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anitaParticipantTo Anonymous, with deep respect:
You wrote something extraordinary. Not just a story, but a reckoning. And I want to reflect something back to youâsomething I think you already know, but may have never heard aloud:
âIn my oldest memories, I donât ever see my face.â-
That line holds everything. Itâs not just poeticâitâs diagnostic. You were erased before you could even form a sense of self. Your motherâs pain filled the room, the house, the air. Her suffering was so loud, so constant, so consuming, that there was no space left for you to exist as a child. You didnât get to be seenâyou had to become useful. You didnât get to be heldâyou had to become strong. You didnât get to be youâyou had to become âenough.â
And so you became the boy. The protector. The achiever. The one who would prove that daughters are not a burden. You did it brilliantly. But at the cost of your own becoming.
You didnât just lose sight of your futureâyou were never given permission to imagine one. You were too busy holding up the sky for everyone else.
And now, when the sky no longer needs holding, youâre left with the question: Where am I?
You are here. You are not erased. You are not a role. You are not a function. You are a person. A woman. A child who deserved to be seen. A soul who deserves space.
If you ever return to this thread, know that it is yours. You donât have to perform strength. You donât have to explain. You donât have to be âenough.â You already are.
This space is for you. To be visible. To be whole. To be youâface and all.
đ«¶đ€Anita
August 21, 2025 at 8:17 am in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #448845
anitaParticipantDear Dafne:
I agree with your reflectionsâand with your conclusion: “he chose the road of deception, and this story came to an end.”
When you write, “I think he brought that up because… My guess is… perhaps what he was really hoping for… Maybe he realised that…”â
itâs clear how much emotional labor youâve done to make sense of his choices. But the kind of man you need in your life is one whoâs transparent. Someone whoâs clear and direct, so youâre not left guessing at the whys. So there arenât perhapses and maybesâjust truth, freely offered.
You are very welcome, Dafne. I too hope that sharing and empathizing with each other brings us both more peace and harmony in our lives.
đ đ€ Anita
anitaParticipantDear Debbie:
Somehow I missed your Aug 16 post and became aware of it only this morning.
“Vulnerability is not my strong suit.”- you did an excellent job being vulnerable in this post!
Your honesty is not just vulnerableâitâs powerful. You named truths that many carry in silence: the exhaustion of performing appropriateness, the ache of feeling peripheral in othersâ lives, the fear that authenticity might cost connection. That kind of clarity doesnât come easy, and it doesnât come without scars.
Youâve already done something extraordinary: you stopped abandoning yourself. That 185 lb. weight loss isnât just physicalâitâs symbolic of shedding what wasnât yours to carry. And while you say the âsame old defective meâ remains, I see someone whoâs fiercely self-aware, whoâs fought to reclaim her voice, and whoâs asking the kind of questions that only the bravest dare ask.
Youâre not defective. Youâre someone who adapted to survive in a world that didnât make space for your truth. The judgment, anger, and fear you describeâtheyâre not your essence. Theyâre armor. And even if some of it still feels fused to your skin, youâre already peeling it back with every word you write.
“I have constantly felt not rightâŠflawedâŠdefective and my lifeâs journey has been to fix myself.”- Same here.
“I thought everyone else mattered more than I did.”- Same here, too.
“However, inside is the same old defective me. I am negative, catty, judgmental, angry and I navigate the world fearing others will find out. I make sure to respond and behave appropriately… I fear if I behaved as my authentic self I would be hustled off to a mental health institute at worst or find myself alone at best. I think I have to be perfect which of course I fail at.”-
I used to be negative, judgmental, angry, and ashamedâfeeling painfully defective, guilty, and afraid. Again and again, I tried to be perfect. And again and again, I failed. But Iâve done a lot of healing recentlyâpeeling off the layers of invalid shame and guilt, naming truths without apology, daring to be seen and heard just as I am. Itâs a good feeling.
I no longer feel defective, and I no longer chase perfection. I just try to be the best person I can be: do no harm, and help where I can.
“I often wonder if I would be friends with myself… I just want to be meâŠwhoever that is.”- Maybe you and I can be friendsâright here, on your thread. And maybe both of us can simply be here, just as we are⊠whoever that is.
đ€ Anita
August 21, 2025 at 6:49 am in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #448838
anitaParticipantDear Dafne:
“So he did not mind paying for dates with me as long as he felt appreciated.”- Oh, so by “Now he expects reciprocation with everything he does.” (Dec 29)âhe didnât mean financial reciprocation, but just appreciation, is what you’re saying.
“But maybe over time, he began to feel that this wasnât enough for him. Could it be?”- Could be.
“They failed us Anita, they failed us big time. Whether it was conscious or unconscious, it caused the same kind of pain and had lifelong consequences for us. They may be sorry now, or not. But itâs too late. Even if we forgive them, even if we forget, nothing will change, and nothing will ever fill that void inside us. Every time we see happy families, every time we rejoice for them, something deep down will never be made whole. A piece of us was taken, and no matter how much love we find, that missing piece will never return. It is an absence we carry, a silence that echoes through our lives, reminding us of what should have been, but never was.
“Letâs find the strength to hold onto that and take up our space. Letâs not let our emotions take control anymore, failing us every time a new person comes to take another piece away.”
I copied the above simply because itâs beautifully expressed. It doesnât require analysis or dissection. This is Dafne expressing herself, taking up spaceâwell done, Dafne.
And thank you, Dafne- for your words and for being here.
Warmth and gratitude back to you.
âïžđ€ Anita
anitaParticipantDear Clara (or would you prefer Chau?):
Your clarity is palpable, and so is your strength. The way youâre able to name the undercurrentsâthose quiet, persistent beliefs that tug at youâis a sign of deep emotional awareness. Youâre not bypassing the complexity; youâre sitting with it, breathing through it, and letting it inform rather than control you. Thatâs powerful.
Iâm really moved by your reflection on the quote: âIâm learning to trust that someone wanting more than I can give doesnât mean Iâm not enough.â Youâve internalized it in such a grounded way, especially in how you challenged the impulse to equate love with wealth or performance. That moment of âthis doesnât even align with my valuesâ is the voice of your inner compass reasserting itself, even in the face of old conditioning.
Your insight about disconnection is so honest. The longing to revisit the nice momentsâto soften the edges of realityâis deeply human. But the fact that you can hold that longing while still recognizing the mismatch speaks volumes. Youâre not pretending the connection was all bad, nor are you letting the good moments erase the harm. Thatâs emotional integrity.
And yes, that gut feelingâthat if she reached out, you might be pulled back inâisnât weakness. Itâs the echo of a bond that once felt meaningful. But youâre not in denial about it. Youâre naming it, watching it, and preparing yourself. Thatâs how you stay free.
If it helps, you might try a mantra like: âI honor the tenderness without surrendering my truth.â or âI can remember the sweetness without forgetting the cost.â
With care, Anita
anitaParticipantI will read and reply tonight, Clara (it’s early afternoon here). Take care!
Anita
August 20, 2025 at 11:58 am in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #448801
anitaParticipantDear Dafne:
You wrote today, Aug 20, 2025: “There is only one thing I still donât understand. He never asked me for money and never mentioned that I should pay for the house. He seemed to be happy in the role of a traditional provider.”
On Dec 29, 2024, the first time you shared about him, you wrote:
“He told me that he was taken advantage of in his past and doesnât want it to happen again. Now he expects reciprocation with everything he does.”
He told you right from the beginning that he expects financial reciprocation âwith everything he does.â Thatâs not him being âhappy in the role of a traditional provider.â
Continued, Dec 29: “I replied that… I donât want a 50/50 style.”
Today, you shared: “He never asked me for money”- Iâm guessing that he didnât ask you for money because you told him last year that you donât want a 50/50 styleâand because both you and your mother expressed (valid) distrust in his financial and business talk due to his lack of transparency.
You asked: “Do you think he planned to wait till we move in together and then start his demands?”- Yes, I think so. His lack of transparency itself is the big red flag. Itâs not something you causedâitâs the way he is.
“The occasion on the motorway revealed his true colors… he did not call or check in to ask about us, not even knowing if Iâm alive or not… I decided to never contact him again.”- A wise decision, Dafne.
“They always ask what Iâm looking for at this stage of my life, but I donât know what the best answer is. What is your opinion on that, Anita?… Would you say something else?”-
If I were in your place, Dafne, I would say that Iâm looking for a relationship of transparency and integrityâto say what we mean, to mean what we say, and to follow our words with actions that match. And when we make mistakes (occasionally, not as part of a pattern of deception)âto talk about it honestly and respectfully.
You asked today: “How can I stop feeling guilty? What helped you, Anita, when you decided to break out of that prison cell with your mother?”-
Iâll start my answer by quoting what you shared and asked on March 19, 2024: âI was quite sensitive and shy as a small girl so there was no way for me to express myself freely. I had to be quiet and hide in my room to avoid the conflict & the constant fights. Maybe my personality as a child contributed to the fact that I canât cope with life or romantic relationships in my adult life?â-
I was like you, Dafne. I grew upâor as I prefer to say, grew-inâwith no way to express myself freely either. I too had to be quiet. Only I didnât have a room to hide in. The conflicts with my mother, and her conflicts with others, dominated my space. I had no space of my own, except for daydreaming when she wasnât home. As a result, I instinctively tried to disappearâerasing my own needs and feelings so thoroughly that I no longer knew what I needed, wanted, or felt. Or better said: I didnât trust my feelings to reflect reality. And even worse, I felt guilty for hurting my motherâbecause she guilt-tripped me mercilessly and repeatedly.
How did I break out of the prison cell of self-alienationâwhere I didnât trust my feelings, didnât know what I needed or wanted, and carried invalid guilt?
By taking up space. By expressing myself. By holding my mother accountable for the wrongs she committed against me. By releasing the shame and guilt the child within me held. By freeing her.
And Dafne, you are already doing this. Every time you name what didnât feel right, every time you question the story you were handed, every time you choose not to contact someone who showed you disregardâyou are taking up space. You are protecting the child within you. You are not failing to cope; you are learning to live in a way that honors your truth. That is not weakness. That is healing.
Warmly, Anita
anitaParticipantDear Clara:
Your reflection carries a lot of graceâboth toward her and toward yourself. I can feel the tenderness in how you describe her energy, and also the quiet ache of realizing that what you hoped for may not align with what sheâs seeking. That kind of emotional recalibration is no small thing.
Youâre already doing something powerful: naming the dissonance without vilifying her, and acknowledging your own emotional impact without collapsing into self-blame. Thatâs the kind of clarity that boundary work is built on.
When I talk about âcrafting boundary phrases,â here are some boundary phrases you might explore or adapt:
* âI care about you, and I also need to be honest about what I can sustainably offer in a relationship.â
* âItâs okay that we want different things. Iâm not here to convince or competeâIâm here to honor whatâs true for me.â
* âIâm learning to trust that someone wanting more than I can give doesnât mean Iâm not enough.â
* âIâm stepping back not because I donât care, but because I doâand I need space to recalibrate.â
These arenât scripts, just starting points. The most powerful boundary phrases come from your own voice, shaped by your values and emotional clarity.
If youâd like, maybe I can help you shape one that feels more personalâsomething you could use in conversation, writing, or even just as a grounding mantra when doubt creeps in.
Youâre already navigating this with a lot of emotional intelligence. The boundary work is just the next layer of self-loyalty.
Warmly, Anita
anitaParticipantDear Clara:
Thank you for sharing all of this. Itâs not long-windedâitâs honest, layered, and deeply human. You named something so important: the difficulty of setting boundaries with someone who knows how to pull on your soft spots. Thatâs not weaknessâitâs a sign of your capacity for care. But care without reciprocity becomes a trap. And you saw that clearly.
Her patternâof seduction, emotional urgency, financial expectation, and then withdrawalâwasnât just confusing. It was destabilizing. You were generous with your time, your attention, even your resources. And when you needed clarity, she gave you contradiction.
Youâre not overreacting. Youâre responding to a dynamic that blurred intimacy with manipulation. And your decision to step back, even while feeling lingering attachment, is a sign of strength.
You asked: âWould I fall back again?â- Hereâs what I see: You already didnât. You saw the pattern. You named it. You said no. Thatâs not falling back. Thatâs rising.
If she returnsâand youâre right, she likely willâyou donât owe her access. You donât owe her softness. You donât owe her friendship just because she enjoys talking to you.
You owe yourself peace. You owe yourself clarity. You owe yourself the kind of connection that doesnât require you to second-guess your worth.
Iâm proud of you for seeing it so clearly. And Iâm here if you need help crafting a boundary phrase, a mantra, or even just a reminder that youâre not alone in this.
With care, Anita
anitaParticipantBondi, what youâve shared is not just heartbreakingâitâs a masterclass in how families protect dysfunction by punishing the one who names it. You told the truth, and instead of being met with care, you were met with condemnation. Thatâs not just neglect. Thatâs reversal.
You said: âA few years ago what that relative did resurfaced. All because I referred to him for what he was; an abuser.â- That momentânaming the truthâis where the punishment began. Not for the abuser, but for you.
You were met with: âEveryone rallied around them because they were upset. No one asked my side. No one asked how I was.â, âTold how I should be over it by now. Told I shouldâve brought it up at the time. Told I was making it up and I was crazy.â, âEven told by another family member that it couldnât have happened because they never felt in danger around the abuser.â-
This is textbook emotional reversal. You became the threatânot because you harmed anyone, but because you disrupted the comfort of denial. Your family rewarded silence, compliance, and emotional decorum. And when you refused to perform those things, they punished you with isolation, gaslighting, and contempt.
You said: âMy family have ostracised me. They look at me with so much hatred. Like they would rather I didnât exist.â- Thatâs not about who you are. Thatâs about what you represent: truth in a system built on denial.
Even the so-called âsupportâ from your parents is conditional: âThey say they support me and they believe me but itâs the elephant in the room. If I ever bring it up I get shut down like itâs a forbidden topic.â- Thatâs not support. Thatâs performance. And it reinforces the same message: âWeâll tolerate your pain as long as you donât speak it.â
You are not the problem, Bondi. You are the proof that the problem exists. And thatâs why they treat you like a threat.
Your ability to name harm, even when it costs you everything, is not a flaw. Itâs a strength. Itâs the reason youâre still here. And itâs the reason youâre not alone.
I would truly welcome hearing more of your truth. Your voice and your emotions will not be punished in communication with meâ they will be honored.
With care, Anita
anitaParticipantDear Laven:
You donât need to be âbetterâ to be worthy. You donât need to post less, feel less, or package your pain more neatly.
Your repetition is not a flawâitâs a form of processing. Your rawness is not a burdenâitâs a truth that deserves space. Your presence here is not conditionalâitâs valid.
You are not stuck. You are surviving. You are not attention-seeking. You are voice-reclaiming. You are not too much. You are finally enough to name what was never named.
Keep posting. Keep feeling. Keep being exactly where you are. Some of us see you. Some of us are grateful you havenât disappeared to make others more comfortable.
With care, Anita
August 18, 2025 at 9:27 am in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #448718
anitaParticipantDear Dafne:
“When we met by chance, I asked him why he had not contacted me sooner, and he said that it was because he felt that he could not give me what I deserved.”- When you got lost driving and called him for help, you deserved help. Soâhe couldnât give you what you deserved? Or wouldnât?
Action (or lack of it) speaks louder than words.
“His friends said that he is a good man and cares about me.”- His friends uttered words. How much effort does it take to say something supportive?
And what do they mean by âa good manâ? Definitions vary. Every bad man is good in some contextâHitler, for example, was reportedly good to his dog.
“Is it possible that all three friends are wrong about him? Or were they just in it together?”- I doubt they were deeply contemplating his character. More likely, they said what was convenientâwhat aligned with loyalty to their friend.
“Maybe his pride did not let him be entirely honest?”- What if you shift focus from his motives to the impact of his behavior on you? Did his dishonesty hurt you?
“But all of this covered my judgment and made me give him another chance.”- I understand. It took me time and work to trust my own evaluations of people.
“The occasion on the motorway revealed his true colors.”- Yesâand the fact that he didnât check on you afterward shows he didnât regret failing you when you needed help. He didnât call to sincerely apologize or make amends.
“He pretended to be offended and made me feel guilty instead.”- Your tendency to feel guilty can be weaponized by others. Thatâs not your faultâbut itâs something to protect.
“But how do we protect ourselves from men like him in the future? And what are the early signs that he will be the one using the emotional reverse tactic? He was kind, progressive, always on time, and quite caring at the beginning.”- Words are easy. Watch what he doesâand what he doesnât do. In dating or business, people often wear a social mask. The early kindness may be part of the performance.
“How is it possible to change that much?”- He didnât change. He removed the mask.
“But what if they are not so expressive verbally?”- Then pay attention to their actions.
“It is still hard to believe that one unpredictable moment in life like this can change everything and cast a shadow on a promising story.”- I wasnât sure what âpromising storyâ you meant hereâcould you clarify?
About your neighbor: you described someone dangerous, who intentionally harms others and even breaks the law. Yet she âcanât be evicted,â and the police âcanât do much.â
“Now it feels like Iâm taking on another emotional labor just to keep my neighbor quiet, trying not to provoke her, staying completely quiet, and it feels like walking on nails, where I live in extreme discomfort and walk on eggshells, avoiding stirring things up. Can you see that pattern, Anita? Or maybe society has changed so badly in those modern times, and it has not that much to do with our confidence, self-worth, or childhood trauma?”- Even with high confidence and no trauma, your neighborâs behavior would still be disturbing. Without legal support or eviction, moving out may be the only real solution.
The emotional labor you describedâstaying quiet, walking on eggshells that feel like nails, self-monitoring to avoid her attacksâreminds me of living with my mother. It felt like a prison cell. Not free to be or become. Always afraid. Always censoring myself.
Youâre not imagining the harm, Dafne. Youâre seeing it clearly. And your clarity is a strengthânot a burden. You donât need to decode his motives or her cruelty. You only need to honor what their actions have shown you. Thatâs how we protect ourselvesânot by being perfect, but by refusing to abandon our own truth.
With care, Anita
August 17, 2025 at 7:59 pm in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #448710
anitaParticipantDearest Dafne: I will read and reply Mon morning (it’s Sun evening here)
đ€ Anita
August 17, 2025 at 9:15 am in reply to: Understanding someone who's recently divorced and not ready #448696
anitaParticipantDear Dafne: You are very welcome! Please take all the time you need to reply, be it hours or days. And you are right, replying separately will be easier for me to read and have more clarity.
đ€ Anita
August 16, 2025 at 10:45 pm in reply to: Gf’s Dad passing was the final straw into ending our long distance relationship #448683
anitaParticipantThe Serenity Prayer: God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; the courage to change the things I can.. And the wisdom to know the difference.
Anita
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