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Dear Going Through Life:
This is what you shared about EN, summarized: you met her through a dating app in Sept 2023, met her in-person two times only, and communicated long-distance almost everyday for 4 months, until Dec 2023, when she told you that it’s best to stop talking because of the distance and the timing, and a few days later, she told you that she met someone else. At one point, she offered to stay friends with you, but you declined, saying that if you want to be friends, you will reach out to her. You reached out to her at the end of March, or very early April 2024, and her response: “she isnāt looking forward to a friendship, saying her new boyfriend may feel uncomfortable.”
About your feelings for her, you shared (the boldfaced are your words) that communicating almost everyday with her over the course of 4 months was nice and fun, you started to fall for her, you felt that your feelings for her were reciprocated, you miss that connection with her, feeling a strong pure bond to her, and that on one hand, your feelings for her scare you, and on the other, thinking about her makes you smile a lot. And last thing you added in your most recent pot is: “I was never attached to EN“.
This is what you shared about SS: you met her in Feb 2024, she isĀ nice and sweet and sheās smart too, but you donāt want to through yourĀ attachment issues, and focus on your goals instead. You are thinking about breaking up with her because you don’t feel such a strong connection with her, you miss EN a lot, and want a connection like you had with EN. You added, in your most recent post: “And I think besides feelings Iām starting to get attached to SS which Iām not keen of“.
Back in Jan 30 (page 1) I added online quotes about the avoidant attachment style, including what you shared about another young woman, SK: “It was a very passionateĀ and lovely relationshipā¦ I wasĀ really attracted to herā, āI broke up with her.. Ā got into FWBā¦ I again pulled myself away. I did this push and pull a lot with herā.
In your Jan 30- 31 replies, you wrote: “I agree with the fearful avoidant attachment style… Even now when I think someone will love me, I will end up pushing them away. Iām scared of that deep commitment… I regret a lot not accepting her love…Ā My emotions were always numbed with SK. I refused to say I love you to her many times, I was scared, I (have) burst out with anger sometimes too… I was never emotionally dependent on anyone since I was young“.
Normally, I’d follow the above with my analysis, but this time, I would like you to sit with the above for a while and come up with your own, thoughtful analysis over time of calm contemplation.
I find these sentences in your post of seven hours ago most interesting: “I think besides feelings Iām starting to get attached to SS which Iām not keen of. I was never attached to EN.“- I would very much like to read your analysis including what these two sentences mean.
anita
anitaParticipantContinued:
Loyalty Unrewarded, a title of a book I will never author.
Loyalty Never Rewarded, never to be rewarded. Loyalty that was never acknowledged, never to be acknowledged.
Never Noticed.
A better title: Loyalty Unnoticed.
Better title: Love Unnoticed.
I hated people because of loyalty to her-
My whole life, hating people she hated-
But no noticing AT ALL by the person I have been decades-long Loyal to-
I was left Alone by the person I tried to be a part of
Alone hating all the people she hated-
Alone all the way around-
Alone
Simply Alone
Love for her never reciprocated, never noticed
The essence of me (love for my mother) never noticed-
Not even Noticed?
Just like that, dismissed, ignored?
Why is it a surprise- I mean, she said: “you are nothing, a big zero”-
She said it, but I didn’t believe her, didn’t believe her words
And tried, again and again to make her love the “big zero”
No, believe her
Let go, let go of loyalty to her.
-To be continued.
anita
anitaParticipantDear Meatball:
“I’ve asked her to be out by the time I get back“- this is the best part of your latest post. I hope that she will be out by the time you are back from vacation! I’ll write more Mon morning (it’s Sun evening here)
anita
anitaParticipantDear SadSoul:
Thank you for another amazing post. I read it many hours ago, but postponed replying because it got me emotional. My hand is better, by the way. I’ll be back to you Mon morning (Sun early afternoon here).
anita
anitaParticipantDear Going Through Life:
“What are your thoughts on this Anita?“- I may have more thoughts Mon morning (it’s Sun early afternoon here), but for now, I am thinking that maybe your strong emotional connection to EN has to do with the fact that she is unavailable (she told you that she has a boyfriend), so it feels safe to long for someone unavailable. On the other hand, SS seems available, and it is scary to be in a real, ongoing relationship. You can let me know your thoughts about this, and I will return to you tomorrow morning.
anita
June 2, 2024 at 12:29 pm in reply to: Telling the difference between gut and fear in relationships #433381anitaParticipantDear Seaturtle:
“But what do you love about… me specifically apart from others… I donāt feel seen… I am not sure he sees what makes me special… I often rely on others to see myself… About soulmates, I think this feeling of them turning on a light in a dark room so that I can see myself… My craving to be seen is very intense… I am alone in a dark room… I analyze all the relationships in my life, extensively. Out of wonder of why they arenāt understanding what I am saying…I grew up surrounded, and am now realizing am currently still surrounded by people with closed third eyes, they do not see beyond very basic needs/ perspectives. My friend P… Just as N… And just like my roommate… I have been around so many people who have challenged my third eye… If I have OCD about anything, it is the fact I want to be as self aware as possible. I fear a lack of it. I also doubt my ability to be self aware so I open up to people who might help me see” (July 29, 2023- May 29, 2024)
I read that sometime during the 2nd year of life, a child (boy or girl), for the first time in her life, recognizes herself in the mirror, and that is the beginning of self-awareness: that’s me in the mirror! (Apart from others!)
Your self-awareness started a long time ago (you do recognize yourself in the mirror). But when your father demanded that you see him, he significantly disrupted the further and farther development of your self-awareness, and you found yourself in the dark, craving light, and depending on friends, boyfriends, others, to turn on the light for you,Ā so that you can see you.
It didn’t work, I believe, because it takes a qualified psychotherapist, within a professional therapeutic context, to help a person whose mental- emotional development was significantly disrupted in childhood (to help long-term, that is, beyond feeling better for just a sort while).
My mental- emotional development, as far as self-awareness (and others-awareness), was severely disrupted in childhood, causing me lots of mental suffering and dependence on.. strangers to help me, strangers who failed me. I was indeed in the dark, aimless, long-term direction, and often, not even a short-term direction; time and resources diffused and wasted. My first quality psychotherapist of 2011-13 was not perfect, but the best I ever had. It started me turning the light on, again and again, and overall, there’s been a significant, long-term Luminance Enhancement in my life (LE, just felt like coming up with an acronym, so I did just because I felt like it, lol).
anita
anitaParticipantDear SadSoul:
“Iād spend hours full of guilt wishing I could think of a reason that wouldnāt hurt them, and occasionally I lied… I hated myself lying, even if it was a āwhiteā lie. I hated myself for letting them down in the first place. I hated myself for trying to āwhiteā lie. Iām this old now, and itās taken this long to accept I just need to say, āI forgot..“- one feeling excessively, relentlessly guilty, one hates oneself, as in: I hurt you so badly, I am a BAD person, I hate this bad person (me)!
“Iām very glad you didnāt (die)!”- thank you!!!
“Maybe writing this can help the pain reduce in you? I hope so. For me, knowing someone understands and cares helps, you have given me this. Thank you for sharing such a deep thing with me”– yes, writing this helps ne, knowing someone (you) understands and cares.
“I am especially blessed to be able to give you such a thing. I donāt know you well but I can very much see that you are a special person; a special person who for no fault of their own was given a very broken human for a mother āĀ literally the opposite of a mother who loves and cares, a mother who hated and broke those around her, a broken piece of rubbish ā but against all odds here you are, special, kind, growing yourself into the person you should have been allowed to grow up to be“- me, a special person, me- a special person. What a different life my life would have been if that was the message given to me from the beginning..!
“I spent a bit of time with the offspring reminiscing about the life of the loved pet… my heart sings because theyāre no longer carrying hurt or whatever towards me for giving them boundaries. And! They sometimes forgive me and show amazing understanding for my failings”– ahh, A Mother, a real mother!
“I have been meandering through my reply for the last few hours, donāt a bit, coming back to it after interrupting myself with things I need to get done and probably time to digest what Iām writing too. Youāre my invisible friend Iām pouring my heart out to. Thank you.“- invisible sad soul friend: I imagine (and I may be wrong, of course), I imagine that your hair is dirty blond (with grey), that you are about 1.70 meter tall, no to little make up, very light skin; wild sport: 2-person canoe riding, (by the way, there are wild coyote calls in the dark, as I am typing this), eyes: green, or very hazel brown.Ā About me: I am 1.65 meters, 50 kg, brown eyes with hazel, dark brown hair mostly grey, in ponytail, olive color skin,Ā always in jeans, size zero USA).
Last night, I had an alcohol related injury: I cut my hand.. deeply, accidently (ooops), in front of people, blood gushing. Embarrassing!Ā More than 24 hours later, my hand is bandaged, I am typing this with a taped hand, doesn’t hurt anymore.. it’s strange how alarming it is to watch your blood exiting your body in a big flow.
So, I didn’t sleep much Fri night, feeling guilty for messing up others’ experience with my blood gushing (unintended) exhibition. It is now Sat night, 10:08 pm.. late night. Good night, SadSoul!
anita
anitaParticipantDear Laven:
“I feel like he genuinely thinks Iām beneath him and that he was doing me a favor by dating me… I think that he genuinely feels like Iām beneath him“- even if he thinks that you are beneath him.. even if you think that you are beneath him,Ā the truth is that you are NOT beneath him; that he is NOT above you.
You, Laven, are not beneath him; he is not above you.
anita
anitaParticipantDear SadSoul:
I had a tough night and slept very poorly, so I can’t focus and properly read or reply. I hope to feel better by tomorrow and get back to you then. I see your last line, referring to me as your invisible friend, you are welcome and thank you!
anita
May 31, 2024 at 4:02 pm in reply to: Telling the difference between gut and fear in relationships #433366anitaParticipantI am thinking about you, Seaturtle, hoping that you are okay, and wishing you peace of mind, and love in your heart.
anita
anitaParticipantDear Going Through Life:
When you chose to not journal, you didn’t do anything wrong, you weren’t rude to me. So, there is no reason for you to apologize to me.
In my last post to you, when I wrote that you are welcomed to accept or reject any suggestion I make to you, and that I am fine in either case, I meant it.
It wasn’t rude of you to not journal; it would have been rude of me if I insisted that you journal, or guilt-tripped you into it, or any such thing.
I am explaining and stressing this because it is important, that as you are.. going through life, that you don’t go through life guiltily, feeling guilty for makingĀ choices that you have the right to make.
(Personally, I used to feel so guilty about so many things that I was not guilty of..)
anita
anitaParticipantYou are welcome, Simon. Good to read back from you. Take all the time that you need to reply further (no rushing..).
anita
anitaParticipantDear SadSoul:
“Donāt be afraid. Iām very boring“– I like boring, predictable people, I really do!Ā “and never at my best, but always trying to be the best me I can be“- humble, trustworthy and beautifully said!
“Iām not judgmental and I donāt care about looks, money, or popularity ā Iām very not popular“- I love this. You are gifted when it comes to combining words/ writing (says I).
“I just like honest people without hidden agendas and meanings. I like kind people“- it’d be perfectly peaceful place, this world we live in, if every person was honest, without hidden agendas and meanings, and kind.
“Oooh thatās terrifying. What type of sharp toothed tiger did you see on that other mystic adventure? Youāre going to have to be careful of this wild world you live in. Are they coming close because the world is going back to nature around you or because theyāre running out of their world?“- their world is here. This is not a heavily populated area, and there’s a lot of berries, rodents, rabbits, deer.. . lots of food for coyotes, bears, bobcats, and mountain lions.
“I am a weird combination of quiet and shy, but also talkative with those I know and trust. I like quietness“- I could have written this about myself.
“Itās human nature to love and protect. Human nature can be a whole lot of other horrible things too but if the majority of people were the horrible things, weād die out. Your mother is a member of the extinction group, sheās not a part of the continuation of the race, sheās a failure as a human organism“- she is part of the extinction group- not on the massive scales that Hitler, Stalin and others were; not on the massive scale that current antisocial politicians are, causing millions of people to unnecessarily suffer and die-Ā But in this one person anita, she is responsible for a massive amount of unnecessary suffering.
Growing up I wanted to die, so that the suffering-within will end. But I didn’t want to.. bother her with the inconvenience… I felt too guilty. Replaying certain scenes in my life, it looks like a miracle that I did not accidently die, such as inattentively walking into a busy street, or driving too fast and almost crashing, repeatedly.
Unfortunately, and very sadly, there are other people growing up with her who suffered then, and still do.
Writing the above was difficult, to acknowledge the massive amount of unnecessary suffering one person can cause another person/ a few people in their lives, a few people who to one extent or another, in one context or another, hurt yet more people, making our world the place that it is.
“I hope somehow knowing that you matter helps. No one can give you the childhood you deserved but I hope it helps you heal knowing that in a different family you would have been cherished. I canāt go back and help you beautiful little self but I can tell you I would if I could. Iām glad weāve blown into each otherās worlds“- I wrote earlier, in a previous post, that what you wrote back then was the most beautiful thing I ever read.. well, add this to the-most-beautiful category.
“I didnāt get to sleep last night… Iām really sad just now. On a positive note, I think this sadness is an equal reaction to the events around it… So, I think itās regular sadness. Hmmm.“- I hope you slept better since, that your sadness is still of the regular kind.
anita
anitaParticipantDear Simon:
“Iām in a pretty poor state of mind currently completely burnt out with stress from every corner of my life (May 30, 2024)”- as I re-read this sentence today, I thought to myself that you may be too stressed and burned out to read the post that I submitted to you back in Oct 2, 2023.
Here is a summary of that post, a summary of what you shared back in Feb 2022: you were close to 50 years old, married and a father of five (3 different mothers), owning your own home and your own business (a very busy cafe where you were the chef), but you have been depressed and feeling lonely for more than 30 years. You shared that if one was to see you, one would see a āsuccessful father, husband, good guyā, but it was a false image, and you didnāt know how āto keep the pretense goingā.
āMy wife tells me I behave awfully as I swear at her and belittle her at work. I really donāt mean to, I have mental health issues, and I am so worried our business will fail. I feel I amā¦ the one holding it all together. I worry so much I lash out with (words) and everyone suffersā¦ Ā I feel so bad about my behaviour, but itās like I have Touretteās with the insults, it happens so fast. I have Ā obsessive compulsive personality disorder for which I am taking medication, and receiving therapy. I donāt see it absolves me at all, the fear of losing control is so overwhelming I abuse everyone I hate myselfā.
You shared that you noticed that you were troubled around 18 years of age (more than 30 years ago) when you had your first serious girlfriend: you didn’t trust her, but the relationship ended- not because of her infidelity- but because of yours. You shared about your parents’ breakup, that it was due to your motherās infidelity. You remember āextreme shouting and swearingā between your parents, which āsounded pretty violentā. They were out a lot at nights, and extended family members looked after you and your siblings.
You shared that you rushed into every situation in your life (āI rushed into every situation that I have found myself in“) with massive consequences to yourself and to others, suchĀ that you feel very guilty about. The reason you rushed: āTo not be alone… Iām just too afraid to be aloneā, that you were afraid to be left alone since you were a child:Ā ālying in bed next to my sister as a child in the dark, wanting someone to talk to. Thatās been the story of my lifeā. I asked you at the time, if you had someone to talk to, what would you say, and you answered: āIād say please donāt leave meā.
Fast forward 2 years and 3 months, you shared yesterday that you are “in a pretty poor state of mind“, “burnt out with stress from every corner of my life. Business, relationship, finances, a completely spent force running on less than fumes”.
You ended your short original post yesterday with: “I have lived a very full on life since I was 18 years old with lots of lifeās experiences I seem to have had everything I wished for and lived all of my dreams… I need to change my habits… Maybe youād all have some ideas for me.“-
– Yes, I have an idea for you: just like you said yesterday (the quote right above), you need to change some of your habits, particularly The Rushing Habit. You need to slow down the emotions rushing through you, the thoughts rushing through your mind, the words rushing through your mouth.
You wrote yesterday that you lived “a very full life“- your life has been full with activity and with some business and financial success, but it’s also been very full with rushing and stress. You wrote yesterday that you seem to have had everything you wished for, that you lived all your dreams, but seems to me that your wish for and dream of a quiet mind and heart is yet to be had.
I am adding below about different religions’ input about rushing, stress and peace of mind for your sake, Simon, for mine, and for anyone who tends to rush, and may be reading this (if because of the copying and pasting, the following will be full of excess print, I will re-submit it for clarity):
faith up. com/ what does the bible say about rushing: “Rushing through life is something many of us can relate to. We live in a fast-paced world where everything seems urgent, but what does the Bible say about always being in a hurry? Letās dive into Scripture to find some answers. One key verse that speaks to the issue of rushing is Proverbs 19:2 (NIV), which warns us, āDesire without knowledge is not goodāhow much more will hasty feet miss the way!ā This proverb tells us that moving too quickly, without proper knowledge or preparation, can lead us astray. Itās a clear caution against the dangers of rushing through decisions or actions without thoughtful consideration. Similarly, Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 reminds us there is āa time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens.ā This passage encourages us to recognize the importance of timing. Thereās a time to move quickly, yes, but thereās also a time to slow down and reflect”.
(ihsan alexander. com/ hadith haste is from shaytan: “When we live lives of haste and rush, we increase the stress burden upon our psyches and also upon our bodies. This then results in both psychological as well as physical imbalances and diseases. Yet when we learn to live from a place of calm and presence, we increase the level of peace, harmony and tranquility we experience in our lives. Consequently, our health becomes more vibrant and vital, we actually become more successful and effective as a result of a clear and focused mind, and even our personal relationships improve and attain greater levels of health and wellbeing. Calm is from God, and haste is from Shaytanā Prophet Muhammad…
“The Divine Presence of God can only be experienced through deep inner stillness and surrender. When we live in a state of haste and rush, we further disconnect ourselves from the Divine Presence of our Lord and Sustainer, and so we become disconnected from Peace, Light, Love, Abundance and Joy”.
medium. com/ why I am not in a hurry and you shouldn’t be either: “In todayās fast-paced world, you often find yourself in a hurry in the hope of achieving quick results… Have you noticed how less of a human you are when you are in a rush? How you could flip off another driver in traffic? How you could brush off your mom on the call? Or snub at your son with the words, ‘Not now, Daddy is in a hurry.’…
“Being in a hurry is not solely a visible action. It is an internal state that comes from the human desire to speed up time in the hope of achieving the result faster. We may also say, it is an internal aggression toward time. In Buddhism, being in a hurry is generally seen as a state of mind that arises from attachment, craving, and a lack of mindfulness. Buddhism teaches that hastiness leads to suffering and a loss of presence in the present moment…Ā People who speed up time drastically lower their energy levels and start getting chronic fatigue and sick… (causing) accelerated aging…
“A rushing person never controls the situation... the one who rushes is the one who is late. Now after reading all the above, you are probably thinking, ok great what shall I do?! āSmile, breathe, and go slowly.ā ~Thich Nhat Hanh. The truth is if you stop rushing, you are far more likely (to) do everything on time! Yep, thatās a contradiction. Rushing and being late are two sides of the same coin. You canāt have one without the other…Ā You must let go of rushing, internally as well as externally. Itās as much a mindset as a behavior that you are letting go of”.
– End of Quotes from online sources.
anita
anitaParticipantThank you, SadSoul for being you! I will reply next Fri morning (Thurs evening here).
anita
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