that Iâve always been and still blaming myself for everything that happened. Being too much âSelf-sufficientâ like itâs all my responsibility, Like I couldâve done better, even though I was just doing things as per my circumstances. Thatâs why itâs been hard for me find compassion for myself. And yes Iâm indeed a high achiever and very resilient. Thanks again for your positive reminder! I appreciate it đ¤
Oh yes, neuroplasticity is a great thing, because our neural circuits can literally change as we focus on positive things and start having a more positive mindset.
Yes it is!
Well, it seems like youâre still comparing yourself to others in terms of professional success, and are feeling âless thanâ and that you havenât achieved enough etc. I hope what I said above might help you put things into perspective and have more empathy for yourself and your life path so far.
Yes youâre right and yeah what you said is really helpful! I did learned empathy but for others, I think I still have to learn having more empathy and compassion for myself.
Yes, try to focus less on other peopleâs achievements. Donât compare yourself to others. We all have our individual stories and our unique challenges. We also all have different lessons to learn in life. You only need to focus on yourself and your own life.
100% Right!
SereneWolfParticipantHey Tee,
my condition is still fluctuating, so I am still looking for something to give me better relief. But not losing hope, soâŚ
Oh Iâm sorry to hear that, But itâs really impressive itâs been a while and youâre still standing strong with hope. Love that. Your strong spirit is helping you for not getting weaker. I hope you feel better soon.
Good â seems she is getting more tame as the time goes by
Yeah but cats doesnât smile like dogs, So Iâm worried if sheâs happy with me lol
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Yeah, sure, sharing intimacy, being vulnerable, opening up when something is bothering us⌠itâs precious to have someone we can do that with, without being judged and ridiculed.
Yup that is REALLY precious
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Yes, I think so too. She is hoping you would come around and start really bonding with her. She is hoping sheâll melt you finally
Well is that her overconfidence or she found some loophole? đ
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Okay, she is taking the conscious riskâŚ
Doctors are good at taking risks you know
What are you craving from her?
Iâm not sure, Itâs been a while since Iâm little vulnerable with someone, Sheâs understanding so we talk about lot of stuff. And yeah, I did have physical cravings for so long. That includes hand holdings to all the way to sleeping together.
I think that women bond quicker emotionally if there is sex involved. So if you keep having sex, sheâll definitely get even more attached, while for you itâs a question, specially since you have attachment issues. But it seems she is willing to take that risk, since she is hoping you might change (or that she might change you)âŚ
Oh I see thatâs interesting, Since women are naturally more emotional thatâs why sex affects them even more, But the thing is that even though I have attachment issues, I do get attached with women even though itâs not only for sex. Otherwise FWB would be easier for me. Because even for sex I need to have at least good level of trust, bond and attraction.
Yeah, maybe itâs like Facebook â you start comparing yourself to other people and start feeling less than⌠so probably LinkedIn is something that triggers your inner critic and makes you feel bad about yourself. Maybe it would be better if you didnât read those success stories, but only the information related to job openingsâŚ
Yes even in Twitter just influencer gurus are everywhere, Do this and change your life, 7 figure income in your 20s and blah blah blah they make it sounds so easy, and be like itâs that easy why youâre not doing it?
Are you still trying to find a completely remote job, so you can work from anywhere?
Yes mam, I have some interviews soon
She tried to calm you (the child) down, so you wouldnât provoke him (the adult)?
I think so yeah
It seems your father wasnât just an emotionally bully, but also potentially a physical bully, and there was a danger of domestic violence. And so your mother did everything to prevent that violence â by basically being obedient and trying to appease him, and also trying to control you and reason with you to be more âmatureâ (even if you were just a child).
Your grandfather was similar in character to him, and I guess your father actually received a similar treatment from his own father, right?
Yes thatâs right
It was only your grandmother (your fatherâs mother?) who warned him and he sort of admitted that it wasnât the right thing to do. After that, has he tried to hit you or your mother again, or that was the only incident?
My fatherâs mother. After that he never tried to hit me or even raise his voice to my mother or me. Like I said only two times it happened but it was traumatic enough for me, Before I was in primary school and I donât even remember it properly, But also that time I raised my voice at him.
Just today Me and my brother talked to him on conference call, He was like you’re both adults you should know things I shouldn’t have to tell you. and I told him clearly that I don’t prefer just assuming things, whatever is it just say things clearly. He’s like no you’re adults you should be aware about this. and the matter was that my grandparents are sick so he be like me and my brother are irrepressible for not knowing to offer for more financial help. I mean we knew that they’re sick but how we’d know that they need more help? and he was like I waited for days that you’d call and offer? I’m like what? Just don’t wait and tell me things like that directly! He was like this is common sense so you should know. Really made me angry đ
But I guess his mindset didnât change much. He thought he can yell at you and bully you as much as he pleases, while you should stay silent and ârespectâ your father. That father is âgodâ and children shouldnât talk back. A very toxic attitude.
YES EXACTLY! He think everything he does is right and it always otherâs fault.
And I guess you didnât want to bow down to him, you didnât want to show respect to him, and thatâs what caused friction. And I guess thatâs why you left home so early?
Since my teenage I was very clear about values that I respect and even at that age lot of things which was âCoolâ for other kids was clearly nonsense for me. So clearly his unfair anger was really irritating for me, And my main reason to left home early was to get freedom and stand up by myself. And sorta tell my father that I donât need your help to take care of myself. I know how to handle things. So thatâs what I did.
Another thing is that when you have that kind toxic person around you donât feel that good you know so I just wanted to leaveâŚ
He was extremely toxic, SereneWolf. He brutally criticized and shamed you for even the slightest mistake. No wonder you got traumatized by that. He expected you to be âgratefulâ for the material stuff that he was providing, while of course you couldnât be grateful when he was putting you down so mercilessly.
Emotional support is much more important for a child than having material abundance. He gave zero emotional support. What you experienced from him was emotional abuse. (In the beginning you said youâre suffering from childhood emotional neglect. Well, this was not neglect, this was emotional abuse.)
Itâs emotional abuse even it happened one or two times?
Who is âtheyâ? Your father and grandfather?
Yes
No wonder you started having issues at school later â it could have been a consequence of the emotional abuse youâve been experiencing at home. You were under so much pressure you couldnât take it any more. It could have even been a way of rebelling too. Sometimes we rebel because we canât bear to be oppressed like that. I guess one way you rebelled was to leave home, but perhaps having issues at school was another way, only subconscious?
Yes it made me so desperate to just earn and live on my own, I didnât wanted to be burden on them. They always made me feel like they did so much for me and it felt like burden to me! So I started working much earlier without even getting my bachelorâs first then I was blaming myself that I didnât focused on my studies like other people otherwise Iâd be more educated nowâŚ
Thatâs great! Maybe the term youâre looking for is self-fulfilling prophecy: you expect good things, and then good things happen to you. And vice versa. In any case, I am glad that youâre more open to praise and that it helps you feel better about yourself.
I searched itâs called experience-dependent neuroplasticity. When we focus on the good, Good happens. Itâs about positive mindset or positive perspective of life
When you heal your inner child and completely dismiss the inner critic⌠but youâre doing great, youâre making progressâŚ
So currently what internal challenges that I have? What do you think?
Maybe the drill sergeant shows up when youâre looking at LinkedIn and start comparing yourself with others? This voice is actually your fatherâs and grandfatherâs voice, because they were always comparing you with others. Itâs great you have Uncle Iroh as the antidote!
Right Iâm just trying to consume less information. Thereâs just too much noise everywhere. In this noise it feels like my own inner voice is getting lost.
Well, one explanation could be that love is not just words (âI love youâ), itâs also deeds â the things we do to show our love and appreciation every day. Okay, Iâve just looked it up, and the first thing that came up in search was an article titled âWhy love is a choice you make every day.â
The article is worth reading, but basically the main point is: âIt may feel easy to find love at first â your hormones are leading the way. Building love, which implies emotional intimacy, may take effort and action.â
From the PsychCentral? I mean like does that mean we should do everything out of love not for the love?
SereneWolfParticipantBonjour Tee,
How are you doing? Howâs your weekend going?
 How are you getting along with her? Does she allow to be cuddled?
Well now she does. She just comes and sleeps on my lap or belly occasionally. She also let me pet her head when sheâs in the mood otherwise my finger is like a chewing toy for her.
Yes, itâs good to have someone to share difficult moments with, not to be alone with our grief. But having a partner just so they can console us in hard times would be a bit unfair to them. I mean, the goal would be to have a full spectrum of emotional intimacy, in both good and bad times. Thatâs the point of a healthy relationship.
I mean yeah I know that thatâs what relationship is about sharing intimacy. So I didnât mean only for grief, Obviously something more than that
Hmmm⌠I thought she was smarter than that. Instead of learning to be on her own for a while, she offered you a friends-with-benefits arrangement. Thatâs hurtful, specially for women, because they usually get more attached than men. And in the case of you two, we know that she is much more attached to you than you to her. So I think she is putting herself in a situation which she will regret.
I feel sheâs acting like one of my first LDR (Long-term) girl, She also acted like this because she doesnât want to lose contact. I guess she still may have hope that she can change things. And another thing is that I still do enjoy talking to her and we talk about lot of things than just sex. Sex is just like a plus point. Also sheâs aware that I have no experience for FWB yet or neither does she. So I wonât be purely doing that. Other intimate things will be included. Women are like clever fox lol
What you really think women get attached than men? But yeah for this case yes.
And we did talked about it very openly and I said if we still continue like this it would be harder to move on later on. She said she is aware of this but she said she would even like this regret. So I said itâs not wrong to create more memories together. But I did said Iâm not sure so we still take things slowly⌠and I accept I do crave things from her thatâs why Iâm not able to directly say No to her.
Well, I personally donât view sex in the same rank of physical needs as eating, drinking or getting enough sleep. Itâs not a part of self-care. So I donât think it will help you be more productive, if thatâs what you meant. But you know yourself best â have you noticed that sex makes you more productive at work?
I mean you know you didnât had sex for a very long time and then suddenly sex is in your routine? You know because of my past LDRs I wasnât able do physical things. So it kinda makes me feel like desperate for sex? Yet I do still try to control myself but her libido is also high so it doesnât help much. And I love morning sex it makes me feel energetic and it fills me up with good vibes and after having morning sex I donât have any sexual or needy thoughts during the day you knowâŚ
You feel that anxiety in social situations or with work-related tasks?
Yes, mainly work and career related things. Maybe I should use LinkedIn less. It makes me feel behind and somewhat jealous and question my abilities. In LinkedIn there are informative stuff but also lot of âSuccessâ posting so..
Also lot of company is laying off people, so I just started to apply for different positions while ago which is also the stressful situation because even after applying for lot of job there isnât much positive feedback yet
I am happy if they did show emotional support in some situations. But your mother, if I understood well, was your fatherâs enabler. She enabled him to criticize you and verbally abuse you without intervening. She basically told you to endure it and to be âmatureâ about it. She failed to protect you. Thatâs a big omission. And itâs not something that happened once or twice, but consistently. The whole situation was so unbearable that you left home at the age of 16. Those are no small thingsâŚ
Yeah thatâs like we talked before, Even though your father was aware he wasnât able to protect you, So is my mother. And another thing I guess I didnât told you is that my mother was worried about physical fight and something would happen to me, because if I remember only two times my father lost control and tried to physically hurt me and also hurt my mother when she tried to save me and when I saw that I didnât showed him respect like I donât care who you are you canât treat us like that it would made him even more angry he be like you canât disrespect me like that donât raise your voice in front of me. And I would just be like this is nonsense and go to my room and not talk him for a day or two. And yet all my family (Not my siblings) is like itâs just his anger he didnât mean any harm. Iâm like Iâm the kid here or is heâs the kid that he canât even control his anger? You can bow down to his anger but I wonât. Literally even my relatives says like oh just ignore that he just have some anger tendencies⌠A good son shouldnât disrespect his father. But that time only my grandma told him like what are you even doing? Thatâs how you treat your kids? and he did accept that it was his fault and heâs sorry. Only to my grandma not in front of me. Otherwise, his âprideâ would hurt. And after that my mother knew that If anything happens again Iâd disrespect him again and it would make things worse between us.
Sorry for long rant
Okay, so you felt your father was kind and âlovingâ to you only if you performed well at school? You felt that when he praised you, he expected no less than top performance from you? You had to be No1, or else he wouldnât be pleased? (I am just trying to understand what you said earlier that you felt that people are insincere when they praise you and that they want something in return. So perhaps this behavior doesnât come from your mother, but from your father?)
Yes thatâs right and the minute I make a mistake Iâm dumb. He be like I did this and that and some people are not even able to provide daily necessities to their kids and yet theyâre performing well then what do you need? They didnât tell this to my face but I knew their thinking and I did like studying they never had to tell me like go and study like my siblings. They still believe Iâm a âgood performingâ student even though my attention span and curiosity for studying is worse now
Itâs good that youâre more open to compliments. Because if the inner critic is strong, it will disregard even the strongest evidence. That happens in the impostor syndrome. But if you silence the inner critic a bit and allow yourself to receive praise, without immediately dismissing it, thatâs a good start.
I donât remember whatâs that term called but itâs like what you think is what you see? So I guess if Iâm hearing good things about myself, I do feel good things about myself and after that I notice even more better things..
Allow yourself to receive that praise from your therapist and accept that youâre actually doing good and having results pretty quickly. So donât dismiss it as false praise, but allow yourself to be satisfied with yourself.
Ah the feeling of satisfied with myself! Damn when will I get that? But yeah I started to take positive praise with some critical thinking so Iâm not dismissing entirely. Weâre imperfect beings after all, Always evolving like universe, and weâre part of this universe so..
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Right. So the drill sergeant is still active, still pushing you to do more and faster. Try to notice it and then stop yourself, i.e. invite the good general (forgot his name, sorry) to come to your rescue and send the drill sergeant away.
Yeah that drill sergeant! I do think most of the time heâs not even there he just comes up when Iâm feeling down about something and I do try to listen to Good general (Uncle Iroh)
Now I do have friendly inner voice and him. Like I said before I act like Iâm my own friend and try to handle the situation if Iâm telling myself bad things and Uncle Iroh kinda makes it even better.
Just yesterday I read on a post that says âLove is not just a feeling, It is a daily choice that we make.â What does that mean? Can you elaborate if you know?
SereneWolfParticipantHeyya Tee,
How’s your weekend going?
Yeah sure, thatâs what I meant: you were/are feeling down because you are missing your cat. And thatâs what makes you more susceptible to overeating (which is a form of misguided self-soothing and self-regulation). We feel comforted when we eat, and you needed comfort, so itâs kind of logicalâŚ
That makes sense
Haha⌠no. If caring about your cat and petting her gave you emotional relief, you should find a new cat, not a new girlfriend
I kinda already have a new cat (Even though itâs not mine) But I mean like someone to share that grief with?
Thatâs nice of your neighbor, but perhaps you need a little more time before adopting another cat?
I guess so because she makes me miss her even more. Although sheâs a feral cat. So not easy to handle. She almost looks like a tiny cute cheetah.
Usually when we watch TV while eating, we end up eating more, because we donât really pay attention to food and our sense of being satiated. Is this your experience too?
Yes it’s like that
Btw, are you binge eating on healthy food or comfort food, if I may ask?
Iâm very aware of what I eat so 99% of the time itâs heathy handmade cooked food.
Right⌠well, itâs still primarily your physical looks/well-being that she is interested in. Because she notices that youâre skinny, and so she asks if youâre stressed. Maybe she is interested in your emotional well-being too. But to be honest, based on what you told me about your childhood, I donât think your mother had/has a real interest in your emotional well-being. Because when you were exposed to your fatherâs rage attacks, she would tell you to tolerate it and not make a fuss about it. So thatâs not really emotionally supportive.
Well you do have a point there but we canât point out that single thing for her emotional support can we? Because she and my grandma lifted me up when I was feeling down time to time.
Oh so you were basically vegan! Thatâs tough, I tried it once, and it was too much for me. I would be fine being a vegetarian, I donât really need meat. But I do need dairy products, so veganism is not for me.
Well yeah I started to like dairy products more, Specially yogurt and buttermilk. I still donât consume cheesy things, but Iâll try more cheesy recipes when Iâm in different country.
Cool⌠But one thing to keep in mind is that a part of your âcalmnessâ is suppressing your anger, right? I mean, you appear calm in front of people, but inside you might be boiling. Thatâs a very useful skill (control of emotional reactions), and I guess you developed it by mindfulness? But on the log run, the goal is to heal some of that anger, so that you donât feel so threatened and afraid of judgment in social situations.
Yes I agree with you, But nowadays I feel anxious and scared like lot of What Ifs, What if it this happens and what if this goes wrong which is depleting my energy and self-esteem
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Yes, we are attracted to people who possess the qualities we donât, or which we might have suppressed. So if you are calm (or at least seem calm) and detached, and she is too emotionally reactive, your calmness and poise is what might have attracted her to you. So what we believe we miss, we look for in others. Or for example, the person who is shy and lacks self-esteem might be attracted to someone who is self-confident and extroverted.
Ahh Right I guess thatâs what happened between me and her. And yeah Iâm somewhat easily attracted to âExtrovertedâ Types but then I find them too much⌠But tbh finding introvert girl isnât easy and even if you do you have to have lot of patience and itâs irritating if there will be no results after the input.
Talking about her, we met yesterday and she asked me that if itâs okay If we still be in physical things. And Iâm thinking about saying yes. Because maybe ignoring my physical needs isnât letting me properly focus on more important day to day things?
Thatâs good! He might have sensed that youâre fragile and sad, due to your catâs death, and so he was behaving himself. Or perhaps even your mother told him to behave himselfâŚ
I donât know what happened but Iâm glad at least he sensed that much or even listened to my mother.
I understand⌠you believe everybody is like your father or grandfather. Or maybe like your mother, who wasnât always honest with you? (You did say you donât like when people act kind to you, only to get something from you. And I think you mentioned your family in that context too.) So you might have a really bad model there: the people closest to you either being very judgmental, or not being honest (not having the purest intentions) when they praised you?
Yes thatâs right thatâs how it was in my childhood, For example my father gave me the very expensive bike because I ranked first in my primary school.
Well, we need to have discernment of course. But if you hear the same praise from more people, that should tell you itâs most probably true. If you cannot accept compliment at all, thatâs a sign that the inner critic has the upper hand.
Iâm just starting to be more open about compliments. Before I wouldnât even give an attention to it. Now I think it would be better for my self-esteem. Because it has more âEvidenceâ to backup. Because inner critic is super rational and have more negative perception and I think providing evidence would help.
Also I had a session with my therapist. She said Iâm doing good so far.
She even told me that I donât listen to my inner critic that much like before, Which is impressive she said that lot of the people she worked with it took lot of time but Iâm doing well in shorter time span. She also said how much things Iâm doing on my own (Also with your help đ So thanks)
She asked me lot of questions about my current situation and how I feel. And said that my inner child wants to live in slower pace, but my fierce need to get things done doesnât letting it happen. Thatâs why I feel restless. And like that I have many two-faced tendencies like that I need to work on.
SereneWolfParticipantHello Tee,
I am on the lookout for other healing modalities, since the pain is fluctuating, it always comes back. So I need to find something that will give me a more lasting relief.
I see, I hope you find a good one. Take care of yourself đ
How’s your weekend going?I am sorry about that. It could be that the loss of your cat leads you to feeling more sensitive and down. And this can contribute to resorting to self-soothing tools, such as overeating. Because a lot of us use food to soothe ourselves, specially if the only nurturing we had in childhood was physical nurturing. If instead of being emotionally nurtured, we were given food whenever we were upset, thatâs a perfect recipe for developing eating disorders later.
I mean youâre right but I think itâs also could be like Iâm not someone who mostly misses someone? Not even people who are really close to me, But I do miss my cat maybe thatâs why? Because itâs kind of a dysregulation? And I accept that she did gave me like a good emotional relief so now Iâm like should I find a new gf and cuddle her? Just for that emotional relief you knowâŚBut I know it’s not a proper fix.
Also good news is that since my Neighbour (If you remember I play with her kid) rescued a cat and told me that I can have her as long as I want, It does making me feel little better but still making me miss her more.
And yup as you guessed Iâm overeating and even (like the most time) to not overthink while eating I started watching anime or movie while having my meals.
Seems you mother was similar to mine: mostly interested in your physical nurturance (and physical well-being), but in terms of emotions, not really supportive.
Well she does asks me if Iâm stressed about something or not, because they think one of the reason people are skinny is that theyâre stressed. And also, sheâs not much aware about modern mental health things (Americans have like hundreds of them and like each trait have a name)
Yes, that too is typical. Iâve just watched a video on binge eating, which explains that by the evening we have already been exposed to various stressors during the day, and our stress tolerance gets depleted. Thatâs why we have a greater need to soothe ourselves in the evening. Besides, thatâs when most of the people come home from work and have the need to relax and unwind⌠and so eating too much becomes a part of that ritual.
Oh thatâs right it does makes sense!
The title of the video is âHow to stop binge eatingâ, by psychotherapist Kati Morton. She also explains what to do to help ourselves. One of her suggestions, in fact her first suggestion, is the same what you doctor friend told you: to eat at least 3-4 times a day, and to have snacks in between to prevent getting extremely hungry and then overeat.
She has other useful tips too, like not restraining yourself and dieting because thatâs only going to produce a counter-effect. Also to observe our inner voice, because the inner critic can get very loud when we overeat, or donât eat as healthy as we would like to. I know from my own experience that I used to berate myself for my ED, and it was strengthening my inner critic, making me feel very bad about myself. And then Iâd need something to soothe myself, and ended up eating again.. so it was a vicious circle.
Hmm yeah thatâs true back then I used to be very aware of my âDietâ and always thinking like this food is bad and that food is bad so in my early teens (When I just started using internet)
How is this food and blah blah because there would be some articles which would be saying that yeah this food is bad. So because of that I didnât had like healthy fats and mostly pure vegetarian for a very long time, Iâd be eating mostly green vegetables, No milk or even rice because I thought it makes people fat and because years of misconception my body just adapted it like that. So thatâs what Iâm trying to change.
She seems like a pretty self-observant person, willing to learn and grow. She was honest with you and explored the reasons why she felt like going back to her ex. And she realized that itâs maybe because she is scared of being alone. But now, sheâs realized that this is exactly what she needs⌠So a learning moment for her! I like her
Haha okay so even for this Iâm somewhat responsible, Because we did talk deep level things and she did asked me about the way I am and you know that she likes my âCalmâ so I did tell her very clearly that itâs all self-awareness and mindfulness. So she got more interested about self-improvement and stuff so
Hmmm, yeah, I mean you gave her a different perspective. And maybe she does need to find herself a little more, to become less needy and less craving for attention, for being the center of her partnerâs universe. Because she did say things like that, if I remember well. If thatâs the case, sheâd need to learn how to be more self-sufficient. Which is what youâre an expert in
Hmm I see, So a question, so as human beings do we always try to fulfil other people that weâre good at? If so, Why is this drive?
Itâs good that you donât tolerate his open criticism, so he isnât even trying any more. I just wanted to ask you if there was a situation where he started criticizing you but you stopped him. But then I remembered that you mentioned that you did challenge him once on the phone and told him that if he cannot talk to you normally, better not talk at all, right? And then he hang up, but then called you back a few days later?
Yes thatâs right
I guess that was his lesson, and he learned that he canât be openly rude with you. And I can imagine your mother talked to him too and convinced him to speak nicely to you⌠So I guess he is suppressing his need to judge you, but itâs still there in him, and comes out indirectly, in the form of those veiled remarks and comparisons with other people.
I guess so yeah.. They visited me this weekend with both of my siblings. And so far this time he didnât even compared this time.
But for that, youâd need to be judgment-proof. Almost like bullet-proof. Youâd need to let those arrows slide from you, like from a shield. Which means that youâd need to have your âarmorâ on whenever you talk to your father, and not let anything in. What is also super important is to diminish the voice of your inner critic, because your inner critic is like a Trojan horse â he opens the door and lets the arrows hit you. I am using the military analogy again, but perhaps it helps?
Yes I understood it well, Iâll try it like that
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It seems to me youâre disregarding the positive input from people,
I guess because I never had that in my childhood and only criticism so now itâs just hard to trust what people say
because you want to believe youâre not attractive enough. Itâs like the impostor syndrome, when we believe that we cannot possibly be talented, that our success happened by chance and not by our merit. With this too â your inner critic is telling you youâre not good looking (or not muscular enough or whatever), and you rather believe him than the feedback you receive from people.
It means should I believe in positive feedback? If so how youâd determine what to let in or let out
Also just a side note, Are you working from home? I found this from a LinkedIn post, and it says whenever you’re working always play a Instrumental/LoFi music that you like… and I think it’s actually helping me focus more and somewhat in better mood and less anxious as well.
SereneWolfParticipantHey Tee,
no, I canât do yoga, it can actually add to the problem, in my case. But I do other types of exercises.
Hmm I see. Have you a found new doctor?
Great, keep it up!
But lately I feel like not doing anything, hopeless and Iâm missing my cat too!
Oh she said itâs only your fault? Well, thatâs not true really, because talking about reconciliation with her ex is a pretty big problem and it would be for any relationshipâŚ
I know right?
So she isnât going back to her ex? She wanted to return to you but you said No â is that how it happened?
Yes. After getting back from the trip she said she thought about it a lot and she donât think getting back together with her ex is a good idea. She did open up with me and told me maybe that idea of being alone is just scary for her and sheâs just not used to it. And we talked about how I handled to live all by myself for yearsâŚ
After that she was like yeah I can try for sometime without being in a relationship.
So did I just spread my disease into her? đ
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Yep, itâs rather notorious⌠and it affects every part of your life. So yeah, more inner child work, self-love and all that..
For sure!
Yes, it is irritating. But you canât really change them, so you need to learn to live with it, but not allow abuse, of course. You can tolerate it once in a while when you come to visit, but donât allow to stick to you. Try to be like teflon â things just slide from it and donât stick
Haha thatâs a good example. Iâll try that more since they already see me as a laid back guy it lol
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You see? You too realize that self-esteem is key for not being too bothered with such comments. So you can do it too, work on loving and valuing yourself even moreâŚ
Yes thatâs right!
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I hope all three of you will learn how to be less sensitive and more self-confident. Good that your sister too realizes that your father and grandfather wonât change much. That means you shouldnât even try. However, you can set boundaries and not allow verbal or emotional abuse. In fact, itâs kind of a two-pronged action: you work on yourself to become less triggered, but you also set boundaries so they canât just mistreat you without consequences.
Youâre right how can I make myself become less triggered? I mean there is boundaries there somewhat. My father doesnât disrespect me anymore otherwise he knows Iâm not going to just listen to him silently.
Okay, so that would be binge eating then. Do you have days when you eat way too much and sort of cannot control yourself?
Hmm yeah but not too often. But just today I did that. Maybe the times when I feel like not doing anything else Iâd just eat.
Yeah, I am also not a breakfast person because I eat relatively late in the evening (I know, not a good strategy). So I am not hungry in the morning. But just the fact that you only have two proper meals isnât in itself disordered eating. Itâs maybe that you overeat in the evening, and you feel guilty about it? So then you starve yourself the next day, but then eat too much in the evening again? I was like that for a while, thatâs why I am asking.
My mum wouldnât allow me to eat that much late lol because her first question on the phone is always, did you ate? And yeah usually I do eat a lot in the evenings. During the day itâs okay but at evening I always eat a lot.
I did talked to my doctor friend and she suggested me to have small but 4-5 meals per day for healthy weight gain but I think thatâs hard to manage for me
Do you mean youâd like to get praise/affirmation from people that you look good? But you said sometimes in the beginning of your posting on tinybuddha that you do get compliments for your looks, which you sort of shrug off. If I understood well?
Yes you remembered it well, Iâm confused about it, because I donât like when I need external validation, but external validation does kind of helps to believe in thingsâŚfaster? I donât know.
SereneWolfParticipantHey Tee,
As for myself, I too am feeling a little better. Hopefully it wonât be temporary, like last time.
You do yoga right?
Yes, itâs important that youâre aware of it and working on it. Are you still doing the journaling (writing down your fears and resentments)?
I didnât do it while I was at my hometown but now that Iâm back to the city Iâll continue.. and I do feel better while journaling. Also letting things happen by itself and just trust the divine so I donât feel overwhelmed by everything.
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I see⌠so youâd want her to stick around to prove her love. Although you didnât let her say âI love youâ and were not showing that you care about her too much⌠so yes, itâs kind of a contradiction. If you want her to stick around, youâd need to show it tooâŚ
Yes I know that, But because sheâs taking time and still sticking to past, Thatâs why I told her no. She reacted like I did this entirely by myself. But she didnât argue much after that. She hugged me tight and kissed and still asked me to just friends? I said Iâll think and answer, And after I said No she said She wonât get back together with her ex either. I said itâs your decision, If you donât need to be in rush, Donât rush.
Okay, I understand this makes you upset, but I think the first thing you should do is become more immune to those indirect judgments. To know that you are good enough as you are. So those veiled comments will not bother you so much.
Yeah that good enough feeling isnât that easy. Is it? haha
And then you can decide what you want to do â whether it makes sense to ask your father not to mention other people to you, or to let it go. If you are not so triggered, it will be easier to take it lightly, e.g. to change the topic, or say âYeah, he/she is doing quite wellâ (you sort of agree with them).
You donât need to start justifying yourself, you just acknowledge that this person is doing well, while knowing inside of yourself that you too are doing well and that you are good enough. If you are not judging yourself, their judgments will carry less weight too.
I mean Iâm aware of that, and I donât have like any kind of jealousy. But me and my siblings are worried that they (My Father and grandpa) arenât like a children then they shouldnât behave like this, They should be happy with what they have and have feeling of satisfaction. Instead of always complaining this is wrong and that is wrong. Thatâs just irritating for all of us.
Good! Are your siblings supportive of you? Do they get similar treatment from your father and grandfather?
Yes Iâm really lucky that my siblings are really supportive. And yeah they do get similar treatment from my father and grandfather. My little brother somewhat doesnât much bothered because I can sense his self-esteem, But yeah heâs annoyed as well, However for my sister sheâs quite sensitive, Maybe even more sensitive than me. But she also accepted that there is not much chances of them changing
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I just checked, BMI of 19 is not undernourished, but on the border. But you say you do a eat a lot and arenât vomiting, which doesnât really qualify as anorexia or bulimia. Does it mean you have periods of indulging in food and then starving yourself, not to gain weight? Because that too can be disordered eating â sort of swinging from one extreme to the other.
Hmm well swinging from one extreme to the other Iâd say yes. Also I only have two big meals per day. Lunch and dinner. I skip breakfasts.
EDs are always related to nurturance, I think. In my family, food was the only âpleasureâ that was not judged, so basically it was okay if I ate a lot, I wasnât judged for that. But I was for just about everything else. So I guess thatâs also one of the reasons food became my âdrugâ of choice.
Oh I see, Thatâs why you had anorexia
Yes, it seems you donât feel good enough, in this case attractive enough physically. Which is just another manifestation of feeling not good enough in general. I guess that in reality, things are a little different, because you did say earlier that you get compliments for your looks, and you do get attention from pretty girls, right? So you not feeling attractive enough is something you are telling yourself â itâs a part of your inner critic. And you know how to treat that inner critic, donât you?
Yes I do not listen much to that critic but I think I have to get more positive input or affirmation or something like that on that part?
SereneWolfParticipantCoucou Tee,
Yes, I was feeling down because there is no progress with my healing. I am trying to stay optimistic, but itâs not always easy.
I can totally understand that. And I really admire your courage to keep going and still staying optimistic because I do know itâs not always easy. Are you feeling any better though?
But I think a part of your âcoolnessâ is that you donât actually allow yourself to get attached, because youâre afraid of getting hurt. There is a fear there, and thatâs why this emotion (love, desire to connect and bond with someone) is missing. It is suppressed as well, but on a deeper level, I think.
Hmm right but Iâm already working on it and I shouldnât be more rigorous about it now. Right? Or is there any daily practice I can improve or implement or update?
I know youâre not worried about ending the relationship. I mean a part of you feels revealed, right? However, I think you should be honest with yourself and ask yourself: am I really upset that she is not sure about me, or am I using this as an excuse to take my leave?
I guess the part the she isnât sure about me, itâs just making it easier for me take my leave, I thought about more and I may be craving that feeling when someone is scared of losing me, and even if theyâre scared theyâd take actions???
On the other hand I know itâs unreasonable to expect that level of strong connection if I donât show her that type of connection or loveâŚ
I see⌠theyâre not criticizing you directly, but comparing you to other people, and then you feel indirectly criticized and judged, right? Do you also feel it in their tone of voice â that theyâre not pleased with you and expect you to do more?
Yes Exactly!
Yes, taking voice notes is a great idea too. Have you talked to your father in the meanwhile?
No I didnât. I felt much better after talk it out to my siblings
Yes, addiction is a very frequent consequence of C-PTSD. So you say youâre suffering from anorexia? I myself suffered both from anorexia and bulimia. We can talk more about it, if youâd like. I realized that for myself, anorexia was about rejecting nurturance, because my mother didnât give me the proper kind of nurturance (emotional), but only physical food. And it wasnât good enough. I needed to be loved and appreciated â feeding me and meeting my physical needs wasnât enough (and my mother thought thatâs the only thing a child needs).
I guess I was in the same situation. Pressure from my father and grandfather because they wanted me to achieve things which they think is more appropriate for them.. So because of that they would give me more than enough kind of nurturance. But after I started living on my own Iâm super aware of what I eat and really insecure about my body image so yeah anorexia nervosa. But also the bulimia except no vomiting. My body type is Pitta, So my metabolism is high so I eat a lot a lot, Yet my bodyweight is still low. My BMI is still around 19. I guess Hypothyroidism may also be part of it but Iâm not sure.
But another thing is that even though Iâm insecure about my body image. Because I do think I have to be in normal range weight (Iâm not super skinny but like not super healthy looking either) I have to gain muscles, have better skin.etc All the girls Iâve been with was like what we say âOut of my leagueâ if we seeing things from that way. Yet still I didnât felt good enough and it damaged my self-esteem even more?
Oh I see⌠thatâs frustrating when youâre trying everything, and itâs still not working :/ How is it now, any new developments?
Yes. Luckily itâs getting much better. I found whole new way and Iâm seeing good positive results
You were close to her and now she is gone⌠I am so sorry.
Itâs good that you cried and allowed yourself to feel it all⌠Hold on, SereneWolfâŚ
Iâm not someone who feels alone easily but from that day I did, So I went to visit my siblings and my family and now I feel much better.
SereneWolfParticipant<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>Coucou Tee,</p>
<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>Yes, I was feeling down because there is no progress with my healing. I am trying to stay optimistic, but itâs not always easy.</p>
<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>I can totally understand that. And I really admire your courage to keep going and still staying optimistic because I do know itâs not always easy. Are you feeling any better though?</p>
<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>But I think a part of your âcoolnessâ is that you donât actually allow yourself to get attached, because youâre afraid of getting hurt. There is a fear there, and thatâs why this emotion (love, desire to connect and bond with someone) is missing. It is suppressed as well, but on a deeper level, I think.</p>
<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>Hmm right but Iâm already working on it and I shouldnât be more rigorous about it now. Right? Or is there any daily practice I can improve or implement or update?</p>
<p style=”background: white; box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>Â </p>
<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>I know youâre not worried about ending the relationship. I mean a part of you feels revealed, right? However, I think you should be honest with yourself and ask yourself: am I really upset that she is not sure about me, or am I using this as an excuse to take my leave? </p>
<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>I guess the part the she isnât sure about me, itâs just making it easier for me take my leave, I thought about more and I may be craving that feeling when someone is scared of losing me, and even if theyâre scared theyâd take actions??? </p>
<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>On the other hand I know itâs unreasonable to expect that level of strong connection if I donât show her that type of connection or love⌠</p>
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<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>I see⌠theyâre not criticizing you directly, but comparing you to other people, and then you feel indirectly criticized and judged, right? Do you also feel it in their tone of voice â that theyâre not pleased with you and expect you to do more?</p>
<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>Yes Exactly! </p>
<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>Yes, taking voice notes is a great idea too. Have you talked to your father in the meanwhile?</p>
<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>No I didnât. I felt much better after talk it out to my siblings</p>
<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>Â </p>
<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>Yes, addiction is a very frequent consequence of C-PTSD. So you say youâre suffering from anorexia? I myself suffered both from anorexia and bulimia. We can talk more about it, if youâd like. I realized that for myself, anorexia was about rejecting nurturance, because my mother didnât give me the proper kind of nurturance (emotional), but only physical food. And it wasnât good enough. I needed to be loved and appreciated â feeding me and meeting my physical needs wasnât enough (and my mother thought thatâs the only thing a child needs).</p>
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<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>I guess I was in the same situation. Pressure from my father and grandfather because they wanted me to achieve things which they think is more appropriate for them.. So because of that they would give me more than enough kind of nurturance. But after I started living on my own Iâm super aware of what I eat and really insecure about my body image so yeah anorexia nervosa. But also the bulimia except no vomiting. My body type is Pitta, So my metabolism is high so I eat a lot a lot, Yet my bodyweight is still low. My BMI is still around 19. I guess Hypothyroidism may also be part of it but Iâm not sure.</p>
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<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>But another thing is that even though Iâm insecure about my body image. Because I do think I have to be in normal range weight (Iâm not super skinny but like not super healthy looking either) I have to gain muscles, have better skin.etc All the girls Iâve been with was like what we say âOut of my leagueâ if we seeing things from that way. Yet still I didnât felt good enough and it damaged my self-esteem even more?</p>
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<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>Oh I see⌠thatâs frustrating when youâre trying everything, and itâs still not working :/ How is it now, any new developments?</p>
<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>Yes. Luckily itâs getting much better. I found whole new way and Iâm seeing good positive results </p>
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<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>You were close to her and now she is gone⌠I am so sorry.</p>
<p style=”background: white; box-sizing: border-box; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; orphans: 2; widows: 2; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; word-spacing: 0px; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>Itâs good that you cried and allowed yourself to feel it all⌠Hold on, SereneWolfâŚ</p>
<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>Iâm not someone who feels alone easily but from that day I did, So I went to visit my siblings and my family and now I feel much better. </p>
<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”></p>SereneWolfParticipant<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>Coucou Tee,</p>
<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>Â </p><p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>Yes, I was feeling down because there is no progress with my healing. I am trying to stay optimistic, but itâs not always easy.</p>
<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>I can totally understand that. And I really admire your courage to keep going and still staying optimistic because I do know itâs not always easy. Are you feeling any better now though?</p>
<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>But I think a part of your âcoolnessâ is that you donât actually allow yourself to get attached, because youâre afraid of getting hurt. There is a fear there, and thatâs why this emotion (love, desire to connect and bond with someone) is missing. It is suppressed as well, but on a deeper level, I think.</p>
<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>Hmm right but Iâm already working on it and I shouldnât be more rigorous about it now. Right? Or is there any daily practice I can improve or implement or update?</p>
<p style=”background: white; box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”> </p><p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>I know youâre not worried about ending the relationship. I mean a part of you feels revealed, right? However, I think you should be honest with yourself and ask yourself: am I really upset that she is not sure about me, or am I using this as an excuse to take my leave? </p>
<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>I guess the part she isnât sure about me, itâs just making it easier for me take my leave, I thought about more and I may be craving that feeling when someone is scared of losing me, and even if theyâre scared, theyâd take actions??? </p>
<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>On the other hand, I know itâs unreasonable to expect that level of strong connection if I donât show her that type of connection or love⌠</p>
<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”> </p><p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>I see⌠theyâre not criticizing you directly, but comparing you to other people, and then you feel indirectly criticized and judged, right? Do you also feel it in their tone of voice â that theyâre not pleased with you and expect you to do more?</p>
<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>Yes Exactly! </p>
<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>Yes, taking voice notes is a great idea too. Have you talked to your father in the meanwhile?</p>
<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>No I didnât. I felt much better after talk it out to my siblings</p>
<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>Â </p><p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>Yes, addiction is a very frequent consequence of C-PTSD. So you say youâre suffering from anorexia? I myself suffered both from anorexia and bulimia. We can talk more about it, if youâd like. I realized that for myself, anorexia was about rejecting nurturance, because my mother didnât give me the proper kind of nurturance (emotional), but only physical food. And it wasnât good enough. I needed to be loved and appreciated â feeding me and meeting my physical needs wasnât enough (and my mother thought thatâs the only thing a child needs).</p>
<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>Â </p>
<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>I was in the kinda same situation. Pressure from my father and grandfather because they wanted me to achieve things which they think is more appropriate for them.. So because of that they would give me more than enough kind of physical nurturance, but not emotional, But after I started living on my own Iâm super aware of what I eat and really insecure about my body image so yeah anorexia nervosa. But also the bulimia except no vomiting because My body type is Pitta, So my metabolism is high so I eat a lot a lot, Yet my bodyweight is still low. My BMI is still around 19. I guess Hypothyroidism may also be part of it but Iâm not sure.</p>
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<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>But another thing is that even though Iâm insecure about my body image. Because I do think I have to be in normal range weight (Iâm not super skinny but like not super healthy looking either) I have to gain muscles, have better skin.etc All the girls Iâve been with was like what we can say âOut of my leagueâ if we are seeing things from that way. Yet still I didnât feel good enough and it damaged my self-esteem even more?</p><p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>Â </p>
<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>Oh I see⌠thatâs frustrating when youâre trying everything, and itâs still not working :/ How is it now, any new developments?</p><p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>Yes. Luckily itâs getting much better. I found whole new way and Iâm seeing good positive results. </p>
<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”> </p><p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>You were close to her and now she is gone⌠I am so sorry.</p>
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<p style=”background: white; margin: 0cm 0cm 7.5pt 0cm;”>Â </p>SereneWolfParticipantWhy you’re feeling down? you’re not able to take care of yourself properly?
SereneWolfParticipantHey Tee,
My cat was missing for two days and just today I find out that she died from jumping from the fence and there was some sharp objects. I buried her. I can’t express how I feel I’m feeling like I’ve lost someone really close to me for years even though it was just for like 4 months. Today after a lot of time I cried a lot. I still feel like when I’ll open the door she’s gonna come.
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