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April 18, 2020 at 10:04 am #350174User34Participant
Hello!
I came across this forum a week ago, I thought the inputs were valuable and I liked the conversations, so I thought I might help if I share my story too.
2 months ago my over 2 years relationship came to an abrupt end (or so I think). We met at work, and known each other for a year before we got together. Before we started our relationship, I decided to quit that job and we, I think, realised we’ll miss each other and had feelings for one another. In the beginning, he seemed to have a problem with alcohol (he was drinking every day) and seemed depressed, confessed to have suicidal thoughts. He was living with his parents at that time. I tried to tell him that therapy could be useful for him and tried to make him feel better about himself. I also communicated with his friends and family about this. During the 2 years, he had a few problems and fights with coworkers, parents when he was drinking, and soon we started to fight too about this. When he was not drinking we were getting along and I loved hanging out with him. He promised a lot of times that we will get better and he will try to solve it, but then it started again and he became verbally aggressive towards me when drinking.
After a while, a few weeks before we split, he went to see a therapist. He was very excited, loved it, and was feeling better already. 2 weeks after the first session, he broke up with me via text message, right after we worked together to arrange his new place where he moved alone. In the same day, we were making plans for the summer.
It was very weird to me, as I was confident and happy thinking that we will be happy and eventually move in together. He said that we don’t match, and that therapist told him it was correct to do so. I don’t thing I managed to understand, I can agree that maybe it was not the best match between us, but I thought we both care about each other, and that he is at least my friend. After our breakup, he moved with a coworker within 2/3 weeks in his new apartment. This girl I also knew (they were supposed to be my friends too), she and her other coworker were “best friends” with him, always talking including about our relationship. She and him had a few weird moments and comments (including sexual ones), where I was hurt, but they all assured me that it is just a platonic friendship. He said that he loves me deeply, that he would kill himself if we split up and things lie that.. Which I think now it is not healthy at all.
My question is, although..how can I better understand this and how could this happen so fast? I really wish he would just have had a face to face conversation with me and be honest.. we are both in our 20’s, I know it is not unbearable, but it still hurts and if anyone has some advice about how I could put things in a better perspective, please do. Thank you!
April 18, 2020 at 11:29 am #350250AnonymousGuestDear User34:
You wrote that in the beginning of the relationship he was living with his parents, and that he was depressed and considered suicide. You wrote then that you “communicated with his friends and family about this”, this being his depression, suicidal ideation and drinking.
To understand better, I ask: do you mean that you talked to his parents about his depression etc., and if so: were the talks done in your boyfriend’s presence, what is it that you told his parents, and what was your boyfriend’s reaction to you talking to his parents about him?
anita
April 18, 2020 at 11:36 am #350254User34ParticipantHello Anita,
Thank you for the reply. I was not discussing this with his parents in his presence. I was mainly trying to understand what was happening, and we were mainly discussing how we could make the situation better for him.. However, this was quite difficult for me to manage. Until the last weeks of our relationship, he did not wanted to see a therapist (he said it was stupid and it would not help him at all). I was and still am seeing a therapist, to overcome my own problems, and I tried to explain to him that it is sometimes very helpful, you just need to find someone who suits you. I did not do an “intervention”, but his parents sometimes did something similar when his drinking got very bad. I usually tried to talk to him alone, but as time passed by I was more and more scared about his drinking, and did not react well to it.
Hope I answered the questions, thank you again.
April 18, 2020 at 11:52 am #350262AnonymousGuestDear User34:
“I also communicated with his .. family about this… I was mainly trying to understand what was happening, and we were mainly discussing how we could make the situation better for him”-
– meaning that you and his parents, outside his presence, discussed how to help him, as a team?
If so, were the discussions done in secret, or did he know about those?
I am asking this because this may be a very problematic issue: a big part of his depression may be because he was living with his parents, and if you teamed up with his parents, then you became part of the Problem for him, not part of a solution, for him.
anita
April 18, 2020 at 11:55 am #350264User34ParticipantNo, he did not know, I think, about the discussion. I am sorry if I became a part of the problem for him.. There were not concrete actions done.. I was mainly trying to offer support for them and for him too..
April 18, 2020 at 11:57 am #350268User34ParticipantAt that moment it was not possible for him to move out.. As soon as this came to a solution, I offered my support to help, to decorate, to encourage him to do what is good for him
April 18, 2020 at 12:05 pm #350272InkyParticipantHi User34,
My gut feeling on this is you dodged a bullet. Let the fun loving coworker live with him, deal with his drinking, depression, suicidal thoughts and his anger, all the while he blames his therapist for any of his problematic decisions! Then after one juicy fight when she realizes he’s not fun anymore, he will high tail it back to his parents leaving her to deal with all the rent and bills. During a pandemic.
You need someone independent and happy.
Stay Healthy,
Inky
April 18, 2020 at 12:13 pm #350278AnonymousGuestDear User34:
I don’t know if you became part of the problem for him. What I am saying is that if his parents were a problem for him, and if you joined his parents as a team, then you became a problem for him.
He’s been troubled for a while, depressed, “has a few problems and fights with coworkers, parents.. and soon we started to fight too”, later he was excited about therapy, then he broke up with you, then moved in with a female co worker, if I understand correctly, who may be his lover.
A very depressed person gets desperate, reaching out for anything that will make him/ her feel better. I wish he did sit and talk with you, so that you can have the opportunity to understand what motivated him to break up with you.
Did he refuse to have such a conversation with you?
anita
April 18, 2020 at 12:26 pm #350288User34ParticipantInky, thank you for your reply. Some of my friends who knew us both said something similar, but I still do miss him.
Anita, yes, this coworker is also his lover. We did not had a face to face conversation. He proposed this the day after (and said we could meet anytime if I would want beacause there were a lot of things to say) he texted me to break up but I refused, as I was really crushed. A day after, I texted him to ask him if this was still possible, but he said no because he set something in his mind. (I don’t know why and what it was). Then the Covid 19 came and this was not possible anyway.
We talked a bit via text message, he just that the therapist made him see how unsuitable we were and that she knew he would do that. He also said to me, I don’t know why, that he drank for 3 weeks after the break up (“not because he is alcoholic-I don’t think I called him that-but because it was something I would not let him do”), that he was with some 10 years older woman and than he moved and started a relationship with this coworker, that he was happy, and I should be happy for him, and not dramatic.
April 18, 2020 at 12:31 pm #350296User34ParticipantHe probably considered this a long time ago.. I just can’t seem to understand why we were still making plans if he was planning this already.. I also think that he was not depressed anymore, those suicidal things stopped a while ago.. And when he was sober he seemed to be happy with me
April 18, 2020 at 12:35 pm #350298AnonymousGuestDear User34:
“He also said to me.. that he was with some 10 years older woman and then he moved and stared a relationship with his coworker, that he was happy, and I should be happy for him, and not dramatic“-
– reads to me that he is .. somewhat out of his mind, crazy, because it is very unreasonable for a man who broke up with a girlfriend of two years, then telling her that he was with another woman after the breakup and then moved in with yet another woman, so soon after the breakup, and then ask the woman he broke up with to be happy for him, and to .. not be dramatic about his very dramatic and quickly executed recent choices.
Maybe he is on drugs, maybe he is drinking way too much.. doesn’t read like he is all there.
anita
April 18, 2020 at 12:50 pm #350306User34ParticipantAnita, thank you again for your reply. I am not sure what is happening, I was thinking about some sort of rebound(s), but they do seem to be happy. He even gave her the slippers we bought for me to wear in his appartament. I know it seems a stupid thing to think about, but to me it is like he replaced everything in a heartbeat. When not drinking, usually he is a nice guy, seems calm and friendly and understanding.. But then.. He also asked me to move in with him in our first week, but I refused, since I thought it was too soon..
April 18, 2020 at 12:53 pm #350308User34ParticipantThank you for making me feel less crazy and overly dramatic.
April 18, 2020 at 1:20 pm #350320AnonymousGuestDear User34:
You are welcome. I don’t think he is well, and there is no way that his current relationship is healthy. It will be a miracle, I figure, if it lasts long, and even a bigger miracle if it becomes a healthy relationship.
Mental health is not so common. Better you keep your mental health best you can. What’s next for you?
anita
April 18, 2020 at 1:44 pm #350340User34ParticipantDear Anita,
I am not sure what will be. At the moment, I think I am trying not to get depressed and keep the rest of my life together somehow. I started reading topics about toxic relationships, I also talk to my therapist. I try not to think about him too much, and not blame myself but sometimes fail.
I hope things will get better, for everyone, as soon as possible.
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