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February 26, 2023 at 9:48 am #415806
Roberta
ParticipantDear Anon765
How hurtful that someone made a snap judgement and verbalized it out loud.
As for your GF maybe she was gob smacked by the other person’s statement about you, or did not feel confident/brave enough to contradict in a quick and appropriate way. Were you there?
February 26, 2023 at 9:27 pm #415878Anonymous
InactiveActually, the other person told me first. And I was telling my girlfriend when she basically agreed.
February 27, 2023 at 10:09 am #415885Roberta
ParticipantHi Anon765
Do you feel that thisĀ lack of empathy episode was a one off or is it part of a pattern and did it rock the foundations of your relationship?
March 9, 2023 at 5:21 pm #416080StoutHeartedMen
ParticipantDear Anon765,
I am very sad to hear that happened to you. I had to reply to this topic because I was, just a minute ago, confronting this same negative core belief about myself! (Holding on to the belief that I am ugly as opposed to the belief I am beautiful/handsome/gorgeous.) Thank you for sharing your story here.
If you feel comfortable, can you please state the specific sentences in a dialogue conversation? I ask this because, as of right now, what was said is quite vague and open to interpretation. Sharing the specific words may alleviate your burden because we can unpack them and understand what exactly happened here.
I was struck by when you said “I know I’m not attractive or beautiful.” What do these words “attractive” and “beauitful” mean to you? They mean different things to different people. For example, I consider gray/white hair and a very skinny body in a man beautiful but not all men strive to look like this. Since you say you ‘know’ you are not these things, how did you find out this information? Did someone tell you, or did you infer this from previous situations or relationships? When was the earliest moment you remember ‘learning’ this? I’m stealing the last question from this post:
I also notice that you have a girlfriend, and yet you say you are “meant to be forever alone.” By the way, not all of us are so lucky…I am single, in contrast!𤣠Do you agree that there is some cognitive dissonance happening here, to claim being alone despite someone being romantically involved with you? I wonder, is there an assumption that your girlfriend will leave you? I believe this negative self-talk is contradicting what is happening to you in reality; therefore I believe it may be your own mind giving you a specific narrative that fits a “story” from your past. When my brain does this, it’s because it wants to avoid getting hurt the same way twice. So it keeps me safe by presenting a “movie” of past abandonments. For example I subconciously assume women I date will emotionally abuse me in similar ways to my sister, and I expect my sister’s behavior even though this person obviously isn’t her! I get so into this “movie” that I react to the past and can’t see the person I’m with. What do you think?
Thank you again for sharing this sensitive moment and hoping to hear from you soon.ā¤ļø
March 9, 2023 at 5:24 pm #416081StoutHeartedMen
ParticipantOops, just realized the link didn’t paste. Here’s the post I was referring to at the end of my third paragraph.
Thanks again and hope to hear back.
March 14, 2023 at 3:55 am #416281Peggy
ParticipantHello
Consider that the person who felt it necessary to make negative comments about your looks has a serious problem.Ā As someone else said, we each have our own perception ofĀ beauty etc.Ā Your girlfriend was attracted to you.Ā Why?Ā Ā Explore this with her.Ā Ā It’s far more important to have an attractive personality.Ā That comes from within.Ā Being kind, loving, loyal, humorous, thoughtful are far more important qualities to me in a partner than ‘ideal’ looks.Ā Sharing the same values is also important in maintaining a close and strong bond.Ā Don’t give up on love just because someone made a cruel comment.
April 8, 2023 at 10:46 am #417119Anonymous
Inactive[quote quote=416080]Dear Anon765, I am very sad to hear that happened to you. I had to reply to this topic because I was, just a minute ago, confronting this same negative core belief about myself! (Holding on to the belief that I am ugly as opposed to the belief I am beautiful/handsome/gorgeous.) Thank you for sharing your story here. If you feel comfortable, can you please state the specific sentences in a dialogue conversation? I ask this because, as of right now, what was said is quite vague and open to interpretation. Sharing the specific words may alleviate your burden because we can unpack them and understand what exactly happened here. I was struck by when you said āI know Iām not attractive or beautiful.ā What do these words āattractiveā and ābeauitfulā mean to you? They mean different things to different people. For example, I consider gray/white hair and a very skinny body in a man beautiful but not all men strive to look like this. Since you say you āknowā you are not these things, how did you find out this information? Did someone tell you, or did you infer this from previous situations or relationships? When was the earliest moment you remember ālearningā this? Iām stealing the last question from this post: I also notice that you have a girlfriend, and yet you say you are āmeant to be forever alone.ā By the way, not all of us are so luckyā¦I am single, in contrast!
Do you agree that there is some cognitive dissonance happening here, to claim being alone despite someone being romantically involved with you? I wonder, is there an assumption that your girlfriend will leave you? I believe this negative self-talk is contradicting what is happening to you in reality; therefore I believe it may be your own mind giving you a specific narrative that fits a āstoryā from your past. When my brain does this, itās because it wants to avoid getting hurt the same way twice. So it keeps me safe by presenting a āmovieā of past abandonments. For example I subconciously assume women I date will emotionally abuse me in similar ways to my sister, and I expect my sisterās behavior even though this person obviously isnāt her! I get so into this āmovieā that I react to the past and canāt see the person Iām with. What do you think? Thank you again for sharing this sensitive moment and hoping to hear from you soon.
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Sorry for the late reply. I am dealing with unforeseen job layoff and added stupidity in my already dumb life.
Yes. I think I do believe at some level I believe nothing stays good forever. I don’t know why I feel that. I think I am not attractive because nobody has ever really told me that, my parents, siblings, friends, random people, nobody. I have always been a face in the crowd or just the invisible girl.
The specific convo-
A: Your lips are too thin, and your nose is too board. Your cheekbones could use some work . You could look beautiful then and with some more work (of course I translate this to – you are ugly – you can’t change my mind on that. there’s nothing else this can mean)
Me: Tells my girlfriend
Her: When I told you that about your lips you got so mad at me.
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