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  • in reply to: Feels like Time is passing too fast #423577
    SereneWolf
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    Hey Tee,

    Actually, I am only now starting to learn to be more resilient. These health issues made me feel very fragile physically, but I’ve realized I am also fragile emotionally. For example, believing that I’d never heal, worrying, catastrophizing etc. And I’ve learned that those are all symptoms of health anxiety. So now I’ve learned how to cope with that anxiety, and also to start seeing myself as more resilient (physically) than I thought I was.

    So nowadays, whenever I have a flare-up of my symptoms, I don’t start despairing and thinking my life is over, but I let it pass. And within a few days, my symptoms do subside and I feel better again. So this is how I am learning resilience… by tolerating physical pain 🙂 But it’s been hard, a very hard lesson.. but anyway, that’s life, I hope I am now stronger because of it 🙂

    Oh actually I didn’t even know there’s a specifically thing like health anxiety exist. But I’m glad you found a way to cope with that anxiety. I guess we always find a way one way or another. And I do like your approach because in your situation combining with physical pain so it’s easy to feel fragile and anxious! so Keep up your good work 😀

     

    So you ended up not applying for that entry level job, which was paying well and looked promising?

    I did apply but unfortunately didn’t get selected. Someone with even higher experience than me started working there with less salary package. But I didn’t sulk over that because it was months ago and I thought maybe that person needed that job more than me.

    I am sorry it’s been so stressful for you. Are the opportunities so limited or you are somewhat picky, looking for a very specific thing?

    It’s the IT job market in general. There aren’t even enough jobs open, on top of that layoffs. And what I’m looking for is working in HealthTech or Sustainability sector. Because I think it’s meaningful for me and also impactful.

    Luckily just Thursday I passed initial interview for this Healthtech company. It’s really good position. Took me really long to get selected for a position like that. It’s also fully remote. And enough pay that I can also move to Europe without any issues.

    Now I have next technical interview on Next Wednesday. but I have high hope for this as well as this crazy fear and anxiety that what if I don’t perform well and don’t get it? It’s a really good opportunity that I just don’t want to lose. And it’s just not even letting me practice with good focus. Because this one has multiple stage of interviews after interview on Wednesday there will be two more interviews. And I Need to ace all of this interviews.

     

    I see. It just occurred to me that when you are under stress and feeling bad about something (like with the job search at the moment), you don’t need anyone around to support you. Like, a romantic relationship isn’t a resource for you, but a burden, it seems? And so you tend to get rid of the relationship, to feel less burdened, right?

     

    When I talked about this my therapist while ago she said at difficult time that’s what exactly you need, someone who really supports you and she told me try to stop always being self-dependent. But tbh I’m not able to do that for now. My focus for job is sharp. Because currently it’s a necessity.

     

    It seems she really likes you and is waiting for you. I am kind of rooting for the two of you too 🙂 Because she seems like a good girl… But anyway, you’ll see. Those things cannot (and shouldn’t) be forced, that’s for sure.

    You’re right and like you know we discussed before like I need to be more hopeFul romantic not hopeLess romantic. But I don’t know why but I’m still very hopeless about love. On top of that because of this kind of thinking I’m already feeling like I’d end up alone and no one would love me with their whole heart if I’m keep rejecting love like this.

    Because tbh I do really like her but I just don’t see future in her even though she’s really good I just don’t know why…

     

    Oh I am sorry about that. I also had some eye issues, and it was very frightening, but I did get better, thankfully. I hope your therapist will get better too.

    I hope so. Because with another therapist it’s all from 0 to 1. And more than that It’s the good relationship you know. Because I want good connection too.

    Are you doing those exercises? Are you in touch with her? I mean, is she available at least from time to time? Because self-healing is hard, although not impossible.

    I’m not able to doing those exercises daily tbh. But yes I’m in touch with her. And just look her dedication she said we can communicate over written letters like the old times. And she won’t even charge me any fees for that. She also believes everything happens for a reason, and this would help her do more writing which she always wanted to do in her teenage years, How would I think about changing a therapist like this?

    Self-healing is indeed not easy. But at the end of the day therapists are only like a guide but all the inner work we have to do by ourselves so..

    I’ve heard once a great concept, which is that emotional wounds happened in a relationship, and that’s why we also need a relationship to heal them. A therapeutic relationship primarily. Or we need to have a strong sense of self-compassion, which is like having an inner therapist rather than the inner critic. Unless we have developed a strong inner coach/therapist/good parent figure, emotional healing is hard to do on our own.

    So I think it would make sense to try to find another therapist – someone you do have a good rapport with. Unless you’re feeling you’re making progress on your own too?

     

    That’s indeed a great concept and I guess I’m trying to bring that inner therapist/parent figure more. For example. Uncle Iroh or Krishnaji (Lord Krishna). And that’s why I’m blaming myself much less than I used to.

    Well I do feel like I’m making a progress but for different perspective I wouldn’t mind you telling what do you think my progress so far? Because obviously you continuously contributing a huge part in my healing journey. Because we started communicating long before I even started therapy.

     

     

    in reply to: Feels like Time is passing too fast #423465
    SereneWolf
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    Ola Tee! 😀

    It’s totally fine. I’m really glad to that you’re feeling better. Really happy to hear back from you. I do know that you’re very strong & resilient and I admire that. But I hope you feel even better.

    For Job let’s say I’m still being resilient and applying. There were days when I felt like absolute trash. Because I wasn’t seeing any results. And I was worried for financial pressure too. So like finding a job and on top of that financial pressure. That’s the only two things that rendered in my head. Made me sick to my stomach. It was even harder to enjoy simple things (Which I normally enjoy) But It’s getting better.

    About relationship. Because of this much pressure I totally made her distant from myself. She did try but I wasn’t just in right mental state. Even now I’m just not thinking about it that much. We rarely talk. I even told her that it’s better that she finds someone more suitable according to her needs. But she said no. So now we’re like a non-committed friends who kiss sometimes.

    And It’s been one and a half month I’m not seeing my therapist. She got some health issues too. Mostly her eyes and throat. Which is very crucial for online sessions you know. And she did suggest me another therapist but I didn’t liked her that much so I stopped. So I talked to her and she said she believes that I’m more than capable of doing self-healing and I’m improved much faster rate than she imagined. So told me keep working on some exercises and working on healing my emotional wounds and whenever I need a like a push, she’ll help me.

    What about you? How you’ve been doing?

    in reply to: Feels like Time is passing too fast #421579
    SereneWolf
    Participant

    Hi Tee!

    Yay! I’m really glad! I guess long vacation did helped in some ways :D, Where did you travelled if you don’t mind me asking.
    Yes that’s right let your eyes rest. No need to say sorry.

    I’m still being resilient and applying for jobs.

    in reply to: Feels like Time is passing too fast #421378
    SereneWolf
    Participant

    Hi Tee,
    You did say your heath wasn’t improving. So just wanted to check on you. I hope you’re okay.

    Get well soon 🙂

    in reply to: Feels like Time is passing too fast #420857
    SereneWolf
    Participant

    Hi Tee,

    sorry for the delay, I am on holidays and spending less time at the computer.

    That’s fine! I hope you’re enjoying your holidays well 😀

     

    Thank you! Although I have to say, these last few days have been rough health-wise, so it was hard to stay optimistic. But then it eventually got better again, and I can keep on keeping on…

    I got fever too (2-3 Days) and damn that’s not easy, and for your health it’s much complex and bigger so I understand, and I admire your strength to keeping on.

     

    I guess when you start working on those attachment wounds and the fear of intimacy and vulnerability. When you heal enough so you won’t feel threatened by being in a relationship. Because right now, you probably fear that you’ll lose your freedom, independence, ability to do what you enjoy doing, right?

    This? Yes I fear that!

    Maybe you’re also afraid of being judged, so you feel you need to perform and meet certain expectations, and can’t just be yourself in the relationship?

    But I don’t think I’m afraid of being judged anymore in the relationship because nothing is more energy draining than act as per like someone’s expectations person by person. That’s like people pleasing but out of relationship situation I still have some people pleasing tendencies.

    But you said your girlfriend isn’t really rushing to get married and have children. So it seems she isn’t the cause of stress but it’s more like that you’re telling yourself that being in a relationship means needing to settle down and have children within the 2-3 year time span. So it’s more like the false belief and the expectation that you are putting on yourself is what causes you pressure, rather than your girlfriend putting pressure on you, right?

    She’s not rushing because she knows I’m not serious like her into this relationship, When we met for our second date, she did mention that she’s tired and she wants to settle down. Because even she thinks finding love isn’t easy at all. She literally sends me cute baby videos on IG time to time! And she also suggested adopting a kitten together when my cat ran away, I may have been taking it the wrong way, but you know what that means right? But yeah these are just my assumptions… But saying indirect “yes” to those things means taking things next level and going into the pool!

     

    So I’d say he never gave you the freedom to be yourself – even if he gave you the freedom to move away from home.

    Hmm so it’s like for his own ego and comfort?

    I don’t know if he meant to say that he might have made mistakes in your (and your siblings’) upbringing? If he is willing to admit that he might have made mistakes, that’s already something. Because my mother isn’t willing to admit that.

    Well like I’ve told you he did said sorry to my grandmother when we had a fight in the past. Not directly to me but still yeah

    Haha, you said you were in your late 20s, so I put the highest possible age. But if you’re even younger than that, then my words have an even bigger weight!  Because you’re really young and the entire life is ahead of you.

    But you know how days are going? Like a blink of an eye! I feel so nostalgic watching old anime it feels like yesterday when I used to watch those things. Also I do have to mention that I guess I’m using that to sooth myself from this really fast paced AI world.

    Your inner critic used the opportunity to judge you for being lazy and not working on actively defending yourself from…. the inner critic himself! You see that mechanism?

    But but isn’t that rational and right? 😅

    The inner critic uses everything to turn things against you, even my advice on how to get rid of it! So just pay attention to that and notice every time you scold yourself for anything. Because every such scolding is the inner critic in action.

    Hmm I guess I’ll have to try more

     

    If you like the position and it pays well even at the entry level, and it gives you an opportunity for career advancement – then sure, go for it! The only question is – how come the entry level pays more than the manager level somewhere else? Have you checked if this company is legit and there are no scams involved? If they are legit, if there’s nothing fishy, then I’d say take it, by all means.

    Thanks and They’re legal and it’s not a scam, It’s paying well because they raised lot of funding recently even during this time! So, they have a lot of confidence for their product and I like that. And I even researched for their salary data and they’re paying Product person 4x higher!

     

    in reply to: Feels like Time is passing too fast #420749
    SereneWolf
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    Kon’nichiwa Tee,

    How was your weekend?

    that’s the only way… if I don’t accept the limitations and the hardships, and only focus on the negative, it would be much less bearable. So looking at it with a dose of optimism is the only thing that helps (besides exercise, of course)

    That’s good! Also that’s why you’re an awesome wise mentor! 😀

    Okay, so she’s one sturdy cat and you feel she’s doing fine, wherever she is…
    Yup.

     

    Yeah, she is probably hoping she can turn you around and make you fall in love with her. I did suggest a few posts ago (before you told me about your job loss) to stay in the relationship but work on your fear of commitment. I understand that right now, finding a new job is a priority and you’re only focusing on that. But do you think you would want to work on your fear of commitment some time down the line, or you want to remain an eternal bachelor, so to speak?

    Well you do have a point and I’m doing like a spiral always just running away from commitment like this, and I think now I’m just using bigger excuse to run away from this. I don’t know when I’ll be emotionally “available.”

    But another thing is also that I don’t want to settle down so soon I feel like if things go well, like my other friends 2-3 years in relationship and then get married and get kids and then have your family responsibilities. Then I’d missed out on enjoying my 20’s like adventure travel and etc…

     

    Well yes, because she refuses to admit any fault of her own. It’s easier to blame other people. That’s a hallmark of a toxic person…

    Right, I get it now, main thing is that always see other’s fault but not their own. But few days ago I talked to my father on the call and we talked like an hour (Which is very rare) We were talking about my little brother and how he doesn’t listen to him or talk to him rarely, He be like I gave all of you freedom to do anything you want (Which is somewhat right) and during the call he also said that he also could made mistakes and I was like yeah we’re all humans and Then told him not to worry and I’ll talk to my brother

     

    When you say you made some bad choices in the past, I guess you’re talking about dropping out of university and graduating only later? Well, we’ve talked about that before: you did it because you wanted to free yourself from your father’s and grandfather’s guilt-tripping and you wanted to be independent. And so you had to work to support yourself. Which lead to the delay in your studies.

    Now if you keep blaming yourself for that, you’ll never be free. Because you graduating a few years later doesn’t mean you’re less capable or less competent. You agreed with me that you’re actually a high achiever and resilient. So please stop telling yourself that old story that you’re a failure and lagging behind. You’re right on time and you can grab the best opportunity, if you keep a positive self-image and stay optimistic.

    Yes I agree but the thing is that I still think I could’ve done better, and I know I may haven’t enough mature to make proper decision in past but even though Now I’m much more capable there’s still old fear!

     

    Well, you’re 29. You’ll be at the prime of your power for at least the next 20 years. So there will be plenty of opportunities for both career success and for traveling. But I guess when you’re caught in that fear (of making mistakes, or missing out), it’s hard to hear the rational arguments. Because I think your FOMO is a part of your inner critic. So it’s something that you’d need to actively defend yourself against and shut down that voice, because it’s a blind alley.

    I’m freshly 28! Don’t make me older please 😂 and Yeah I agree but this actively defending is seems hard! Is there any more efficient way? Like it happens in background or subconsciously etc? I’m being lazy I know Heck I even have time yet I’m not putting it for right use.. I should do that

     

    I think it’s a smart decision to start applying for a broader range of positions, and then switch after a while to what you really want. As for the job market, I really don’t know, it depends on what sector you’re in. If you’re in IT, it shouldn’t be that affected, although it seems that new product development might be stalling, due to people not having enough money…

    Yeah so I have two interviews soon, and one HR was like this is an entry level position I believe you’re too senior for this but still if you want we can discuss further… and I do like this position even though it’s entry level it’s a really good pay even more than manager level pay. So I’m thinking talking to him like I’m more interested in this position for growth opportunity later on… But if you have better suggestion you can suggest me

     

    in reply to: Feels like Time is passing too fast #420646
    SereneWolf
    Participant

    Hey Tee,

    I am a bit better health-wise, so I had a good weekend. I mean, nothing special, but pleasant and mostly pain-free, which is a miracle when it happens.

    I’m glad to know that. I like that you have very grateful perspective towards this.

    I am so sorry your new cat ran away Perhaps she’ll come back?

    She still didn’t. But I’m not that much worried like a cat before. Because I don’t know I have a feeling that she’ll survive.

    Okay, so you’re determined not to get married. Have you ever talked about the future and topics like marriage and children? What does she say about you wanting to work remotely and possibly moving to a different city? Do you talk about that?

    I mean she already is well aware about my plans for remote working and moving to different cities and because of her profession she can’t do it even if she wants to, and for marriage we both decided to not rush and after that I told her no for a love relationship so…

    It seems she feels the connection at the moment, as she is comforting you about your job loss and all that. She feels a certain closeness, and I guess that’s why she doesn’t feel that you’re not giving her what she needs. But she did feel it in the past – that’s why she was tempted to go back to her ex. So I guess right now she feels close to you, because you’re open to receiving her love and support. But once you’ll be in a better place and less fragile, she might experience that you’re withdrawing again…

    Hmm I guess you’re right but I don’t want her to stuck with me for confusing type of love. She deserves something much more and direct, But she still wants to spend time with me because she may have that hope of finding a way to my heart key.. and because of my career now I’m focused only on that instead of relationship.

    Yes, it’s hard to accept that. I too was hoping that my mother would realize that she hurt me and that she didn’t give me the kind of love I needed. But she refused to see it. She still believes she was a good mother and I am an ungrateful daughter.

    What? She still believes that she was a good mother and it was your fault?? How? Why?

    Oh I didn’t know there is JOMO too, as opposed to FOMO But yeah, we can’t do everything and be at more places at one time. Life is about choices, and we choose one thing at the expense of other. Even if this other thing is also good. But still, we need to make choices and omit certain things, because our time and resources are limited. You also omit a lot during sleep, if you think about it, and yet, you need sleep, because those are your biological limits.

    Yes but the thing is that because I made some bad choices in the past now I have fear that I may make bad choices again and everyone says these years of life are golden years so it’s like break it or make it so later on I don’t want to regret that I didn’t make good choices… I guess it’s also one of the reasons for my low self-esteem. You see what I mean?

     

    Are you worried about missing out on travel? Or you’re more worried about being late in your achievements and career success?

    Actually both!

     Well, they are very short-sighted and stingy, and you shouldn’t be sorry for leaving that company. I hope you’ll find some place where they’ll appreciate people like you more, and not take advantage of them and them toss them away

    Yes but companies are really scared of slow economy so they’re putting money first instead of people.

     

    Yeah, I understand that people are rushing to find just anything, because they need the money and the opportunities are shrinking. But if you can afford to wait a little longer, then do it. Don’t fall for the fear that you won’t find anything – because you sure will, if it comes to that. But maybe you’ll have to be less picky, you’ll see about that.

    Right so I started to apply for position that also related to Product Management means much broader and more opportunities… and after working like 6 months to 1 year I can start applying for the position that are stronger for PM roles because Let’s hope by then job market would be better? What do you think?

    in reply to: Feels like Time is passing too fast #420481
    SereneWolf
    Participant

    So they don’t want any new development then? Perhaps they believe they’ve got a hit product and they don’t need anything new for at least a year or so?

    Yes, I did lot of Market research during development for that so for a while they won’t need even new features for this product.

    I only wouldn’t agree that you’re getting old, but if you have a clear goal in mind (to work remotely and travel as you please), then by all means, go for it.

    I mean only reason is the I have clear goal and that’s why I’m confident about it. Lot of my friends are really compromising like just get wherever you want, But I’m really picky about it. They are scaring me more because of all the layoffs and unemployment rates are getting higher.

    If you’re short on money, you can still send applications to some of those less appealing places, and once you get the job at a place you like better, you can simply switch. How do you feel about that?

    Yes, I did selected some cities where I can stay little longer so I’m applying for Hybrid roles there as well

    in reply to: Feels like Time is passing too fast #420480
    SereneWolf
    Participant

    Ola Tee,

    How was your weekend?

    I wouldn’t know about that. But I guess you should train her how to use the toilette and stuff like that. I’ve never had a pet, so cannot really give advice on that…

    Well actually she ran away yesterday evening ☚

    So you are sure that you don’t want this to grow into something long term, possibly even marriage?

    Nope. No marriage

    Now, you’d need to chose her. I know it’s really hard for you, due to your attachment issues. But I am just saying – I think it would be a worthy effort to work on your fear of commitment, while in the relationship with her. I think making that effort would actually make sense, and it wouldn’t be a waste of time.

    So I think this would be my answer to your question: So should I stay put and live in the moment while it last or should I do something else?

    Work on your fear of commitment, while staying in the relationship. Don’t stay in that fear forever, without challenging it. That’s my advice.

    Well lately I feel like a fraud because she’s been very supportive with everything that’s going on and I feel like I’m using her just for my emotional comfort and physical needs not giving her the love that she’s craving from me. I literally said this to her on her face because I didn’t want any dishonesty, but she was like I’m just being silly.

     

    Yes, constant criticism and shaming is actually emotional abuse. It’s actively inflicting a wound on you, telling you how bad and faulty you are. What your mother did was more like emotional neglect, I think, because she tolerated your father’s treatment of you and didn’t protect you from it. She wasn’t actively harming you, but she let your father harm you with his criticism.

    Hmm I see I understand now

    Maybe this is a silly question but I am not familiar with children’s obligations regarding financing their parents and grandparents. So you said earlier that you have a responsibility to give a certain amount to your parents monthly. Is it because  they are not that well off, or it’s a custom in India and adult children are obliged to do it regardless?

    Well it is more like a custom in India. especially If you’re an older sibling Which I am

    As for the fact that you have such a father – you’ll have to mourn that, I guess. I am sorry that my mother is like she is, and that we’ll never have a close, loving relationship. She is incapable of that. So I gave it up. My relationship with her is very superficial. It’s sad, but it can’t be more than that – if I want to respect myself and not allow her to hurt me.

    Yes you’re right and I guess I’m just not able to easily accept this truth and still hoping that he might change, But we don’t know. So I guess that’s what hard for me

    No, you needed their emotional support as a child. It was a crucial need back then and because it wasn’t met, it caused damages (which you are trying to rectify and heal now, as an adult). But you don’t need their emotional support now. Your well-being and emotional health doesn’t depend on it. You can get support elsewhere (in therapy, for example). You can also give yourself the support and validation that you needed from them as a child. In short, you can now become a good parent to yourself.

    Yes I’m trying to be a good parent to myself, Trying to be kinder with myself day to day

    So yes, try to have more compassion for yourself, appreciate everything you’ve achieved so far and tell yourself that you did a great job. Be Uncle Iroh to yourself, not the heartless drill sergeant…

    Yes that’s what I’m trying I think being mindful is really helping me a lot, So most of the time when I get negative thoughts my mind tells me not be anxious and worried and appreciate things.

    Yes, that’s one of your major tasks. So now try not to blame yourself for being “late” and “behind schedule”. You’re not late for anything,

    That’s one of the hardest thing I have to work on I guess, Because I’m very afraid of getting older and missing out on things, and while meditation I did deep think about this matter like no matter what, we can’t do absolutely everything. So just learn JOMO. Joy of missing out. Being present in the moment instead of worrying about future and stuff, Don’t compare, Ever one of us have their own unique journey, But not easy at all my rational mind ask me lot of other questions that makes me feel behind

     

    in reply to: Feels like Time is passing too fast #420442
    SereneWolf
    Participant

    Hi Tee,

    it seems very short-sighted :/ So basically they fired the whole developer team because now the product is out on the market and they don’t need you any more?

    It is short-sighted for sure! but they are thinking how much money they’re saving for few month, and they only have two dev guys for bug fixing and in Product they only have like support girl. because they don’t want anything new

     

    I thought in case you need money, perhaps you can relax your requirements. But of course, if it’s not such an urgent problem, you don’t need to go back to the system you don’t like

    I mean yeah financal pressure is a real deal and I’m feeling it, but my other persona is rebeling against it like no just get what you want don’t compromise you’re gonna get what you want.

     

    in reply to: Feels like Time is passing too fast #420289
    SereneWolf
    Participant

    Hi Tee,
    Do you know what caused it?

    Well they said it’s for organizational restructure and for budget purposes. But mainly we all think they don’t want to pay to people for “building” or “managing” new services just because it’s working fine now so they think they can save thousands of dollars for few months… So basically, its like the full course meal is ready for them and they going to feed themselves on for few months.

    Perhaps you can send some more applications, even for jobs that aren’t remote only – to increase your chances?

    Well you know I already feel missing out on things and less freedom because I had to go to the office sometimes and wasn’t able to change the cities. Now I don’t want to stuck in the same loop and feel the same way. Like I already feel like I’m getting old, and I haven’t seen this beautiful world enough..

    in reply to: Feels like Time is passing too fast #420229
    SereneWolf
    Participant

    Hey Tee,

    Apologies for the late reply, but I haven’t been feeling well. 40% of the workforce has been reduced at the company where I worked, and I was laid off. Now, I’m more anxious than ever to find a job.
    I still haven’t heard from the companies where I applied. I don’t know what else I can do now instead of just losing hope…

    in reply to: Feels like Time is passing too fast #420050
    SereneWolf
    Participant

    Heyya Tee,

    I’d easily slip into depression. And I need to battle that.

    And you’re fighting this battle  very well Tee, Keep it up 😀

     

    Haha, cats don’t do anything if they’re not happy – they always put themselves first. So she must be happy

    I was wondering, So I have a friend who have 3 cats and her cats are so well behaved and healthy because her mother was around and I guess she taught her kitten to how to get around? But this kitten is like only a month old and she have no idea what’s going on or how to do things. That’s why I have to take care of more than “Normal”

     

    She is hoping she found or will find a loophole in your armor, I guess.

    Hmm she better know how stubborn I am.

     

    Okay, if you also talk about your own vulnerability, and perhaps your own fears, and she is understanding, that’s good. I guess you appreciate her being understanding and not judging you, right?

    Yes I do appreciate that, and It’s not like we talking everyday but still…

     

    I’ve just looked up how FWB is defined. And it doesn’t necessarily exclude emotional bond, but the most significant feature is lack of commitment. You said you have fear of commitment. It also makes you uncomfortable to say “I love you” (or to hear her say it), I guess because it carries a future expectation of a committed relationship. So I guess if there is fear of the future and fear of commitment, even though you’re enjoying things at the moment, I guess that would still be defined as FWB.

    Hmm I see, Well I guess then it’s my first FWB? Lol 😂

    And yeah there is fear of commitment there, I accept that, but you know that I don’t want to move forward than FWB with this girl, So should I stay put and live in the moment while it last or should I do something else?

     

    Not sure I understand your question. The article talks about how it’s easy to fall in love, when hormones are high and we might be seeing the person through rose-colored glasses. But once the honeymoon phase is over, we need to make an effort to understand the person, to work on ourselves and our own issues, to not project things on them etc. In that sense, love requires effort.

    Ah that’s right and that’s why lot of young people are like that because most of the people don’t like to put real efforts for love. They quit after the honeymoon phase. I’m also did something similar, Whenever my relationship got complex, I just quit it. Though I did feel like I did put lot of efforts.

     

    Okay, so try to reduce reading about those mega success stories, because it makes you feel bad about yourself. And it would make most people bad about themselves. It’s the worse when we compare ourselves to others, and that’s exactly what your father and grandfather were doing to you, and now you’re doing it to yourself.

    Yes you’re right. I’m not using twitter anymore. I uninstalled it.

     

    I wish you success!

    Thanks a lot! 😀

     

    You mean he tried to hit you and your mother only twice? But I thought he’d get angry with you often and scolded you for even the slightest mistake. You said he made you feel dumb whenever you made a mistake (the minute I make a mistake I’m dumb). He was also comparing you to other students, telling you you should be grateful for the material support he is providing and why can’t you learn better. He was also having perfectionist expectations on you. All this is emotional abuse, even though he wasn’t physically violent.

    I mean, his criticism didn’t happen only twice, right? He wasn’t displeased with you only twice, but it was a common theme, it happened all the time. You grew up feeling not good enough, due to his constant criticism and shaming. That’s emotional abuse, SereneWolf, not emotional neglect.

    Ah Okay I see now, so his constant criticism and perfectionist expectations are also count as an emotional abuse. I thought it’s emotional neglect because he didn’t care about my emotions or even noticed but I see your point now. I have to talk about this to my therapist as well!

    Yeah, that’s passive aggression, I’d say. He doesn’t want to say what he needs directly, but is scolding you and your brother for not reading his mind and assuming what he needs. He is making you guilty for something that’s not your fault at all.

    Yeah I know right!? I was this close to lose my mind. I mean what’s problem in just saying clearly?

    Not willing to take responsibility for one’s actions and always blaming others is a mark of a toxic personality. It seems he is now less “in your face” about his expectations, but still does that indirectly, without saying it out loud, but still you can feel the sting.

    I guess you’re right. How should I save myself from this? Even building boundaries isn’t working much. And I’m aware it’s his problem not mine but it does bother me.

     

    Yes, they (your father and grandfather) made you feel guilty if you brought home anything less than straight As, right? They made themselves into martyrs, while you were the bad, ungrateful son/grandson for disappointing them and “torturing” them like that.

    That was putting so much pressure on you. No wonder you felt like a burden – because they made you feel like one. And then you left home, because you didn’t want to be guilt-tripped by them any more, right? You rejected their “nurturance”. You told your father: “I don’t need your help to take care of myself. I know how to handle things.” So you were fed up with his guilt tripping and making you feel like a burden. You decided to be on your own. “Self-sufficient” at 16.

    But do you see how this “self-sufficiency” is a defense mechanism? It was born out of being blamed all the time, feeling like a burden all the time, and wanting to break free from that. With moving out, you basically told your father “I don’t need anything from you”. But that’s not true – the child always needs support from their parents, both material and emotional. But this was a defense mechanism, because you didn’t want to endure that blame and guilt-tripping any more.

    Yes you understood very well! But after all this you still think I need emotional support of my parents? Because I just started to feel validated without their validation.

    So I started working much earlier without even getting my bachelor’s first then I was blaming myself that I didn’t focused on my studies like other people otherwise I’d be more educated now…

    In order to support yourself, you had to work, and so no wonder that you couldn’t get your bachelor’s degree on time. But then you blamed yourself for not studying enough like other people. Well, now it’s time to stop blaming yourself and understand that leaving home was a self-protection mechanism, born out of despair and not wanting to be abused any more.  So instead of blaming yourself, try to find compassion for yourself – for the young boy of 16 who ventured out into the world to support himself, because his family was emotionally so cruel to him. So rejecting. So conditional love.

    And congratulate yourself because you’ve managed to get your bachelor’s later on, in spite of working full time, which is always much harder. And now you’re even in the process of getting a master’s degree, if I remember well? So congratulate yourself for all your educational achievements, even if you got them a few years later than planned, due to objective circumstances.

    Remember, you’re not lazy and “good for nothing”, but it’s that you needed to work in parallel with studying, which makes you actually a high achiever. Even though your father believes you are “less than”, tell yourself that you are a high achiever and very resilient. Because you made it in spite of the objective difficulties.

    Wow that’s powerful! Thanks a lot Tee, Thanks for pointing out and made me more aware about this! And yes I think main reason for all this is that I’ve always been and still blaming myself for everything that happened. Being too much “Self-sufficient” like it’s all my responsibility, Like I could’ve done better, even though I was just doing things as per my circumstances. That’s why it’s been hard for me find compassion for myself. And yes I’m indeed a high achiever and very resilient. Thanks again for your positive reminder! I appreciate it 🤗

     

    Oh yes, neuroplasticity is a great thing, because our neural circuits can literally change as we focus on positive things and start having a more positive mindset.

    Yes it is!

     

    Well, it seems like you’re still comparing yourself to others in terms of professional success, and are feeling “less than” and that you haven’t achieved enough etc. I hope what I said above might help you put things into perspective and have more empathy for yourself and your life path so far.

    Yes you’re right and yeah what you said is really helpful! I did learned empathy but for others, I think I still have to learn having more empathy and compassion for myself.

    Yes, try to focus less on other people’s achievements. Don’t compare yourself to others. We all have our individual stories and our unique challenges. We also all have different lessons to learn in life. You only need to focus on yourself and your own life.

    100% Right!

    in reply to: Feels like Time is passing too fast #419811
    SereneWolf
    Participant

    Hey Tee,

    my condition is still fluctuating, so I am still looking for something to give me better relief. But not losing hope, so…

    Oh I’m sorry to hear that, But it’s really impressive it’s been a while and you’re still standing strong with hope. Love that. Your strong spirit is helping you for not getting weaker. I hope you feel better soon.

    Good – seems she is getting more tame as the time goes by

    Yeah but cats doesn’t smile like dogs, So I’m worried if she’s happy with me lol

     

    Yeah, sure, sharing intimacy, being vulnerable, opening up when something is bothering us… it’s precious to have someone we can do that with, without being judged and ridiculed.

    Yup that is REALLY precious

     

    Yes, I think so too. She is hoping you would come around and start really bonding with her. She is hoping she’ll melt you finally

    Well is that her overconfidence or she found some loophole? 😂

     

    Okay, she is taking the conscious risk…

    Doctors are good at taking risks you know

    What are you craving from her?

    I’m not sure, It’s been a while since I’m little vulnerable with someone, She’s understanding so we talk about lot of stuff. And yeah, I did have physical cravings for so long. That includes hand holdings to all the way to sleeping together.

     

    I think that women bond quicker emotionally if there is sex involved. So if you keep having sex, she’ll definitely get even more attached, while for you it’s a question, specially since you have attachment issues. But it seems she is willing to take that risk, since she is hoping you might change (or that she might change you)…

    Oh I see that’s interesting, Since women are naturally more emotional that’s why sex affects them even more, But the thing is that even though I have attachment issues, I do get attached with women even though it’s not only for sex. Otherwise FWB would be easier for me. Because even for sex I need to have at least good level of trust, bond and attraction.

    Yeah, maybe it’s like Facebook – you start comparing yourself to other people and start feeling less than… so probably LinkedIn is something that triggers your inner critic and makes you feel bad about yourself. Maybe it would be better if you didn’t read those success stories, but only the information related to job openings…

    Yes even in Twitter just influencer gurus are everywhere, Do this and change your life, 7 figure income in your 20s and blah blah blah they make it sounds so easy, and be like it’s that easy why you’re not doing it?

     

    Are you still trying to find a completely remote job, so you can work from anywhere?

    Yes mam, I have some interviews soon

    She tried to calm you (the child) down, so you wouldn’t provoke him (the adult)?

    I think so yeah

    It seems your father wasn’t just an emotionally bully, but also potentially a physical bully, and there was a danger of domestic violence. And so your mother did everything to prevent that violence – by basically being obedient and trying to appease him, and also trying to control you and reason with you to be more “mature” (even if you were just a child).

    Your grandfather was similar in character to him, and I guess your father actually received a similar treatment from his own father, right?

    Yes that’s right

    It was only your grandmother (your father’s mother?) who warned him and he sort of admitted that it wasn’t the right thing to do. After that, has he tried to hit you or your mother again, or that was the only incident?

    My father’s mother. After that he never tried to hit me or even raise his voice to my mother or me. Like I said only two times it happened but it was traumatic enough for me, Before I was in primary school and I don’t even remember it properly, But also that time I raised my voice at him.

    Just today Me and my brother talked to him on conference call, He was like you’re both adults you should know things I shouldn’t have to tell you. and I told him clearly that I don’t prefer just assuming things, whatever is it just say things clearly. He’s like no you’re adults you should be aware about this. and the matter was that my grandparents are sick so he be like me and my brother are irrepressible for not knowing to offer for more financial help. I mean we knew that they’re sick but how we’d know that they need more help? and he was like I waited for days that you’d call and offer? I’m like what? Just don’t wait and tell me things like that directly! He was like this is common sense so you should know. Really made me angry 🙄

    But I guess his mindset didn’t change much. He thought he can yell at you and bully you as much as he pleases, while you should stay silent and “respect” your father. That father is “god” and children shouldn’t talk back. A very toxic attitude.

    YES EXACTLY! He think everything he does is right and it always other’s fault.

    And I guess you didn’t want to bow down to him, you didn’t want to show respect to him, and that’s what caused friction. And I guess that’s why you left home so early?

    Since my teenage I was very clear about values that I respect and even at that age lot of things which was “Cool” for other kids was clearly nonsense for me. So clearly his unfair anger was really irritating for me, And my main reason to left home early was to get freedom and stand up by myself. And sorta tell my father that I don’t need your help to take care of myself. I know how to handle things. So that’s what I did.

    Another thing is that when you have that kind toxic person around you don’t feel that good you know so I just wanted to leave…

    He was extremely toxic, SereneWolf. He brutally criticized and shamed you for even the slightest mistake. No wonder you got traumatized by that. He expected you to be “grateful” for the material stuff that he was providing, while of course you couldn’t be grateful when he was putting you down so mercilessly.

    Emotional support is much more important for a child than having material abundance. He gave zero emotional support. What you experienced from him was emotional abuse. (In the beginning you said you’re suffering from childhood emotional neglect. Well, this was not neglect, this was emotional abuse.)

    It’s emotional abuse even it happened one or two times?

    Who is “they”? Your father and grandfather?

    Yes

    No wonder you started having issues at school later – it could have been a consequence of the emotional abuse you’ve been experiencing at home. You were under so much pressure you couldn’t take it any more. It could have even been a way of rebelling too. Sometimes we rebel because we can’t bear to be oppressed like that. I guess one way you rebelled was to leave home, but perhaps having issues at school was another way, only subconscious?

    Yes it made me so desperate to just earn and live on my own, I didn’t wanted to be burden on them. They always made me feel like they did so much for me and it felt like burden to me! So I started working much earlier without even getting my bachelor’s first then I was blaming myself that I didn’t focused on my studies like other people otherwise I’d be more educated now…

     

    That’s great! Maybe the term you’re looking for is self-fulfilling prophecy: you expect good things, and then good things happen to you. And vice versa. In any case, I am glad that you’re more open to praise and that it helps you feel better about yourself.

    I searched it’s called experience-dependent neuroplasticity. When we focus on the good, Good happens. It’s about positive mindset or positive perspective of life

    When you heal your inner child and completely dismiss the inner critic… but you’re doing great, you’re making progress…

    So currently what internal challenges that I have? What do you think?

    Maybe the drill sergeant shows up when you’re looking at LinkedIn and start comparing yourself with others? This voice is actually your father’s and grandfather’s voice, because they were always comparing you with others. It’s great you have Uncle Iroh as the antidote!

    Right I’m just trying to consume less information. There’s just too much noise everywhere. In this noise it feels like my own inner voice is getting lost.

    Well, one explanation could be that love is not just words (“I love you”), it’s also deeds – the things we do to show our love and appreciation every day. Okay, I’ve just looked it up, and the first thing that came up in search was an article titled “Why love is a choice you make every day.”

    The article is worth reading, but basically the main point is: “It may feel easy to find love at first – your hormones are leading the way. Building love, which implies emotional intimacy, may take effort and action.”

    From the PsychCentral? I mean like does that mean we should do everything out of love not for the love?

     

     

    in reply to: Feels like Time is passing too fast #419708
    SereneWolf
    Participant

    Bonjour Tee,

    How are you doing? How’s your weekend going?

     How are you getting along with her? Does she allow to be cuddled?

    Well now she does. She just comes and sleeps on my lap or belly occasionally. She also let me pet her head when she’s in the mood otherwise my finger is like a chewing toy for her.

    Yes, it’s good to have someone to share difficult moments with, not to be alone with our grief. But having a partner just so they can console us in hard times would be a bit unfair to them. I mean, the goal would be to have a full spectrum of emotional intimacy, in both good and bad times. That’s the point of a healthy relationship.

    I mean yeah I know that that’s what relationship is about sharing intimacy. So I didn’t mean only for grief, Obviously something more than that

     

    Hmmm… I thought she was smarter than that. Instead of learning to be on her own for a while, she offered you a friends-with-benefits arrangement. That’s hurtful, specially for women, because they usually get more attached than men. And in the case of you two, we know that she is much more attached to you than you to her. So I think she is putting herself in a situation which she will regret.

    I feel she’s acting like one of my first LDR (Long-term) girl, She also acted like this because she doesn’t want to lose contact. I guess she still may have hope that she can change things. And another thing is that I still do enjoy talking to her and we talk about lot of things than just sex. Sex is just like a plus point. Also she’s aware that I have no experience for FWB yet or neither does she. So I won’t be purely doing that. Other intimate things will be included. Women are like clever fox lol

    What you really think women get attached than men? But yeah for this case yes.

    And we did talked about it very openly and I said if we still continue like this it would be harder to move on later on. She said she is aware of this but she said she would even like this regret. So I said it’s not wrong to create more memories together. But I did said I’m not sure so we still take things slowly… and I accept I do crave things from her that’s why I’m not able to directly say No to her.

    Well, I personally don’t view sex in the same rank of physical needs as eating, drinking or getting enough sleep. It’s not a part of self-care. So I don’t think it will help you be more productive, if that’s what you meant. But you know yourself best – have you noticed that sex makes you more productive at work?

    I mean you know you didn’t had sex for a very long time and then suddenly sex is in your routine? You know because of my past LDRs I wasn’t able do physical things. So it kinda makes me feel like desperate for sex? Yet I do still try to control myself but her libido is also high so it doesn’t help much. And I love morning sex it makes me feel energetic and it fills me up with good vibes and after having morning sex I don’t have any sexual or needy thoughts during the day you know…

     

    You feel that anxiety in social situations or with work-related tasks?

    Yes, mainly work and career related things. Maybe I should use LinkedIn less. It makes me feel behind and somewhat jealous and question my abilities. In LinkedIn there are informative stuff but also lot of “Success” posting so..

    Also lot of company is laying off people, so I just started to apply for different positions while ago which is also the stressful situation because even after applying for lot of job there isn’t much positive feedback yet

    I am happy if they did show emotional support in some situations. But your mother, if I understood well, was your father’s enabler. She enabled him to criticize you and verbally abuse you without intervening. She basically told you to endure it and to be “mature” about it. She failed to protect you. That’s a big omission. And it’s not something that happened once or twice, but consistently. The whole situation was so unbearable that you left home at the age of 16. Those are no small things…

    Yeah that’s like we talked before, Even though your father was aware he wasn’t able to protect you, So is my mother. And another thing I guess I didn’t told you is that my mother was worried about physical fight and something would happen to me, because if I remember only two times my father lost control and tried to physically hurt me and also hurt my mother when she tried to save me and when I saw that I didn’t showed him respect like I don’t care who you are you can’t treat us like that it would made him even more angry he be like you can’t disrespect me like that don’t raise your voice in front of me. And I would just be like this is nonsense and go to my room and not talk him for a day or two. And yet all my family (Not my siblings) is like it’s just his anger he didn’t mean any harm. I’m like I’m the kid here or is he’s the kid that he can’t even control his anger? You can bow down to his anger but I won’t. Literally even my relatives says like oh just ignore that he just have some anger tendencies… A good son shouldn’t disrespect his father. But that time only my grandma told him like what are you even doing? That’s how you treat your kids? and he did accept that it was his fault and he’s sorry. Only to my grandma not in front of me. Otherwise, his “pride” would hurt. And after that my mother knew that If anything happens again I’d disrespect him again and it would make things worse between us.

    Sorry for long rant

    Okay, so you felt your father was kind and “loving” to you only if you performed well at school? You felt that when he praised you, he expected no less than top performance from you? You had to be No1, or else he wouldn’t be pleased? (I am just trying to understand what you said earlier that you felt that people are insincere when they praise you and that they want something in return. So perhaps this behavior doesn’t come from your mother, but from your father?)

    Yes that’s right and the minute I make a mistake I’m dumb. He be like I did this and that and some people are not even able to provide daily necessities to their kids and yet they’re performing well then what do you need? They didn’t tell this to my face but I knew their thinking and I did like studying they never had to tell me like go and study like my siblings. They still believe I’m a “good performing” student even though my attention span and curiosity for studying is worse now

     

    It’s good that you’re more open to compliments. Because if the inner critic is strong, it will disregard even the strongest evidence. That happens in the impostor syndrome. But if you silence the inner critic a bit and allow yourself to receive praise, without immediately dismissing it, that’s a good start.

    I don’t remember what’s that term called but it’s like what you think is what you see? So I guess if I’m hearing good things about myself, I do feel good things about myself and after that I notice even more better things..

    Allow yourself to receive that praise from your therapist and accept that you’re actually doing good and having results pretty quickly. So don’t dismiss it as false praise, but allow yourself to be satisfied with yourself.

    Ah the feeling of satisfied with myself! Damn when will I get that? But yeah I started to take positive praise with some critical thinking so I’m not dismissing entirely. We’re imperfect beings after all, Always evolving like universe, and we’re part of this universe so..

     

    Right. So the drill sergeant is still active, still pushing you to do more and faster. Try to notice it and then stop yourself, i.e. invite the good general (forgot his name, sorry) to come to your rescue and send the drill sergeant away.

    Yeah that drill sergeant! I do think most of the time he’s not even there he just comes up when I’m feeling down about something and I do try to listen to Good general (Uncle Iroh)

    Now I do have friendly inner voice and him. Like I said before I act like I’m my own friend and try to handle the situation if I’m telling myself bad things and Uncle Iroh kinda makes it even better.

     

    Just yesterday I read on a post that says “Love is not just a feeling, It is a daily choice that we make.” What does that mean? Can you elaborate if you know?

     

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