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  • in reply to: Someone pls help me i’m so worried #425619
    anita
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    Dear Dave:

    You are welcome.

    “Tbh i have asked a doctor about this issue, and that doctor told me that regarding my situation, i’m safe….May i know ur opinion based on the evidence u found, regarding my situation on the x-ray? Is it safe in ur opinion?”-

    – a medical doctor told you that you are safe regarding the X-Ray situation, and yet, you are asking me (a person who is not a medical doctor and who never met you for a medical examination, a person who is not an X-Ray technician or any other type of medical professional) if the doctor who told you that you are safe is correct or not…

    I recommend again that you see a mental health professional regarding your anxiety, and again, I wish you well.

    anita

    in reply to: Someone pls help me i’m so worried #425617
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Dave:

    You are definitely very anxious about having had the X-rays you had. I recommend that (1) you take your questions regarding the safety of the X-rays you had done to a medical professional who has expertise in the matter of X-rays, and (2) that you take the anxiety portion that you suffer from to a mental health professional.

    I hope that you will feel better very soon!

    anita

    in reply to: Extremely painful breakup and confusion #425616
    anita
    Participant

    * I neglected to edit out the quote “I feel I deserve this because everyone in my life has expressed to me how difficult I can be” before submitting the post above.

    in reply to: Extremely painful breakup and confusion #425615
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Stacy:

    You are welcome and thank you for your empathy and for being here!

    “a personal betrayal that he chose me because I was special (he voiced why I meant so much to him and why I was different than other girls he had dated frequently) to then dump me like I was nothing to him all along. And to admit to ‘wandering eyes’ for other girls. Ugh.“-

    – You fell from the heavenly heights of finally being special/ chosen over other girls=>  back to the bottomless abyss of being un-special/ other girls chosen over you.

    The feelings of belonging and genuine adoration for the real me is something I have never had before“-  the feeling of belonging and genuinely adored was heavenly. And you felt it for the first time with this one guy.

    I’ve never been this heartbroken before“- you never experienced this heartbreak before because you never experienced (consistent) belonging and adoration before.

    I worry that I’m too thick in grief to ‘hear’ and listen to a counselor. I’m still stuck in denial and wishing for him to give me another chance“- you are stuck waiting for him to choose you again, to give you back the feeling of being special and chosen over other girls.

    “I genuinely believe that my accusatory pressure over time, mixed with him still being in love with his ex made him panic and run. I beat myself up about this constantly“- stuck waiting for him and stuck beating yourself up.

    Everyone in my life has expressed to me how difficult I can be“- difficult as a result of having been treated un-special, un-chosen and un-adored for too long. Who wouldn’t be difficult with this kind of experience…?

    I feel I deserve this because everyone in my life has expressed to me how difficult I can be

    “I thought that working these two jobs and just trying to focus on myself that way would help, but no. I thought that having some days off finally for Thanksgiving for me to rest would help, but no. I thought that getting a new hairstyle would help, no”-

    – it doesn’t help to focus on .. feeling un-special, un-chosen, etc., nor can you rest in these feelings.. nor can a new hairstyle bring about a change in core beliefs and attitudes.

    “I do feel like I’m boiling over with this crazy need to express this grief in some way, though. I am an artistic and emotional person but I have no way to channel it. Drawing and painting just frustrates me, so does poetry. I can feel that I NEED to express/channel this some way, but I also feel exhausted and have no drive.”-

    – if it’s not drawing or painting or poetry.. how about a story, that’s a form of literature you didn’t mention. You can type a story, your story- of any length- right here on your thread..?

    anita

    in reply to: Someone pls help me i’m so worried #425607
    anita
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    Dear Dave:

    1) About Radiation and X-Rays (I will be adding the boldface feature to the following quotes):

    Sources of radiation are all around us all the time. Some are natural and some are man-made… Background Radiation is present on Earth at all times. The majority of background radiation occurs naturally… Naturally occurring radioactive minerals in the ground, soil, and water produce background radiation. The human body even contains some of these naturally-occurring radioactive minerals. Cosmic radiation from space also contributes to the background radiation around us… All of us are exposed to radiation every day, from natural sources such as minerals in the ground, and man-made sources such as medical x-rays” (EPA. gov/radiation sources).

    “Any overexposure to radiation can lead to devastating effects. However, the amount of radiation in a typical x-ray is too low to cause issues… Imaging professionals that work in medical facilities and practices follow safety guidelines to ensure that patient’s never get exposed to more radiation than necessary. The staff provides special protective gear to limit the radiation that enters patients from an x-ray machine…

    “Doses of radiation are measured in units called millirems (mrem) in the U.S. and millisieverts (mSv) internationally. People experience around three mSv of radiation each year naturally. In comparison, the level of radiation generated from a chest x-ray is only 0.1 mSv, similar to 10 days of normal walking around…  (glmi. com).

    2) About Radiophobia (which includes X-ray phobia):

    “Radiophobia refers only to a display of anxiety disproportionate to the actual quantity of radiation one is exposed to. In many cases, radiation exposure values are equal to or not much higher than  what individuals are naturally exposed to every day from background radiation.  For instance, some health patients refuse X-rays because they believe the radiation will harm them. Notable examples include Steve Jobs and Bob Marley, both of whom died after refusting radiation treatment for their cancer. While a healthy respect for the hazards of radiation is desirable, it’s crucial to strike a balance between caution and undue fear… Remember, understanding the actual risks associated with radiation exposure is essential to managing any fear or anxiety related to it” (dove med. com)

    Radiophobia Treatments… There are numerous different yoga poses that can substantially benefit someone who is suffering from radiophobia… Yoga can be thought of as meditation in motion. It can help to relieve some of the anxiety associated with radiophobia due to the mere fact that by engaging in yoga, your attention will be redirectedCognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) for Radiophobia…Reducing Caffeine for Radiophobia Exercise for Radiophobia: … such as swimming, biking, skiing, walking, and jogging…  Mindfulness has the potential to significantly help those suffering from radiophobia due to how it will help one to distract themselves from their fear by refocusing their attention onto something else… redirecting one’s attention to the various sensations felt when breathing can actually help to reduce the amount of mental anguish experienced during such an influx of anxiety… Besides focusing on your breathing, you can also focus on the sounds around you, the way your skin feels as you touch certain objects, the way foods taste, as well as the way certain aromas smell. Essentially, honing into your 5 senses can significantly help you to reduce some of the anxiety that is associated with radiophobia. Also, remember that it will take a lot of practice to become an adept meditator. So, practice is key…” (psych times. com).

    What do you think and feel, Dave, about these quotes?

    anita

     

     

    in reply to: Telling the difference between gut and fear in relationships #425601
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Seaturtle:

    Thank you for appreciating my (failed) effort to incorporate an emoji as meaningful nonetheless.. and you are welcome!

    Again, a reminder of how I normally (and here, today) read and reply: I read, quote and reply to one part of your post before reading what comes next.

    I read your whole post first, and feel like we are on the right track, I think I have entered a new stage of facing this trauma and projection of it onto N“- excellent!

    The beginning of this year started with me blaming N for my feelings… Taking responsibility is my new stage“- more excellent and so very well worded, I am impressed!

    The illusion of the projection of F into N is very convincing and often hard to argue, I am suspicious and find little things that points an arrow/projects something F did into N. It is hard for  me to tell if it is a projection or if he is actually behaving similar to my father“-

    – Problem is that N is actually behaving similar to your father at times: every person, and particularly every man actually behaves similar to your father in many.. male-human ways. Add to it that both N and F speak the same language, the words they use are the same English words,  But in certain ways (words and behaviors), N does not behave similar to F.

    How am I supposed to truly know the difference between manipulation/dishonesty and truth?“- identify in detail F’s dishonesty.

    Picture working in the garden. It being Fall, leaves are everywhere. All you see is leaves. You can’t see the ground. You then rake the leaves and place them in one pile. Now you see a pile of leaves in one area, and the ground everywhere else.  F’s dishonesty is like the leaves covering everywhere. Identifying them (seeing exactly what he did t you) is like gathering his behaviors in one pile so that you can see the ground (N’s/ others’ behaviors).

    “I had to take full responsibility for feeling transactional (a new word that has popped up in the vocabulary about my dad and very accurate) and abandoned, this feeling of taking responsibility has a very specific feeling to it. It is humbling, it makes me feel weak“-

    – Your father is responsible for causing you to feel transactional in the relationship with him because of the words, expressions and behaviors.  I want to take time out and quote from a website I just came across (goal cast. com) regarding Transactional Relationships:

    “Transactional relationships are built on the idea of reciprocation. Both people in the relationship are focused on what they are getting out of it and they expect the other person to hold up their end of the bargain… In family relationships, transactional elements can come into play, too. Typically you’d see this between parents and children when parents bring up the idea of how much they’ve done for their kids and voice an expectation of what they believe they should receive in return. (Love, affection, respect, more phone calls or visits and so on.)… While typically we don’t want our relationships with people we know and love to be transactional, there may be times when transactional dealings with loved ones are a necessary evil. For instance, when new parents are in the throes of caring for an infant… one person cares for the baby for two hours while the other person takes a nap. Or one person takes on kitchen chores while the other handles laundry. Dividing up household and caregiving labor this way can help couples make it through this challenging time. The Bottom Line on Transactional Relationships: What it all comes down to in transactional relationships is intention. In the new parents scenario, for example, both people need to be clear that the intention for having a temporarily transactional relationship is to help each other out and be able to attend to their needs, and their baby’s needs. In the workplace, colleagues might intentionally team up to help each other out with favors so that they can both benefit and reach their career goals. When these transactional-seeming relationships are collaborative instead of competitive, and mutually beneficial instead of self-serving, they cease to be purely result-oriented and toxic. As partners, colleagues and loved ones work together in a healthier way they can achieve common goals and strengthen their bond, rather than strain their relationship.”-

    – Between your father and you (as it was between my mother and me), the transactional element was not between equals, as in between adult work colleagues, or between two adult parents. It started as and was between two very unequal people: a father (an adult in a position of total power over a young child) and a daughter (a child, a subject to a father’s power)). Therefore, the transactional relationship between parent and child cannot be collaborative and mutually beneficial: it is not something both sides (parent and child) decided on together for the benefit of both sides. Instead, it was something imposed on the weak child by the strong parent, with the intention (in the parent’s mind) to benefit.. the parent. Also, unlike in other contexts, it is never clear to the child what is expected of her day in and day out, how much and .. for how long.

    Back to your quote: “When I take responsibility for feeling transactional and abandoned by N, it cues the same feelings of humility, weak, and scolded like a child. This feeling reminds me of how my dad made me feel, and the familiarity is confusing because it used to indicate me being manipulated, doubt in my own instincts that he was right and my feelings were wrong. So when I need to take responsibility for a feeling such as feeling transactional by N, how do I get the validation that I did the right thing and that he wasn’t in fact transactional?”-

    – Your father did indeed make you feel transactional by his words, expressions and actions. He was wrong in doing that day in and day out, year after year, and he significantly hurt you. For you to no longer feel “weak,  and scolded like a child” in the context of N, you’ll need to become a strong, equal adult in the context of your father. If the price of having a relationship with F is that you remain a weak child… don’t have a relationship with him anymore.

    The validation that you need will not come from F: he will not tell you that he was wrong all these years (unless he wants to manipulate you through an insincere admission of guilt), and that you were right. You have to .. well, Seaturtle will need to validate hatch having been right all along.

    “I actually have a recent example of taking responsibility and feeling this way. The night before thanksgiving…  he was angry at a bad driver and called them the C word. This word makes me very uncomfortable, I have told him this numerous times. I told him again that it made me uncomfortable and to please not. He proceeded to say it again… he kept saying “oh the word c*** bothers you? I am not calling you and c***” just kept saying it. I called him an asshole for doing that… He said ‘words don’t mean sh*t, get that through your head…”-

    – This is the first time that I read about N being crude and rude.. a surprise to me. Unlike what he said, words to mean a whole lot.

    “He lectured me about how he doesn’t let anything outside of him have control over him and how I should do the same and not let a simple word ruin our evening”-

    – The word he repeatedly used, offensive to you (and to many) was not something outside of him: he uttered it from the inside of him.

    “He said ‘you get upset about things that don’t matter and I am tired of it.’..  in that moment I felt similarly to when my dad would manipulate me into believing my feelings were invalid“- N indeed invalidated your feelings in this instance.

    “Confused I just agreed that a word/letters should not control me. I do actually still agree with that”- N shouldn’t utter a word/ letters that he knows are offensive to you (and to many others).

    But reflecting back I do not agree with him that ‘words don’t mean anything’ what is prayer then… I am tired of arguing with him about these things, we have been arguing more than usual the past couple weeks“- (1) I agree with you (2) I wonder what those other arguments were about…

    “Yesterday morning… We went into the grocery store… He also grabbed a case of glass water bottles he liked and when we got to checkout looked at me cause he didn’t have his wallet… Anyways, at the store for the $20 water I pulled out cash from my wallet.. he said ‘um where did you get all that cash?’ I answered… he said ‘no that’s not all where it came from, where did it come from?’…  I said ‘I don’t remember’ he said ‘that’s suspicious you never have money and now you just have cash?’… he then said ‘you never have money and now you do and me asking makes me an a**hole? You know what, f**k you….I am just tired of these little arguments chipping away at our days together and both of our daily energy”-

    – So this was one of those other arguments I was wondering about.. I am getting to know an N that I do not like.

    I wrote to you: “I know that you did not read ANY of it wrong when it came to your Father“, and in response, you asked: “If I read it correctly before then why can’t I read it correctly now?“-

    – a child closes her eyes to what is too threatening to see, so to not be afraid all the time. A child makes believe things are not so bad so to feel safer. It’s too threatening for a child to see that she is indeed stuck for what feels like an eternity with.. a guilt-tripping, transactional father, so she closes her eyes best she can, as in seeing-but-not-seeing.

    I wrote to you: “When the part of you that believes your father … sides with the part of you who knows the truth… you will no longer project F into N.“. You asked: “In order to do this do I need to remember all the times I believed him? My memory of exact moments are not very clear and I remember feelings much more“- no, you don’t need to remember what you don’t remember.

    How do I do this, do I need to be around F to re-experience it and correctly label it?“- no. You need to be around Hatch.. or better say, invite her to be around you. Hold her hand, make her feel safe enough to open her eyes all the way and tell you what she sees.

    Telling the difference between gut and fear in relationships“, is the title of your thread. Think of Hatch being in your gut. Think of Fear being in your gut as well. There needs to be a feeling of safety for Hatch, so that she is no longer stuck with fear.

    Ask Hatch what makes/ made her feel safe through the years, will you? Ask her to speak to you as you type away whatever she says here on your thread (no wrong answers). Let her speak to you in her own child-like words…?

    anita

    in reply to: Telling the difference between gut and fear in relationships #425599
    anita
    Participant

    I will get back to you Sat morning, good night, Seaturtle!

    anita

    in reply to: Telling the difference between gut and fear in relationships #425574
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Seaturtle:

    I just returned from a chilly 3.5 mile pre-Thanksgiving meal and- on my walk- I added (in my mind) the following to my post above regarding authenticity and complexity: in the example of N’s feelings regarding your costume in the play, I figure he genuinely felt- at least for a moment or two-  that the costume exposed too much of your chest area and he genuinely cared about how you feel, not wanting to spoil your after-performance celebration, so he inhibited how he felt about your costume. Later on, after some alcohol, inhibitions lessened, he made a mild comment about the costume.

    But notice this: he felt TWO genuine feelings at the same time (dislike of part of the costume and caring about your feelings). To authentically express one, he had to inhibit the other. This is what I mean by complexity.

    anita

    in reply to: Telling the difference between gut and fear in relationships #425573
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Seaturtle:

    “Something similar did happen the weekend before, right after sex he looked at his phone at the time and clicked out of intimacy mode… It made me feel transactional and abandoned… I told him I knew he loved me and did not mean that but that I was feeling very sad…  So the fact it happened again the very next time we had sex I think played into my response of his phone call within 10 minutes after”-

    – Only part of you knew that he didn’t mean for you to feel transactional and abandoned. The other part of you.. is not so sure, is it? I am quite sure that he didn’t mean it, and I know that he is not at all responsible for you feeling transactional and abandoned. Part of you holds him responsible.

    You know what a huge part a phone plays in people’s lives, people who don’t work or run a business. N running a business that heavily relies on phone calls explains to me why he was on the phone some time after sex.

    I certainly do not want to make N feel this way, how F made me feel” you wrote in regard to N possibly walking on eggshells around you. To stop getting triggered by him, you’d have to take full responsibility for feeling transactional and abandoned, a feeling that dominated a significant part of your growing up years. Way before you met N for the first time.

    it just made me feel suspicious, he went from feeling disconnected into the car to suddenly sweet puppy dog eyes…  what crossed my mind here, that he was being inauthentic”-

    – I wrote the above (about part of you not knowing that he didn’t mean to make you feel badly) before I read the part of you feeling suspicious of him. You’ve been suspicious of him for a long time. No wonder you had such a difficult time when you lived with him.. Living with a Suspect, always on guard..?

    I could certainly be reading to far into things, but a part of who I think I am is that I can read people and whether it is authentic or not“- (1)  Nobody is authentic all of the time.. and no one is exact in what they say to the extent that there are never contradictions in what they say. (2) You are looking for evidence against the Suspect, looking at any possible mismatch between what he says, his facial expressions.. looking for evidence of deceit.

    “This scenario felt that way to me. I am afraid of being told that I read the situation wrong because for some reason it feels like it confuses me on who I am if I cannot correctly read when someone is being inauthentic..”-

    – I don’t think that you read the situation wrong in that indeed at times he is inauthentic, but so am I, and so are you. Actually, it is highly recommended that people will not be authentic when, for example, they feel so angry at their boss, that they want to punch him or her in the face!

    Let’s take a less extreme example: let’s say I was N, watching you in the play, dressed in such a way that part of your chest was showing. Let’s say I felt uncomfortable about other men watching you. I wouldn’t want to be authentic and tell you right there and then about my discomfort because I would ALSO feel that you were having a good time acting, and I wouldn’t want to rain on your parade, so to speak, by criticizing how you were dressed. Then later, the part of me that was not all-the-way okay with it will interject somewhat.

    People are complex.. not much is simple and straightforward all the time. So, part of a conflicted person expresses itself at one time, another part expresses itself at another time.. Not because of deceit but because of complexity.

    “My temptation was to cancel on N, but I decided in the end to have him come over for a certain amount of time and not stay the night, which is what you suggested as well and was best. However, when he got there I was in a good mood, we set up the food and cuddled for a minute first, all was well, then something happened and I journaled about it this morning: ‘Last night N made me feel like F did when I would feel like I was being manipulated“-

    – Here it is: there was deceit on the part of your father (F). You didn’t get that situation wrong. You understood it correctly.

    We were eating at the table and he spilled a glass of wine and it went on the table cloth… I said I felt there was some passive aggression in his response and also just trying to blame me for something? He refused and said ‘you’re just sensitive and I love that you’re sensitive’ this was so incredibly patronizing and felt the same when he was trying to kiss me on Sunday when clearly there was something in the air. My dad would do this, make me feel like I am just too sensitive and feel things that aren’t necessary“-

    – When I read that N said that he loves that you are sensitive, I viewed it positively, as in him expressing that he loves you just the way you are. I didn’t read in what he said any criticism or patronizing.  I think that you accurately understood back then and now who F is. You did not imagine F’s dishonesty, passive-aggression, blaming you, patronizing of you and expressing to you that you are just too sensitive and feeling things that are not necessary/ true.

    As often is the case, we project a difficult parent into a romantic partner, often inaccurately.

    he actually doesn’t think things are really his fault?“- you asked about N. I’ll ask you: F actually doesn’t think things are really his fault, does he?

    he makes me feel crazy for it and that makes me want to run for the hills”- who is “he“, really?

    “To patronize my sensitivity and just try to give me kisses and smiles to make me feel like ‘oh just a cute little girl you are being silly’ that is what the undertone of what he said felt to me. Do you think I am reading this wrong? Because if nothing is wrong and it is all actually just me, that is the familiar feeling F left me with very often, it was always my fault but it was ok and he’d give me a hug“-

    – I know that you did not read ANY of it wrong when it came to your Father. You are re-experiencing your father through N. It feels like it’s about N.. doesn’t it? That’s the nature of (inaccurate) projection, it feels real, it feels accurate.

    The extent and consistency of your projection of F into N makes me think that F is/ has been extremely difficult to live with, while you were growing up.

    he tried to make me feel crazy and over-reading into things but I really don’t think I am“-

    – Your father tried to make you feel crazy and over-reading into things, but I KNOW that you didn’t over-read into F’s words, expressions and behaviors. You perceived him accurately. When the part of you that believes your father (the part that sides with your father’s dishonest manipulations and crazy-making behaviors) sides with the part of you who knows the truth… you will no longer project F into N.

    “I don’t want to get addicted to the most addictive drug, so perhaps I need other ways to feel spiritually connected so I do not crave it for that reason”-

    – Spiritually connect with the truth and disconnect from your father’s untruths. What he told you was NOT true. It was not true that you were too sensitive and imagining things that were not true. No.. it’s your father who gaslit you. Hold him responsible for what he did to you.

    Please take your time with this post and tell me how you feel.

    anita

    in reply to: Telling the difference between gut and fear in relationships #425572
    anita
    Participant

    Happy Thanksgiving, Seaturtle and hatch!

    I just finished and about to submit my reply to you, but depending on how you are spending the day, and it being a reply that’s not easy to process, please feel comfortable to postpone reading it to a time that’s right for you!

    anita

    in reply to: Living by my values – causing me internal issues #425571
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Danny:

    Quotes from the book  Chimp Paradox: “The Psychological Mind is made up of three separate brains: Human, Chimp and Computer. You are the Human. Your Chimp is an emotional thinking machine. Your Computer is a storage area and automatic functioning machine”,

    “Managing your impulsive, emotional Chimp as an adult will be one of the biggest factors determining how successful you are in life”,

    “The Chimp does not necessarily work with facts. but it works with what it believes is the truth or with a perception of the truth or, even worse, with a projection of what might be the truth. It is quick to form an impression on little, if any, evidence and usually won’t give way. Of course, some impressions that the Chimp gives us are accurate and helpful, but they can just as easily be wrong. Searching for some accuracy and truth would help us to reach a sensible conclusion”,

    “A golden rule for understanding people and situations is to ALWAYS try to establish THE FACTS before you make your assessment”.

    Now, to your original post, Danny (I will be adding the boldface feature to some of your words):

    “One of my values I have is that: I do my best at all times… I came home today from work and I had an hour to myself. I could have logged on and sent work emails that could be sent, but I didn’t. I read a book. So here, I feel I am not doing my best. I am more doing what I want. Inner critic rises up!”-

    – You prefaced “I am not doing my best” with “I feel“- that’s Your Chimp beingan emotional thinking machine”– it interprets X=Y because it feels that X=Y. It felt that day that your best would’ve been to send work emails. But what if your best was to read the book you read? What if that was the right thing for you to do that day, after work, and the wrong thing to do, was to send work emails..?

    The Chimp, when it is in charge, leads us to lots of distress based on- not evidence and logic- but its impressions and perceptions that are often incorrect. I don’t think that you were guilty for having read a book.

    The Chimp often makes us feel invalid, false guilt: we feel guilty when we are not guilty.

    “Another value I try to live by is: I am honest in my dealings Again, while that is correct 90% of the time, I did tell a few white little lies today for self preservation and telling customers their order would be with them next week when I know it will be the week after. Again, que the inner critic”-

    – You prefaced lies with white little– The Chimp, when it is in charge, often harasses us with invalid, false guilt, like in your first example. The response of the one harassed: defending against all accusations of guilt, including against valid, true guilt by minimizing or denying it.

    * By self preservation, do you mean that customers threatened to hit you if their orders were late, or a supervisor instructed you to lie to customers and you were afraid to defy instructions and lose your job?

    “Another value I aim to live by is: I do what’s right Again, this is closely related to the value above and whilst I do live a good moral life, lying to that customer earlier, eating that chocolate cake at lunch, whilst aiming to lose a few pounds is not the right thing to do. Again, the inner critic comes at me… I am extremely tough on myself“-

    – Here is the problem: the inner critic comes at you, being aggressive, being extremely tough on you.

    Has anyone any general advice on this topic? All input welcomed and appreciated“-Your aggressive inner critic is your aggressively-critical Inner parent. Replace your aggressive inner critic with a gentle, kind and yet firm inner critic.

    When a child has an aggressive, accusatory parent who is extremely tough on the child (a Chimp Parent, my term), the child tries very hard to do what’s right so to avoid the Chimp Parent’s aggression, feeling a lot of invalid, false guilt, and the child hates feeling guilty so much/ afraid of the Chimp Parent’s aggression, that he minimizes and denies valid, true guilt.

    Replace your Chimp Inner Parent (Chip, for short) with a Human Inner Parent (Hip, for short), a Hip who applies logic, looks for objective evidence and the bigger picture, considers feelings but is not ruled by them, and is kind, yet firm.

    You mentioned chocolate cake: “eating that chocolate cake at lunch, whilst aiming to lose a few pounds is not the right thing to do“- a Chip would harass you over it, putting you down, accusing you… telling you that you shouldn’t have had any cake and should never have cake again…  making you feel oh so bad that you’d crave more chocolate cake so to feel better.

    A Hip would react differently, he’d tell you something like: I can see how much you enjoy chocolate cake, and I want you to enjoy it. I want you to feel good. I also know that you want to lose a few pounds, so I’ll tell you what: have a thin slice of cake twice a week. Which two days of the week would you choose?

    anita

    in reply to: Feeling Stressed out #425570
    anita
    Participant

    Dear EdwardMatthew:

    You are welcome here even if you “don’t even know what (you’re) writing!

    It is interesting how elevated stress works: “I’ve been feeling very stressed out for not working… don’t like anything to do other than  just stay in my room“-

    – your body is quite stationary, not moving (staying in your room), but your thoughts are running: after you typed “I’ve been feeling very stressed out“, your sentences are run-on sentences, no punctuation, no periods, they keep running until your last sentence.

    When thoughts are running all over, the brain is in a useless state of overdrive and the body can’t move, it’s weighted down by the thoughts.

    So first, one needs to slow down the thoughts, and to turn down the volume of the loud, distressing thoughts.. to relax.

    I have been in the mental (and physical) state you are in. Many people have. You can be in a different state: a relatively relaxed mental state where you see who you are and where you are with clarity, a state where clarity replaces confusion. From that mental state, you will know what to do next.

    You mentioned not working, not taking part in family matters, and not having friends you can talk with about your mental state.. Would you like to talk more here, and elaborate on any of these three items you mentioned?

    anita

    in reply to: Telling the difference between gut and fear in relationships #425559
    anita
    Participant

    No, it’s not a heart.. oh well. Be back to you bot, Seaturtle and hatch  tomorrow!

    anita

    in reply to: Telling the difference between gut and fear in relationships #425558
    anita
    Participant

    Dear Seatutle: I will get back to you tomorrow (heart)- I just clicked on “insert/ edit link, typed in google for Source and heart for Image.. and let’s see if I get a heart after I submit this post…

    anita

     

     

    in reply to: Telling the difference between gut and fear in relationships #425556
    anita
    Participant

    * Please ignore this part:

    “Very possible.

    “– my understanding: hatchling has been trying so hard to gain her father’s approval by behaving in ways that would gain his approval, ways that didn’t feel true to her, or didn’t yet feel true to her (hatchling needed time and opportunities to become her true, genuine self).  “

    The way I reply is to copy a member’s post and then reply to it part by part, deleting the parts of the post that I do not respond to. I neglected to delete one of these parts (the above).

    anita

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