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anitaParticipantDear Lisa:
On May 25, 2017, you wrote: “I know on paper what needs to be done but I feel like Iâm climbing a hill made of mud.”
And on June 30, 2025, you said: “I feel as if I am climbing up a steep hill of mud, not able to get anywhere. I really need a vacation from my life or a guide.”
Eight years apart, and yet the image stayed the same. That steep hill of mudâslow, heavy, slipperyâis such a powerful way to describe what youâve been going through: trying so hard, struggling so deeply, and constantly feeling like any step forward slides back.
And stillâyou kept climbing.
Back in May 2017, you shared your story with raw, painful honesty. I want to reflect itânot to retell the painâbut to honor the strength it took to survive it and speak it out loud.
You were born into confusion and separation. Your mother was too young, your father kept at a distance, and your early life was shaped by secrets. Your grandparents stepped in with both love and dysfunction, and you were surrounded by people who didnât always know how to show care. You were told stories that didnât match your reality, raised as someoneâs childâbut not fully recognized as someone in need.
You endured abuse, bullying, and rejection from places that were supposed to be safe. You wanted school to be your refuge, and for a while it was. But then came the heartbreak: being misunderstood, losing honor roll, losing cheerleading, losing the hope of falling in love. You quit school not because you stopped caring, but because everything started to feel too much. You cried when you shouldâve been celebrating. That moment says so much.
In your twenties, you reached for structure and creativityâearning your GED, studying Interior Design, dreaming of a home that could hold you safely. But life kept repeating itself: unstable homes, jobs cut short not because of laziness, but because your emotions couldnât stay hidden. People didnât understand that your tears were not weakness, but echoes of everything you were carrying.
Through it all, you kept longingâfor real connection, for love, for someone to choose you. You wanted to be seen, cherished, pursued. And when it didnât happen, you started to believe something must be wrong with you. That you were somehow ânot female,â not desirable, not enough. That feelingâof being forgotten before youâre even knownâis heartbreaking.
You talked openly about OCD, the rituals and fears that chase you. About trying everythingâtherapy, affirmations, diets, booksâand still feeling stuck. You shared the pain of friendships that faded, and jobs that ended with misunderstanding instead of compassion.
And stillâyou kept climbing.
Lisa, hereâs what I see in you:
* A deeply sensitive heart, the kind that always considers how others feelâeven more than your own fear of being hurt.
* Creative soul and artistic talent, passed down from your father, still living inside you even when neglected.
* Insight that cuts through the noiseâyou understand patterns, emotions, dynamics in ways that are remarkable.
* A romantic spirit that longs not for fantasy, but for something meaningful and real.
* Persistence. Youâve kept trying, even when the odds have felt unbearable.
* Dreams. Maybe they live in daydreams now, but they still liveâand that matters.
Youâve spent years climbing that muddy hill with no map, no companion, and no guide. But you kept going. Thatâs not just survival. Thatâs grit. Thatâs strength. Thatâs courage in motion.
Lisa, you are not the sum of your missed opportunities, your heartaches, or your struggles. You are a woman with deep emotional wisdom, real resilience, and a story that deserves to be seen with respect.
That part of you who dreams, writes, reflects, createsâthat part isnât gone. Sheâs waiting. And sheâs still with you.
Youâre tired. So deeply tired. But youâre not broken. Youâre not invisible. Youâre not unworthy.
You deserve rest. You deserve healing. You deserve loveânot someday, not conditionallyâbut because youâre you.
And if there ever comes a day when you want someone to walk beside youânot to fix the mud, but to steady you when you slipâI hope youâll reach out.
Because your story matters, Lisa. You matter.
đ¤ With care, Anita
anitaParticipantDear CinCin:
Youâre very welcomeâand thank you for your kind words.
I really hear what you’re saying about the difference between simply being invited and feeling truly included. Itâs not just about the plansâitâs about feeling wanted from the beginning, not added at the last minute. Thatâs a very real and important difference.
I admire how openly youâve spoken with your wife, even when the answers arenât clear. That kind of honesty takes courage. So does continuing to search for understanding instead of burying the pain.
You deserve to feel considered and includedânot just invited. I hope this helps affirm that your feelings truly matter.
If it feels okay to ask, I wonder if this experience stirred up something even olderâmaybe from earlier in life? Itâs so common for past hurts to echo through present moments, especially when they involve feeling unseen or left out. That kind of pain has deep roots, and if it ever feels right to explore it, Iâd be here with care.
đ¤ Anita
anitaParticipantCompletely dark now.
“Yeah.. I’ll keep you by my side… If I am alive and well, will you be there holding my hand?” (music piercing through the darkness)
it’s all about connecting, isn’t it- about being responded to, not being left alone.. as simple as that?
Is it all about: SEE me, HEAR me, let me know I am NOT ALONE, not all by myself.
Be there for me, be HERE for me.. (and I’ll be here for you).
Anita
anitaParticipantJournaling because I can, because I have this space here, in my own thread-
I say “because I can” as an act of defiance, an act of rebellion, simply because I lived without such space for too long.
Better say, I suffocated without space-for-me, for too long.
It’s amazing how a person can suffocate for so long and yet, still live to tell about it.
I have been taking my space here, in my many threads, and in real-life, DANCING outdoors to live music. And I’ve been taking my space in forming friendships and friendly acquaintances.
It makes my life Worth Living (see the title of this thread?)
Listening to music.. “it’s just a shot away, ah yea..” Rolling Stones.
It’s very important to me to not CHASE anyone for friendship or attention.
Give people the space they need.
Light outside, music too loud, can’t hear the birds I assume are there, outside my open windows.
.. “Angie.. With no Loving in our Souls..”
– There IS loving in my soul!
I am a good person after all, who could have known. Not me-
I thought that I was a bad person because my mother told me so, her clearly spelled out message: YOU ANITA – BAD.
It was a false message. I FINALLY KNOW it- what a relief, so many decades after that devastating, false message took hold.
.. What has hurt me so badly in my life has been REJECTION, active rejection and passive rejection= ignoring me, not answering me, not responding to my words/ my sentiment. Nothing. As if I didn’t exist (no space for me).
Well, I exist.
More about the rejection I experienced and how MUCH it hurt:
Well, it hurt, and no rationalizing it can dim the hurt.
it’s an emotional thing, this hurt.. no words.
“Here I am on the road again.. There I go turn the page… There I .. GO.” (Music, if you don’t recognize these words).
The 20-year-old who murdered two firefighters in Idaho today and injured a third, he wanted to be a firefighter.. was he reacting to rejection?
I don’t know, his motivation wasn’t determined yet. I don’t excused the violence and death, of course, but we can all make it a better world by responding to- not ignoring- people who so desperately need a .. response.
You see a child hurting, an adult who’s still hurting? Say something, say: I see you, see you hurting, tell me more..?
Say something, don’t let people drown in unresponsive, suffocating pools of nothingness.
Help people to not feel as terribly alone as I- and so many others- have felt for too long.
Anita
anitaParticipantDear CinCin:
Thank you for sharing something so personal. Itâs incredibly brave to speak up about this kind of hurt, especially when it echoes past wounds.
Youâre not off base at all. The feelings you’re experiencing make complete sense, especially given the patternâbeing excluded before, and now sensing something similar unfold again. Itâs not just about this one trip; itâs about wanting to be included from the start, not added as an afterthought.
Your wifeâs apology mattersâit shows that she cares and is open to hearing how this impacted you. And I hope the door is still open for you to express why it hurt, not just that it did. Because being invited is one thing⌠but feeling includedâfrom the beginningâis something else entirely.
As for why this keeps happening, it may be unintentional. People fall into old habits, make assumptions, or avoid discomfort without realizing the impact. But that doesnât make the hurt any less realâor any less worthy of being acknowledged.
Iâm so glad you spoke up. You deserve to feel like you belong. Not just as a +1, but as someone whose presence is genuinely wanted.
With warmth, Anita
June 30, 2025 at 6:00 pm in reply to: Should I Forget about him, or was he the one that got away? #447224
anitaParticipantDear Emma:
You are so very welcomeâand thank you for your appreciation and kind words. Reading your message truly made my day.
And thank you for continuing to share so openly. Your reflections are filled with honesty and self-awarenessâitâs a privilege to witness your process.
From what youâve described here and in earlier messages, it does sound like youâre noticing patterns that may align with Relationship OCD (ROCD). The persistent doubts about Philip, the urge to explain yourself repeatedly, the difficulty letting go after the breakup, and the mental loops of âwhat ifâ and âwhat does he think of me nowââthese are all experiences that many people with ROCD report.
Of course, only a qualified mental health professional can give a diagnosis. But your curiosity about ROCD is valid, and exploring it may help you understand yourself with more compassion. ROCD isnât about not loving someoneâitâs about the mind getting stuck in a loop of doubt, fear, and the need for certainty. And when thatâs layered on top of a history with OCD, it makes sense that relationships become a place where those patterns show up.
What I find especially powerful is how youâre beginning to notice the why behind your actions. You werenât disregarding Philipâs boundariesâyou were trying to be understood, to repair, to reconnect. Thatâs not failure. Thatâs a deeply human response shaped by fear, longing, and hope.
And your honesty about boundariesâhow scary they feel, and how youâre beginning to see their shapeâis such an important shift. Youâre not just learning about boundariesâyouâre starting to feel why they matter: in your body, in your relationships, in your healing. Thatâs not small. Thatâs foundational.
I love that youâre putting reminders on your wall. Thatâs you building a new kind of inner homeâone where your needs matter, your voice counts, and your growth is honored.
I wanted to share that Iâve experienced OCD too. I began struggling with it around age six and was diagnosed in my twenties. I no longer fit the diagnosis, so maybeâjust maybeâthereâs hope for you too.
And I have a sense that we may share something else: an invalidating parent or two. My mother used to counter every thought I had with condemnation. I was always âwrong,â always âmissing the point,â never quite right. No wonder that internal voiceâhers, reallyâkept on second-guessing me for so many years. Itâs still there sometimes, but softer now. Life is so much simpler and gentler without that constant inner doubter.
Iâm here, Emmaâalwaysâon this side of the ocean. And Iâm so very glad youâre here too.
With warmth and care, Anita
anitaParticipantDear Alessa:
Thank you for such a heartfelt messageâit truly means a lot. â¤ď¸ I really appreciate your thoughtfulness and the care woven through everything you shared.
I admire how youâve found ways to adapt to dyspraxiaâcycling sounds like a beautiful solution that brings both freedom and simplicity. Itâs such a clear example of creating space for yourself in the world, on your own terms.
And yes, I’m lucky to have someone kind helping me with online things. Iâll take your suggestion about clothing sites to heart and see what we can come up with.
What you said about my childhood struck a chord. Itâs painful when others turn awayâor worse, endorse harm by pretending it never happened. Your empathy in naming that really touched me.
You’re also spot on about this spaceâwe all arrive here carrying tenderness, defenses, and hopes. And that makes connection both fragile and precious. I’m so grateful we reconnected. What we have now feels honest, mutual, and earnedâand that matters deeply to me. â¤ď¸
Thank you for seeing me so clearly. Iâm truly glad weâre still hereâstill showing up for each other.
With warmth, Anita
anitaParticipantDear Gerard:
Thank you so much for your generous wordsâthey mean more than you know. Iâm truly touched by how thoughtfully you engage with these reflections. Your openness, your willingness to examine the past with both grace and honestyâit speaks of someone who continues to grow, even in the quieter chapters of life.
That moment you describedâseeing your daughter in pain and suddenly feeling the echo of what your old girlfriend may have feltâwas striking. I can only imagine how deeply that realization moved through you. And yet, as you beautifully said, itâs the daily reflection that gradually lets the full story come into view.
No one lives a neat life. We all carry moments where we tried, stumbled, misunderstood, or were simply swept up in forces larger than ourselves. What matters isnât tidinessâitâs the intention to do our best, to not harm where we can help, and to keep learning as we move.
And regarding your role as a providerâplease donât diminish what you gave. You stepped into a traditional model, one that so many families have relied on for stability and care. The fact that your wife could create that warm home for your children was made possible, in part, by your long hours and sacrifices. That doesnât mean your daughterâs feelings arenât validâbut it also doesnât mean you failed. Her memories can hold pain and love together. And so can yours.
What I see in you is a man who has reflected deeply, loved steadfastly, and taken responsibility with quiet dignity. Thatâs not something that fadesâit deepens, and Iâm honored to be part of your reflections.
Warmly, Anita
anitaParticipantDear Engineer:
Youâre very welcomeâand thank you for your kind words. What stands out most is the care youâre showing now, even decades later. That speaks volumes about your character and your capacity for reflection.
The mix of emotions you describe makes complete sense: your wish to be polite, the guilt thatâs lingered over time, your loyalty to your wife, and the pull of nostalgia. You were navigating a powerful crossroads between past and presentâand I think your choice not to approach her was, in its own quiet way, an act of respect for everyone involved.
The guilt you carry about how things ended is understandable. You were young, newly in love, and trying to protect something fragile and precious. But that doesn’t mean the silence that followed wasnât painful for her. It likely was. The fact that she reached out and never received a response probably left her with questions she had to answer alone. Thatâs hardâand your willingness to acknowledge it now is a kind of belated grace.
Reaching out after so many years, uninvited, might have reopened old wounds in both of you rather than providing resolutionâsomething it seems you intuitively grasped in that moment. Sometimes, an apology offered too late doesnât bring healing; it can stir up hurt the other person has long since laid to rest.
So while that door may have quietly closed long ago, your instinct not to disturb it was, in my view, a gentle and thoughtful one. That doesnât make the feelings less complexâbut you honored the life youâve built, and in a way, you honored hers, too.
Your reflections touch something universalâthe desire, as more of our lives stretch behind us, to understand the impact weâve had and leave no loose threads behind. Thatâs not weaknessâitâs a deep and very human kind of care.
Iâm truly glad you reached out.
Warmly, Anita
anitaParticipantDear Engineer101:
That sounds like such a complex momentâand I can understand why you’re feeling torn. Seeing someone from your past, especially someone you once cared about deeply, can stir up unexpected emotions.
You did what felt right in the moment. Thereâs no perfect script for something like that. Saying hello might have brought clarityâor it might have made things more complicated. And choosing not to approach her doesnât mean you didnât care. It mightâve been your way of honoring both your past and your present.
Even just noticing how that moment made you feelâhow a past connection can still echo after decadesâis powerful. Youâre not alone in that. A lot of people have felt something like this, even if they never say so out loud.
If youâre open to it, Iâd be curiousâwhat do you think you hoped to feel if you had said hello?
Anita
anitaParticipantDear Lisa:
It means a lot to hear from you. We’ve shared quite a path together since May 1, 2017âthrough so many meaningful conversations. That kind of history doesnât just disappear, and it certainly hasnât for me.
I feel the weight in your words, and Iâm so sorry things feel heavyâlike trying to climb a hill of mud, as you said. That image stays with me. And needing a vacation from your own life? I think many of us reach that place at times, even if we rarely speak it out loud. I admire your honesty for doing so.
You wrote, âno need to respond,â and I want to honor that you may not be expecting anything in return. But I also wondered if that was your way of saying, âplease donât feel burdened,â while still quietly reaching out. So I just wanted you to know: I see you. Youâre not a bother. Youâre not too much. You matter. And Iâm still here.
If and when you want to talk moreâor even just need a steady voice as you catch your breathâIâd be honored to walk alongside you again.
Warmly, Anita
June 30, 2025 at 8:21 am in reply to: Should I Forget about him, or was he the one that got away? #447203
anitaParticipantDear Emma:
Thank you for being so open again. I really admire how youâre facing something painful without turning away from yourself. It takes real strength to look at the past honestly and still try to treat yourself with care. You deserve your own patience and kindnessâespecially now.
I think itâs deeply human that you wanted to be understood by Philip. That visit came from a place of longing, not harmâand from the way youâve been reflecting on it, itâs clear youâre starting to see how deep pain can make it hard to notice how our actions might feel to someone else. Realizing that is a meaningful part of your growth.
What you said about boundaries really stayed with me: âI feel that me stating them feels unkindâbut I guess that is because I never had them.â That kind of awareness is powerful. When we grow up without having our boundaries respected, it makes sense that they can feel unfamiliarâeven scary.
And for someone like you, whoâs only now beginning to explore what boundaries look and feel like, it also makes sense that someone elseâs might not have been easy to see in the momentâespecially when emotions were running high. Thatâs not a failure of care. Itâs something you’re learning, and youâre learning with honesty and heart.
Thatâs why building boundaries is so important. Even in small ways, they help you feel more grounded, more connected to what’s right for you. Theyâre not about pushing people awayâtheyâre about protecting your energy and letting the right people come closer. Some small starting points might be taking time to think before answering, noticing what feels too much, or even pausing to ask yourself, âDo I want this, or do I feel pressured?â Each of these is you saying, âI matter, too.â
And Emma, I really see your growth. This kind of change doesnât happen all at onceâit unfolds in small, strong steps, often with pain still nearby. But itâs real. Youâre recognizing your patterns, noticing what feels calmer, and even speaking up with your parents. Thatâs not easy. And it counts.
If you want to share how they respond, Iâd be honored to listen. Iâm really grateful youâre letting me walk alongside you through this. Youâre not alone in it.
With warmth always, Anita
anitaParticipantJournaling, typing out whatever comes to mind:
Well, first thing that comes to mind is that.. nothing comes to mind.
… Listening to “Girls just want to have fun” by Cindy Laufer.
That wasn’t my girl-story.
Some girls have fun, not me.
I just wanted relief from the unrelenting pain of shame, guilt and excruciating self-doubt.
Typing whatever comes to mind is a kind of freedom that’s alien to me, alien to how I grew up- in.
Captivity, is what I shrunk into.
So, now, this post, this thread, this website is an opportunity for me to just be and become with confidence.
I feel more confident than ever.
Song: “Please allow me to introduce myself (you know the song?) Pleased to meet you”-
– Please let me introduce myself- Anita, that’s me. Alright.
“Oh baby, WHAT’S MY NAME??? Oh Yea, all right.. ”
Next song, “It’s just a shot a way.. ah yea.. (nothing like real music to EXPRESS)
“A shot away.
“A kiss away. Kiss away, just a kiss, a kiss away”
Lynyrd Skinner (my FAVORITE): “momma told me when I was young… some sunny day, ah, yea. I be your simple man.
“Oh, take your time.. oh.. oh baby, and don’t forget there’s someone up above.
“And be a simple kind of man… Simple man. Oh, don’t you do this, my son, if you can…
“Oh yes, I will
“Don’t you worry… oh Baby.. e a simple kind of man.
“Be a simple man
“Oh don’t you do this son, if you can”
POWERFUL.
I am, Anita- a SIMPLE woman.
“All I want to be is.. Simple.
The many hundreds, even thousands of people I communicated with since May 2015 here, in these forums, TEN years ago.. are mostly, simply gone, as in no longer here. So many, many men and women, gone from tiny buddha.
All that’s left is just a few- Allessa… Peter- reading these words, caring to read? Jana.. Tommy.. Oh, Arden from Turkey, EvFran from the far-east.. so many, many people here and then gone.
Back to old Israeli music.. it’s the same longing to BELONG, to be part of something BIGGER: “I feel that we can continue forever.. when you are touching me” (Boaz Sharabi)
And of course, Billie Jean- I danced to it privately a little while ago and publicly- last night.
No one dances better than him.
“She said I am The One!”
I am the one.. and so are you!
Anita
June 29, 2025 at 7:19 pm in reply to: Should I Forget about him, or was he the one that got away? #447183
anitaParticipantDear Emma:
Thank you for sharing all of thisâso honestly and with such raw clarity. I can feel the storm youâve been in: the ache for understanding, the shame that rushes in when things donât go the way you hoped, the part of you that longs for repair, and the other part that wonders if you’re just repeating old pain.
Please know this: the visit to Philip wasnât âcrazyââit was human. It was you trying, with everything you had, to be seen and understood. Yes, it may not have landed the way you hoped, and yes, his response was harsh and painfulâbut that doesnât erase the courage it took to show up with your story and your heart.
Naming the fearful-avoidant pattern isnât just intellectualâitâs part of healing. Youâre starting to recognize how your need for love and your fear of rejection have been dancing with each other. That kind of insight? Itâs powerful. And it will change how you move forward, even if it hurts right now.
As for your father⌠it makes sense that his need to direct or steer your choices would leave you feeling small or unseen. You deserve space. And youâre allowed to set boundaries without being unkind. If you decide to write that email, Iâd be happy to help you find words that are clear and compassionateâones that honor your voice while still respecting his humanity.
You didnât ruin your chance, Emma. Youâre reclaiming your voice. And even if some people canât receive it, that doesnât make it wrong to speak.
Iâm hereâno judgment, just care.
With warmth, Anita
anitaParticipantDear Steve:
Thank you for sharing thisâitâs rich, soulful, and deeply considered. I really appreciate how you hold space for suffering without minimizing it, and how you offer meaning without trying to impose it. The Rumi quote, along with your reflections on fellowship, impermanence, and transformation, brought a thoughtful pause in a noisy world. đ
Warmly, Anita
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