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February 20, 2020 at 9:00 pm #339260
Valora
ParticipantHi Sarah!
I think you have to be careful with those articles on narcissistic personality disorder. The way some of them are written makes practically anyone who is immature, selfish, and ruled by their own ego seem like they have the disorder… when they don’t. And it’s unfortunate that that word is thrown around so much lately, just as much as “empath” seems to be. So many bloggers these days appear to be experts on both, but are they really?
Narcissism exists on a scale, and although someone can be a little further up the scale toward the narcissism side than others, very few actually have the personality disorder. It also takes a specifically-designed psychological eval test and an interview by a licensed psychologist to actually diagnose this disorder. Because it’s tricky.
This guy you’re talking about just sounds really immature. From what you say, he needs attention and validation (which is actually pretty common with social media culture). He likely needs his ego fed externally because he’s missing something internally. He needs to do some growing. You also said he likes drama, which is another sign of immaturity. Immaturity is different than narcissism, even though narcissists also do tend to be immature.
I’m pointing this out, because I want you to know that he may actually have cared about you as a person but just handled things really poorly, as an immature person often does. There are a lot of reasons people don’t let others in emotionally, and his childhood experiences with his dad are likely a big one.
With that said, I think you have a right to feel hurt and upset by this. Rejection feels bad, and you seem to be comparing yourself with his past relationships, but what happened between you and him says nothing about your worth as a person. He clearly has some issues to work through, and there was likely something going on with him in his relationship of 6 months that made him suddenly chase after you so intensely. Given that you started up right after that, he wouldn’t have had a chance to work through whatever those feelings were from that previous relationship (especially if he was bringing up ex-girlfriends… he’s caught up in feelings there still), and that could’ve made him stall out or act distant with you, which, of course, flared up your insecurities. I’m pretty sure emotional distance makes most people feel insecure, so go easy on yourself and just try to find the lesson in this so that it doesn’t repeat.
Do you get paid when you play in the band with him? If so, I would consider it just a job rather than him using you, just for the sake of your own feelings. You play an instrument that is needed in that band, so they asked you if you were available… the same way people are hired in companies who have needed skills. Maybe framing it that way will help you to feel better about playing the gig, but I would probably say no to future gigs as long as your feelings are wrapped up in him. Do you know of anyone else who plays your instrument that could fill in for you?
February 21, 2020 at 8:22 am #339320Anonymous
GuestDear Sarah:
I want to elaborate on part of what Valora expressed so intelligently and eloquently:
Narcistic personality Disorder (NPD) is a mental disorder diagnosis in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition (DSM-5, 2013). Only a health professional, such as a medical doctor or a certified psychotherapist is permitted by law to diagnose a patient with NPD or with any of the hundreds of mental diagnoses listed in the DSM-5, and such professionals have to meet with the patient in-person for a session or sessions so to come up with a diagnosis.
It is estimated (Wikipedia, based on the DSM-5) that 1% of the population fits the NPD diagnosis. Notice, only 1%.
Melody Wilding, an executive coach, licensed social worker nd professor of Human Behavior, stated it well: “As an executive coach and Human Behavior professor, I hear from readers every day who claim that they work with a narcissist. They complain about managers and colleagues who make their work life harder.. Psychologically speaking, narcissism is a personality trait that every person possesses to some degree. Like any characteristic, it exists on a spectrum. We all fall somewhere along the narcissism continuum… However, any personality trait taken to an extreme can become pathological. A person who is excessively high in narcissism is said to have narcissistic personality disorder (NPD), which is a diagnosable mental illness. A person with narcissistic traits may be mildly self- centered at times, but NPD, on the other hand, is a deeply ingrained, pervasive pattern.. to the point where it interferes with normal functioning across a wide range of settings beyond work” (www. business insider. com/ narcissism vs narcissist).
If you look at the diagnostic criteria of the many mental disorders listed in the DSM, you will see that you fit part of the criteria for dozens and dozens of diagnoses, if not more. One way to look at it is that every diagnosis is a spectrum diagnosis and everyone is on that spectrum. In other words, everyone is a narcissist, just as everyone is bi-polar (has highs and lows), everyone is depressed (at times), everyone is dependent, etc. But it doesn’t mean that everyone fits the diagnosis of bi-polar disorder, and/ or major depressive disorder and/ or dependent personality disorder.
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