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    Inky
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    Hi miniaturebodhisattva,

    I was in a similar situation, but you are move evolved than me ~ I was the one that never went back to the temple!! It was too painful. To this day I cringe when I finally went back there or think about it.

    Good for you to keep going there! Hopefully with time (and ironically the temple’s teaching) everyone will “get over it”. Someone wrote once, which really resonated with me, something like: “Frequent, (yet occasional), brief, normal exchanges go a long way towards making things better”.

    So the next time you see him at temple, YOU go up or make eye contact, smile, and say, “Hi! Nice to see you!” and then turn and talk to someone else/go to the restroom/do other things. This will eventually “re-set” the energies to neutral.

    Hope this helps!

    Blessings,

    Inky

    • This reply was modified 8 years, 9 months ago by Inky.
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    #109222
    Anonymous
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    Dear miniaturebodhisattva:

    The ex friend’s assertion that you do not contact him – you have to respect that very clear assertion: “leave me alone” and “Don’t ever contact me again.”

    These are the last words he communicated to you, therefore they are still in effect. If you initiate contact with him by smiling at him or speaking to him, you are disrespecting his assertion and that is wrong to do. See, his assertion is reasonable, to not wanting contact. It is not unreasonable or abusive.

    He was obviously very distressed when he said those things but he meant them. If he didn’t mean them he would have sent you a different message in the year that passed since and he would have approached you at the temple this last time you saw him. (He was distressed I am guessing because he feels very uncomfortable with tears, with clingy emotions and the Buddhist principle of detachment and non-clinginess is probably very, very attractive to him. Him being gone from the temple for a whole year indicates to me how indeed distressed he was).

    So, I wouldn’t smile to him or talk to him unless he smiles and talks to you first (and then it is your choice whether to reciprocate or not). Of course if you did want to scare him away from the temple, the thing for you to do would be to talk to him, smile to him and be as friendly and even romantic with him… but that would be an evil plan, and I wouldn’t do it.

    As to how you can endure this distraction, this occupation that is not congruent with the teachings and spirit of the temple? Use it as an opportunity to grow, to heal. First accept how you feel when he is there and in between, wondering if he will show up next or not. Accept it every time and take deep breaths, calm yourself, return to calm again and again. He is a distraction just like any other distraction during meditation. Deal with it the same way.

    anita

    #109271

    Thank you anita and Inky for taking the time to answer my question! I really do appreciate it.

    Inky: I’m so sorry you had to go through a similar experience. You’re kind to say I’m more “evolved”, but I assure you that’s not the case. While I did go back to the temple (and on the trip we had scheduled, just by myself), it wasn’t always necessarily out of a place of strength, but sometimes more from a fear of regret. (By the way, I don’t think anyone should blame themselves for avoiding a place that brings back painful memories. We all heal in our own ways!)

    anita: You are right that all of this, difficult as it may be, is a huge opportunity to grow and learn. I did scare him off with my tears, and it showed me how I still have a ways to go in learning to control my emotions and show more equanimity when I’m upset.

    #109289
    Anonymous
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    Dear miniaturebodhisattiva:

    I disagree with your conclusion that you “still have a ways to go in learning to control (your) emotions”- that is that your crying to this guy was a mistake. Strongly disagree. I will explain: there was nothing abusive about your crying. You felt sadness, frustration and so you cried. Nothing wrong with it. He didn’t like it AND there was nothing wrong about your crying. His discomfort with it stems not from him being … above such emotions but by his problems with emotions.

    Like I wrote, the concept of detachment probably appeals to him a whole lot. It is a good principle to practice … in moderation (another Buddhist principle, Moderation). We can’t divorce ourselves from having emotions, no matter how detached we try to be; neither is it healthy to be divorced from our emotions.

    anita

    #109349

    Thank you anita for the follow up note! Your words have brought me a lot of comfort.

    #109394
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear miniaturebodhisattva:

    You are welcome. Aligning our thinking with the truth, with reality as is, does bring comfort. It is another Buddhist principle, isn’t it?- seeing reality as it is, the bare minimum, without the layers of delusions, distorted thinking.

    anita

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