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    To Add, when I spoke to his cousin since she knows about what happened and didn’t really want to be involved in his personal business:

    “I know it’s harsh but i think he made it pretty clear that he doesn’t want to have anything to do with you anymore. Just concentrate then.. On living your life without him…Meet new friends.” (I’ve met and made a lot of new friends)

    When I asked if he would eventually agree to meet and reconcile:

    “That’s up to him. You can hope all you want but you have to accept the harsh truth that for right now, he doesn’t want anything to do with you.”

    2008-Present

    #121849
    Anonymous
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    Dear jayorts:

    Obviously, clearly, you need to no longer contact him and you need to no longer contact anyone so to talk about him. What did you learn in counseling about your behavior regarding this man.. have you been diagnosed with … maybe Borderline Personality Disorder or the like?

    anita

    #121861

    Dear Anita,

    Thanks for replying.

    The one word used to describe me was OBSESSED.

    What I am trying to say is, I am currently living with: Guilt, Regret and still harbor Love towards him. I don’t blame him for hating my guts for I did…but reconciliation and making amends is what I am really after.

    Do you think a handwritten letter to him would be appropriate? I plan to send one after the new year and hopefully he would perhaps be more inclined to hear me out?

    There was never really any proper closure and that is what I want; however, I am also afraid of letting go and in my heart I would not want to.

    #121868
    Inky
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    Hi jayorts,

    It’s interesting to me that you initially didn’t see him a lot in the beginning on purpose and he was the one to get upset with that. I do that too with people who I think the world of. Take consolation that at one point he DID like you a lot.

    The other thing, the white lie about the age. My DH omitted his true age to me. Rather than getting upset and using THAT as an excuse to dump him, I got miffed, but eventually married him. My point is do you think it’s possible that he already wanted to break up with you and used the white lie as an Issue of Choice for him to do it?

    As for you being demon possessed… Dude, you dragged him out of the closet to his whole world before he was ready. For you to rage against his friends and family like that, wow! I picked up a definite “Who Do You Think You Are” vibe to the 10th/ degree! It’s like you wanted to be dominant in the relationship and he triggered your inner wolf.

    Lastly, what you are doing is stalking. When I was younger I had a stalker. The only reason I don’t have him anymore is because I think he died. It was that bad. The worst thing about it was he would wait until you’d breathe a sigh of relief and relax, live your life, and not think about him and BAM! Six months later a letter would show up. Then BAM! Eight months later a phone call. Then your friends would say three months later they ran into him on vacation and he was asking about you. This went on for 10x longer than the actual relationship.

    It’s unnerving, disturbing and cruel to have someone on the periphery of your life you don’t want. Like you’re not giving him a choice, you WILL be in his life somehow whether he wants it or not. You are rejecting his rejection. Don’t you know that the more you try to contact the person, the more they are repelled?

    Seriously if you just raged towards one friend and contacted him once after the breakup, I would advise waiting five or ten more years and then apologize again. But it’s way, way too late for that now.

    Pretend he is dead (his younger self that was with you is anyway). Have a little ritual. Grieve. Then move on.

    Blessings,

    Inky

    • This reply was modified 8 years, 9 months ago by Inky.
    #121875
    Anonymous
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    Dear jayorts:

    You asked me: “Do you think a handwritten letter to him would be appropriate?”

    No, it will not be appropriate. There is only ONE appropriate thing you can do in relation to this man and his family and friends: 100% no contact. Not now, not after the New Year, not for as long as you live.

    You wrote in your original post: “I am still a mess, mentally and emotionally.”- I agree.

    You wrote: “I tried soooo many steps to moving forward but to no avail…’Time heals all wounds’ as the old adage says but somehow, that seems to be false.” – I agree, time did not heal you.

    Please do the loving thing and leave this man (and his family and friends) alone. It is not loving (love is in the title of your thread) to disrespect the person you love, to violate his clearly stated assertions (for no contact). If you love him, and if you want to help yourself, attend competent psychotherapy and see a psychiatrist for effective medication for your obsession. You are a woman “Still Obsessed.”

    anita

    #121908

    Hi Inky.

    Thanks for replying and the idea that he may have used the whole “white lie” as a pretext to wanting to break up did cross my mind. However, I was the one who wronged him and to my eternal shame and regret. I have to admit that I was impulsive with my actions given that I had, prior to being with him, so many issues with family, friends, finances and career opportunities.

    Again those were NOT GOOD EXCUSES.

    His cousin forgave me and understood that I was just a big bag of unstable emotions that got released at an unfortunate time. She told me to “Fix Myself Up First” before doing anything else. Who knows, by then his heart and mind would be more open to the idea of reconciliation and me making amends.

    “Stalking” – I have to admit that I have been doing that, but only to be able to catch a glimpse of him. “You only learn the importance of someone once they are gone.” I miss him and I love him so very much.

    There was actually a period wherein I didn’t try to contact him and that was from 2013-2015. That was during the time I had a short-lived relationship with a girl, which ended on good terms. I guess that I learned from my stupidity with the guy.

    “Grieve for Him and pretend that he is dead” isn’t a possibility and “way too late for that now” is more like “delayed for now”.

    I made a conscious decision to finally MOVE ON and LET GO to go FIX MYSELF s I am a wreck. Maybe…after 2-10 years, he’ll be ready to truly forgive me. You are correct that what I did was vile, but I can’t believe myself that I did what I did to him.

    #121909

    ” You are a woman “Still Obsessed.” – I guess you’re taking a shot at me being bisexual/gay.

    Please do the loving thing and leave this man (and his family and friends) alone. It is not loving (love is in the title of your thread) to disrespect the person you love, to violate his clearly stated assertions (for no contact). — You are correct.

    #121923
    Anonymous
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    Dear jayorts:

    I didn’t take a shot at you; this is not what I do here. In writing a woman “Still obsessed” I was referring to the title of your thread: “Still in love.”

    My suggestion was and is that the word Obsessed is more accurate than love to characterize your draw to this man.
    And this is why I suggested you do the Loving thing and leave him alone.

    anita

    #121925

    Whoa, I just received your response immediately after I logged back in.

    Anita, I stand corrected and I apologize. You being direct is what I needed being a New Yorker, we should be used to directness and sarcasm.

    I guess it’s the “If you love someone, let them go. If they return, they were always yours. If they don’t, they never were”.

    Won’t lie to you but the feelings I have seem to be authentic, but I guess they can be reversed:

    HOPE – DENIAL
    LOVE – OBSESSION

    #121927
    Anonymous
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    Dear jayorts:

    Your loving feeling for this man feels authentic to you, yet to love someone means more than just the feeling. It means acting for the loved one’s benefit. This man doesn’t want you to contact him, for years. He is probably afraid and has suffered a whole lot from your harassment of him.

    It will be to his benefit that you respect his assertion. Act lovingly to him by leaving him alone. Love him this way (leaving him alone) for the rest of your life. Never again contact him- love him that way.

    anita

    #121929

    So, it’s over. Acceptance after trying so hard to make amends and tell him how very sorry I am. An idiot I was.

    #121932
    Anonymous
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    Dear jayorts:

    An idiot you were, but no more. That is a good, good thing. In my life, I wasted years and decades of life in what I used to call my own idiocy or such unflattering words. Now I say to myself: I wasted all these years because I was injured, and I was unwell, hurting and bleeding, so to speak. Self empathy- apply that. It is a game changer, really.

    anita

    #121971

    Thank you very much, Anita.

    God give me strength!

    #121972
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear jayorts:

    You are welcome. If posting here helps strengthen you please do post here anytime and I will reply.

    anita

    #121990

    Thanks, Anita.

    To be honest, I think that I’ll be carrying this scar of loss till I die.

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