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anitaParticipantHow are you, Nichole?
anitaParticipantHow are you, S?
July 24, 2025 at 6:35 am in reply to: The phenomenon of “helping someone excessively can make them turn against you” #447895
anitaParticipantHow are you, Arden??
anitaParticipantHow are you, Clara?
July 24, 2025 at 6:29 am in reply to: growing up – becoming adul / procrastination – in connection to childhood trauma #447893
anitaParticipantHow are you, Robi?
anitaParticipantHow are you, Lisa?
anitaParticipantHow are you, Laven?
anitaParticipantI see so much good in people, such that I didn’t see before.. so much good I missed, good intention, goodwill..
There’s a lot to build on.. to unite, not divide; to forgive, not revenge.
9:11 pm, Wed night, July 23.. light outside. Birds chirping.. all is good.
Anita
anitaParticipantWhen revenge rules, unbearable destruction follows: physical, mental.. (mental IS physical)
Underneath it all is Love.. Love unreciprocated, love misinterpreted. Love punished.
Maybe we all want to be seen as LOVE.. but our love distorted, is the source of all evil.
Anita
anitaParticipantJournaling, stream of consciousness (Trigger Warning, as always):
TOXIC shame imprinted into my brain, killing my heart.. making it bleed.
Putting my life in a half-century hold.
Not here (alive), not there (dead).
Neurological, psychiatric afflictions to follow the not-here, nor-there existence:
Diagnosed OCD, Tourette’s, Major Depression.. and more diagnoses (I am embarrassed about naming them all)
All because I was.. (so my mother said, and society echoed her): You, Anita, are wrong to get hurt. Wrong to react negatively to being (mercilessly shamed and guilt-tripped).
Wrong to take her threats seriously.. her threats to kill herself and to (her word), to murder me… Why.. that’s nothing.. What’s wrong with you, Anita, to even remember these nothing-to-it words.
Wrong to perceive these as anything other than business-as-usual in the context of parenting.. why everyone..
Don’t know.. how should I have taken her threats..?
They (society as I have known it) says I overreacted.
And this very message, as I have known it.. How widespread is it in the middle east where I was born?
This abuse being normalized- is this.. isn’t it what’s behind the-never-ending revenge and violence in the middle east?
My mother with her big brown, dark.. dark brown eyes and the corners of her mouth always slightly turned up, as in a smile.
But.. no, it was not a smile.
I hear voices criticizing me.. that voice saying: Get Over it, Anita, SHAME on YOU!.
But then I hear the reasonable voice saying (Peter’s): Transform it.
And yet, in the inside of me is still, always, a little girl looking up to Ima (mother)- seeking her forgiveness (for not being what she needed me to be).. needing her to tell me that I am a good girl.
I will never hear those words from her.. that I was/ am a good little girl.
Oh, what a difference it would have made for me.. to hear those precious words: You Are a Good Little Girl, Anita!
Fast forward, I didn’t hear those words from anyone.. until I did, just a bit, here and there.. couldn’t take them in..
Couldn’t really hear.
All I could see was that little smile on my mother’s face.. that little joy seeing me hurt.
Her Pleasure.
Transform this kind of maternal pleasure at witnessing my pain.. A mother’s REVENGE (that middle east revenge).
To love someone who takes revenge for what I didn’t cause.. not my doing-
The story of middle east ongoing revenge.
Anita
anitaParticipantDear Ada:
In this reply, Iâll try to separate objective reality from emotional reality as clearly as I can.
Objective reality:
* Sam and Sarah are no longer âbest friends.â Their contact now is limited to exchanging a few greetings here and there:
âHe talks to her significantly less… Over several years… Sam has been less and less involved in Sarahâs life to the point where they only exchange a few greetings here and there now. I guess ‘best friend’ isnât a fair label anymore.â
* Sam hasnât met with Sarah in person for about four yearsâever since shortly after the two of you began dating:
âShortly after we started dating, we took advantage of the pandemic and remote work, and decided on a bit of a nomadic lifestyle, living in many cities across the US for a few years.â
* A few months ago, after moving back to your home city, Sam suggested that you meet Sarahâthis would be your first time meeting her, and his first in about four years:
âNow that we have moved back in the area, heâs talking about meeting up with her again… A few months ago, we moved back to our home city, and recently he said he wanted me to meet Sarah.â
Emotional reality:
âMy boyfriendâs relationship with his female best friend… I canât seem to accept this relationship… the emotional intimacy of it is really eating away at me….â
And yet, if their current contact is minimalâjust âa few greetings here and thereââwhat emotional intimacy actually exists now?
In my earlier replies, I may have confused the emotional reality youâre experiencing with the objective reality youâve described. It seems whatâs causing you distress isnât whatâs happening now, but what could happen if past emotional intimacy resumes. Perhaps the deeper fear is that if that connection rekindles, heâll choose her over you.
Maybe the ache pulsing beneath it all is the lingering imprint of a childhood woundâ that of being overlooked perhaps, or being quietly cast aside, or un-chosen in favor of someone so unlike you..?
With care, Anita
anitaParticipant10:56 pm, Tuesday night, completely dark.
listening to YouTube music.
Oh, and by the way, after all the thunder last night, there were only a few drops of rain. Nothing really.
10:59 pm.
11:00
Had a delicious taco tonight.
Had some socializing.
I L.O.V.E socializing.. even when it’s almost boring..
It’s the CONNECTING-
That human accessibility, possibility.
Not being Alone.
Just that, not being alone.
Can’t have ENOUGH of .. not being Alone and Lonely.
I keep seeing little boys and girls in fifty-s- sixty-s year- old boys and girls.
I talked to a six year old boy this evening, one who will turn 61 in only a few hours. At first, he looked like an older man, but as I got closer, he looked younger and younger.
Actually, this man will turn to be 61 in a few hours, your age, Peter.
Alessa.. You are such a young woman.. in your early 30s..? Just a pup, as one of my friends would say. Just a Pup..
11:14 pm.
Anita
anitaParticipant* I neglected part of my reply in the previous submission:
Dear Ada:
âPart of my resentment towards Sam stems from not feeling like he truly values who I am â reserved, conservative, introspective.â-
Ada, your honesty here is powerful. I wonder if the ache you describe might be less about Sam not valuing those parts of you, and more about you not fully valuing them yourself. When we stand firm in our own quiet strengthsâour thoughtfulness, our depth, our sensitivityâthe need to be seen and affirmed by another softens. It doesnât vanish, but it stops feeling like proof of worth.
Growth doesnât mean becoming like Sarah, of course. Growth might mean celebrating the elegance of your own inner rhythm. And maybe, gently, allowing it to take up more space in your relationshipânot with loudness, but with certainty.
You donât need to abandon who you are to be loved well. You only need to stand where you are and decide that itâs enough.
From what youâve shared, I sense that Sam does value youâhe listens, respects your emotions, shares common values, and wants to make the relationship work. But the inner conflict seems to come from you not yet fully embracing your own temperament and identity. You said, âpart of me feels insecure about not having the opposite qualities,â and thatâs such an honest reflection. But being reserved, conservative, introspectiveâthose arenât deficits. Theyâre gifts.
Of course, that doesnât mean Samâs behavior hasnât contributed to the discomfortâitâs possible that both are playing a role. But I wonder if anchoring more deeply in your own self-worth might ease some of the ache around being seen.
đ¤ Anita
anitaParticipantDear Ada:
âPart of my resentment towards Sam stems from not feeling like he truly values who I am â reserved, conservative, introspective.â-
Ada, your honesty here is powerful. I wonder if the ache you describe might be less about Sam not valuing those parts of you, and more about you not fully valuing them yourself. When we stand firm in our own quiet strengthsâour thoughtfulness, our depth, our sensitivityâthe need to be seen and affirmed by another softens. It doesnât vanish, but it stops feeling like proof of worth.
Growth doesnât mean becoming like Sarah, of course. Growth might mean celebrating the elegance of your own inner rhythm. And maybe, gently, allowing it to take up more space in your relationshipânot with loudness, but with certainty.
You donât need to abandon who you are to be loved well. You only need to stand where you are and decide that itâs enough.
Of course, that doesnât mean Samâs behavior hasnât contributed to the discomfortâitâs possible that both are playing a role. But I wonder if anchoring more deeply in your own self-worth might ease some of the ache around being seen.
đ¤ Anita
anitaParticipantHi Alessa đâ¤ď¸
Thank you so much for your kind words. Iâm really glad the conversation has been meaningful for youâand your insights as both a parent and a seeker add such depth to the thread. Iâm grateful for how you show up here.
And absolutelyâif @Tommy feels drawn to this topic, he would be more than welcome to join in. His voice would be a valuable addition to whatâs unfolding here.
With warmth and appreciation, Anita đ¤đ¤
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