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  • #330069
    Lola
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    Dear All,

    Thank you for having me . It’s been a rather traumatic year and I haven’t coped very well. My partner and I split up for six months two years ago and got back together . When we split up I told him his behaviour had been abusive and unacceptable. He rarely took responsibility for his behaviour and when I pointed it out he’d say I was attacking him . When we got back together we went counselling and things were going rather smoothly for a while . When we split up I took up a hobby I fell in love with which really helped me. During the counseling, the counsellor would ask why I don’t invite him to join me in my hobby as a way for us to spend more time together. I was really reluctant as I saw that space as my sanctuary and wasn’t keen on inviting the person that had hurt me do badly into the place I felt the safest. I reluctantly agreed even though I really didn’t want to . But as my partner was making the effort I decided I should too .

    At the hobby I found myself very annoyed he was there . I enjoyed being invisible in the room but he seemed to feel the need to get to know everyone and everything. He loved being the centre of attention, I hated it especially as he started taking private lessons . I felt like he had taken over my space . He was all smiles and sweet and I felt resentful because questions like , why couldn’t you be like that in the first place ? And why can’t you see how much you’ve hurt me ? And , just because you’re ready to be good you want me to be ? There was a lot of resentment and I think trauma and I tried explaining that maybe I was suffering PTSD.

    I found out I was pregnant and later had a miscarriage. I threw myself into work where I discovered illegal activities and allowed it to consume my time . My partner and I argued More and more and I became the monster . I started behaving like he used to treat me but I couldn’t seem to stop . I am so ashamed of my behaviour.

    When work got less busy and consuming I think I had a nervous breakdown. I took time off work and I am having counselling and medication .

    For three months I felt like something had changed and I kept asking him if he was chatting or seeing someone. He said no and started saying I don’t trust him . Three weeks ago we decided to end things it was amicable as he was finding it difficult to forgive me. On my way out I said I know you’re seeing someone or chatting with someone as I can feel it in my gut .he said why did I have to go soil it.

    Later that evening about two hours later I saw him in the town centre carpark offering a woman his arm after getting out his truck. I can’t say I was surprised because I’ve suspected for three months .

    I went up to them and introduced myself to her and asked her if she knew me . She said no . I asked her if she was sleeping with him she said no only talking I asked how long she said three months . I said we’ve been engaged for a year together five years and he’s claiming you’re his friend ? How comes I don’t know about you if you’re just a friend and you don’t know about me ? The woman then left and said she was going home . I said good luck you’ll need it as it appears he’s a pathological liar ! I was hurt and angry !!

    He went after her and said thanks for that I said you’re welcome . He came back saying she’s his friend . I asked since when ? He said he was taking her to meet her boyfriend I said then why was she holding onto you like that ?

    I said why didn’t her boyfriend pick her up and she had said that that’s the first time they’d come out . I said oh, first date was it ? He said it was no date and never will be .

    He said he wanted to get back together and we should talk but I feel all talked out. I feel like I should just block him and just walk away . No talking no explanation, just disappear. I keep wondering if he’s still with her ? If she really was a friend ! Was I wrong ? I feel like he’s lying and being deceitful and dishonest .

    Sorry it’s so long .

    Thank you

    SW

     

    #330079
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Lola:

    I am sorry you had such a difficult year. I hope the fast approaching new year will be a much better year for you. Reads to me that you need to put this relationship in the past, leave it in 2019 and move on to 2020 without him. The relationship is too sick to heal, and not worth more of your time and effort put into it, because the two of you don’t share children (or property, assuming you don’t).

    It will be easier and more promising if you heal individually and later on in the coming year, choose a more compatible man, choose wisely and proceed from there.

    anita

    #330081
    Valora
    Participant

    First I want to say  I think it was wrong of your counselor to suggest that you bring your partner to your hobby. A person needs to have their own things they enjoy separate from their partner because it helps to maintain individuality, and that was your sanctuary, so of course you were going to feel like he invaded it and build resentment, especially since he seems to have a much more outgoing personality (which is not better or worse in most cases but is worse when someone just wants to be unnoticed and enjoy what they’re doing). That was terrible advice. There are PLENTY of hobbies out there that you two could’ve done, so what should have been suggested is that you two try new things until you find a hobby you both enjoy doing together. If you ever do get back together… go try new things and let each of our favorite hobbies remain your favorite hobbies alone, without the other.

    Anyway, so you say you began to act the way he was acting and couldn’t help yourself, right? This doesn’t make either of your behavior okay, but it should at least help you with the pain of feeling hurt by what he did, because when you experience the other side of things, it can help you to understand it. Perhaps he was also dealing with things internally that were making him feel angry, anxious, and resentful that were making him treat you in a way he shouldn’t have been… and these wouldn’t even have to be about you. Sometimes when we’re dealing with stressors that we can’t control, it affects all of our other relationships and that can cause us to treat the people closest to us badly, even when we’re not mad at them in particular. So use your memory of the monster you became to forgive both him and yourself for the pain you’d felt previously from him being the same monster to you so that you may release that pain.

    With that said… I’m not saying you should forgive and get back with him. Forgive to release the pain you feel, but I also think you need to trust your gut on this one. It told you something was going on for 3 months and it was confirmed when the girl told you they’d been talking for 3 months. He may not have technically cheated physically, but there may be something emotional going on there and it sounds like he’d misled the girl as well, otherwise why would she leave and go home if he were taking her to meet her boyfriend? That makes no sense. I have plenty of guy friends and in that scenario, I would’ve reassured the girl myself that nothing was going on, we’re just friends, and he gave me a ride to see my boyfriend for whatever reason and then I’d go off to see my boyfriend rather than going home. So his story doesn’t check out in this case, and I think you have reason to feel that he was being deceitful and dishonest, at least partially. Maybe it’s true that he didn’t cheat, but the story he told you was not a story that made sense.

    If you feel like you should block him and just walk away…. do that. You two have already done the breakup, said your goodbyes, and whether he wants to get back together or not, if you don’t… there is absolutely nothing wrong with just disappearing without explanation. You two aren’t together and you don’t owe him anything anymore. And a relationship with him won’t work anyway if you don’t feel like you can trust him and are still feeling extremely hurt by the past, so it may be better to just cut ties so that you can move on and heal.

    #330083
    Lola
    Participant

    Hi Anita,

    Thank you so much for your advice . Thoughts of leaving it all behind me has be plaguing my mind these past few weeks .

    Should I just disappear ? Send an email ? I’m scared I think to let go fully . One part of me thinks … we’ve been through so much the other hand I think well so much is enough . He hurt me I hurt him he hurt me and on and on it goes .

    Thank you

    SW

    #330089
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Lola:

    You are welcome. I don’t think it matters much how you break up with him, as long as you make it safe for you, and as easy as possible. An email will be fine, and after the email you can block him if you want, whatever is easier for you. I don’t think you need to explain much to him, make it short and sincere.

    You wrote “we’ve been through so much”, reads like it, yes, but the two of you didn’t come out of all that “so much” as two better and improved individuals. You came out of it sick.

    This is why you need to heal individually, leaving him behind in 2019.

    anita

    #330091
    Lola
    Participant

    Hi Valora,

    Thank you too for your reply.

    Yes, I understand how he feels, how conflicting his emotions are . I understand the turmoil that has been going on inside of him and now my mind is clear I can see so much better and I have been patient when he’s pushed me away and pulled me back because I understand as I have been there .

    I am ashamed to put someone in the position I was in . It was destructive and unhealthy and maybe I dug my own grave in making him turn to someone else .

    Then he is a grown man, responsible for his decisions and should I blame myself ? I asked for honesty. I said I know things haven’t been great and if he’s seeing or talking to someone just please tell me . He’d get angry say I don’t trust him and that I was questioning his integrity . If I assumed he’d say he hate my assumptions, if I asked questions he’d say he hates my thousand questions.

    I hurt .

    Lola

     

    #330093
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Lola:

    I don’t know if you read my second post to you, my reply to your post to me?

    To further make my point: the reason I think you should not continue this relationship is not because of considerations of who’s-the-bad-guy in what happened (clearly the two of you contributed to this relationship not working for you), but because you need to heal individually – continuing a sick relationship will make your individual healing very difficult and maybe impossible.

    Does this make sense to you?

    anita

    #330097
    Valora
    Participant

    I am ashamed to put someone in the position I was in . It was destructive and unhealthy and maybe I dug my own grave in making him turn to someone else .

    Then he is a grown man, responsible for his decisions and should I blame myself ? I asked for honesty. I said I know things haven’t been great and if he’s seeing or talking to someone just please tell me . He’d get angry say I don’t trust him and that I was questioning his integrity . If I assumed he’d say he hate my assumptions, if I asked questions he’d say he hates my thousand questions.

    I hurt .

    No, I don’t think you should blame yourself. He made his own choices. You cannot push someone into someone else’s arms if they are loyal, no matter what you do, so he has shown you that he is not loyal or, at the very least, hasn’t been completely honest with either you or the girl he was “talking to.” I think you need to forgive him for his treatment and forgive yourself for doing the same, because forgiving both will help you to release the pain you feel, and then move on. He was not treating you in a way that you liked, so it would be better to cut ties with him, move on, and find someone who treats you in a way that you like.

    I also don’t think you actually owe even him an email, especially if you’re still broken up. Unless sending one would help you to feel better, but I would keep it short and simple.

    #330101
    Lola
    Participant

    Hi Anita,

    You are right . We’re both ill and need to heal and I can’t do it if I’m with him . It’s a tragedy as we started out wanting to be the best we could be for each other and ended up tearing each other apart .

    Valora, I forgive him and I am slowly beginning to forgive myself .

    I don’t think I’ll send an email as I started it bit it got too long . I will just text him a few words…maybe something like . Thank you I’m sorry goodbye I forgive you .

    Thank you all for your kind and honest replies, I truly appreciate it.

    Lola

    #330105
    Anonymous
    Guest

    You are welcome, Lola. Post again anytime you would like to. I will be glad to read from you and reply to you.

    anita

    #330189
    Lola
    Participant

    Hi Anita,

    Thank you .

    It’s been a rather painful year and I’m looking forward to kissing it goodbye.

    How do I start to heal ? How do I get well again , if I ever was to begin with ? I feel like I need to rush to feel better soon as these emotions and the pain overwhelm me but I know it’s a process I need to go through in order to come out the other side .

    Any advice on how to help myself would be most welcome .

    Thank you

    Lola

     

    #330209
    DoUremember
    Participant

    Hi Lola,

     

    I am really sorry that happened. And I understand that you’re hurt. He invaded your private space, and seems not to care about how you feel or what you think about it. When your gut tells you something, it’s often right. I think it was really brave of you to stand up for yourself and walk their way. You have a voice too and you do matter! She might didn’t know about the two of you and she was just as surprised as you was. It’s him that needs to learn that eating from two plates isn’t the way to get Full-filled. I’ve been in your situation myself a few years ago so I know what you’re going through. He doesn’t deserve your love or your loyalty. I think you do the right thing by blocking him, even if it hurts. other wise you’re staying in this position. Don’t be afraid to never fall in love again. There are good men out there, who does know your worth and threat you the way you should be threaten. It’s gonna be hard, but you’ll manage. You did before when the two of you broke up. By the looks of it you’re capable of being rational. It’s that Mind VS Heart that sucks at times. But you’ll get over it, I know you will.

     

    I wish you all the best, love and wisdom for the next periode that’s coming your way. Stay strong and if you want to let it al out, then do it. Or write it off your chest, we will be here to support you.

    Love,

    Me

    #330251
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Lola:

    You are welcome.

    “How do I start to heal.. I feel like I need to rush to feel better soon as these emotions and the pain overwhelm me”.

    When I attended psychotherapy I experienced lots of strong, overwhelming emotions. My therapist at the time introduced me to the professional terms “emotional regulation”, and “emotional regulation skills” which are a necessary part of therapy. We can’t think straight when we are emotionally overwhelmed. First, we have to lower that overwhelm factor, that is, to lessen/ regulate our emotions.

    Practically, emotional regulations skills (you can probably google that) include healthy distractions, such as taking a walk outside when you feel overwhelmed, deciding on and practicing a daily routine that includes an exercise routine; listening to soft music when distressed, having a hot bath… listening to guided meditations with the Mindfulness theme (each starts with slow breathing, a relaxing practice), Slow yoga where you hold this or that posture for a while (it leads you to sort of take the elevator down from the overthinking brain down to your body, a break from overthinking is relaxing!

    It is necessary to regulate our emotions on a daily basis. And as we do, we can think effectively, gain needed insight, form goals, small ones, and patiently proceed.

    In your original post you listed the following distressing happenings:

    1. a troubled relationship: him abusing you, a split, a getting back together, ineffective communication between you and him, a counsellor’s poor advice that you invite him to your hobby and sanctuary, a pregnancy and a miscarriage, increasing of arguing, you perhaps abusing him (“I became the monster”),  and feeling ashamed about it,  illegal activities at your workplace, suspecting he was seeing another woman for three whole months while he vehemently denied that he was, and then seeing him offering his arm to a woman who was getting out of his truck, then you confronting them and he denying again and wanting to get back together with you.

    2. illegal activities in your workplace.

    This is it, I think, all that you mentioned. Did you notice how #1 is long and detailed and #2 is not. This means to me that the relationship was your number 1 stressor by far. And so, yes, leaving it behind is wise.

    You mentioned PTSD, based on all of the events you listed, that is the relationship plus the illegal activities in your workplace, or is there something else?

    Also, are you employed at the moment?

    (You are welcome to reply without answering my questions, I would like you to feel comfortable).

    anita

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