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  • #49253
    bodhisatva
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    Dr Mojo !
    I feel compelled to reply.. its uncanny.. but I went through the exact same thing.. no kidding.. Doctor, dated for 3 yrs, long term for 2 yrs, took flights across the country, sometimes to spend hours, placed her on a pedestal, all set to get a ring, and then found out she d been unfaithful. Completely broken, pain, crying, crying some more, falling apart at work, talking to my floor Social worker and to colleagues and staff about being single (and more than my share of “doctor= good catch” )Now 4 months later, Its better. Won’t lie to you, its not completely healed and i still have my issues, but its a lot better.
    One thing I promise you is the impermanence of this situation, it will feel better in time. Take it easy on yourself, And I would follow Matt’s Rx (it works !!), self consideration, Gym Yoga and meditation. Everything else comes second right now.
    Another is, It ll make you a better physician, somehow this cracks open your heart ( which had , I admit, become hard from the YEARS of cynicism during training) and the patients relate to you more. Its happened with me for sure. And honestly it feels good to help people.
    One thing which sucks even till now is I had no social circle due to the traveling, and now am stuck. One thing I am consciously trying to do is make more single, non medical friends to expand my horizons, eventually may meet someone interesting, who knows. But now I float more, swim less and its worked well till now.
    I hope you take good care of yourself brother, and find a better job soon ( I am job hunting too, isn’t that weird 🙂
    B

    #46810
    bodhisatva
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    Hi Kristy
    I am sorry for the confusion you feel, however, as a man who was on the other side of a similar but worse situation, I d really really wish for you to think through and medicate over this situation before you make any decisions. This is not completely fair towards your husband, who seems to be a loving man. There is no judgement involved, and there is certainly possibility of two people growing apart, however, it should be done amicably, with truth and love. Otherwise there is only hurt down this path, for you, your husband and the man you feel is your soulmate, which may takes months to years to heal.
    Please take the advice above and reach into your heart, which i know is good but misguided at present.
    good luck to you sister,
    love
    B

    #45991
    bodhisatva
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    Hi,
    I am trying to get back on the same horse 🙂 here s a few things I found which resonated well
    1) the infidelity had nothing to do with you, but the way you let it affect you is your choice.
    2) for me, the whole mess has been the greatest spiritual growing experience till now.
    3) dating again with the perspective that you ll be fine even when single can be a lot more fun and fulfilling.
    4) Self confidence comes from the self..
    5) there are atleast five TED talks that should be listened to , about vulnerability, shame, self compassion , seduction and marriage.
    6) Once you start growing as a person, you ll attract the right kind of people, they ll be drawn to your being.
    Good luck to you (and to me), hope it helps.
    love
    B

    #45825
    bodhisatva
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    Hi Simone,
    As a man who was recently in the situation your fiance is in, this post really helped me gain perspective (and may seem biased, but I tried not to be 🙂 ). I am sorry for all this pain and mess you are going through, and want you to know you are not alone. What I would suggest is may be taking some time off before making that big a decision, there shouldnt be any rush in the matters of the heart.
    Other option you could actually explore is to put in more into your relationship with your fiance, even if you are unsure, if you still see a spark in there. Go all in with him, dissect the relationship and see if the differences are reconcilable, may be use counseling or spiritual guidance. He must be hurt, but there is nothing that a heartfelt apology and a willingness to delve deeper into the relationship issues will not fix, who knows, may be you guys will have a stronger bond coming out of this.
    if you dont see a future with the ex, then i would suggest let him go amicably, and wish him well. The other man seems like an escape, he makes you feel better about yourself, because you feel he wouldn’t judge you, however, this may be a manifestation of just not loving yourself enough. The love you feel is plain excitement and attachment. He seems like an escape route you unfortunately and inadvertently planned to avoid facing the real deal. ( ** I just read the part about him having a significant other, I would really suggest stay away from him, this means he is being disrespectful to his partner, you and your partner, think about it, would a male figure you idealize do the same, real men have integrity to not give into immoral situations)
    Please take some time off of him and try to find yourself, and nurture the truly beautiful person you are, things happen and then they are over, there shouldn’t be anything to be ashamed about if you find the root cause and turn it into a teaching experience. If you feel comfortable with your own being and are OK with being single, still harbor feelings for the other person, then may be you can start something with him, but not now, when you are so unsure about yourself.
    Hopefully you and your fiance will find some peace,
    with love
    B

    #45794
    bodhisatva
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    Hi Simone,
    As a man who was recently in the situation your fiance is in, this post really helped me gain perspective (and may seem biased, but I tried not to be 🙂 ). I am sorry for all this pain and mess you are going through, and want you to know you are not alone. What I would suggest is may be taking some time off before making that big a decision, there shouldnt be any rush in the matters of the heart.
    Other option you could actually explore is to put in more into your relationship with your fiance, even if you are unsure, if you still see a spark in there. Go all in with him, dissect the relationship and see if the differences are reconcilable, may be use counseling or spiritual guidance. He must be hurt, but there is nothing that a heartfelt apology and a willingness to delve deeper into the relationship issues will not fix, who knows, may be you guys will have a stronger bond coming out of this.
    if you dont see a future with the ex, then i would suggest let him go amicably, and wish him well. The other man seems like an escape, he makes you feel better about yourself, because you feel he wouldn’t judge you, however, this may be a manifestation of just not loving yourself enough. The love you feel is plain excitement and attachment. He seems like an escape route you unfortunately and inadvertently planned to avoid facing the real deal. Please take some time off of him and try to find yourself, and nurture the truly beautiful person you are, things happen and then they are over, there shouldn’t be anything to be ashamed about if you find the root cause and turn it into a teaching experience. If you feel comfortable with your own being and are OK with being single, still harbor feelings for the other person, then may be you can start something with him, but not now, when you are so unsure about yourself.
    Hopefully you and your fiance will find some peace,
    with love
    B

    #45171
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    #45170
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    Thanks Matt for the wise words.. my urge has settled for today atleast, will meditate on the rest. however, my logical brain thinks isnt it important for me to empathize to forgive, to consider her a victim of her weaknesses and then let go, instead of being bitter at present. then shouldnt an honest apology be important? for her and for me both? I still refusr to see her as a bad person, its just that i never would have imagined she ll have trouble speaking with me about anything.. even after evreything is over. I will not contact her regarding this.. but this thought continues to haunt me still

    #45165
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    I need some words of wisdom.. As mentioned above, I had broken off the most long lasting and loving relationship i had due to her infidelity then lies afterwards, and had (atleast thought so) moved on.. thinking little of her, focussing on my physical and mental well being and just being comfortable myself. I went back to my hometown to see my family, and it turns out she is back here too. and then she emails me, how she didnt try hard enough for me.. I replied, breaking my no contract rule, that there is no us anymore and she should move on.. but now i find myself caught in her pattern again, feeling similar as a few months ago, when i would wake up every morning around 4 due to nightmares of her and the other person. I get these urges to contact her and atleast ask for the truth, the hows, whats and whys of her actions and for an honest apology, since all her prior ones had an agenda, measured truths and she could never find the courage (may be she s too sshamed) to just get it all out at once and rip that band aid off.. is torturing myself for it justifiable, when i dont see any furture with her ? I should be letting go of her and these thoughts, but a part of me, which ii thought was weaker than before, says it is best i find out everything and then work on forgiveness and empathy.. i am lost at present and am afraid might contact her and regret it later.

    #44338
    bodhisatva
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    Hi Ben and Francis,
    I have been on the same road for the past 4 months, after suffering my first real heart break, and boy is it something. Currently i think i am faking it till i make it.. but i have found if you continue to smile and talk positive, no matter what, however bad you may be feeling inside, it does blunts the pain a bit.. and i hope i will get into a habit of just smiling and breathing through these moments.. and have decided once i get to that point, may be then start dating again. I have always been quite reserved and find it hard to make new friends, specially because i am not from the country, but am trying to expand my horizons there as well.. but it is nice to know so many people across here have been through same (and some freakishingly similar stories, which makes me believe everyone is the same and have a good and a bad side) and have grown so much. It gives me immense hope and strength. And really cool words to tell myself when i am down 🙂 My best wishes and prayers to all of you, please take care
    B

    #44337
    bodhisatva
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    but how about the heart’s insistence of knowing the hows and whys of heartbreak, specially infidelity ? and isnt a stable complete loving relationship require 100% commitment, ie all in, all eggs in one fragile basket ?

    #44098
    bodhisatva
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    Matt ! thank you for putting it in such beautiful words. I was thinking this all day myself, may be i am going down the wrong path by wishing bad karma on her and him, maybe i should try to forgive and hope they wake up to the calling of their conscience soon.. however, my mind chatters, often for long periods of time and aggravates me, putting me into the same pattern as they are.. I ll be more mindful of that and practice breathing when it happens. hope this helps you too sapna !

    #43990
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    Thanks everyone for their views, they resonate with mine as well, so convince me a bit more to follow this path. However, I sometmes get stuck between forgiveness and playing a victim.. when i try hard to forgive her and not curse/feel angry, i feel i am rushing myself and then i feel like a victim because of all the negative emotions.. and this cycle continues and i feel it hampers my growth. I would also really want to meet someone new but this keeps holding me back.. i havent even been on a date yet. My friends suggest casual physical relations may help but i again think they wont heal the deep gash my heart has.

    #43987
    bodhisatva
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    Hi B123,
    I think this man is confused regarding your relationship, as are you.. Wouldnt it be better if both of you took time off to think and grow your own selves up and then maybe, if your hearts harbour feelings, have an open and honest discussion, and not the superficial hi on a messenger ? I dont think you are responsible for him sorting his mind out, and you wont be able to point him in that direction anyways, but you can do it to yourself though, i suggest asking him to not contact you and then focussing on your own spiritual growth would do you more good. maybe along the way your heart will open for someone else who would see the wonderful person you are and will not have a doubt, or maybe your heart will lead you back to him, but only after you are completely happy with being yourself and being single. I pray you find peace and love.

    #43356
    bodhisatva
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    Dear Fe,
    As a man who recently broke up (She cheated, I couldnt get over it), I can tell you we don’t get over the Ex that easily. It was actually harder for me initially because i tend to bottle things up ( like a lot of us do), only after posting on this site and reading others’ stories I realised that it is the wrong way to deal with the pain, and so is trying to distract oneself with new interests. I now try to feel better about myself, be comfortable being single and try to forgive. Its been 4 months, I still cry occasionally and not a day goes by when I don’t think about her, but I have accepted the fact that it is OKAY for me to take my time as this is how time heals things. At some point I will be ready to date again, however it is not now. It seems like either your ex started this process while dating you or he is just delaying the inevitable by distracting himself away from his heart. In either case, its no longer your problem, you will have to take your time, however long, to forgive him and love yourself. And you will be the one coming out so much stronger, more confident and much more attractive. this site is a wonderful resource for doing that.

    Matt,
    I completely agree with the twisted concept of masculinity in the society. I myself am not the lumbarjack, but do tend to remain stoic. however, in my intimate relationships, i feel in order to be open and emotionally available, I may turn a bit clingy. And now is a wonderful time to realize it and try to change for the better, emotional and strong as you put it,
    Thanks for the post brother
    Namaste 🙂

    #42419
    bodhisatva
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    Thanks Matt, I started practicing Metta, everyday before bed, however, today I woke up with a foul mood, kept calling names to people to have hurt me, all day.. reverse metta if you will, and by evening it kicked in , I realized I was angry and hurtful, and every thing I worked for in the last few days floated away. Why would such thing happen ? Is my subconscious resisting it ? Does it happen to others during their journey too?
    Also, I had a question, does going Vegan/Vegetarian help ?

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