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  • #234221
    Helga
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    Hello everyone! I apologize in advance for the wall of text and hopefully I am posting in the right section ๐Ÿ™‚ I’ve been a Tiny Buddha reader for a long time now but somehow didn’t see you wonderful people had a forum. Glad to have found it.

    My very long story short: I’ve been having anxiety for the past 7-8 years, sometimes really bad, sometimes manageable, but I’ve been white knuckling it alone for all this time. More than two years ago I moved to another country where I know no one and do not speak the language (after hard work I managed to get to the level where I can understand people, but can’t beat my own shadow and actually start speaking it – not without terrible anxiety). I moved here to be together with my boyfriend, had our ups and downs but we’re currently engaged and hope for the best. He doesn’t really understand my anxiety feelings/everything else I go through, but he’s been over all supportive and tries his best.

    I’m 23 and have been a student before moving, but never had a job. I thought this would change by moving, but things are way more tough than they seemed before. So I have no friends and sometimes I miss my home terribly. I haven’t had many friends at home either, but I miss my home town and being able to actually speak with people. Apart from all this, recurrently have to deal with “daddy issues” (my father died when I was a child).

    Well, everything seems to be a complete mess, but I’ve been trying here and there to figure things out so that at least it doesn’t get worse. Learned a lot about relationships and I’m glad my own problems don’t cause unnecessary troubles between us. But right now I’m terribly confused and have no clue what should I do. I can’t legally get a job so I don’t bother with that. Because of the language barrier, I gave up on finding friends, so I have a lot of time on my hands to figure things out further. But I got to a wall of “things are so messy I have no idea where to start”. The physical symptoms of anxiety just make me stop any time I try to do something, so that’s a down side…

    I guess, after all this, I need a tip, a suggestion, advice, anything, where could I look to start figuring things out.. Anyone who has been through anything similar and you had success with overcoming it, please tell me your secret ๐Ÿ™‚ Thank you all for your time.

    #234237
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Helga:

    I would focus on learning the language, take classes and master the language, make it your goal and focus. After you get married, you will have the legal ability to work, correct?

    Learning the language will greatly help when you do start working in this new country and it will make it possible for you to make friends there as well.

    Post here anytime. You can have a connection here to make up for the temporary lack where you live.

    (You mentioned daddy issues, if you want to elaborate, please do)

    anita

    #234247
    Helga
    Participant

    Hello anita, thank you for answering so quickly.

    Yes, learning the language (German, to be precise) was my goal for probably the first year of living here, until I hit a bump in my path. I couldn’t do much else alone. Courses are really expensive (not including books, materials and the transport, since I live on the land side), not to mention I tried one for half a year and it was literally useless. I really can’t get over the fear of embarrassment, though. I should have specified, but I live in Switzerland, so people already look weird at you if you don’t speak the local dialect. Mistakes on top of that would just make me faint from anxiety (sorry for the exaggeration, it feels like that, though ๐Ÿ™ ). I tried reading books aloud to get used to my own voice, I tried keeping a journal in German, but the fear is always there, and right now I am afraid to even try again.

    On top of this, unfortunately, I didn’t graduate back at home so I have no degree, no experience, very little chances for a job (no kidding, I applied once to be a cleaning assistance in a super market, it was supposed to be before it opens and after it closes, and they asked for certification, at which point I just gave up). I suppose many young people deal with this, too…

    Regarding “daddy issues”… I thankfully never felt anger or resentment towards the situation, or my father, but until recently I felt like something was taken away from me, the chance to grow up more.. balanced, so to speak. My mother tried her best (she never remarried or had a boyfriend), but looking back over the years of my childhood there was definitely a lack of masculine presence, and I suppose that is a major reason why I am so, shall I say, rootless. No goals or ambitions.. Though I’m trying not to use this as an excuse. Years of anxiety have eroded whatever there was of my confidence/willpower even more. Now I am just confused. I don’t feel like a baby or a child (although many times this is how I described myself), just deeply confused. I don’t know how do other people learn to be brave and face their own failures and drawbacks. My boyfriend grew up with a mother who wasn’t fully there as she should have been, and then she went away after his parents divorced. He grew up with his father, and he has none of the problems I do, which just makes me think I’ll never be able to fill this whole that has just been growing since my childhood years.

    I don’t know how to do what I have to do (learn, grow as a person, do my daily chores, go out and be brave, not to even mention enjoy life), while anxiety makes my knees feel like noodles.

    Thank you for reading my concerns.

    #234253
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Helga:

    You are welcome.

    Your boyfriend doesn’t have the problems you have, but I am sure he has problems. I hope the two of you can help each other. I hope that the two of you can be a stronger team. This is very important especially in the context of you living in a new country.

    I too moved to a new country and speak English with an accent. I wish I didn’t have my accent, but I do. But I do love the language, always have. And I didn’t feel like a stranger when I arrived here, this was so because I felt like a stranger in the country where I was born into. I felt like a stranger within my family.

    If you take one step at a time, tackle what you are afraid of tackling in small steps, one at a time, you can make it. Anxiety will not stop you if you proceed slowly, in a planned way, relaxing in between steps, evaluating what works and what doesn’t work and make wiser and wiser choices over time.

    anita

     

    #234315
    Helga
    Participant

    Hello again anita

    Yes, he does, and it was tough in the beginning, but we’re learning every day a bit more about each other. I want us to grow together, but some things he can’t help me with, so here I am.. ๐Ÿ™‚

    I’m glad you somewhat understand me. I still feel like a stranger here. I don’t think I have found my place yet. I come from Eastern Europe and here in the West everything seems so.. busy and artificial somehow. Some days I really don’t know how to cope with homesickness.

    But how can I do that when I feel afraid of sooo many things? It feels like it will take me my entire life. I might be young but I’m already so tired. Sometimes, when I recover after a particularly bad period, I tell myself, I just have to keep going, one day after another, but still, nothing really changes. When I finally build a bit of confidence that I can do it, something happens, and anxiety creeps back up and I’m back at square one. How many times can someone start on the same journey? I’m probably doing something wrong, but I can’t “see” myself well enough to figure out what exactly. I will try to slow down even more and put any expectations away, I guess..

    Good night (or day!), and thank you.

     

     

    #234339
    Prash
    Participant

    Dear Helga,

    As a person dealing with anxiety myself, I can’t but help admire the courage you have shown in moving to a new country braving all the anxiety issues you would have had to face at that point in time going away from what has been familiar to you.

    You had written- how many times can someone start the same journey. It may be the same journey but the start point will always be different every time you take it through. I understand that being in a foreign country immediate access to a trained therapist though ideal may not be feasible at this point in time.

    Are you familiar with cognitive behavioral therapy. There are quite a lot of self help books based on it that can help with your anxiety issues.

     

    #234355
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Helga:

    You are welcome.

    You wrote: “something happens, and anxiety creeps back up and I’m back at square one. How many times can someone start on the same journey?”-

    It used to be this way for me: when I felt very badly, once again, I was overwhelmed, it was game over for me. Everything seemed too messed up, too broken, so again and again, I started allย  over again, from the beginning, saying to myself: this time, I will do it right and I will feel okay. From now on I will choose correctly, I will not make mistakes, and my life will be good from now on.

    What happened next was that I felt badly again, really troubled, and once again I started from “square one”, using your term.

    I will tell you howย  I changed my attitude if you can relate t o what I just shared, (otherwise what I share next will notย  be relevant to you)

    anita

    #234435
    Helga
    Participant

    Dear Prash,

    Thank you for your kind words. I don’t know how I made it myself either, I was terrified of flying, but I was ready to do anything for the man I love. Looking back on it, I suppose it was one of those few moments when I felt more love and less fear and that’s how ๐Ÿ™‚

    I always felt a bit weird about going to a therapist, not that I wouldn’t like to, but I have a feeling that once you start you never stop, and I can’t afford that. But I’ve heard of CBT. Do you have any books you recommend? There are so, so many out there. Thank you.

    Dear anita,

    I relate completely. There is no choice but to stand up again, and again, and again. I did have terrible moments when I didn’t even want to eat, thinking “what’s the point”, but in the end, someone has to cook and clean, so I got up and did that and moved forward… again. But as you probably know, at one point, not only did I start losing hope, I also had less and less energy to start again. I don’t want to give up and spiral into an even deeper depression, but sometimes the confusion overwhelms me. Please share your wisdom with a fellow sufferer ๐Ÿ™‚

    #234441
    Prash
    Participant

    Dear Helga,

    You can try out: 1. “Feeling good” by David Burns and 2. “Anxiety and worry workbook” by David Clark and Aaron Beck.

    Consistently doing the exercises in these books definitely helps.

    Take care

     

    #234475
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Helga:

    “something happens, and anxiety creeps back up and I’m back at square one. How many times can someone start on the same journey”-

    My experience with healing from severe anxiety involves the following points:

    1. Expecting that something will happen again and that anxiety will creep back up.ย  Better eliminate the surprise element, as in saying to oneself: not again!

    2. A good part of you is and will be at square one for a long, long time even while you experience square two, three and four. Keep square one in your awareness while you feel and function better.

    3. When your anxiety creeps up, don’t panic. It feels badly, but your life circumstances don’t match how badly you feel. Pay attention to those circumstances and focus on functioning well regardless of how you feel.

    For example, you are washing dishes at about noon (square two) and your anxiety is elevated following thoughts such as I should be working making money right now, I am not going to make it…. Going back to square one would mean leaving the dishes dirty in the sink and withdrawing into a room until the day after, then returning to the sink which is very full of dirty dishes.

    Remaining at square two while being aware of square one would mean to focus on the task at hand, washing the dishes, don’t stop, but slow down. Pay attention to how anxious you feel, a bit dizzy perhaps, foggy, notice, keep washing the dishes, pay attention to how the water and soap feel in your hands, to the sound of the dishes being washed, to the sensations of your body and keep going.

    Once you finished washing the dishes, you see that you were able to complete a task while anxious. You did well. There is a sense of satisfaction in it. That feeling of satisfaction with your own competency, your ability to remain at square two while experiencing elevated anxiety.

    And then, know that you will experience elevated anxiety again and then again.ย  It is the patient and persistent practice over a long, long time that will yield results.

    anita

     

     

    #234727
    Helga
    Participant

    Dear Prash,

    Thank you for your recommendations, I will definitely search for those books!

    Dear anita,

    So the essence is, expect it, accept it and stay with it… Sounds easier than it is. But you’ve put things in a different perspective and I really needed that. Until now I always thought I’m at square one no matter what I do, as long as anxiety is there, I failed and I’ll never get better etc, but it’s not like that.

    By your metaphor here, I never go back to square one, since I always just bite through it even if I feel like fainting. Thank you, your words made me feel better ๐Ÿ™‚ I will try to always think about it like that (it’ll probably help with my general negativity too).

    I hope I can be strong enough to not stop persisting. Thank you again. I wish I could hug you for this ๐Ÿ™‚

    #234759
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Helga:

    You are welcome and I appreciate the hug, I can almost feel it all the way from Europe. It “sounds easier than it is”, I agree, so post anytime you would like encouragement.

    anita

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