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  • #305727
    Cali Chica
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    clearly I donā€™t need glitter, what I need is rest

    #305737
    Anonymous
    Guest

    I agree, Cali Chica! Will be back Wed morning, hope you do get to rest tonight.

    anita

    #305793
    Cali Chica
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    growing up is what is needed. Itā€™s the first thing that I thought about this morning. I was woken up by the dog abruptly at 5:45 Am. When I had a nice deep sleep (hardly ever happens).

    I was angry. Not annoyed – no full on angry. My husband mumbles something about how we have to wake up soon and I said NO!!

    no we donā€™t its an hour early.

    I am sick and tired of putting rest second. This is not a rant against my husband but out loud. My dog wakes up on the dot at 6 am daily. He is trained this way because of our early schedules. Of course. Heā€™s a dog. Heā€™s extremely time oriented and ā€œworkā€ oriented as though heā€™s on a schedule on a farm!

    Anyway ive had trouble sleeping for years. Usually staying asleep. I can never fall back asleep after being woken up. Thatā€™s why things like being woken up in the middle of the night for whatever reason get to me after a build up.

    On the weekends we hardly sleep in as our natural clocks are programmed to wake early. Regardless there are some days we sleep past 6 or so if we stayed up late the night before.

    We bought an automatic feeder for the dog that is programmed to release the quantity of food at a certain time. Used it in the past but was loud and not ideal. We usually are awake anyway at that time so it wasnā€™t helpful.

    Yet the other night my husband was on call and was woken up twice around 2 am, I too woke up. I couldnā€™t fall back asleep until around 4 am. And was able to go into work later (yesterday). Yes of course the dog (who I love) wakes me up at 6.

    I remind myself how we need to restart the automatic feeder for days like that where I could actually have slept in.

    I found myself angry this morning. Not at the dog of course, but my husband. He often says things like, oh itā€™s fine we are up anyway when the dog wants to eat.

    I felt angry at him for diminishing how important even an extra half hour or hour of sleep is to me / us if and when we could get it.

    Cali Chica is tired. So tired. And she doesnā€™t have the best sleep. So if she can preserve it somehow she will. She has to.

    So it sounds silly and likely it is. But I felt angry at myself for keeping the door open last night so the dog could jump on me at 5:45 when I could have slept at extra hour. And angry at my husband when I bring up the automatic feeder he mentions we are usually up anyway. Well what about when we ARENT!!!

    it goes back to preserving energy.

    Time and again we give ours away. Away away. We have none left. To stupid people to random things, to that horrific wife that day before the trip, to the horrific cousin at the end of the trip.

    Even on Saturday we were out with my friends, great group we decided to join their dinner. I was happy to and my husband and I discussed prior that it will be a good idea, versus knee jerk socializing. Yet the dinner ended late and I was ready to go home. My friends all said okay stay for just a little longer. I felt firm in my head that I was tired. Knowing I canā€™t sleep in naturally anymore after all the years of early mornings, staying out late can get to me after a while. Even if I am able to go without much sleep. I frankly donā€™t WANT to anymore. Anyway my husband was having a great time and continued to say cmon lets stay a little longer.

    Of course it ends up being 2 more hours, sure we have fun hanging out at the friends apartment quality time talking laughing etc. but I donā€™t need to get home at 2 am. We are not in our 20s

    i told my husband the next morning this. He said he agrees, he realizes heā€™s been feeling so stressed and burnt out that he subconsciously wanted to stay longer with that good group to chase some relaxation likely. I said yes I know Iā€™ve been there. But nothing good comes out of it. Feeling good comes from a healthy lifestyle. Staying out late screws up more for us than others even. Next morning waking up at 6:45 am and hardly having sleep and then Bam itā€™s Monday crazy work week and heā€™s on call.

    I talked about how we both need to grow up. No not grow up. GROW THE F UP.

    We donā€™t have the liberty to act like children, letting random people in to our inner circle. Giving our energy away like candy. Not having boundaries for our own energy. Now this is about both of us not just one of us.

    So now this morning. When I wake an hour too early. When finally finally I could have actually slept in longer – for once having nice deep sleep. I am pissed off.

    Tired from staying up until 2 am Saturday and not making up the sleep. Tired from being woken up multiple times Monday night because of the call phone calls. Tired.

    So yes I want that automatic dog feeder set up. I want the door closed every night so the dog will not sleep with us anymore. My husband says why are you bringing all this up at 5:45 am. I say because I am sick and tired. And I need to preserve sleep first and foremost.

    Yes does it sound like crazy angry person at 5 am. Sure. But maybe itā€™s a long time coming.

    #305809
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear (Tired & Angry) Cali Chica:

    A quiet automatic feeder, door closed, a weekend predetermined bedtime, three easy to come by solutions. If you have an additional room, maybe you can sleep there at nights when he is on call (?)

    I used to wake up every day for a few years at 2 am, sometimes earlier, rarely after 3, but before 4 am. Sometimes napped for an hour in the middle of the day, bedtime was early, before 8 pm. That was a couple of years ago. Somehow, I decided to not get out of bed before 5 am. I didn’t, stayed in bed and surprisingly fell back asleep eventually once awake very early. It is a great relief to not be up so very early. It happened to me, it can happen for you.

    Your husband didn’t do anything wrong, he is your anger go-to place. You can trust your anger to go there, so next time you feel angry at him, remind yourself: oh, that’s my anger go-to place. If you are still angry at him, ask yourself: did he do anything wrong? Not really..? Well, it’s my anger go-to place.

    I hope today at work is less grueling than yesterday’s 20 min per anesthesia schedule, pushing overweight patients’ beds (aren’t there employees whose job is to do that?)

    anita

     

    #305811
    Cali Chica
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    Anger go to place.Ā  Yes, well you said that it is important I do not lash out at my husband anymore.Ā  And here look – there I go again.

    There is a lot of anger, perhaps maybe time to go back to the exercise, to get back to the angry roots (which are far deeper than of course anger at random people and lack of sleep) – I don’t know.

    Maybe I need a time out – a big one…hmm what does that even mean? God, maybe I do need to go back on some medication? No, I don’t think so – I need to be more mindful, and know my anger-go to place is not right.Ā  He is human, it is stupid to get angry at him for wanting to stay out late when he is stressed.Ā  It is wrong to get angry at him when his cousin treated me poorly in London.Ā  It is wrong of me to accuse of him for being immature – and allowing others to take our energy (horrific wife)

    As far as work, yes less grueling, the physician I am working with is not fast paced or high energy.Ā  Which today, of all days, is a relief.Ā  It will allow me to go slower and rest between cases.Ā  As far as the stretchers – there is not because I am in an outpatient setting (not a hospital) so we don’t have as many staff members, and we turn over much quicker (which is usually a good thing because higher efficiency better hours, no late hours or call).Ā  You win some, you lose some.

    #305815
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Cali Chica:

    When you say “lash out at my husband”, regarding last night, I wonder if you are overstating it. Lashing out is something like raising your voice, yelling, calling names, put downs, sometimes hitting, throwing items at a person. How did you “lash out” at him Sat night and this morning?

    – will attend the rest of your post after you answer.

    anita

    #305817
    Cali Chica
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    This morning I was yelling.Ā  It was like a crazy person talking to themself.Ā  When the dog woke me up I was in such a deep sleep (seldom happens) that I woke up abruptly.Ā  I felt so angry at – at —- my husband! I felt god!!! Why didn’t we put the automatic feeder on with the door closed.Ā  Stupid husband always saying its ok he’s up early anyway! Well I don’t want to be up any earlier!!!! ROAR

    He says its okay I am already up I’ll take care of the dog, you go get ready for work.

    So this triggers me..

    So I YELLED. I yelled and said something like: “god I am sick and tired of not getting sleep it is 5:45 AM, he is a dog – but we need boundaries! Don’t tell me it’s okay you are up anyway, I don’t want to be up earlier!!!!!! Staying out 2 extra hours saturday then up multiple times on Monday night, I can’t take it! I need sleep I need sleep.Ā  I am sick and tired of giving my energy away!”

    He says – why are you yelling at me? I am okay taking care of the dog, that’s why I said that.Ā  Of course we can put the automatic feeder in.Ā  Why are you yelling.

    So in my rage I respond something like: “its not just about now – I am so god d***n sick and tired.Ā  We need boundaries.Ā  We need sleep and energy more than anyone.Ā  Everyone else blood sucking leeches taking away from us, and we preserve nothing! I am sick of it.Ā  That’s it.Ā  If in the future we are out and I say it is time to go, we are leaving.Ā  Just like our freind C (the ones who moved to Florida, his wife is quite “controlling” if lets say we are at a bar and she gives him a “look” he will literally drop his drink or toss it and say gotta go – when she says its time to go he obeys like a puppy) soĀ  I say, we may think C and his wife are this or that, but they’re NOT!!! they are mature adults who know their limits.Ā  When she says its time to go – he says okay and they leave.Ā  They don’t act like 20 year olds running around without sleep.Ā  I don’t want to live that way anymore!!

    I get more angry.Ā  (his friend’s wedding is coming up August 24, and you know how I feel about going to events and especially weddings these days).Ā  I say if at O’s wedding you want to stay out till all hours of the night – be my guest.Ā  I am not coming.Ā  You know what people do – they do what THEY WANT.Ā  You know how on fourth of July the (horrid wife) came and left when she pleased when we had the whole place set up.Ā  who did she worry about?! HERSELF. Who do we worry about, others.Ā  Idiots. Idiots we are.Ā  So let’s say its our wedding, you think O is gonna stay out till 2 am if he and his wife need to work on themselves and there’s trouble in paradise.Ā  You better believe he will be out the second its over.Ā  But you, you will go along with it – you will say oh O wants to go out and do this, so I am going.

    No more, next time we are out and we are tired, and I say its time to go, as in this has been a good night, more is not better – we are leaving.Ā  I don’t want to be that controlling wife like C, but I have reached my limit.Ā  I need sleep and I need us to grow up.

    I was yelling and screaming Anita, enraged at 5:45 AM

    oh and…

    As far as the call thing, Yes I do sleep else where if I know he is on call, the thing about Monday is that those calls were slightly unexpected, it happens – it comes with the job.Ā  It is foolish to get angry at the job.Ā  and even worse to get angry at HIM because of the job.Ā  But as above I was not being rational…

    #305823
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Cali Chica:

    Yes, this morning was a lashing out. Yelling at him and going on and on makes it a lashing out event.

    Here are the complaints you brought to him this morning:Ā he didn’t put the automatic feeder on, he didn’t close door, he said it’s ok he’s-up-early-anyway, he said I’ll-take-the-dog, regarding Mon night:Ā  you were up multiple times, regarding July 4: the horrid wife’s behavior, and in general: you and him are immature people, idiots who don’t know their limits and don’t enforce boundaries (“act like 20 year olds running around without sleep”), other people in your lives are “blood sucking leeches taking away” your energy.

    These are the solutions you proposed:Ā  “If in the future we are out and I say it is time to go, we are leaving… at O’s wedding you want to stay out till all hours of night- be my guest. I am not coming… next time we are out and we are tired, and I say it’s time to go.. we are leaving”.

    Now let’s look at what really enrages you: you are envious of C because “she gives (her husband) a ‘look'(and) he willĀ  literally drop his drink or toss it and say gotta go- when she says it’s time to go he obeys like a puppy”. You are jealous of people who “do what THEY WANT” and of the horrid wife of July 4 who “came and left when she pleased”, who worried about herself (“who did she worry about? HERSELF. Who do we worry about, others. Idiots. Idiots we are”-

    Clearly what is underneath your rage is your childhood experience- and onward- of not doing what you want, or not getting what you want.

    You asserted yourself with him (the solutions you proposed), asserting that you will do what you want in the future. You needed the anger to motivate you to propose these solutions.

    “maybe time to go back to the exercise, to get back to the angry roots”-

    let’s then: tell me what it is you repeatedly wanted most as a child and didn’t get, will you?

    anita

     

     

    #305827
    Anonymous
    Guest

    * I significantly edited my last post to you, if you read the old one, please read the edited one (you can respond to parts of what I edited out if you find it relevant).

     

    #305837
    Cali Chica
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    Clearly what is underneath your rage is your childhood experience- and onward- of not doing what you want, or not getting what you want.

    Yes, yes. so to the exercise,

    tell me what it is you repeatedly wanted most as a child and didnā€™t get, will you?

    Well I would have said I don’t know. Because looking back it didn’t seem that way.Ā  It seemed I was a naughty defiant child that did whatever I want.Ā  Anita, it did not seem at ALL that I did not do what I wanted…

    BUT your answer to the above is correct, it IS in fact based on my childhood experience.Ā  And so clearly I am enraged that others do whatever THEY want, and I time and again don’t.

    I think my anger is this:

    doing anything and everything right and still getting tortured by the mother, getting beat down, having my skull mashed in.Ā  needing an MRI during my fellowship a few years ago because my headaches were so bad.Ā  being told by my program director then that I have great potential but it “seems I have a lot of personal things going on”

    yeah you got that right, personal?! do you have a mother who literally is trying to kill you?

    Looking back this makes me enraged, and also sad for myself.Ā  How often I pushed through Anita.Ā  People would have no clue if they knew the real story.Ā  I am sick and tired of showing up and pushing through.Ā  I am just sick and tired.

    So back to your question, it is hard to see as a child.Ā  But I will say maybe its this:

    as a child I wasn’t allowed to be just a child, I had to be the sounding board to this horrific mother-child.Ā  her therapist, sure i may have been defiant as a child with my own personality – but who is to say that isn’t just a result of the trauma put on me.Ā  i wasn’t some little shy kid that appear all traumatized, but trauma shows up in many ways.Ā  a child deserves to be protected.Ā  i was not protected.

    #305839
    Cali Chica
    Participant

    Also, Anita I can only see the edited version of the post (which is fine) I can not see the prior un-edited.

    And I wanted to add, in my rage I said I don’t want to go to anymore weddings, sick and tired – so he can go on August 24th on his own. maybe this is a good idea…? perhaps

    #305843
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Cali Chica:

    We are not doing the exercise yet, the way we did before. Maybe later.

    Question: growing up as Super Cali Chica, you had it in your mind that you can help and fix your mother, correct, that she needed you so very much and you can be her hero, is that true?

    But when you took charge and carried through any particular plan of being her hero, she tore you to shreds: who are you…look at you, you have problems yourself!

    Is it what happened, that again and again you showed up as the Hero, and treated like a worthless villain, the one (allegedly) needing your help turning into.. something else?

    anita

    #305847
    Cali Chica
    Participant

    Dear Anita,

    Yes this is what happened.Ā  Yes you are right.Ā  tore me to shreds that’s for.Ā  I feel broken down and actual shreds as I type this, I feel sorry for CC as I type this.

     

    …I also feel like everything and everyone (seemingly) is a blood sucking leech, taking away and away from CC.Ā  Poor CC – she wants to scream.Ā  She does.Ā  She did this morning

    • This reply was modified 5 years, 3 months ago by Cali Chica.
    #305857
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Dear Cali Chica:

    If you are ready, let’s resume the exercise:

    Young Cali Chica: tell me about being your mother’s hero. Tell me how it feels to be her hero?

    anita

    #305859
    Cali Chica
    Participant

    my mom has no one, soĀ  im her person. she always says how shes so happy that at least she has me. sometimes my dad is bad to her so then she has no one.Ā  my poor mother she has no one.

    (anita I am having trouble accessing what it “feels” like to be the hero – only thing that comes to mind is above if I channel Young CC)

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