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  • #44709
    Mallika
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    Hello,

    Firstly just want to say how much I love this place and how wonderful it is. The articles, quotes, images, etc are so inspirational and motivating.

    I have been struggling with some issues and would like to hear your thoughts on it.

    The first is about the struggle to accept oneself as you are. I am in my early 20s and have never been one to succumb to peer pressure. Thanks to my liberal and forward thinking family, I have grown up pretty well grounded. However, ever since college and more since me and my peers have moved out and started our new lives, I find myself questioning myself a lot. I am an introvert and have never had a fascination with drinking and partying too much. My friends on the other hand seem to be going through this phase of “You are only young once” and have this mental checklist of crazy things to do before you hit 30. What I find ironical is that most of the things mentioned in the list are limited to related to drinking, partying, flirting and boys. Most people seem to have the same thing on their list. Though I know that I do not prescribe to their idea of fun and think that some of the things they do are very reckless and irresponsible and are only done because that is what the majority of the young, 20 year olds seem to be doing – however, since what they are doing seems to go along with the standard definition of ‘being young and having fun’…I who likes staying at home and often give ‘mature’ advice on not being too reckless, often find myself labelled as a bore. Though I ignore most of it, some of it does start to get to you. With almost 90 % of the people and friends around me living the other way and saying that I am not living enough, I do start questioning myself. The things is that I do know that there should be a balance between socializing and solitude and I should do things I am comfortable with (without getting too cozy in my comfort zone) …but sometimes when they talk about drinking till they collapse or being more reckless than what I am comfortable with, I begin to wonder that am I perhaps letting my youth go waste? Since everyone around me is going the normal way…as young people are supposed to, I cant help feel abnormal and boring often. I keep questioning myself and with the number of times I hear people call me a ‘bore’ because I am not doing the things they are, the conflict in me is increasing.

    My other conflict is related to my career and approach in life. I have been someone who is used to results and look forward to it at the end of a sincere effort. Ironically enough I have now chosen the creative field as my career where unpredictability is the only guarantee. So now my struggle with every effort and idea is that it may never, ever prove to have any results. I dismiss ideas and thoughts because I immediately get a flash of seeing myself writing away endless stories till I am 70 and not one getting appreciated or rewarded. And it seems like a pathetic sight and I tremble at the thought of it. I know it should not be this way…that I should enjoy the process and not the results. But it does seem scary to think that all your efforts may never have an end. Any thoughts & advice would be most appreciated!

    #44734
    John
    Participant

    I believe that people who throw labels around, judge, compare, and criticize do so only because deep down inside, they’re insecure in their own skin. By trying to make you more like them or change you, it validates their own actions. If you drink, party, and act recklessly, then their drinking, partying, and recklessness is justified.

    “See”, they say to themselves, “I’m not the only one who is doing this. Other people do it too so that makes it okay.”

    Peer pressure is ultimately driven by fear and loneliness. These things won’t really make them happy if they do it alone, but if they can get others to do them, then it doesn’t seem as pathetic and insecure.

    Stay true to your compass. If that means finding a new social circle, that’s okay. There are over 7 Billion people in this world and I’m sure there’s at least a dozen in your own town or city that are of your generation and share your feelings, values, interests, and goals.

    #44753
    Lindsay
    Participant

    Hi Mallika,

    I kind of went a different direction than you. I’m an introvert who tried the party scene. It’s… eh. I’m not easily peer pressured, but I had my stack of issues that I wanted to avoid. That’s not to say I didn’t have any fun during that time, but it really is a numbing agent for a lot of people (me included). It can take a few years to realize that though.

    You are in an interesting position because you know you aren’t interested in that scene. So, I have a few thoughts about that. One, right on for knowing what you like and what isn’t worth it to you. Two, I agree with John that you would probably benefit from broadening your social circle. Yoga classes? Meditation groups? Book clubs? There are plenty. Try meetup.com if you don’t know how to find people with similar interests. Three, if you are afraid you are missing out on life, broaden those interests. Push yourself to try things you haven’t really considered. Ever tried rock climbing? There are rock gyms in many cities. How about kayaking? White water? Toast masters? Improv group? There are many things you can do to push your self-imposed boundaries, feel that thrill and excitement, without the alcohol. I rock climb and kayak. I have met great, chill people with similar interests and both are FAR more exciting than my alcohol/drug days.

    And my fourth point is a warning to you. They might be calling you a bore because they feel judged by you. You labeled yourself as the “mature” advice giver, warning others not to be reckless. While I don’t necessarily recommend the party scene, it is a phase that a lot people need to experience and go through. It is part of their path. They are figuring out who they are, just like everyone else. They are stumbling and making mistakes, and that’s okay. You don’t have to walk their path with them, but I think that if they are your friends, you should respect their chosen path. You don’t have to agree, but don’t judge either.

    As you and your friends go through stages in life, your friendships may shift and change too. Some friends are meant to be in your life for a short while, some stay for life. My best friend since childhood is still my best friend (now in our 30s). But our friendship has morphed over time and continues to change. She went through a heavy partying stage and was much more into the drug scene than I could handle. I backed away from our friendship for a while, and once that phase subsided, we found our way back to each other. Sometimes we are inseparable. Sometimes, we are living on separate continents. I don’t like every choice she makes and I’m sure she’s questioned a few of my choices in life too. But I respect her as a person and know the value of screwing up. She is also one of the only people in my life who I know accepts and loves me no matter how badly I screw up. I can tell her anything without worrying about her judging me or defriending me. Believe me, we have tested that throughout the years of our bad decisions. And there are few things more beautiful or wonderful than knowing you have someone’s unconditional love. And knowing that you love someone unconditionally.

    • This reply was modified 10 years, 5 months ago by Lindsay.
    #44758
    Voila
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    The body is at its most ambitious and most fertile peak in all aspects while in the age-range of the good ole’ 20s – I believe it has something to do with hormones in healthy and well-rounded individuals. That being said, writing stories, endlessly as you state, is, in my humble opinion, absolutely gorgeous, fun, worth every moment spent and admirable. A true character-builder. What got me started in writing was documenting the world as my season began. I’m sure you have heard all of the “sayings” that go a little something like this: It’s about the journey, You only see what your eyes want to see, Silence is golden, I would write this for hours though I’ll stop there on that topic. I’m sharing my season-story with you as you shared yours with, well, here.

    Before that, did you read the newest blog post on Tiny Buddha website, This blog-posting ? I have memories being washed into my consciousness at the moment. Here’s my season story;

    Age: Within my early 20s, I was the ultra-cautious, studious and ever-present wholesome person. Everyone around me was doing AND saying the same (similar) as above, as what you write about, very similar, if not a little too similar.

    These scenarios and party-focused friends had no reflection on me in the beginning of turning 21, or maybe I did not have a reaction to them. Had these scenarios impacted my consciousness, I was not tuned into their frequency, which, in itself, is a subconscious reaction, later rising to the surface of consciousness.

    People did say I was more interested in learning, reading, writing and developing than taking a day-off of life to enjoy my youth. The labels did begin to be placed around me/on me, though, labels did not have form nor did they have impact at that time. I did not ignore, I was raised to understand people, many people in this vast world we live in, speak to mirrors. Without discounting a friend, I noted the words (I still note the words) and labels they see within my eyes and recognize that these words and labels are what they are, reflections & reflected from unto another, like an echo or recorder, through the years I’ve learned that some people repeat, and like a record player, some people skip, repeating infinitely until they are woken up to the life they’re living.

    Labels and categories a person places creates a fraction in the others’ psyche. I’ve observed and counseled many “frienemy” situations. When the party life began, drama rose, intensifying after a while subsequent to the labeled friends’ psyche sometimes breathing in the poison. Repetitive intoxication with futility often breeds shadow effects. After learning this with experience, secrets and whispers were within each friend and each friend turned to me, I listen and focus, the most important person is the one in-front of you, the most important time is now.

    When I was going through my initial season, we all had fantastic careers, some remaining in classrooms, our attentions focused as a single intertwined sponge unfolding in water. With all of the toxins being ingested within a daily social life, I was able to see that friends were transforming into various identities, individual persons within individual people, growing in directions that I thought fascinating. We were/are bicoastal, we are labeled with the word “Guh”, we are the trendsetters, regardless of if I was going out with them every night or not, regardless if I partied as they; we were/are all one group, together and individually labeled “Guh”.

    The term “Guh” is a southern term for Guys & Gals of the Southern Stocracy, the benchmark for southern society during our era. Some friends were southern Bells continuing duties, kings & queens within Orders of official Mardi Gras, ran and started new companies, we worked our mind’s core hard for the educations and family was indeed watching/guiding. “The time of our lives” was, at that time, socially focused on us and we were (still are) urged to go through & turnout. We are as tight as ever though divided by thousands of miles, today. I didn’t have to party like everyone to be labeled a Guh, I was named “Voilà” and Voilà is referenced as a Guh whether I intoxicated myself or not. It’s by association. This is part of my life, though, not defined as “I am” within my consciousness. The family and parents were more impressive with the destruction of our youth through partying and maintaining social standing, this all would have transpired, regardless

    With all of the “society-first” & “socialize-hard” backwards raising, another aspect of this “set-up” lifestyle included duties for the family name umbrella. The southern way is clique first. The families knew all and pressured us to fulfill our “social responsibility.” Unfortunately, hypocrisy was/is forefront. Expectations were to party hard and have a façade of perfection. if you’re reckless enough to make a fool of your name, you’re forever cast like a skipping shell across the water.

    After a while, I began to notice the most blatant, initial change in quite an unexpected modus operandi. When the lights went down, personalities changed, having one mask in formal sittings, one with friends, another during a work-day and another while in party-mode. Living a quadruple life, I was very intrigued at the extent these friends were splitting, consciously, so I began intensely documenting, journaling several books with several hundred hand-written pages of parchment, leather wrapped & mediaeval-style, so not what anyone else was doing, often laughed at in the beginning, the actions I set forth made a difference, both at that time for my psyche and in later years with friends. I maintain the same journals, now with artwork included such as drawings, sketches and the occasional painted page when not painting on canvas.

    The journals are current, some of the most therapeutic, enjoyable zoned-out time that I carved out for sanity. After these friends got over the laughing, they became intrigued with their stories, maybe too much. We began substituting our names with character-names, another façade. This was the only way to maintain us all on the same page, no pun intended. These books are known as the Guh Bylaws and all of us copied our stories into a merged central book, then, of course, many of the hard-core partyGuhs changed their history-facts and hide their actions as if they were shamed, though, through my eyes, these are everlasting impressions from memory and within the original form, still on the original parchment wrapped in leather, this set of books are still a growing saga of the life I live and observe. I wrote on the parchment rather than joining the party drunken, at least for a long time.

    Later, the label(s) placed upon me was “a late bloomer” in the party-world and “Horus” to friends & families, both are funny, to me as I became “Horus Voilà.” The thing is, I noticed that the friends were ashamed every day after a while, the party didn’t stop for them. When merging our history to a main book to be passed down to “Lil Guhs”, the actions and extent of the party was edited again by each person.

    While all of this was flowing in a strong current, I maintain(ed) my own head. Instead of partying I was studying, in a gymnasia, at a charity board-meeting, speaking with someone with wise words, I was (am) learning.

    When I began noticing that I was focused on career as a primary, I was persuaded into a direction by everyone within this “normal” world, rather than practicing in the gymnasia, rather than physical activity, when I noticed this, I began to pull and see new faces into my life, not on purpose, people were just drawn, I was in need of fun, party-goers know the symptoms.

    The Guhs began to extend their “Live Fast, Die Young” mentality and some began a treacherous path once the Lil Guhs began their season. AGE. This is when I was pulled (willingly) into the club circuit, house parties- I didn’t go overboard and I saw more than anyone should. Fun at times, in the beginning, though I felt I was not my self, I wasn’t. I was not solely focusing on career advancement, I was a butterfly.

    When I stepped into the parties and participating within this, for lack of better word, stage, there was a moment when I had enough–the moment I began joining the party, joining in that manner. Oh the headaches! This life of fun was more than a career unto itself. I was scheduling appearances, where I would be, when, with whom, dressed in which way, when and where… I began noticing peer pressure of friends onto others, I began noticing these friends did not enjoy careers, they were escaping on a level I hadn’t seen, of course because I was not participating at that level. I was maintaining a balancing act with my career and a super-social life. I was young and I had everything to lose, I maintained moderation and I didn’t see another friend who had moderation. When in super-social gear, career advancement was not as it was, I was having fun and learning, learning is the central-guide to all that I see, still. I noticed that the fun was somewhat a façade in hindsight. This group vacillating between 20 – 40 individuals and couples, my self included, were in the deep southern states of the US, on the Gulf of Mexico. I began seeing a proper façade with a hidden drink in so many people’s hands. Seeing outcomes in choice-paths made by friends began my exit. We were now solidified as a standard, years had passed since we began going through our youthful, playfulness, one year had passed (about to pass) since I joined the party to celebrate my youth, I began to see that there was not a point, there was an excuse, an escape, a tangible fear-of-future which drove the plastered faces.

    I learned a new faceted perspective of will. I learned people’s mirrors were inherited from their families. I learned that every little thing that you say or do changes and impacts the unexpected. I learned parties give headaches/hangovers/overall-grossness, I saw on many that partying hard can certainly give wrinkles as though with every day and night that passed by was as if an elixir was being drank that drained the youth and beauty from the once-pretty faces. As I exited I noticed friends aged rapidly more than others. I learned the wild fun, for me, is an instance that is enjoyed then detached, I can drop in and drop out of any scene, though, most of the people, very diverse people, seemed to have something in common, they don’t want to admit, still, they continue to party well after their season. The Guhs are drinkers and party-hard always for the most-part. I learned to let go and I learned the power of goodbye.

    #45355
    Mallika
    Participant

    John, Lindsay and David – Thank you all for your replies and sharing your stories! I now realise that perhaps there is no point in waiting for these social labels to go away since currently I am surrounded by people who are taking the other route to life. Like you all said, I should focus more on things that interest me and I would like to do. I am not counting on meeting more like-minded people, but at least my energies will be focused on things that I love and spend less time on trying to fit into places where I don’t belong. Perhaps the sole reason I am letting these labels and ‘fitting-in’ bother me is because I have not given enough space and time to nurture my own life and develop it doing things I want to do rather than what people around me are doing/are ‘supposed’ to do.

    And Lindsay, your point about making other’s feel judged is something that never struck me. Perhaps this is true. While giving advice they may feel I am being holier-than-thou and hate me for it. But the fact is, I never mean to judge them. I think it becomes a mutual problem. Sometimes when I talk about the things I believe in, they feel I am judging them and sometimes when they talk about stuff they do, I feel a little pinch in me. Perhaps both sides are equally confused!! But like you all said – one should focus more on oneself. If I am happy and satisfied in my life, perhaps I will stop caring about what others think of me and label me as.

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