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  • in reply to: Love lost #430669
    anita
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    Dear Ben:

    First, a note about personality disorders: I was diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) 13 years ago, a diagnosis that fit me since my beginning adulthood. Following therapy and a lot of work, I no longer fit the diagnosis (what a relief for me and the people in my life!). So, personality disorders are not permanent if you work on healing persistently and for some time.

    The quotes I submitted to you 3 days ago (which appear in your reply italicized), are quotes from the ravive. com on Paranoid Personality Disorder (PPD). It so happens that you and I have more in common than I previously thought: our mothers are similar. I know that my mother fit the PPD (as well as the BPD diagnosis), and her PPD led to me fitting some of the PPD diagnosis myself.

    I am not a medical doctor, nor am I a health care professional of any kind, so I am not diagnosing you or your mother. Even if I was a professional, it would have been unprofessional of me to diagnose anyone online in the context here. But this does not mean that the information on personality disorders, information available to everyone, offered to everyone without preconditions (such as prefacing the information with this information is meant only for professionals). Therefore, it is okay for you and for me to responsibly use the information offered to all.

    Living with my PPD-mother robbed me from the ability to trust people. She kept expressing to me her suspicions of other people (and of me, at different times), again and again, on and on. Growing up, I couldn’t maintain any friendship/ good feelings toward people because I was often angry at them for allegedly mistreating my mother. Her ongoing expressed suspiciousness/ PPD isolated me from her, from myself and from everyone else.

    A PPD mother presents the world to her child as a very hostile world, betrayal of trust is just around the corner, a matter of time. No exception. How can one possibly have a trusting relationship in a world where trust does not exist..?

    “… Frequently complaining – unfortunately a large number of people have told me I do this, including my boyfriend (where I think it extinguishes his very optimistic attitude and leaves him feeling almost depressed after ‘talking to me’– where sometimes it’s just me on a tirade against petty little things)“- the beginning of my healing was to Notice that I was just about to act (say or do something) based on my BPD tendencies, and then Pause, and most often, I would resist doing the damaging BPD behavior. I would feel the tendency, the need, the compulsion to (accuse a person of this or that, etc.) but I didn’t act on it. Over a long time of practicing this discipline, the compulsions weakened.

    This can apply to you in this way: you feel like you are about to complain to your boyfriend, you Notice the feeling/ compulsion, and you put the compulsion on Pause. You don’t complain to him.

    For me this is 100%, I am guarded with him… almost mocking his commitment to me… it’s nearly everyday a ‘joke’ reminding him of his past errors“- reminding him of his past errors, real or imagined, is also a compulsion that you can put on Pause.

    Knowing this, I wish I could let some of it go, but how?…When it was just me it was fine but I can’t treat someone I’m in a relationship with this way – especially how I am now, acting as if it’s his problem!“-

    – it’s not your fault that you grew up with a PPD-ed mother any more than it is my fault that I was brought into the world through a PPD-ed mother. Yet, it is our personal responsibility to heal, best we can, for our ow sake  and for the sake of the people who deserve better from us.

    As I close this post, I am very curious about what you think and feel about all this, hoping that although it’s difficult to process (?) it gives you hope..?

    anita

    anita
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    Dear Cosmo:

    I had to look up ENM: “Consensual non-monogamy, also known as ethical non-monogamy, is an umbrella term for relationships in which all partners give explicit consent to engage in romantic, intimate, and/or sexual relationships”.

    I actually have thought about ENM a while ago. But… I decided to deny the thoughts of non-monogamous relationship at all. Not to mention its very taboo in my country’s moral compass. Its like not me and how I’ve been living my life. Also, if I am ENM, I wouldn’t think I be this devastated“-

    – I need to understand better. Please answer the following if you feel comfortable doing so:

    (1) What motivated you to cheat?

    (2) What thoughts go through your mind when you feel shame and guilt in regard to your cheating within the relationship?

    (3) What was the state of your parents’ marriage when you were growing up, and how was your childhood experience like?

    anita

    anita
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    Dear Cosmo:

    You shared that you cheated a few times on your now ex-girlfriend. She knew about a few of the cheatings and forgave you, but then you cheated again and told her about it, so to “come clean as I believe she needs to make informed decision“. During the no-contact period that followed, she decided to break up with you. You suspect that she broke up with you because she may have “heard about the rumors” during the no-contact, and that your ex shared about your cheating on social media.

    You feel “guilt, shame, remorse, sad“. You saw a psychologist about your feelings and she told you that your cheating is “a behavioral problem” that she doesn’t see that you have deeper issues that need to be addressed, suggested that an open relationship might be the solution to this behavioral problem, and therefore, she saw no need for a second session.

    Before I suggest anything, I’d like to ask you: do you believe that (as I understand the psychologist suggested) you cheated on your girlfriend because you are not suited for a monogamous relationship, similarly to other male mammals who, in nature, and by nature, are not monogamous?

    anita

    in reply to: Confused about relationship – Need help #430636
    anita
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    Dear antarkala:

    You are very welcome, Antarkala, thank you for the note.  I hope that you feel better soon, and looking forward to reading from you!

    anita

    in reply to: Fear, Anxiety and Healing #430634
    anita
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    Continued:

    To express what’s been repressed for decades, more than half a century of repression:

    I am still afraid of the woman I was born through.

    Oopsie.. I was born to that one woman…

    Expressing that repressed expression (“oopsie”) would be saying something like: NO, GET ME OUT OF HERE, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

    Facing a predator day in and day out and nowhere to escape.

    Scared, heart beating fast, cold skin, cold sweat.. dizzy, about to faint, oh no, oh no, help me, someone, HELP ME.

    I used to pray to the stars in the night sky: help me, HELP me, help me.

    Day in and day out, night after night.. and here’s another morning with hope dashed, another day.

    In photographs, in the photo album, her head was missing, torn off.  She cut her head off in photos.

    I tried to tell her: don’t cut your head off, you are beautiful! And she said, in so many words,  no, I am ugly, and you are ugly too!

    anita: I want to help you..!

    Predator: I will kill you, I will murder you!

    That’s the word she used, “murder”, “I will murder you!“. She said these words like a victim, as if I hurt her so badly, that she had no choice but to murder me, to cut my head off.

    Nowhere to go, no safe place. At night, I listened to her breathing and found some relief when it was steady, meaning she was really asleep. She can’t murder me when asleep.

    In her times of wakeful rage, there she was rushing, running toward me, only a few meters/ feet, but still running, her breathing fast and loud, full of rage, ready for the kill.

    This one time she told me: you think I am stupid? I will not break your bones, I will not leave bruises, I’ll get into trouble if I do. I know how to hit you and not leave a sign!

    She was thinking that I was trying to trick her into getting her into trouble with the police or something. She was thinking that I was trying to trick her into breaking my bones so to get her into trouble.

    If this is a mother, then all words have no meaning.

    I feel sorry for her still. Clearly, a very sick person. But I am not feeling sorry for my mother. I didn’t have a mother. I feel sorry for that person.

    And I feel sorry for another person, little girl anita. She didn’t know. She didn’t know what was happening. Oh God, she prayed to no god in particular, please help me, please..! 

    Decades later, the world is filled with predators, some in very powerful places world-wide, but in my personal experience, this one person scared me more than any other, this predator in my life, my personal predator, a freakish distortion of the word mother.

    anita

     

    anita
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    Like I said before, you love to hate her. If you had a girlfriend who was as perfect as can be, where would you direct all this hate that’s inside you?

    anita

    in reply to: Oh! Life you are complicated. #430630
    anita
    Participant

    Dear anonymous:

    The last 4 sentences of your original post: “I wrote this last night and suddenly slept. This morning the moment I woke up I was disappointed that I was alive and thought ending my pain. Then I hear my child waking up and calling me. Oh! life…“-

    – the answers are all in your words right above: (1) Express yourself, just as you did in your original post,  let out your emotions, type them out on the computer screen. You suddenly slept after expressing yourself the night you typed your original post, good thing. Keep doing what works,

    (2) Your child waking up is a new life waking up, calling you, getting your attention; find new life within you and attend to it. I will soon elaborate on this point.

    The title of your thread is “Oh! Life you are complicated“. Let’s simplify life, not over-simplify it, but just enough to be realistic and somewhat hopeful.

    Hatred, deception, and hypocrisy are the qualities to survive in this world and unfortunately, I do not have them…How can we say life is beautiful when all we see, and experience is cruelty and hatred“- there is indeed a huge void in this world, a void of peace, of mildness, of kindness. And we are all (the hating and the hated, the deceiving and the deceived) on the same boat of destruction.

    Morning is the worst time, and the moment I wake up, I am instantly grappled by feeling of despair, fear, helplessness, and void… As I grew up, I faced incidences of bullying. I was not able to confront them…  I was not able to stand for myself…  On one occasion, I was badly beaten by a classmate… I was helpless and got into shock“- the void-within: too scared to stand up for yourself, not being able to help yourself (aka helplessness).

    Another instance… He abused her in front of me and others, and I just became a shameless observant… I still see it in my dreams, becoming helpless“- the void-within: too scared to stand up for and help the abused.

    “I just became a shameless observant… I was not able to face them. I still see it in my dreams, becoming helpless and have a guilt about it“-

    – shame and guilt are huge contributors to your helplessness and despair. You were not shameless when you passively observed the abuse done to your classmate; you were scared, a scared observant. You’d have to peel the shame and guilt off the fear, so to heal as much as it is possible for you to heal.

    You’ll need to replace the shame and guilt with empathy for the scared boy within you.

    Once you do that, the scared boy within you will be less scared, and courage will be the new life within you, which I mentioned above. Courage will replace helplessness.

    There were occasions when he (your father) expressed his deep love… One day before his death he called me multiple times, but I was busy at work and was unable to take it and thought I would call him tomorrow. It never came and he passed next day. His death has tremendously impacted me, created a void, and I feel guilty about it“-

    – there were many, many occasions when you expressed your deep love for your father. Your love for him motivated you to study and work as hard as you did, so to meet his expectations. You weren’t with him that one day when  he passed, but you loved him all the days of your life.

    I think I was never programmed to stay happy. I live in constant fear that something bad will happen. I ruminate through the past..“- your brain is in the habit, by this point, of feeling anxious and depressed. Reading my reply.. reading anything.. will not change the chemical habits of your brain, (chemicals that create your emotional experience). It will take replacing the old chemical/ mental habit with a new habit. New activities within your daily routine are needed, ex.: exercise, guided meditations, a Tai-Chi class, yoga and a daily practice of Mindfulness.

    I would like to communicate with you further..

    anita

    in reply to: Help with Relationship #430626
    anita
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    * Dear Tommy: when I read the ending of your (excellent!) advice, “I am sorry for my poor advice”, I had to tell you that I am a fan! Your fan, and more accurately, I am a Tommy’s Ego Fan (a TEF). I like your combination of humility and humor.

    Dear John:

    I went back to re-reading your posts because of Tommy’s reply and with his input in mind:

    (I am adding the boldface feature selectively to the quotes): “She’s asked for space, and I’ve really tried to give it to her… we are still in contact minimally“- better that you give her all the space she asked for. Otherwise, it portrays you as either too weak to stay away from her and/ or disrespectful of her need for space.

    “Does anyone have any advice on how to practice patience when it comes to a relationship that is paused?”- a relationship that is paused is still ongoing, but it’s .. sort of, not alive anymore, yet it’s not dead either. This may be more difficult to endure long-term than if it was a relationship that was ended.

    “Met a girl, we became really close, very fast… Things were said… in the line of moving way too fast and saying way too much too early in a relationship… I felt like I had to over do it so she wouldn’t lose interest.  I felt like I had to move quickly so that I wouldn’t lose her… I pushed too hard”-

    – reads like Anxious Attachment Style, on your part, indicating you growing up with an unreliable parent: one that was present with you sometimes (enough for you to form an attachment to), but unpredictably absent too many times, for what felt (or was) long periods of time.  The absence could be a parent spending time outside the home, leaving the child behind with a babysitter, let’s say. It could be a parent staying in her bedroom for long periods of time, leaving the child alone, elsewhere in the house, or otherwise withdrawing affection from the child unpredictably.

    Fast forward, the child, now an adult, forms a strong romantic connection to another, and the child-within panics, scared of losing the parent again, by proxy of the romantic partner (the parent gets projected into the romantic partner).

    “The reason that this relationship means so much is because of how open and vulnerable I was, without hesitation from me or judgement from her.  I’ve never experienced that before”- before the relationship, you were too afraid to be open and vulnerable, with her you were open and vulnerable. Part of your openness was to express you anxiety about losing her, wasn’t it?

    And that anxiety was too much for her to bear, so she needed space. Maybe she felt too much of a responsibility for your emotional well-being, as in having a needy child.

    “Ugh.  I mean, it’s frustrating because of the self immolation that I constantly practice in my life”-

    – from a website (save tibet. org): “Self immolation is a profound cry for help by those who feel they have no other way to tell the world about their suffering”.

    You are welcome here, to tell about your suffering in ways that express- on the screen- the depth of your suffering, if it is something that may help you. (This is what I do in my own thread, and I find it helpful).

    anita

    in reply to: Fear, Anxiety and Healing #430609
    anita
    Participant

    Continued:

    It’s a shift from the mindset of having had a bad mother to having had no mother. The first mindset has been about complaining about the bad mother, being stuck in a war with her, war for her love; the second does not consist of complaining, of fighting, of resisting reality.

    It’s about redefining a mother, from that of a person to that of a quality of connection. This is a way, way more accurate definition of a mother.

    Can’t really move on from the first mindset, can move on from the second. Let it sink into me. It’s not that I had a bad mother (I had a bad person to whom I was born), it’s that I had no mother.

    And I never will have a mother. This means I can let go of the bad person, the one I was born to.

    The absence of a mother, that is, of a connection, has led to a disconnected, disassociated life. Without knowing it, I have longed for that person for decades of adulthood, waiting for her to become a mother, somehow. Trying to earn her approval, even by the way I think, as if she can read my thinking, loyal to her still in how I think, in how I feel.

    Goodbye, the person to whom I was born.

    anita

     

    in reply to: Fear, Anxiety and Healing #430608
    anita
    Participant

    Continued:

    I didn’t have a mother.

    A mother is a special love- connection, a warm connection, a belonging, a good feeling, a peace of mind and heart. I do not have a single memory of a moment when I felt this way with the person I was born to.

    There is healing in the knowing of this, in the real, complete understanding of this truth.

    anita

     

    in reply to: Workplace Manipulator #430592
    anita
    Participant

    Dear ManagoFandango:

    You are welcome, and thank you!

    Regarding unions in  Eastern Europe, I read in iza world of labor (I am adding what’s in parentheses): “The economies of the CEE (Central-Eastern Europe) countries experienced substantial declines in trade union membership in the aftermath of the economic transition of the late 1980s and the early 1990s. The decline in union density that occurred in these countries between the early 1990s and 20012/ 2013 was much steeper than the de-unionization that took place in Western Europe and the US during that period…

    “These trends mirror the transition from systems in which union membership was largely compulsory, to the neoliberal (favoring policies that promote free market capitalism, deregulation, and reduction in government spending) models most CEE countries adopted… Industrial relations (the relations between management and workers in industry) in CEE are largely decentralized and fragmented, with collective bargaining taking place mainly at the local or firm level”-

    – reads to me that if you don’t have someone within your workplace to help you.. your only option would be to do your best to help yourself.

    Today she came to me with a request that also wasn’t in my job description that I  ignored. (I just didn’t pick up the phone.) I felt very bad as she was all sweet today, and I thought to myself.. was I imagining things? Does she just consider me as a friend and that’s why she asks for favours? But I have to remember that the cycle will start again, when I expect it the least“- expect it then, don’t be manipulated by her sweetness. It can be tempted to feel safe in the appearance of her sweetness and friendliness, but better not be deceived.

    Psychology today/ 9 classic strategies of manipulative people: “manipulative people have mastered the art of deception. They may appear respectable and sincere but often that’s just a facade… They will attempt to confuse you, maybe even making you feel as if you’re crazy. They distort the truth and may resort to lying if it serves their end… Manipulative people can play the victim, making you seem to be the one who caused a problem which they began but won’t take responsibility for. They can be passive-aggressive or nice one minute and standoffish the next, to keep you guessing and to prey on your fears and insecurities”- reads familiar to you?

    anita

    in reply to: Breaking up difficulty #430580
    anita
    Participant

    Dear gresshoppe:

    I’m compassionate, but part of me feels like he’s prolonging it“- be compassionate toward yourself as well. If the prolonging of the talk, a talk you want to be done with, is distressing you, you can send him a breakup message online, one that is kind and gentle. He can read it at his pace, when it’s convenient for him.

    anita

    anita
    Participant

    * Editing the very last paragraph:

    rock solid faith: “If a spouse is unfaithful, the Bible teaches that they can ask God for forgiveness, and He will forgive them“- not that B is a spouse, but nonetheless, she can ask God to forgive her.

    Learn from the experience, correct the behaviors on your part that need to be corrected, and forgive yourself.

    anita

    anita
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    * Because the following includes many quotes from online sources, it may include a lot of excess/ messy print, in which case, I will resubmit it for a clear, easy to read text.

    Dear Paradoxy:

    I am back to your thread because it would be socially irresponsible of me to leave a question  you asked 16 hours ago unanswered. Here is the question that you asked in this public forum: “Doesn’t that make me an abuser too? Because I have called her names in anger and apologized to her later, only to repeat it the next time she pissed me off. The only difference is that I did not just call her random insults (except recently with the use of the term bitch, whore (which I already explained), garbage, trash etc.), I made sure to use terms that literally described how she was behaving, such as brick wall, stupid, dumb, fool etc.”

    I will take my time answering your question as thoroughly as I can. It will be a long post.

    You called her (B) names, names that you placed in 2 categories: (1) “random insults” and (2) “terms that literally described how she was behaving“.

    You listed examples of the names you called her under the 2 categories: bi**, wh***, garbage, trash, etc. (category 1), and brick wall, stupid, dumb, fool, etc. (category 2).

    The “etc.” clearly suggests that there are other names in  each category, names that you called her, but you didn’t list those names.

    You stated that you called her names, apologized for it later, only to do it again. And you stated that you called her names “in anger“, when she “pissed (you) off“.

    very well mind: “Verbal abuse is a type of emotional abuse. It is when someone uses their words to assault, dominate, ridicule, manipulate, and/or degrade another person and negatively impact that person’s psychological health. Verbal abuse is a means of controlling and maintaining power over another person”.

    Wikipedia: “Verbal abuse (also known as verbal aggression, verbal attack, verbal violence…) is a type of psychological/ mental abuse that involves the use of oral, gestured, and written language directed to a victim.. (including) the use of derogatory terms, the delivery of statements intended to frighten, humiliate, denigrate, or belittle a person”.

    Psychology today: “Verbal abuse is a way of hurting others, using words or silence as a weapon. Unlike physical abuse, verbal abuse doesn’t give rise to broken limbs, black eyes, or bruises. Yet it can be just as emotionally disturbing and often leads to anxiety, fear, despair, or depression”.

    very well family: “Everyone has heard the saying: ‘Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.”‘ The problem is, this statement is not the least bit true. Name-calling is one of the most damaging and painful types of bullying… It is a form of relational bullying… Name-calling can have serious consequences on mental health. In fact, many researchers feel it is one of the most damaging forms of bullying”.

    definitions, us legal: “Verbal abuse is the use of words to cause harm to the person being spoken to… The most commonly understood form is name-calling. Verbal abuse may consist of shouting, insulting, intimidating, threatening, shaming, demeaning, or derogatory language, among other forms of communication. Perpetrators of verbal abuse often misuse their authority and prey on those in a subordinate position”.

    Christian website: “Verbal abuse can leave deep wounds that are not easily healed. If you or someone you know suffers from this, you may wonder – what does the Bible say about verbal abuse? Read on as we explore biblical truths about this difficult topic. The quick answer is that Scripture clearly prohibits abusive speech and behavior. Time and again biblical authors condemn harsh words, insults, slander, and more. The Bible calls us to love one another, which leaves no room for tearing others down with our words… The Bible has strong words against verbal abuse and hurtful speech…

    “The Bible says ‘the tongue has the power of life and death‘ (Proverbs 18:21). Our words carry tremendous power and we are accountable for how we use them. Scripture condemns verbal abuse in passages like Ephesians 4:29: ‘Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.’ Hurtful speech tears down rather than builds up… Words have incredible power. They can uplift and encourage, or demoralize and destroy. Verbal abuse inflicts deep wounds. Studies show it negatively affects mental health and can lead to anxiety, depression, low self-esteem, PTSD, and even suicide…

    “Words also impact us physiologically. Being yelled at spikes blood pressure and stress hormones like cortisol. Over time, this damages health. At an extreme, words can even kill. Scripture says ‘cruel words crush the spirit’ (Proverbs 15:4 CEV). Abusive speech destroys relationships and tears families apart. It breeds insecurity, resentment, and dysfunction. God desires our speech to build up, not tear down. As Ephesians 4:15 (NLT) says, ‘We will speak the truth in love, growing in every way more and more like Christ‘…Proverbs 18:21 declares, ‘Death and life are in the power of the tongue.‘…

    “We have a sobering responsibility in how we use our words… Jesus emphasized the importance of our words in Matthew 12, where He said we will give an account on judgment day for every ‘careless word’ we have spoken (v.36). Sobering words indeed!… Ephesians 4:29 provides a helpful filter we can apply to our communication: ‘Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.’ Before speaking, we ought to ask ourselves, “Will this comment contribution positively to this conversation and to the people participating?” If not, it’s better left unsaid…

    “The first recorded instance of verbal abuse in the Bible is when Cain insulted his brother Abel. Genesis 4:3-8 describes how both brothers brought offerings to God. Abel’s offering of the firstborn of his flock pleased God, but Cain’s offering of fruit did not. This angered Cain greatly and ‘his face fell.‘ Rather than examine his own heart, Cain took out his anger on his brother, mocking his offering. This ultimately led to the first murder when Cain killed his brother…

    “Many faiths uphold the inherent worth and dignity of all people as made in the image of God (Genesis 1:27). Degrading words can violate this God-given dignity. Scripture calls us to ‘speak evil of no one’ (Titus 3:2)..

    “The Bible compares the tongue’s power to a flaming fire that can consume what it touches (James 3:6). Our speech has creative potential for good or ill. As Matthew 12:37 states, ‘By your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned’. Golden rule: Jesus taught to ‘do to others what you would have them do to you‘ (Matthew 7:12). If we wouldn’t wan t to receive harsh words, we should be unwilling to inflict them on others. Applying the Golden Rule to our speech promotes compassion”.

    Back to your words of 16 hours ago, Paradoxy: “this is not the first fight/break up we have had… this constant break up and getting back together was a cycle“- I wanted to ask you a long time ago, but didn’t: since you met B, if you add all the time you and her were together vs apart, were you apart longer than you were together? Also, who initiated a breakup every time a breakup took place? Were all the fights about her sexual misconduct, or were there other topics? Did she start the fights, did you, or was it a mix? Last question for now: when you called her names, how did she react?

    You didn’t mention that she called you names. You shared that in  regard to her sexual misconduct, she lied to you, accused you and blamed you for it, for example, saying that she prostituted herself once or twice because you broke up with her. In adult, romantic relationships, often it is not the case that one of the parties is The Victim and the other, The Perpetrator. Often there is wrong-talking and wrong-doing on both sides.

    Back to what you wrote yesterday: “most of these girls here are worse than B. I’ve seen how these girls behave, literally no respect for their partners. These girls make B look like she is a perfect angel from heaven“-

    – this worries me. You repeatedly called a “perfect angel from heaven” (by comparison to other women), terrible names.. if you got into a relationship with any of the “worse than B” women, what would you call them..?

    Of course, I hope you wouldn’t call anyone names, which brings me back to your question. The answer: yes, you verbally abused B, and repeatedly.

    I just read your most recent posts. You ended your 2nd post a few minutes ago with this: “I know I gave B a lot of chances already, but even the Bible indicates that I should forgive an infinite number of times. However, I guess even the Bible doesn’t want me to be taken advantage of. Paradoxy”-

    rock solid faith: “If a spouse is unfaithful, the Bible teaches that they can ask God for forgiveness, and He will forgive them“- not that B is a spouse, but nonetheless, ask your God to forgive her. Learn from the experience, correct the behaviors on your part that need to be corrected, and forgive yourself.

    anita

    in reply to: Workplace Manipulator #430531
    anita
    Participant

    Dear ManagoFandango:

    Welcome back to the forums!

    this thing consumes me almost every day, I keep obsessing over it and overthink what to say and what to do. So, I got this job 3 years ago, when I first got it, I found a coworker, let’s call her B.  that was at first nice to me, and she helped me settle in.. After 2 years she got promoted, but she wasn’t my boss, she just had a higher position than me… she keeps asking me in the morning to buy her cigarettes (she did this more that 10 times), food or something, and sometimes doesn’t pay me back… She asks me to do things that are not my job… When I refuse she is passive-aggressive and treats me poorly like favouring other employees“-

    What you describe reads like a Workplace Bullying situation.

    healthline/ what is workplace bullying?: “Workplace bullying is harmful, targeted behavior that happens at work. It might be spiteful, offensive, mocking, or intimidating. It forms a pattern, and it tends to be directed at one person or a few people… According to the Workplace Bullying Institute, more than 60 million working people in the United States are affected by bullying. Existing federal and state laws only protect workers against bullying when it involves physical harm or when the target belongs to a protected group, such as people living with disabilities or people of color. Since bullying is often verbal or psychological in nature, it may not always be visible to others…

    “According to 2017 research from the Workplace Bullying Institute: * About 70 percent of bullies are male, and about 30 percent are female. * Both male and female bullies are more likely to target women. *Sixty-one percent of bullying comes from bosses or supervisors. Thirty-three percent comes from co-workers. The remaining 6 percent occurs when people at lower employment levels bully their supervisors or others above them…

    “Bullying from managers might involve abuse of power, including negative performance reviews that aren’t justified, shouting or threats of firing or demotion, or denying time off or transfer to another department. People working at the same level often bully through gossip, work sabotage, or criticism. Bullying can occur between people who work closely together, but it also happens across departments. People who work in different departments may be more likely to bully through email or by spreading rumors. Lower level employees can bully those working above them. For example, someone might: * show continued disrespect to their manager * refuse to complete tasks * spread rumors about the manager * do things to make their manager seem incompetent.

    “According to 2014 research from the Workplace Bullying Institute, people believed that targets of bullying were more likely to be kind, compassionate, cooperative, and agreeable…

    “When experiencing bullying, it’s common to feel powerless and unable to do anything to stop it. If you try to stand up to the bully, you may be threatened or told no one will believe you. If it’s your manager bullying you, you may wonder who to tell. First, take a moment to remind yourself that bullying is never your fault, regardless of what triggered it. Even if someone bullies you by making it seem like you can’t do your job, bullying is more about power and control, not your work ability.

    “Begin to take action against bullying with these steps: * Document the bullying. Keep track of all bullying actions in writing. Note the date, the time, where the bullying took place, and other people who were in the room. * Save physical evidence. Keep any threatening notes, comments, or emails you receive, even if they’re unsigned. If there are documents that can help prove bullying, such as denied PTO requests, overly harsh commentary on assigned work, and so on, keep these in a safe place. * Report the bullying. Your workplace may have a designated person you can talk to if you don’t feel safe talking to your direct supervisor. Human resources is a good place to start. It’s also possible to talk about the bullying with someone higher up if your supervisor is unhelpful or is the person doing the bullying. * Confront the bully. If you know who’s bullying you, bring along a trusted witness, such as a co-worker or supervisor, and ask them to stop — if you feel comfortable doing so. Be calm, direct, and polite. * Review work policies. Your employee handbook may outline steps of action or policies against bullying. Also consider reviewing state or even federal policies about the type of bullying you’re experiencing. * Seek legal guidance. Consider talking to a lawyer, depending on the circumstances of the bullying. Legal action may not always be possible, but a lawyer can offer specific advice. * Reach out to others. Co-workers may be able to offer support. Talking to your loved ones about the bullying can also help. You can also talk to a therapist. They can provide professional support and help you explore ways to cope with the effects of bullying while you take other action. If you’re a member of a union, your union representative may be able to offer some guidance and support on how to deal with bullying. You can also look into your employer’s employee assistance program, if they have one. EAPs help you access resources to address a variety of issues that can affect your mental health and overall well-being.

    Back to your original post: “Going to my boss or HR I don’t think is an option as they are buddies, but I just can’t deal with this anymore. I feel like I always cross my own boundaries and resent myself for that.  Maybe there’s another way that I don’t see and you can help me with that“- maybe something inn the resource I quoted can help you.

    very well mind/ signs and effects of workplace bullying and healthline/ workplace bullying, how to take action are two other resources. Wikipedia has a long entry on the topic with reference to different countries. I am sure that you can research resources in the country where you live.

    You described a very difficult situation, which is not good for your physical and mental health. I hope things improve for you, by a lot!

    anita

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