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anitaParticipantDear Lucidity:
Your post carries so much depth, reflection, and emotional truth. At the heart of all of this is your longing for genuine connection, a desire for reciprocity and engagement that wasnât met despite your efforts. You tried, you accommodated, and you held space for the possibility of changeâbut ultimately, you saw that continuing the cycle only drained you emotionally. Your decision to step away, put the responsibility on your sister, and reclaim your own boundaries is both courageous and self-respecting.
Still, in the clarity, there is grief. You mourn not just the relationship that never fully formed but the childhood disconnect that preceded itâthe realization that you and your sister were strangers even while living under the same roof. The contrast between your experiences is striking: while she had the support you craved, she remains emotionally distant and unavailable, deepening the frustration and alienation you feel.
I can see how painful it must be to witness her sharing personal updates with near-strangers while keeping you at armâs length, especially after expressing the desire to be closer. But in choosing clarity over longing, self-respect over accommodation, you are freeing yourself from the emotional merry-go-round that has exhausted you.
Your sisterâs avoidance speaks volumesânot about you, but about what she may be unwilling or unable to face. A deeper relationship with you might require her to confront hard truths about your shared past, her privilege within that system, and the emotional discomfort that comes with true vulnerability. She may fear disrupting her carefully controlled reality, where deep conversations and truth-telling could introduce turbulence she isnât prepared to handle.
Itâs not surprising that your empathy toward her is active and reflective, while hers, at best, is passive and detachedâperhaps self-protective, but ultimately, emotionally distant. You seek connection, understanding, reciprocity, and honesty; she seems to seek comfort, stability, and distance from emotional complexity.
Though this resolution comes with sadness, it also comes with strength. You have chosen to honor your boundaries, to free yourself from an exhausting dynamic, and to move forward with clarity instead of waiting for something that may never arrive. That is a kind of healing, even if it isnât the closure you had once hoped for.
our mother’s role in our lives, but she was resistant and invalidating, suggesting that I misinterpreted things or was too sensitive. Such conversations have ended long ago. Our occasional (far from frequent) talks are about her personal, current concerns. She is suffering a lot and I postpone calling her simply because I am afraid of the pain I will feel with new revelations about her sufferings, mental, emotional and even physical. ”
Hereâs a polished version of your heartfelt reflection, with improved flow and clarity while preserving the depth of your emotions:In regard to my sister and me, we were, much like you and your sister, “strangers even while at home.” Perhaps she tried to get close to meâbeing six years youngerâbut maybe I rejected her. I donât remember. I have only a few fragmented memories of her while I was growing up (or as I prefer to say, “growing-in,” as in inward, isolated on every level). I have no recollection of either of us trying to bridge that gap, no memory of me reaching out to her or her reaching out to me.
Sadly and regretfully, I physically abused her. I have one vivid memory of itâshe was maybe two, and I was eightâbut Iâve been told there were many more incidents. I deeply regret those moments. If only I could go back in time.
Interestingly, she never complained about the physical abuseânot mine, nor the abuse inflicted by our mother. There was just so much of itâphysical abuse, shaming, guilt-trippingâall directed at both of us by our mother. It was overwhelming, a constant storm we endured together yet separately.
For whatever itâs worth, as an adult, Iâve tried to make amends. I sent her large amounts of money along with heartfelt apologies, hoping to express my regret and take responsibility for the harm I caused.
As adults, Iâve also tried to have conversations with her about our childhood, particularly about our motherâs role in our lives. But she has been resistant and invalidating, often suggesting that I misinterpreted things or was simply too sensitive. Those conversations ended long ago. Now, our occasionalâand far from frequentâtalks revolve around her personal, current concerns.
She is suffering a lot, and I find myself postponing calls with her. I hesitate because I fear the pain Iâll feel when faced with new revelations about her strugglesâmental, emotional, and even physical.
I would love to read your thoughts about what I expressed in this post in regard to your situation and mine. Any advice for me, Lucidity?
anita
anitaParticipantDear Peter:
I want to reflect on your words: “Last night I watched a BBC interview… He spoke in a slow, calm manner, his breath even… At the end of the interview, both Ken, the interviewer, and I had tears welling in the corner of our eyes. It seemed to me Ken Burns was speaking from his Truth, a still point of compassion that his passion for history had opened in him.”
His communication wasnât rushed or reactive, but rather purposeful, measured, and deeply considered. His calm, measured delivery seemed to evoke a sense of trust in you, trust that he was not merely performing or persuading, but revealing something deeply authentic. That calm presence had a way of creating space in you and in the interviewer, space for connection, inviting you into his experience.
If he had delivered his thoughts in an agitated mannerâhis voice strained, uneven, hurriedâit might have had an entirely different effect. Agitation often signals urgency, frustration, or defensiveness, and in communication, it can make the listener feel pushed rather than invited, reactive rather than reflective. Instead of drawing you in, it might have created a barrier, leading to hesitation about whether his words were driven by deep understanding or emotional turbulence.
Trust and empathy are closely linkedâboth require an openness to receiving anotherâs truth without resistance or skepticism. Empathy allows us to feel what another is expressing, and trust emerges when we sense that their expression is authentic and vulnerable, rather than performative or manipulative.
This is how I want to communicateâwith calm and intention, rather than haste or reactivity. I want my words to be guided by deep understanding, not emotional turbulenceâinviting the listener into reflection rather than pushing them toward reaction.
anita
anitaParticipantDeveloping the imagery further: a virus hijacks the hostâs cellular machinery to replicate itself. Similarly, distorted thinking hijacks the person’s emotional machinery so to replicate itself (over analyzing, ruminating).
The virus enters a host cell by binding to its receptors; distorted thinking enters a person’s mind by binding to the person’s emotions.
The host cell mistakenly follows the virusâs genetic instructions, producing viral proteins and assembling new virus particles; the person mistakenly believes distorted thinking, producing meta emotions (emotions about emotions).
The new viruses burst out of the host cell, often destroying it in the process, and go on to infect more cells; one person’s distorted thinking destroys the person and it infects other people with whom the person interacts.
So, the solution is not to not think (an impossible long-term strategy), but to remove infected thinking, distorted thinking and false beliefs.
I will do this right now, move the process along:
(1) infected thinking # 1: I was an inherently inferior zygote, fetus, baby, born of a lesser value than other babies.
no, I was a fine and dandy zygote, fetus and baby đ€
(2) Infected thinking # 2: I was guilty of my mother’s suffering and it was my job to fix my guilty ways.
no, I was not guilty of any of my mother suffering. There was no job for me to do as far as fixing (not guilty) ways.
(3) Infected thinking #3 (this is a subtle one): I should feel badly about the future of the economy (tariffs) because it’s my fault or because I can fix the situation.
no, I can’t đ. There is absolutely nothing I can do about it.
* This sense of false responsibility, starting in regard to my mother’s suffering and onward, that’s a pervasive one.
(4) Everyone is about to turn against me and hurt me. It’s just a matter of time.
no. Not everyone and that’s for sure.
(5) I have to list all of my infected thinkings, otherwise I am guilty of lack of thoroughness, or perfection.
no. that ship (perfection) has sailed long ago. I was never perfect, never will be, and neither will you đ
anita
anitaParticipantDear Peter:
This stood out for me: “I find that Iâm seeing this light more often as I learn to look.”-the idea of looking is a skill that can be learned.
Your reflection on secondary emotions also struck me: “In hindsight, when I analyze emotion as a way to process them, I was really questioning if I had a right to feel what I felt⊠A process that creates the secondary emotions. The thoughts of the emotions creating emotions.”-
It makes me think about how emotions and thoughts can become tangled, forming layers upon layers, like an unchecked system of feedback loops. When cognitive distortions (inaccurate thoughts) or false beliefs creep in, they act like a virus, infecting the natural emotional response and replicating unchecked.
Imagine the virus taking holdâone distorted thought, one false belief, and suddenly, instead of a single emotion being felt, it splits and multiplies, generating meta-emotions. What begins as sadness, for example, mutates into guilt for feeling sad, frustration for not overcoming it quickly, shame for needing supportâa whole network of emotions that spiral beyond the original source.
Like any virus, the more it spreads, the harder it becomes to locate the original healthy emotion beneath the layers of distortion. The healing process, then, isnât about rejecting emotions but identifying and clearing the cognitive distortions that trap themâallowing them to flow without excessive processing or judgment.
Perhaps the antidote isnât perfect clarity or control but recognizing when the system is becoming infected and choosing presence over excessive analysis.
I wonderâhow do you recognize when thought has begun to distort emotion rather than clarify it?
anita
April 8, 2025 at 3:38 pm in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #444729
anitaParticipantDear Dafne:
You are always welcome, Dafne, and thank you for your appreciation, warmth and kindness đ€.
I want to take a moment to acknowledge how much strength it takes to keep battling those heavy thoughts every day. The fact that you continue to push forward speaks to your resilience.
When you talk about keeping things low-key at homeâbeing quiet, invisible, avoiding confrontationâit really stands out to me. While this may feel like the safest approach in the moment, I want to gently remind you that having to suppress yourself to avoid conflict is not a healthy long-term strategy. Itâs heartbreaking that you feel like that little child again, afraid to be seen or heard. You deserve to take up space, to have a voice, to feel safe in your own homeânot like you have to shrink yourself for peace and silence yourself to feel safe.
If you could imagine living in a space where you didnât have to suppress yourselfâwhere you could express yourself freely without fearâwhat do you think that would look like? What would it feel like to have that kind of environment?
As for the “old spiders”, or fiends, resurfacing, itâs completely understandable that you donât want to reengage with people who didnât value you in the past. You are not obligated to offer them space in your life just because they suddenly regret their choices. You are allowed to prioritize your well-being over someone else’s guilt or nostalgia.
Regarding whether men and women can be just friends, my belief is that friendship is rooted in mutual respect and emotional connection, regardless of gender. True friendships should not compete with romantic relationships. Your preference for not being with someone whose best friend is a woman is completely validâitâs about what feels comfortable and safe for you.
You are navigating so much, Dafne, and I hope you continue to give yourself grace as you process all of these experiences. Your healing is happening, even if it takes time. I am always here to remind you that you are not alone.
Sending you warmth and strength âïžđȘ.
anita
anitaParticipantDear MissLDuchess:
Your words carry strength and self-awareness. The fact that youâre stepping forwardânot just into the possibility of music, but into a life where fear of rejection no longer defines your choicesâis already a victory.
Letting go of what others think doesnât mean withdrawingâit means creating space for the right people and opportunities, the ones that truly align with who you are. And blooming isnât about forcing yourself to thrive in the wrong soilâitâs about finding the environment where you naturally belong.
No matter the outcome of the audition, the act of tryingâof embracing uncertaintyâis already a testament to your courage. Youâre stepping into a version of yourself that is no longer ruled by fear, and that kind of growth will continue to open doors you never imagined.
Iâm excited to see where this journey leads you! đ
anita
anitaParticipantDear Scw:
The original poster of this thread, whom you quoted, deleted her account sometime in 2014, more than 10 years ago, so I doubt she will be reading your post of today. Also, there is no PM option here.
If you would like to share more about your situation, thoughts and feelings, you are welcome to do it here, and I, for one, would be glad to read and reply.
* Dear Friend: I somehow missed your post of only 5 days ago. Are you still here, reading this? Please let me know.
anita
anitaParticipantDear Peter:
Processing and commenting:
The tension between thought and feeling= the internal struggle between intellect and emotion, analysis and experience, reason and instinct. It occurs when a person is caught between processing emotions rationally and allowing themselves to fully feel and express them.
Some people, like myself, rely on analysis as a way to process emotionsâ I try to understand, label, and define my feelings rather than simply experiencing them. It’s definitely an engrained habit.
* I just felt fear and I can see why I would rather not experience it.
While reflection and intellectualization can be helpful, it can also distance someone from the raw emotional experience itself, making emotions feel like puzzles to solve rather than feelings to embrace.
* How does a person embrace fear?
Intellectually inclined individuals may suppress emotions because they fear being overwhelmed by them or believe that feeling emotions fully might make them lose control.
Thought often seeks logical conclusions, explanations, and certainty, while feelings exist in a space of ambiguity and fluidity.
* I don’t like ambiguity and fluidity (unless I dance free style while tipsy).
If someone struggles with uncertainty, they might attempt to control emotions by rationalizing them, rather than allowing themselves to sit in emotional discomfort and simply feel.
* To simply feel .. feels dangerous.
Thinking too much about emotions can sometimes lead to emotional detachmentâanalyzing emotions can feel safer than actually experiencing them.
* Safer indeed.
This tension might make it difficult for someone to connect deeply with others, because they are more focused on understanding emotions intellectually rather than allowing themselves to be vulnerable.
* Definitely me.
The balance between thought and feeling is essentialâtoo much intellect creates emotional distance, while too much unchecked emotion can feel destabilizing.
* Don’t like feeling destabilized!
Allowing emotions to exist without immediate analysis can foster self-awareness and acceptance, leading to deeper emotional understanding and healing. Learning to balance reflection with emotional experienceâknowing when to analyze and when to simply feelâcan create a more holistic emotional well-being.
* Definitely easier said than done. But I want to do it. So, back to fear, fear without the intellect… First, there is no way to avoid the intellect and yet keep typing words.
Meet the fear where it is: yes, here it is. Fear. Oh, I see. Fear is not dangerous (a relief). It’s not my enemy. It’s trying to protect me. So, it’s a friend. I see. No reason to be afraid of fear then. Hmmm…
I didn’t know I’ve been afraid of the fear itself.
Fear cannot be eliminated, but fear of fear can. What a concept.
A concept made possible by intellect, intellect patient enough to feel the fear first, if only for a moment.
anita
anitaParticipantDear Tom:
It sounds like thereâs a lot happening internally, and youâre carrying this weight mostly on your own. I understand why youâre putting on a brave faceâsometimes it feels easier to push through rather than face the heaviness directly. But struggling in silence can be exhausting, and suppressing emotions often does more harm than good.
When feelings are held in, they donât disappearâthey accumulate. Unprocessed stress can manifest physically, leading to headaches, tension, fatigue, or disrupted sleep. Emotionally, it can create a cycle where self-doubt, overthinking, and isolation reinforce one another, making challenges feel even more overwhelming. Over time, suppressing emotions can cause burnout, anxiety, and emotional numbness, making it harder to truly connect with others or feel joy.
Itâs a good thing that you have a career coach meeting coming upâmaybe thatâs a chance to explore whether this is burnout, misalignment with your work, something deeper, or a combination of things. No matter what, your feelings are valid, and it makes complete sense why this has been weighing on you.
And please donât apologize for ventingâyour thoughts and emotions matter. If expressing them helps lighten the weight, gain clarity, or simply feel heard, youâre always welcome to do so. Youâre not alone in this. đ
anita
anitaParticipantDear MissLDuchess:
I see something we shareâa deep longing for self-expression born from years of suppression. Like you, I spent much of my early life in survival mode, unable to fully explore who I was.
At your age, I carried many of the same feelingsâhurt, resentment, and struggles with self-worth, all rooted in rejection, exclusion, and social isolation. I felt like I was never âgood enoughâ to be included. Like you, I dreamed of being seen, heard, and recognized, imagining myself on stage with thousands cheering me on (and millions watching me on TV all over the world đł)âtransforming from a “nobody” locally, into a “somebody” internationally.
I was chronically single and lonely. The pattern in my life mirrored yoursâlonging for connection, fearing rejection, and withdrawing instead of taking risks.
I resented the way people treated me, yet I feared confrontation and avoided setting boundaries. My anger built up internally, making it difficult to endure. What I didnât realize at the time was that suppressed emotions donât disappearâthey manifest in ways we donât always see. I may have tried to be kind, but hesitation, guardedness, and underlying resentment shaped my interactions. Even unspoken anger creates tension, altering the way people perceive us, even when no words are spoken.
Looking back, I realize that I encountered people like your roommateâthose who were inconsiderate and unkind, even cruel, people who saw my vulnerability and took advantage of it. The frustration, hurt, and betrayal left lasting scars.
But as I reflect deeper, I see that not everyone who disappointed me was truly bad. Some were genuinely good people, but flawedâhuman. In moments of pain, I judged them harshly, seeing their imperfections as defining faults instead of limitations.
I expected people to always show up perfectly, always understand, always support me in exactly the way I needed. And when they failed to be perfectâI assumed they were just another source of hurt. I expected the worst, and any imperfection felt like proof that they were bad people.
I learned that people noticed my anger (as suppressed as it usually was), they noticed my distrust and suspicion and responded by withdrawing from me, and sometimes getting angry at me in return, which reinforced my distrust and suspicion (a self-fulfilling prophecy)
Iâve come to realize that thereâs a difference between those who intentionally cause harm and those who simply arenât capable of meeting us where we need them. Holding onto this distinction has helped me navigate forgiveness (a recent development in my life, still working on it) ânot to excuse the actions of those who truly hurt me, but to release the weight of resentment toward those who were imperfect yet well-meaning.
Reading your words, MissLDuchess, I see someone who has carried so much inside for so longâyour dreams, your voice, your frustration, your anger. For years, youâve held back your creativity out of fear, just as youâve held back expressing your emotions. In a way, your suppression of music mirrors the suppression of your angerâboth silenced to avoid discomfort, both waiting for permission to exist fully.
Maybe this audition isnât just about singingâmaybe itâs about allowing yourself to take up space, to be heard, to express whatâs been locked away for so long. Whether itâs standing on stage or finally speaking your truth, you deserve to be seen and understood.
No matter the outcome, stepping forward would be a victory. What would it feel like to approach your emotions the same wayâwith the confidence that you deserve to express them?
anita
anitaParticipantIt is exciting, MissLDuchess- the plan to submit an audition for a talent show! It is evening here, and I would like to reply further in the morning.
anita
anitaParticipantOne more thing, MissLDuchess-
In regard to “if Iâd chosen to chase stardom as an actress/singer like I wanted to do as a kid and teen”- I would love to hear more about this. As a teen, I used to daydream a lot, imagining myself singing in front of large audiences, as well as being a famous movie star.
anita
anitaParticipantDear MissLDuchess:
You are welcome. I hear you completely. The weight of past experiences, the “what ifs,” and the uncertainty around trustâthey all make so much sense given what youâve been through.
Itâs understandable to look back and wonder how things could have been different. You navigated so much on your own, carried burdens that werenât fair, and still, here you areâreflecting, processing, and wanting meaningful connections despite everything.
I want you to know that your feelings are validâevery doubt, every fear, every wish for something better. And the fact that you still want love, connection, and purpose, despite the hurt youâve endured, says so much about your heart.
Iâm here, and I respect your trust. No pressure, no expectationsâjust a space where you can express yourself freely. đ
anita
anitaParticipantDear Peter- everyone:
You recently wrote, “I suspect we have fallen into a trap of language”, and “I was concerned that we were getting lost in a attempt to define experience as definitions.” In this reply (to your most recent post), I will try to do neither. Here it is:
Your words resonate in a way beyond definitions. That moment in natureâthe depth of it, the way it shifted something inside youâit wasnât about labeling the experience, but simply being in it.
Maybe truth isnât something to hold or explain, but something to move from. The stillness you felt, the compassion that aroseâthose are real, because they shaped the way you walked forward, whether or not they lasted in the form of feeling.
Rather than chasing understanding, perhaps itâs about allowing what was known in that moment to simply exist within you, unchanged by the need to prove it. What do you think?
anita
anitaParticipantDear MissLDutchess:
I read your new posts in your other thread and donât want to interrupt any conversation you might be having with another member there. However, I wanted to say that I truly understand how difficult that experience with your roommate must have beenâI know I would have struggled in your place as well. The constant noise, lack of consideration, and disruption to your rest and sleep sound incredibly frustrating.
I can imagine that the situation, combined with the lack of support from the RA, may have brought back memories of being bullied in middle school, where school staff failed to step in. Itâs painful when those early experiences of not receiving adequate support from adults seem to repeat in different contexts.
If venting is helping you, please feel free to continue. And if anything Iâve shared so far has been helpfulâor if thereâs another way I can support youâjust let me know.
anita
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