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Dear Renn:
(I am adding the boldface feature selectively to your quotes): “Even last night we actually did have a massive argument over him calling me stupid. He says he didnât mean that I was stupid, just that I had done a stupid thing. All it was, that I didnât eat much that day because I was stressed. He started calling me childish and saying a bunch of stuff, like how he didnât think we were friends and that we were just bf and gf”-
– he is an ANGRY young man who expresses his anger through name calling and accusations, like a child throwing an anger tantrum, telling you: You are Stupid! You are Childish! You are Not my Friend!
“I really do love him and he is just looking out for me“- do you mean that him calling you names and throwing temper tantrums equals to him looking out for you? Or is it that you really do love him, so you prefer to think of his misbehavior as looking out for you?
“but I donât think he really goes about it in the way I personally would“- you personally do not call him stupid, childish, etc.?
“I hate the whole suspecting thing, it makes me feel like Iâve done something wrong when I haven’t at all… I really care about him“- if you start a relationship with a suspicious man who distrusts you, and you stay long enough, sooner or later, you start distrusting yourself.
“I never really know if I should be listening to my head or my heart and I donât even know if my head and my heart are pointing the same way or not… I probably know how I really feel deep down, but I am really finding it hard to work out what it is that I actually think… I have no idea what my âgut feelingâ actually is telling me“-
– Here are a few possibilities of what your gut is trying to tell you. Please read when you are calm, and let me know if any (or what combination) of the following rings true to you, and elaborate on what feels true to you:
1) I really love him, I don’t want to ever let him go.
2) One day he’ll trust me and being with him will be wonderful.
3) It’d be a dream come true to turn someone who is angry at me, into someone who is loving me.
4) He loves much, no one else will love me that much. He will never leave me.
anita
anitaParticipantDear SadSoul:
“My very best, dominating and controlling friend, well she was just as scared as I was of being alone and unloved… how she demanded from me to affirm herself was selfish and sometimes mean“- a real friend does not demand; a real friend allows a friend the time and freedom to think, to feel, to choose.
“No one has ever wanted to be my friend in such a simple uncomplicated way“- I do.
“I want to know so much more! If only the world were smaller… Need cheesy pizza and mulled wine and fire and your company to help enjoy them all.”– cheese pizza and mulled wine and fire with SadSoul sounds heavenly. If you can, and you would like to, you can submit a post with an email, one that’s safe for you to submit in a public forum (an email created for this purpose perhaps), and I will send an email to the address you provide. This way we can communicate privately. (As I shared before, I am technically/ computer-wise challenged, or disabled, so I don’t know how to do what I am suggesting). You also have the option to ask the website owner (CONTACT under HOME at the top of the page) to delete a particular post in your thread or the whole thread.
Thank you for calling me beautiful, and kind and caring. I am smiling right now, taking in these words, letting them in.
anita
anitaParticipantDear SadSoul:
“I asked for help moving a wardrobe and got told no“- I would have said YES!
“How do I have a friend whoâs there for more than the food?“- I would be such a friend irl! As much as I love my favorite kinds of food (extra-cheese pizza, extra- and I mean ALL cheese, melted), I’d turn my back on the cheese and attend to SadSoul!
“Telling myself we had a nice evening and feeling ungrateful and horrible because the only nice thing for me was their pleasure in the nice food, the rest was just me alone creating that half an hour of pleasure for them”– pleasure is in getting to know SadSoul, the pleasure of knowing each other. I’d leave the food, and focus on you: tell me more about SadSoul, and let me tell you about me.
“Iâm scared…”- I am scared too. I don’t know of anyone who is not scared. Do you know of any person, anywhere, who is not scared?
“Iâm sorry, this is probably confusing, itâs just everything in my heart spilling out.“- SadSoul’s heart spilling out is welcomed here.
anita
June 9, 2024 at 2:51 pm in reply to: Telling the difference between gut and fear in relationships #433624anitaParticipant* I forgot to edit out the sentence “May the chapter of âTelling the difference… come to an end.â from my reply.
June 9, 2024 at 2:47 pm in reply to: Telling the difference between gut and fear in relationships #433623anitaParticipantDear Seaturtle:
I miss our chakras talks, our meetings of crown chakras.
“I feel like CBT will help me, but I am struggling to find a therapist. I am afraid someone will lead me astray and, in my vulnerability, I will be so impressionable“- my 2011-13 therapist was a CBT therapist who incorporated Mindfulness into his practice. I found him by googling CBT (in my location at the time). He offered a free first visit, went way beyond the standard 50 min per session (in the first and following sessions), so, he was the one for me.
“I really appreciate this (heart emoji)“- you are welcome, and thank you, heart emoji back at you!
“I have found a lot of healing energy inside… Brain and Body yoga“- good thing!
âMay the chapter of âTelling the difference between gut and fear in relationshipsâ come to an end.â
“I have hit a major checkpoint within the last week. I have heard and seen N in the last week, he gave my things back, although much thrown away… Last night I deleted our photo album, and then I had a great sleep and woke up better than I went to sleep…Â Today I am throwing away memorabilia from our relationship… I feel a sense of closure, I finally know I never have to see him again“- what a relief it is to read this! It is as if I am you, feeling a great relief to have this unnecessary stress and distress over with, if it is.
“What do you mean by ‘2nd year of life.’“- age 1- 2 years.
âI wonder how much I should expect people near me often, to see me?“- in my experience of recent: if someone outside of me sees me, really sees me as a good, honest person, a likeable person, just one person, I no longer crave to be seen; I was already seen.
anita
anitaParticipantDear Arie:
You are welcome, and thank you for responding to me, it’s nice to be acknowledged!
Since my last reply to you, I do the NPARR strategy just the way I suggested to you, so my advice has been helping me, And, in my last sentence in my last reply: “Redirect my focus to behaving myself in ways I wish others behaved.”- I had a saying in mind but couldn’t come up with the wording. I now remember the saying: “Be the Change You Want to See in the World” (Mahatma Gandhi).
anita
anitaParticipantDear Renn:
Welcome back!
You ended your original post with: “I donât wish to change him in any way I think it might just be a compatibility thing..”
There is a Values Incompatibility between the two of you: you are in no way motivated by money, so you shared, and he is highly motivated by money.
But there is an issue that goes beyond incompatibility, a red flag, seems to me: “He is very jealous by nature, always asking about my ex, and assuming things about me which are completely out of nowhere“-
– this is a problem, isn’t it, to accept or endure the role of Suspect, in a relationship?
anita
anitaParticipantDear SadSoul:
* I am adding this comment after completing this post: it’s a bit scary for me to submit it because I think that I went deeper in this reply than in past replies, and I a afraid that reading this will distress you.. and that you will get offended and angry at me. (I know you told me that you rarely get angry, yet.. well, you know, fear):
I am exhausted and my brain is operating very, very slowly. I read some of your earlier posts, as well as yesterday’s.
First, from Psychology today/ codependency: “Codependency is a dysfunctional relationship dynamic where one person assumes the role of ‘the giver,’ sacrificing their own needs and well-being for the sake of the other, ‘the taker.’ The bond in question doesnât have to be romantic; it can occur just as easily between parent and child, friends, and family members”.
Second, your words (I am adding the boldface feature selectively to the quotes), followed by my thoughts:
“So much life lived… being everything for everyone, and feeling valuable because of that… so engrossed in giving everything I had, and thinking I was loved and appreciated in return”- I think that there used to be a feeling of safety in being the giver, that it felt like the safer/ the less risky option.
“I have always been sensitive to others’ opinions and moods and I fit myself into them, literally turn myself inside out to avoid any negativity or confrontation“- it was safer to .. empty yourself from you.
“Iâm slowly letting go of my motherâs criticisms, one if which is that itâs sinful and selfish to ever buy food out”- from the danger- fear of being selfish to the relative safety-comfort in being self-sacrificing.
“Slowly, I started to see I was being taken advantage of, and not having what I gave returned in any way. Slowly people dumped me because I said no, I canât do that. I have a big empty life now. All the people I loved disappeared and it hurt so much”- there’s a perfect fit between Giver and Taker. You messed up the perfection when you wanted to Take something for yourself: that something being the privilege of saying No.
“Iâm too afraid of asking for help or understanding, or whatever, and being rejected. Iâm afraid of me being who I am in the friendship and that Iâm the problem, that somehow my fear creates in them a righteousness that subconsciously thinks they should take and I should give“-
– the core problem, as I see it now, is your thinking that you are the problem because when you do, the instinctive solution is to put the problem (yourself) away. Being a Giver/ Self-Sacrificing may be the only way for a self-perceived Problem to experience something similar/ parallel to being loved.
I figure that some of the people in your life have been indeed Selfish/ Takers, such as your ex-boyfriend about whom you shared, but not all. In regard to those who are not Selfish, such as your son (seems to me), the reasons he “left unexpectedly” (title of your thread) are a few, like we talked about. The only part of the problem that you own, seems to me, is you being a self-sacrificing Giver/ Codependent.
It is scary to change from Giver to .. Giver and Taker.
anita
anitaParticipantYou are welcome, SadSoul. I am reading your yesterday’s post right now, and will reply shortly.
anita
anitaParticipantHow are you, Â Lily Margarette?
anita
June 9, 2024 at 6:13 am in reply to: Past Hurts & Present Concerns: Advice Needed for a Stronger Bond #433611anitaParticipantHow are you, HenryNahNg?
anita
anitaParticipantDear SadSoul:
I’ve been out and about for almost 11 hours, worked hard labor for a few hours (not for pay), hours of activity otherwise, and now about to have my 3rd glass of wine, what a day! I read a couple of paragraphs, and unfocused, perspiring (hot here today), and will read and reply Sun morning (Sat afternoon here). What I did read is sad, hence Sad Soul. Just sad to read, but not sadder than how I felt so much of my life, back to you tomorrow.
anita
anitaParticipantDear SadSoul:
I found the time to go to a computer (not at home) and will be able to check if you reply. Please tell me how you are feeling today/ tonight, and what brought about yesterday’s despair?
anita
anitaParticipantDear SadSoul: I am Sad that you are Sad. You did something outside of your comfort zone- maybe it’s a good thing that you did, and it’s just that you feel too.. uncomfortable/ shaken to realize it’s a good thing. Be back to you Sun or Mon.
anita
anitaParticipantDear SadSoul:
I am so sorry you feel in the depths of despair..!! I have to get up at 5:30 am tomorrow and be out and about, not being by the computer till sometime Sun or Mon. Sorry.. please be good to SadSoul!
anita
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