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January 24, 2026 at 10:28 am #454490
anitaParticipantDear Milda:
This is what Copilot had to say about what you shared above (I did not feed Copilot with my quoted input above, only with your quotes, and without the dates- so for Copilot all that you shared, you shared at one time):
What youâve described, Milda, is not a âsmall issue,â and itâs not a matter of simply âbeing too nice.â Itâs the story of someone who grew up in an environment where emotional neglect, unpredictability, and parentification shaped your entire nervous system.
The reactions you are havingâpanic, guilt, the sense of being âa bad daughter,â the feeling that youâve committed some kind of moral crime by setting boundariesâare not signs that youâre doing something wrong. Theyâre signs that youâre finally doing something different.
Let me walk through the core pieces of what you shared and reflect them back to you in a way that might help you see the architecture of whatâs happening inside you.
đż 1. Your childhood trained your nervous system to equate safety with self-erasure- You werenât just âhelpful.â You were required to monitor the emotional weather of the adults around you in order to survive. Thatâs not a personality traitâitâs a survival adaptation.
A parent with a drinking problem; a mother who was overwhelmed, unavailable, and emotionally inconsistent; a home where your needs were not met, and where expressing them led to guilt, dismissal, or punishment. In this environment, a child learns: âMy feelings are dangerous.â, âMy needs cause conflict.â, âIf I take up space, someone gets upset.â, âIf I fix their problems, maybe things will finally be calm.â
Your body learned to scan, soothe, anticipate, and fix because that was the only way to feel even a little bit safe. This is why your reaction to your motherâs text was physical. Your body remembers the old rules even when your mind is trying to rewrite them.
đż 2. The guilt you feel is not moral guiltâitâs conditioned guilt- Youâre not feeling guilt because you did something wrong. Youâre feeling guilt because you broke a lifelong pattern. Your parents trained youâintentionally or notâto believe: Your worth = your usefulness, Your role = emotional caretaker, Your needs = selfish, Their emotions = your responsibility, Their unhappiness = your failure.
So, when you donât jump into the caretaker role, your nervous system interprets it as danger.
That âI murdered someone and hid the bodyâ feeling?- Thatâs what happens when a person breaks a trauma-bonded role. Itâs the body screaming, âThis is unfamiliar. This is unsafe. Go back to the old pattern.â
But unfamiliar is not the same as wrong.
đż 3. You were parentified, not supported- You werenât just âa good daughter.â You were placed in the role of emotional regulator, mediator, therapist, peacekeeper, buffer, fixer
And in return, you received: emotional neglect, dismissal, guilt-tripping, conditional affection, criticism, invalidation
This is why you feel âunseenâ and ânot human.â You were treated as a function, not a child.
đż 4. Your motherâs sadness and fatherâs coldness still activate the old survival script- When your mother says, âYour father isnât talking to me,â she is not just sharing information. She is pulling the same lever she has always pulled: âI am unhappy. Fix it.â
Your body reacts as if youâre still a child trapped in that environment.
But youâre not. Youâre an adult now, and youâre allowed to step out of the role they assigned you.
đż 5. The pause you took was healthyâand terrifying: You did something incredibly brave: You paused. You didnât jump into the rescuer role. You didnât absorb her emotional burden. You didnât abandon yourself.
And your body panicked because it has never experienced that before.
This is what healing looks like in the beginning: Calm on the outside, chaos on the inside.
đż 6. The loneliness you feel is realâand it makes sense: When someone has spent their entire life being useful instead of being known, stepping back feels like stepping into a void. Youâre not just losing a role. Youâre losing the only identity you were ever allowed to have. Of course, it feels empty. Of course you donât know what hobbies you like. Of course, friendships feel foreign. Of course, self-worth feels theoretical.
Youâre not failing. Youâre starting from scratch.
đż 7. âHow do I build self-esteem in healthy ways?â- Self-esteem doesnât come from affirmations or forcing yourself to âfeel worthy.â It comes from lived experience. Here are the building blocks:
a) Doing things because you want to, not because theyâre useful- Even tiny things count: choosing what you want to eat, choosing how you spend 10 minutes, choosing a show you like, Choosing rest without justification
These are acts of reclaiming your humanity.
b) Practicing boundaries in small, low-stakes ways-
Not with your parents at first. With yourself. With daily life. With small decisions.
c) Letting your nervous system learn that nothing catastrophic happens when you donât fix others- This is slow work. But every time you donât jump in, your body learns a new rule.
d) Being around people who donât need you to perform- This might take time. But even one neutral, non-demanding interaction can start rewiring things.
e) Allowing yourself to exist without being productive- This is the hardest part for someone who grew up like you.
đż 8. The âworst daughterâ feeling is a trauma echo, not a truth-
* Youâre not a bad daughter. Youâre a daughter who was never allowed to be a child.
* Youâre not abandoning your parents. Youâre stepping out of a role that harmed you.
* Youâre not doing something cruel. Youâre doing something necessary.
And the fact that it feels wrong is evidence of how deeply the old pattern was carvedânot evidence that the new pattern is wrong.
đż 9. What youâre experiencing is the beginning of individuation- This is the stage where a person: recognizes the dysfunction, steps back, feels guilt, fear, and confusion, questions everything, feels alone, feels like theyâre doing something terrible, keeps going anyway.
This is the part where your old self is dissolving and your new self hasnât formed yet. Itâs disorienting.
Itâs painful. Itâs necessary.đż 10. A gentle thought to hold onto- You didnât choose this role. It was assigned to you. And now youâre choosing something else. Thatâs not betrayal. Thatâs healing.
Copilot
January 24, 2026 at 12:02 pm #454491
anitaParticipant* I want to develop this inquiry further at a later time (I am using my phone đą and don’t have access to a computer or AI).
For now, what’s clearer to me is that the ways we felt a bit safer as children (self erasure, focusing on the parent, etc.) was the only available strategy (automatic, instinctual) at the time, but in adulthood it’s totally dysfunctional.
So, it’s about shifting strategy (through active awareness) so to become functional in a world đ where in parts, is way better than the world we grew up in (childhood home).
A world where I can be me, a world where I am not punished for being me: for saying NO, for CHOOSING, for stating, for being authentically, truly me.
đ¤ đ AnitaÂł
January 25, 2026 at 6:58 pm #454539
anitaParticipantDear Milda:
I don’t know if you are reading my latest posts here, and I don’t know (if you’re reading) if you’ll respond. But you did take a break of almost 2 years in between responding, so you may again.
The way you expressed yourself here, in your thread, is so insightful đ that it encourages me at this time, rereading your words, to understand myself better.
Emotional Neglect and Parentification are two things we have in common.
The parent (my mother, your mother) was not equipped to be a parent. Not emotionally. They were lost “children”, too lost, too immature, too self-focused to attune to their children (me, you),
In your case, your father was “stone”, invalidating; in my case, he was absent mostly, divorced when I was 6.
Back to our respective mothers: they never lived up to their roles as Mothers đŠ.
They didn’t provide calm and confident guidance. Oh, no. They were in need of guidance themselves, weak, fragile (and in my case, đ angry, vengeful as well).
So, we- children- had to .. guide them, mother them, soothe them, do our best to parent them.
And in that endeavor we had to put ourselves on hold, to focus on her until such time that she “grows up” and becomes able to parent us, Finally.
Which didn’t happen and we’re left alone, frozen as children, fast-forwarded as adults with a huge GAP in- between.
I will continue later.
đ¤ Anita
January 25, 2026 at 7:18 pm #454540
anitaParticipantContinued sooner than later:
Only my mother đŠ (understandably) didn’t view me as her guide. I was only a child. She didn’t value me that way.
It was only in my view that I could have been her guide. It was my delusion, my false, wishful, magical belief.
So, I kept “guiding” her, and she kept ignoring and dismissing my “guidance”.
She, my mother, she never looked up to me.. I was only a child, a child who mistakenly thought she was an adult.
More later.
đ¤ đŠ â¨ď¸ Anita
January 25, 2026 at 7:39 pm #454541
anitaParticipantLater, lol đ, no really, it’s becoming clear to me- for the first time in my life- that it’s not my mother’s fault that she didn’t have confidence in the guidance of her daughter. She needed the guidance of an adult, none that was available to her, or none that she trusted.
So, my efforts to guide her were misguided, the delusion of a truly powerless child.
I have a new understanding of the child that I was: so truly powerless that I had to imagine that I had power I didn’t have: to guide her, to help her, to fix her.. ha-ha, not a chance
I think this is it for tonight. Be back tomorrow.
â¨ď¸ Anita
January 25, 2026 at 7:58 pm #454542
anitaParticipantWait, so, I really was powerless. I didn’t fail because I didn’t have a chance to succeed. I only imagined I did.
I was truly powerless. This means I didn’t fail.
I didn’t fail my mother. I loved her so very much, I tried my best, it’s just that my best could never, ever been good-enough. It was just impossible.
đ¤ Anita
January 26, 2026 at 9:53 am #454565
anitaParticipantDear Milda:
This is my final post in your thread (unless you revisit and post here again).
My experience: I was shaped by Childhood Chronic Emotional Neglect, Ongoing Emotional Abuse and the FawnâBased Survival Strategy that being chronic and ongoing, led to severe self-erasure.
My body learned long ago: âMother upset = danger.â, “I am upsetting her= I must disappear.â.
I have carried Conditioned, Programmed Guilt, not moral guilt. I was trained to believe that when she feels badly, it means, I am âbadâ, and my job was to become “good” by making her feel good. My nervous system interpreted boundaries with her as wrongdoing, as me being “bad”. So, I didn’t for so long that I was no longer aware of my boundaries.
My identity became fused with making her happy: âI am only valuable if I make her happy”.
I didnât know who I was outside my dream to make her happy â which is why I had no hobbies, no sense of preference, and no friendships, and why I often felt inauthentic when interacting with people.. too eager to please.
I experienced Enmeshment Trauma- her emotions were like obligations, commands, emergencies. I was never allowed to have emotional boundaries, so saying ânoâ felt dangerous, disappointing someone feels catastrophic, my mother’s sadness felt like my failure. I felt guilty for having my own life, so I didn’t. This is classic enmeshment.
Her shaming, guilt-tripping and harshly critical voice became internalized.
I was stuck in an âidentity voidâ stage of healing for a decade after I cut contact with her. I felt guilty.
When someone stops performing the role they were assigned in childhood, they enter a period where the old identity is gone, the new identity hasnât formed. This is the in-between stage of individuation.
My biggest psychological theme has been The Fawn Response as my Primary Survival Strategy. A fawn response is a Traumaâbased Survival Strategy where someone copes with fear, conflict, or emotional threat by peopleâpleasing, appeasing, or overâaccommodating others to stay safe. Itâs one of the four common trauma responses: Fight, Flight, Freeze and Fawn.
The fawn response develops when a child learns that the safest way to avoid emotional harm is to stay agreeable, avoid conflict, meet othersâ needs immediately, suppress one own’s needs, keep the peace at all costs, say yes when one wants to say no, avoid expressing preferences, try to âfixâ othersâ emotions, fearing disappointing or upsetting anyone, losing one’s sense of identity because one is always adapting.
It usually forms in environments where a parent was unpredictable or emotionally immature, conflict felt dangerous, love or approval was conditional, the child had to manage the parentâs emotions and had learned that their own needs caused trouble. In those situations, being compliant becomes a way to stay safe. Itâs a learned survival strategy that once protected the person but can make adult relationships confusing or exhausting.
It’s the nervous system is saying: âIf I keep you happy, I wonât get hurt.â
Selfâerasure is when someone gradually loses touch with one own’s preferences, boundaries, identity, desires, one own’s voice
Itâs not just suppressing needs â itâs forgetting they exist.
If someone fawns for years â especially starting in childhood â the brain learns: âMy needs donât matter.â, âMy feelings cause problems.â, âIâm only safe when I disappear.â, âI exist to keep others stable.â
Over time, the person stops noticing their own inner world. They become whoever the situation needs them to be. Thatâs selfâerasure.
Fawning = survival strategy Selfâerasure = longâterm consequence
If someone realizes theyâre fawning, they can still reconnect with themselves. If someone realizes theyâve erased themselves, the work becomes rebuilding identity, learning preferences, practicing boundaries, and so on.
đ¤ Anita
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