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    Ai
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    Dear all,

    First of all I am sorry for my English as I am not native speaker and thank you for reading my story.

    I would like to know opinion/advice as I am in pain and don’t know what to do.

    I have been with my boyfriend for 5 years. He is Asian and I am European. We live together in Europe. Past 6 months were very rocky between us. We argued a lot and I became a bit paranoid if he is really serious about our relationship. I am in age ( mid 30s ) when I want children and marriage (he is 4 years younger) but mature. I have not met his parents but I met his sister and aunt and his parents know about our relationship. My family accepted him immediately. Approximately 6 moths ago he told me that he must live with his parents. I was surprised because when we started dating he told me that his parents are not strict and that he can be with whom he chooses to be. He doesn’t have good relations with them and he told me that it will be big challenge for him to live with them but it is something he cannot change. There are also other things that popped up during our discussion and I was very surprised he did not tell me before that are so important for him – mostly their cultural traditions that his wife should follows and which some of them I am probably not able to accept. Past months we argued and discussed these things but couldn’t get to agreement. There is huge pressure from his parents as they expect him to take care of his siblings and them. He said that he owes his parents because they supported him and he was able to come to Europe and now he must live with them and take care of them. I told him I don’t want him to abandon his parents which means that he will end our relationship because I am not willing to follow him to his country. I told him that I don’t have an idea what is life like over there, how are his parents and if they would accept me because he never took me there. He got mad and told me that he needs someone who will not hesitate to follow him anywhere and doesn’t require to see it first.

    This week he left to live with his sister and told me we must have a break from each other because we argue all the time. He wants me to think about all the things we talked – about bad living conditions in his country and so on. He said it is not life I expected for myself and for my  (our ) kids and that he doesn’t wanna ruin my life. He said we must act rationally and not be blinded by love.

    I am in pain and confused since he left and I don’t wanna loose him but I feel like he completely lost interest in our relationship.

    I did not contact him for 3 days but I am not able to eat and do regular things normally.

    I would be just grateful for opinion / advice on the situation. Thank you very much!

     

     

    #287023
    Inky
    Participant

    Hi Ai,

    Cultural traditions are very strong. It sounds like it was OK for him to be modern and independent when he was young, but now that he’s older…

    It sounds like he wants you to break up.

    Would he marry you if you said, “YES! In fact I will move across the world and have our children live in poverty if it means being with you!”..?

    I suggest you cut bait and fairly immediately get in a serious relationship with a new person if you want kids.

    Best,

    Inky

    #287025
    Mark
    Participant

    Ai,

    I agree with Inky.

    You have been with this man for 5 years.  It appears that you did not have an open, honest, and close relationship otherwise he would have told you how important his cultural traditions are, how he expected you to obey him and follow him anywhere, or even have taken you to meet his parents during those 5 years together.

    You can love him from a distance as a friend but as a long term partner who respects you and thinks of you as a true partner, he has proven that he is not the one.

    Right now you are reeling from this turnabout from the man you thought you knew during those 5 years and emotionally distraught.   Kick in your rational mind for that will give you a clearer perspective.  Your ex boyfriend is correct in saying that not only his country is not right for you but being tied to him is not right for you either.

    Mark

    #287061
    Ai
    Participant

    Dear Inky,

    Thank you for your reply and advice.

    He said before we take serious steps in our relationship we need to resolve these issues.

    Also he said that he doesn’t know how to make everyone satisfied and that he was thinking to go to therapist.

    Last I saw him I asked him what he wants from me and if he wants to break up permanently he should tell me right away and not telling me we need a break.

    He said he wants me to move with him to his country but he knows he can’t ask this from me as I would be unhappy with his family and their requirements.

    I feel like he did not even give me a chance to meet his culture.

     

     

     

    #287067
    Ai
    Participant

    Dear Mark,

    Thank you for your reply.

    You are right I will have to move on and forget. I think something changed during past year because he was not so radical about his parents and culture before. But he wasn’t honest and when I think about it he didn’t talk to me openly when I asked him where is our relationship heading many times. He said he wants me in his future and have a family with me but did not act like that.

    Thank you, Ai

     

     

     

     

    #287073
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Ai:

    You wrote: “I feel like he did not even give me a chance to meet his culture”-

    – it is a nice word, “culture” when it comes to traditional foods and a family sitting together having a traditional meal in a home decorated in a certain traditional way. But when culture is about parents raising their children (usually older son, if I understand correctly) as investments, so that when their children are of a certain age, they will take care of their parents forevermore, then it is about parents owning their children for life, investing and reaping their return-on-investment.

    “There is a huge pressure from his parents as they expect him to take care of his siblings and them. He said that he owes his parents..”- that is what they instilled in him, that he owes them.

    I suppose he enjoyed a temporary freedom from being owned by his parents when he lived in Europe and now he must “live with them and take care of them”

    “He said it is not life I expected for myself and for (our) kids and that he doesn’t wanna ruin my life… He said he wants me to move with him to his country but he knows he can’t ask this from me as I would be unhappy with his family and their requirements”- I think he is correct. He knows that you will be unhappy with his family and their requirements because he is unhappy with his family and their requirements.

    And I believe he is correct, that you will be unhappy living with his family, seeing how unhappy he is, for one. Basically the two of you and your children will be owned by his parents. He will be financing his parents and his siblings as he lives with you and your children, less money for you and your children.

    Maybe he was hoping throughout the years in Europe that this will not be his future, maybe he put it out of his mind best he could. It is not a future that he wanted!

    My suggestion: if you can’t convince him (without arguing) to stay in Europe with you, to free himself from this burdensome, horrible ownership, this familial slavery aka culture, then let him go. What else can you do.. his guilt and sense of owing-his-parents is just too strong.

    But living with him and with his family, that is not a life a free person would choose, only a person raised to believe it has to be done.

    anita

     

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