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HelcatParticipant
Hi Pandanator
You posted on the 13th, I’m finally reading this on the 15th. Sorry for the delay in replying. The forum is unusually busy and your post was pushed back to the 2nd page. I don’t believe that may people have seen it yet.
I’m sorry to hear about the difficulties with your breakup. How are you coping with it?
You mentioned that the relationship was toxic. Considering the messages he sent you post break up. That seems very clear. It sounds like he got back in touch with you to hurt you. Why do you feel guilty about protecting yourself when he was trying to hurt you? You did the right thing!
It’s good to hear that you can reflect on your own difficulties in the relationship. Being able to do so, helps to work on those issues in the future. You seem to be overly blaming yourself though?
You mentioned overthinking? Are there any specific parts that your mind is stuck on?
It seems to me that what you suspect – he’s playing games with you and trying to hurt you – is true and valid.
Please take extra care of yourself during this difficult time.
Wishing you all the best! ๐
HelcatParticipantHi Andromeda
My deepest condolences for the loss of your nephew.
Also, I’m sorry for the delay in response to your post. You posted on the 13th and I’m finally seeing it on the 15th. The forum has been unusually busy recently and your post was pushed to the 2nd page. I don’t believe that many people have seen your post yet.
You did your best for your nephew, looking after him as a child because of his motherโs poor health.
Last time he reached out to you, you told offered for him to come back and stay for some emotional support. You weren’t fully informed of his circumstances. You did all that you could.
That is a very special experience that you had on Thurday. I’m glad that it brought a sense of peace.
I’m sorry for all of the pain you are feeling. Please take your time and grieve. Let it all out and try your best to take care of yourself during this difficult time. Lean on your husband for support and please feel free to share your thoughts and feelings here.
Might I suggest reaching out to your sister as well? I know it might be a lot to handle at the moment, both her feelings and yours. But she could potentially be a suicide risk herself now that her son has passed. I don’t know if she has anyone taking care of her?
Wishing you healing in your grieving process. ๐ ๐๏ธ
HelcatParticipantHi Chris
You posted on the 13th and I’m finally seeing your post on the 15th. It looks like the forum has been really busy recently and your post was pushed to the 2nd page. I don’t think many people have seen your post for this reason.
I’m so sorry to hear about your break up.
I’m glad that things were going better since your previous break up. I know it’s painful and hard because you love her. Considering her diagnosis I would trust her reason for breaking up.
How are you coping with the break up? Please take extra care of yourself during this difficult time.
Please share whatever thoughts and feelings you wish to.
Wishing you all the best! ๐
HelcatParticipantHi ME
He’s 19 years old and has been dating his gf for 2 years. He was bound to move out sometime. It sucks that he’s handled it so poorly. He could have been more mature and told you he was moving out.
It’s only been 3 months. Give this some time. Based on what Anita shared clearly there are issues that he’s been struggling with in the family for a long time. If things are better now, great, just be consistent, loving and be ready to rebuild the relationship when the opportunity comes.
He’s not likely to stay with his gf forever. In this day and age people break up all the time. Have patience and ride this out. Heโll learn if it was a mistake to move in with her or not soon enough.
HelcatParticipantHi Robyn
You posted this on the 6th and I’m only now seeing your post on the 14th. This has started happening recently. Perhaps your post was bumped straight into the second page during a busy period? This means that your post may not have been seen by many people.
I’m sorry to hear about the difficulties with your family and that you lost your mother. ย And there are difficulties in your apartment building too. No one should feel unsafe in their own home.
You have no obligation to your father after what he did.
I feel like the mistake was blocking your brother. Did you have a reason to the first time you mentioned that you did it here?
People do get upset when they’re blocked in general.
Changing your number without telling him and not giving it to him was a mistake too. This upsets people as well.
From his perspective you ignored him twice then asked him for a favour. It’s not surprising that he’s not receptive. Yes, he handled being upset poorly. But if the first time you mentioned you blocked him you didn’t have a good reason, it was understandable for him to be upset.
You used to be close, but clearly aren’t anymore. If you want to repair this relationship you’d have to put some work into it. Be consistent, not block him, ignore him or change your number.
Do you have the ability to see a therapist or pursue medication to help with your mood? You’ve really been going through the wringer recently with a lot going on at once. It sounds like you could use some professional support.
Please take care of yourself during this difficult period and bear in mind that alcohol is a depressant. It will ultimately worsten your mood.
Please feel free to share your thoughts.
Wishing you all the best! ๐
October 13, 2023 at 3:37 pm in reply to: Telling the difference between gut and fear in relationships #423094HelcatParticipantHi Seaturtle
I’m glad that you found my communication tips helpful. I enjoy communicating with and helping people, as well as sharing what I’ve learned from my experiences so far of recovering from trauma.
Sorry, it’s hard for me to address every point because you’re quite prolific at writing. I’m glad that you are expressing yourself though! Please don’t change your habits for me. It was helpful when you reminded me of a question you wanted answered that I missed before. I was trying to focus on things that I thought might be helpful first.
Have you considered that as you struggle with your issues, your partner struggles with feeling he’s done something wrong? This could be a theme that he experienced with his own trauma. He just might not be as aware of his issues as you are. I’m guessing that he hasn’t been to therapy. People who are less stable can struggle when people express difficult emotions sometimes.
I think you’ve already figured out how your father came to develop these behaviours as you notice that you are experiencing them yourself.
He was likely shamed by a parent into being very proactive in meeting their needs and cleaning up.
The thing is, you were trained to respond in this way because it’s how your father felt most comfortable.
You felt comfortable when he was comfortable because when he was uncomfortable he would make you feel very unwanted.
No one has to do these things. It’s just a response to trauma.
For example, you mentioned that you like your environment to be controlled and that helps you to feel comfortable I.e. Focusing on your interests and the things that you want to do. This strike me as potentially related to what your father was trying to achieve with his cleanliness.
This is what I meant by being decisive. You know what you feel comfortable with and what you don’t feel comfortable with. Whether it’s people you don’t want to date or interests. Your mother taught you to be very in touch with your desires because she attempted to go above and beyond to meet your desires at times.
At the same time you feel like you’re indecisive. Potentially, you are in two minds about things when this occurs? Whereas at other times when you decide things more easily, your focus is very clear?
It’s honestly hard to tell guess what might be going on with your feelings of being disconnected from your partner because your trauma is quite active. Can feelings like that occur due to trauma, sure. Can they occur for other reasons too? Sure.
Regarding cleanliness, I’ve had to live with messy flatmates before (hoarders) and at first it made me feel quite angry. But what I learned is that different people have different standards and you can’t control how someone else behaves. So all that’s really left is processing feelings. I acknowledged that I could only control my behaviour and decided that I would prefer to be calmer and lower my expectations for the other person.
Different people have different standards regarding all kinds of things. Texting for example. There is no right or wrong, just different preferences.
Expanding on something I touched on before. Your father shaming you over normal teenage behaviours. There’s a logical fallacy that children experience. I experienced it too with my own abuse.
They believe that if they act perfectly in certain ways that they can prevent abuse by managing their parents mood. But it’s not really about the behaviour. It’s about the emotional instability of the parent. Regardless of what is going on, if an unstable parent feels bad they take out their feelings on their children using excuses because children have a) no control and b) no way to defend themselves. Naturally, children accept what their parents tell them as truth. Except, in this case it’s not.
I’m interested in hearing your thoughts. What do you think?
Wishing you all the best! ๐
October 12, 2023 at 3:05 pm in reply to: Telling the difference between gut and fear in relationships #423029HelcatParticipantHi Seaturtle
My heart goes out to you for your difficulties with trauma. โค๏ธ
It’s good to learn that you’ve already seen a therapist before. That explains your impressive level of self-awareness.
It sounds like your trauma is extremely active for you. Affecting you in a variety of normal situations. It doesn’t sound like your partner either doesn’t understand or isn’t aware of how bad your trauma was. Potentially both.
You mentioned that your partner had some experiences of trauma but he often had the opportunity to escape. This is a very important insight. As the oldest child with multiple siblings I expect that you also had childcare responsibilities for your siblings? This is pretty common when parents struggle to cope. There was no way for you to escape your situation.
It’s not simply not fair of him to call your trauma response during arguments an excuse even when he is upset.
So a good way to communicate that this isn’t appropriate might be. Please don’t call my trauma response an excuse during arguments. I would bring this up next time he does this.
It does sound like your trauma is impacting the relationship which isn’t your fault. There are potentially some things that you can do to help.
Phrasing is very important when communicating triggers. Currently, your partner feels blamed and like he is doing something wrong when you communicate triggers. The reality is that often your triggers occur during situations that others would perceive as normal. So in fact most of the time he is doing nothing wrong. Just accidentally and innocently stepping on a trigger.
Making an effort to watch your phrasing and try to avoid mentioning your partner making you feel a certain way will help him to not feel to blame for your emotional response to a trigger.
You did a good job comforting him after the tickling situation.
I have experienced similar communication issues with my husband. I have PTSD from trauma and need to communicate my triggers too. It has taken some time to figure out a style of communication that helps us both to feel at peace.
An example of communicating a trigger might be. I feel upset because I had a trigger and describing the event that occurred in the past.
Communicating a need will be received better than a perceived complaint. (How he experiences it)
So when you feel an emotional need to be cared for because a trigger has made you feel uncared for. Think about what your partner could do to show you he cares. Going with the hug example.
Could I get a hug? I’m having a trigger. You could maybe explain the past trauma while getting a hug.
I think taking some time to process might be important when you feel upset too. As you pointed out its not always immediately apparent what the trigger is until you reflect on it.
These things are really tricky to navigate. You’re doing the best you can in each moment. Clearly, you are an empathetic and caring person. I think you’re doing a good job, these are just some tips that helped my husband and I to communicate about these things.
You’re resourceful by using a teddy to comfort yourself. I do that too! I’m actually bringing a teddy to the birth of my child because I don’t like to be touched during a PTSD trigger.
Love and best wishes! ๐
HelcatParticipantHi Stacy
Yes, exactly with your friend both things can be true at the same time. It’s definitely valid to feel hurt by that. Sometimes people aren’t able to show up for us when we need them for their own personal reasons are it’s okay to feel hurt despite being able to understand and empathise with their behaviour.
I feel like this is a common theme in your life, a lot of people are unable to support you in your life because of their own personal issues. It’s really hard when there are so many people that let you down this way in your life. It’s understandable, but it’s also really hard for you who has to deal with a chronic lack of support from friends and family.
I’m glad that you recognize that you need to block your ex for your mental health. I can understand why you needed โevidenceโ to help you move on because you have difficulty trusting your instincts. I do think it is time to let go of that though because you have enough evidence and it is worstening your mental health. It’s also a form of self-punishment for you.
I think the issue with your ex was that taking responsibility is a two part process. It involves correcting behaviour. He could say yes, okay this isn’t right. Give a lot of excuses for his behaviour then not change.
I think because of his mental health issues he misunderstood your intent. He took you confronting his behaviour as you telling him he’s a bad person. This is his belief about himself, not your belief about him. All you were ultimately asking is for him to stop doing a behaviour that was harmful to you. Which is called setting a healthy boundary.
I think that he used to care about you but over time his failure to change harmful behaviour and your insistence on setting healthy boundaries started to deteriorate his mental health. He felt guilty about his failure and for hurting you.
The relationship was ultimately not working out which is okay. Relationships don’t work out sometimes. I know it’s really painful. But you need to stop blaming yourself and overly (I say overly because he does deserve some blame) blaming him too. It’s not true to say that he didn’t ever care, even though seeing him move on so quickly makes it feel that way. You’re both just two people who weren’t compatible and were hurting.
The breakup is a sudden shock for you, but likely he’s been considering it for a while, so whilst it seems sudden. For him it’s not.
I think during that relationship you saw glimpses of a beautiful future for yourself. That future isn’t gone. It’s just not with him. Someone healthier will be able to give you all of the love and support you deserve. All you need to do is keep doing what you’re doing. Practice setting healthy boundaries with people. You can do this in your life with your family and friends.
You can’t give from your cup when it’s empty, so don’t be afraid to prioritize yourself when you need self-care. โค๏ธ
Love and best wishes! ๐
October 12, 2023 at 2:44 am in reply to: Telling the difference between gut and fear in relationships #423000HelcatParticipantHi Seaturtle
Thank you for feeling comfortable sharing your thoughts and feelings! I don’t think you’re a narcissist or a taker. It sounds like you’ve experienced a lot of trauma in your life and simply don’t want to end up like your parents.
I can see how much pain you experienced as a child. Psychology is becoming more aware of the massive impact of verbal abuse. I believe this is what you experienced with your father. Repeated criticism can chip away at mental health and the negative messages that we’re told are learned and become a part of our psyche.
I’m glad that your relationship with your father has since improved. You did a very good job standing up for yourself with the car insurance situation.
I don’t know if your parents are narcissists. I’m not a psychologist. I’ve just received a lot of therapy because of my own abuse growing up. I found therapy to be really helpful for healing from trauma. I don’t know if this is something you would consider?
What I find is that some people are better at maintaining relationships from a distance and struggle to say live with others especially when their mental health is bad. I do believe that your father may have some kind of mental health issue. His behaviour is quite similar to my adoptive mother. But yes, people who struggle to live with others when their mental health is bad often take it out on those around them. It was never your fault that he behaved the way he did. Those mistakes are entirely his responsibility. He should never have treat you that way. Some people are not ready to look after children. He was one of those people.
I’m curious about how living with your father affected your mother’s mental health? Part of me wonders, if one of the reasons she cheated is because of your father’s issues. It’s no excuse for her behaviour. Cheating is an abusive behaviour and not okay.
So I mentioned that negative messages we learn can become part of your psyche. You mentioned a connection between how your father accused you of taking showers to avoid him and you experiencing negative thoughts when your boyfriend takes a shower when you’re around.
I would call this an intrusive thought learned from your father as a result of his verbal abuse.
One thing that has helped me when I experience negative thoughts and feelings is questioning, who in my life does this thought remind me of?
I think that you recognize that your father’s behaviour was unhealthy and unreasonable. But the intrusive thought persists because the situation is a trigger, a reminder of what you experienced as a child.
Your father falsely equated normal teenage behaviour with you not caring about him. This trigger causes you to feel uncared for too.
I think asking your boyfriend for a hug once he’s finished with his shower could be a good way to remind yourself that he cares. What do you think about all of this? I’m curious to hear your thoughts.
Love and best wishes! โค๏ธ ๐
HelcatParticipantHi Tammy
Apologies, I didn’t see your post before. Sometimes if it has been a busy day things get pushed to the next page and I only tend to check page one. Well done on being proactive and bringing your thread back to the top of the pile as it were ๐
I’m sorry to hear about the difficulties with your friend.
Would it be okay to ask for a little more context about how that person bullied you? Please don’t feel the need to share if it makes you feel uncomfortable.
I don’t think you’re being petty. You have very real feelings about how you were bullied in your teens.
I think the difficulty is that people tend to believe in change and some time has passed. Perhaps your friend feels like the person who bullied you as a teenager has changed?
It might sound like a silly question, but what hurts about your friend spending time with someone who used to bully you? Do you feel like your feelings are being devalued? That your friend is prioritising the bully? That your friend isn’t protecting you?
You mentioned feeling like loyalty and trust were broken. Can I ask about your concerns regarding trust? Do you feel like your friend would treat you differently or pass on gossip?
It might not be a bad thing to have a conversation with your friend. I think for your peace of mind alone is a good enough reason.
It really depends on how good a friend they are though.
Wishing you all the best! ๐
HelcatParticipantHi Stacy
It might be important for your mental health to block your ex on social media or to take a break from it entirely.
It makes sense that you’re hurt by your ex taking his coworker out on dates. It sounds like he’s moving on quickly, which is painful to think about.
How not to take someone moving on personally?
Well it’s like your friend who took a mental health break from you for a month. It honestly says more about them than you. Someone being upset over a break up is expected. That your friend needed some time away tells me that their mental health is quite poor and that they’re not invested in supporting you during a painful time. That is what friends do, support each other when they’re having a hard time. It’s not your circus, not your monkeys, not your problem.
A concern I have is that you’re using this break up to put yourself down. He came into the relationship with problems that are not your responsibility.
You have a good understanding of healthy boundaries in a relationship. He used your lack of confidence in asserting your boundaries to avoid taking responsibility for his actions.
You did your very best, but he did his best to dismiss your concerns. Notice I said dismiss, because he refused to address them directly.
I don’t think your ex was really a feminist. I think he is someone that could talk about feminism.
It’s disgusting that he used the facade of supporting friends and uplifting women which is clearly a lie as an excuse for his behaviour of cyber stalking someone that he was attracted to and had a connection with.
I don’t like how he suggested that you made him act like this in an effort to cancel him. He directly blamed you and refused to take responsibility for his own actions.
He did have wandering eyes is the only statement of truth. Something that he made no effort to remedy and expected you to accept.
I think that a red flag in a relationship is when you feel the need to go through their social media because it means that you don’t trust them. Going through his social media confirmed your fears. That he was showing interest in others while you were dating.
When it comes to things like this, it’s a non-negotiable in the relationship. Porn fine, whatever every guy does that it’s not personal. Actively expressing sexual interest in people he has connections with is disrespectful. Either he stops, or the relationship ends. I’m not suggesting using ultimatums. Just that staying in a relationship like that actively causes pain.
Please don’t compare yourself to others, it’s harmful. You are a uniquely beautiful person.
I think one takeaway from this relationship is that it was healthier than your last one. I hope that your next relationship will be even healthier still! That’s how these things went for me. Keep working on getting to a healthier relationship until you actually find one with a guy who listens to and addresses your concerns.
You’re very polite and respectful about these things. You deserve someone who cares about being respectful to you!
Wishing you all the best! ๐
HelcatParticipantHi Luna
I have an email address or an imgur account if you would like to communicate outside of the forum.
The email address is tbthrowaway64@gmail.com
The username for imgur is usernamealgorithm
Whichever choose, please feel free to send me a quick message and I can reply to your last message there if you prefer.
Love and best wishes! ๐
October 10, 2023 at 4:52 pm in reply to: Telling the difference between gut and fear in relationships #422942HelcatParticipantHi Seaturtle
You’re welcome! I appreciate that you understood my intent which was to encourage you to share more about how you feel about your partner.
I’m going to reply in a couple of different parts because it’s getting late. But I can share my immediate thoughts now.
You seem like a very intelligent and self-aware young woman. You’ve already made some really important self-discoveries, well done!
Thereโs an idea about soulmates that I quite enjoy. Probably different from how you use the term. Still, I wonder your thoughts about it? Basically, soulmates can be friends, lovers, family. Anyone with a significant impact in our lives. The idea is that many different souls come into your life to teach you different things.
I really enjoy this idea, since I think who we choose to spend time with and why is very important because we learn from them as we spend time with them.
In some ways, I think we all teach each other when dating because it’s very much about compromise. Not every guy you date is the same and vice versa. We all have different preferences and needs. Dating is all about communicating and meeting each others needs.
By reading about how you feel about your partner you clearly love your partner, despite your differences. I think that you’re more decisive than you realize! You dump unsuitable guys very quickly, which is a great thing. It sounds like you chose to stay with your partner for a reason.
At any time please feel free to share your thoughts if you disagree. You know yourself much better than I do and I can very much be wrong!
Do you notice a pattern in how you feel about your partner and how your parents raised you?
For example, your father’s love being conditional. And your mother’s overcomforting doing her best to provide you with anything you wanted.
This could link to to the theory about learning from the people that we spend time with I mentioned earlier. Quite often we learn a lot from our parents, whether we like it or not.
Throughout your life you were taught that you deserve to have anything you want from your mother. Meanwhile, your father taught you that you should reject people when they โlet you downโ.
These messages could translate to the conflicting feelings that you have about your partner? What do you think?
For example, he should be perfect and share my favourite interests with me, spirituality and comedy. But he doesn’t! So maybe he’s not the right person for me.
I hope that I haven’t hurt you by simplifying it to these points. I really just want to know if you see a pattern since you brought up your family history.
I hope that you feel comfortable enough to share any thoughts you have. โค๏ธ
I will be able to share the rest of my thoughts tomorrow.
Wishing you all the best! ๐
HelcatParticipantHi Alecsee
So you’ve been offered a job and you’re unsure about whether to take it or not.
You’ve been feeling hurt by the way your boss and others have been behaving at your current job. Is this behaviour likely to continue? You enjoy the work itself and having a schedule that gives you flexibility. At the same time, you recognize that this schedule can be a bit unhealthy.
The new job, you’re concerned it’s going to be not as interesting, potentially even boring. And you don’t like the idea of losing your freedom to travel.
I wonder though, do the number of vacation days increase at the new job depending on how many years you work there?
The new job provides a great pension which is tempting. Is there a difference in pay between the two roles?
You mentioned feeling nervous about change. That makes sense, there are a lot of unknowns with the new job. You don’t know how management will be, how the coworkers will be. Which is basically the main reason you even entertained the idea of looking for a new job in the first place.
My question is on your resume/cv is this job a step up career wise? Because if things are not suitable at the new place you might look for another job again.
If things are good at the new job, then really the only downside is not having as much freedom to travel.
I’d love to hear your more of thoughts. The only person who can really make this decision is you.
Wishing you all the best! ๐
HelcatParticipantHi Luna
That’s quite alright! There is no rush ๐ I’m sorry to hear that your week had a lot of ups and downs. I’m glad that things seem to be calming down.
At the moment, I’m enjoying the chocolate apples available for Halloween. Here, the children go trick or treating and the adults get drunk at parties. My sister loves Halloween and enjoys dressing up for it. Usually, we watch horror movies together for Halloween. Do you have any favourite horror movies? The local woods are stunning this time of year now the leaves have changed colour.
Something special is happening for me. My husband and I are having our first child. Iโm very nervous, as well as excited. The hormones are crazy! Ups and downs all of the time. I read a story about a pregnant lady crying over running out of orange juice early in the pregnancy and thought โThat’s silly. I’ll never be like thatโฆโ. Well now I understand how she felt. ๐
Good luck with your poetry! If you would like to share any here you are welcome (it doesn’t have to be written by you, it could just be something that you enjoyed reading). I enjoy poetry too.
My favourite piece is by DH Lawrence:
I never saw a wild thing feel sorry for itself. A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough without ever having felt sorry for itself.
<p style=”text-align: left;”>Some may find it a little bleak. But for me it’s a nice reminder not to feel sorry for myself when things are difficult.</p>
That’s honestly fair! Everyone deserves to be treat with respect when they are courageous and brave with sharing their feelings. I think that you have a very positive view of rejection. I agree. The way I think about it is there are billions of people on the planet. We’re all looking for compatibility. It’s down to luck who we bump into and if they’re not compatible, it’s no ones fault. Good luck meeting someone that they are compatible with!That’s a really healthy view of a relationship. That’s honestly how I feel with my husband and why I married him. It was the first time Iโd ever felt like that. I felt like he even accepted the parts of me that I didn’t like about myself. In a way, him loving me; being kind and supportive taught me how to love myself.
I stumbled through relationships for a while wondering what love was. It’s great that you already intuitively understand it. You already know what you’re looking for! Be patient because these types of relationship can be hard to find.
I’m glad that you didn’t find my story distressing. Dating isn’t always sunshine and roses. I think it’s important to be aware of difficulties on the dating scene too. Iโm okay and happy to share these stories with you. โค๏ธ
My next relationship was a long term one. My first long term relationship. It was long distance, we met online and enjoyed talking. I visited him and we even planned for me to move to be with him. I had a difficult family life, so I wasn’t sad to leave it behind. But still it was a big decision. Where this relationship broke down is that this partner didn’t communicate very well in-person. Whereas online he was very communicative. So it was like two different experiences in-person vs long distance. He couldn’t cope with having important conversations and shut down, so I ended the relationship. It was difficult because I loved him, but sometimes love alone isn’t enough.
I’m curious about your forward thinking. I’m only just starting to plan for the future, I was in survival mode for a lot of my life. I don’t want you to share things that you don’t feel comfortable with though. As you said, it is a public forum, so I totally respect your privacy.
Love and best wishes! ๐
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