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January 16, 2019 at 11:04 am #274969
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GuestDear madxx:
Before I list all the reasons why living with his mother and him is a bad idea, I want to understand better one of the items that I will list: you wrote,”I sat through many of their arguments”- what were those arguments about, how did they start, who started them, who said what? An example or two will help.
anita
January 16, 2019 at 11:49 am #274981madxx
ParticipantSure, here are some examples for you.
One time I was sitting in the car and my boyfriend asked his mother if she wanted him to move something in the living room upstairs.. all of the sudden she screamed at him telling him she didn’t know where she wanted it and not to touch it and that it didn’t need to move yet. In response he started yelling at her why she was freaking out and she would say he was yelling at her and it just would escalate from there.
I took these arguments are part of the grieving process.
Another one started because my boyfriend wasn’t able to find something. This happened a bunch of times. Usually it is clothes. He can’t find socks or under shirts or pants or whatever it is. He starts freaking out and they start yelling at each other about it.
It’s not like the typical irritation, it is like full blown yelling. Just completely over the top and about really simple and easy fixes.
Once again though, I took it as part of the grieving process. I hope this helps.
January 16, 2019 at 10:38 pm #275075nextsteps
ParticipantHello Madxx,
I wanted to write as I have been in a similar situation so wanted to offer my two cents/experience in case it helped.
I moved in with my long term boyfriend at 21 with his mum. We lived in his famg home which he was not going to leave.
In my case the situation was messy as the rest of the family called me a gold digger etc for buying the house with him, as his mum helped us out alot with the deposit so he could live there. His mum is nice with a kind bheart but also very dependent on him and at times manipulative to him and they do bicker eg revert to childhood ways when together.
I knew in my gut i didnt want to move in/buy the house at so young. I felt it came with alot kf pressure of being a house wife, having children which i wasnt ready for. Some members of th family talking behind my bacj wasnt fun (and bothered me more than it should) and i felt judged if i changed anything about the house, as it wasnt “how it was”.
I expressed my feelings to my boyfriend an rhey were wiped under the carpet and not acknowledged. I felt like to please him i HAD ro buy the house, but i also resented him for not listening to me, or hearing how i felt. He was so set on buying the house it didnt seem to matter about how i thought. He was doing his life plan anyway. I wish i had made him pause and hold off a while OR rent somewhere else away from his family.
It is only in the past few years i have tried to find myself and i wish i had the courage to do that sooner and believe my gut feelings/hestiation were important. I was made to feel crazy and guilty for not wanting to buy the house when actually i think iy pointed to issues about our relationship.
So my advice would be please please please listen to your gut. It is hard living in a threes a crowd situation, and it sounds like he is not hnderstanding how you feel. He also argues with his mum which you wouldnt be able to avoid if you lived there all the time. It sounds like it would mak you miserable, i certainly sas, so please make him see you properly before jumping into this.
All the best of luck.
January 17, 2019 at 2:12 am #275081Kkasxo
ParticipantMadxx and Nextsteps,
Sorry I don’t have much to say in regards to the moving in situation except to follow your gut feeling/intuition, it is literally our most valued mechanism and us humans based their survival on this thousands of years ago, we need to learn to trust it more in the here and now!
I just wanted to pop my head in as the mother-son co-dependency is so so relevant to me with my ex boyfriend! Gosh, I honestly didn’t think it happened this much! Despite being together many years and me wanting for our relationship to progress my ex was very much one to try and stay at his family home as long as possible. His mother and father are extremely dependant on him financially, may I add that she refuses to work, there is nothing wrong with her, she say’s she has to ‘look after the house and the kids’, her youngest is 21… Please tell me what kids?! His father already works 6/7 days a week so there is nothing he can physically do to bring in more money. But that isn’t all, his mother depends on him for everything, trips to the doctors, taking her to and from bingo because how dare she use public transport, shopping trips. If he ever makes plans of his own she will make him feel guilty as there is no shopping done for the house, or she needed him to drop her somewhere etc. He is so stuck in this cycle of co-dependency and manipulation but he refuses to walk away from it.
I understand your situation may be slightly different as his father has sadly passed away so it is somewhat understandable that his mother has become reliant on him, however I can tell you first hand that whatever plans it is you two spoke of before this event, they’re not happening. Not now, not anytime soon and maybe not ever.. He has been quite clear about this too so you have to take his word and accept this as true.
Whether that is enough to leave your 6 year relationship to pursue your dreams? I think it is something only you will be able to answer. But just know that his mother’s dependency will not end here, it is likely that it will continue well into your future together, as unfortunate as it is!
January 17, 2019 at 11:42 am #275175Anonymous
GuestDear madxx:
I don’t think the situation at his home before his father died two years ago was fine and dandy, then he died, and the two, your boyfriend and his mother are adjusting to a life without his father, going through a grieving process that includes “completely over the top” yelling at each other.
Maybe his mother yelled before too, at her husband and at her son.
What is likely is that she will yell as well when you move in, if you moved in. She yelling, him yelling, maybe you yelling too, will be a daily experience. This is a huge reason for you to not move in. Especially because the arrangement is permanent: she has no plans to let him go (“his mother isn’t really doing anything to dissuade him from living with her”) and he “stated bluntly that .. he planned on living with her forever“.
When he told you: “I’m with my mom forever, but you might leave me”- reads like something she told him. I can hear her, in my mind’s ear, saying this very same thing to him while you are living there. Which eventually will come true, you leaving this impossible situation while indeed his mother will be there forever, driving your boyfriend crazy.
anita
January 17, 2019 at 3:17 pm #275253madxx
ParticipantNextsteps,
Thank you so much for your comment! I’m happy/sad to hear someone who is or has been in a similar situation to me. His mom is just as sweet, such a giving woman, too giving, but definitely manipulative. When he talks to me I definitely hear his mom words mingled in with his. Sometimes I have to ask him if those are his words or his moms… very frustrating.
I also do feel those pressures of settling down and becoming a mother/house wife, which terrifies me as a 24 year old. His mother does a lot of things for him and I was not raised that way. Sometimes I wonder “Does he expect me to have to do that for him one day?”.. Absolutely not.. My parents raised me very independently and to do things myself and to take care of myself. Although I’m fine with helping out with stuff and switching off, I refuse to baby him.
I feel the exact same way about the house and its decorations… They just got everything renovated and painted the way they like. This is what started our fight in the summer because I hated being over their house and didn’t care much about their renovations because it was like a slap in the face. Here I am, trying to figure out plans for the future and here are him and his mom crafting his future home. What am I? Chopped liver? I really questioned whether or not he even saw me in his future because he wasn’t asking my opinion on anything or even thinking of me in general. It was just about what him and his mom wanted (third wheel here). I just don’t know. This topic still really upsets me.
He’s an only child, so I don’t really have to siblings to worry about, but I do get a knot in my stomach because his mother is allowing me to live their rent free for the time being. I feel like instead of taking steps forward into adulthood, I’m taking 10 steps backward.
Despite all this…. I feel as if my gut is telling me I just need to follow through on this and try it out to show him whether or not it works out. I feel like he will never take what I say seriously unless he see’s it with his own eyes. I plan to talk with him before hand to reiterate what had already talked about and to say that if things don’t work out and I find myself getting resentful or stuck I’m going to move out. I already have a back up plan in my pocket, just in case.
I know him and his mom are in an unimaginable situation so it seems silly to me to just break up with him after 6 years of being together and I really do love him. If I find it isn’t a good environment for me though, which I am good usually at detecting, I will move out.
Thank you once again for your advice. I really appreciate it.
KKasxo,
Yeah… I know the plans aren’t going to happen. Lately I have been making plans for myself, since he seems to be making decisions for himself without including me in them.
His mother isn’t financially dependent on him.. yet.. though I suspect him wanting to go to nursing school has a lot to do about having a good job to support her in the future. She’s a very nice woman though, she does everything for everyone and never asks for anything in return, which makes me feel guilty for being angry with her, but I feel like this may be part of the manipulation. So nice and sweet and giving, though she drives you mad, you can’t stay mad at her.
I told him I’d like to live in a different state for a few months repeatedly, but I don’t think he’s really heard me on that.. at all.. or just isn’t taking me very seriously. I have made a decision to live with him up until he goes to nursing school and if it isn’t working out, then I may go live somewhere else for a few months, while he’s in school. I’m going to be very clear about this so there isn’t any sort of hurt feelings later on.
I feel as if I am missing something in their relationship. I feel as if I live with them for a little while I’ll be able to make a clearer decision. I’m not sure how far the dependency is yet and I need to know to see whether or not I want to still be with him or not.
Thank you for your insight and taking the time to read my story!
Anita,
Wow, you nailed me on the head. I’m laughing pretty hard right now.
Yeah, there definitely were problems there in the family before his father died, but I feel as if they have escalated since then. The dad was sort of the voice of reason and without it, those two are just a little neurotic.
Like I said previously though, I think I really need to see this more first hand. Maybe me moving in will help them move on a little more. Make his mom see that she needs to let go of her grip on him if our relationship starts to crumble. If I break up with him, I know she will understand and see why, but act like she doesn’t. I can already see all the lies and fake innocence in her voice. Drives me insane.
If he says that to me again, “Well you can still leave me,” I will actually leave him, because that is completely unfair, now looking back at it. There have been a lot of unfair things in this relationship. I’ve been patient and put up with a lot, but that’s going to have to stop now and he’s going to have to start listening to me and including me on his future plans, otherwise this relationship isn’t going to last. :/
Thank you very very much for you input. It was something I definitely needed to hear.
January 17, 2019 at 6:13 pm #275265Mark
Participantmadxx,
Your bf is clear on his priorities. It’s good that he is direct and honest with you on that so you can make informed decisions of your own life.
You said: I feel like, if I don’t try and move in I will regret it, but I also sort of feel like if I move in I will be wasting my time and his. I want it to work out, but also, if it doesn’t, I want him to see that it didn’t rather than leaving it up to the unknown. Does that make sense? … I feel like instead of taking steps forward into adulthood, I’m taking 10 steps backward.
One of the most common things people say on their death bed is that “I wish I’d the courage to live a life true to myself, not the life others expected of me.”
You have very specific and clear life goals. You are young. You do not have children nor married.
This is your life, not his. Sometimes our partner’s life goes in a different direction or they changed. That’s life and people. You are at a decision point in your young life. Many times you can’t have it all, i.e. boyfriend and growing up, expanding yourself into the world.
You can discuss, canjole, whine, and threaten with you boyfriend till the cows come home. It is ultimately up to you to take charge of your life and take action.
Mark
January 18, 2019 at 10:26 am #275393Anonymous
GuestDear maddx:
“The dad was sort of the voice of reason and without it, those two are just a little neurotic”- more likely he submitted to his wife’s power over him, so that satisfied her, she didn’t feel the urge she feels now to exert that much power over her son, as she does now.
Reads to me that you are somewhat aware that she is manipulative yet you are not fully aware, you are somewhat confused: “His mom is just as sweet, such a giving woman, too giving”- well, she successfully manipulated you. You don’t see her as a woman who appears sweet and giving, you see her as a sweet and giving woman.
Here is another indication of your own confusion, of her successful manipulation of you: “She’s a very nice woman though, she does everything for everyone and never asks for anything in return”. You don’t see her as a woman who appears very nice and who does everything for her son and asks for his whole life in return.
You “feel guilty for being angry at her”, success for her. (Her son feels guilty too for feeling angry at her).
“his mother is allowing me to live their rent free for the time being”, to have power over you. I can hear her saying later, in my mind’s ear: I welcomed her to my home, rent free, I cooked for her, I cleaned after her and she had the nerve to…
“I feel as if I live with them for a little while I’ll be able to make a clearer decision… I can already see all the lies and fake innocence in her voice. Drives me insane”- basically you are planning to move in with them rent free for the pleasure of the experience of further insanity.
You are already confused, knowing-and-not-knowing that she is manipulative, seeing her fake innocence and believing it at the same time. Your plan is to move in with them, get even more confused and in that state of increased confusion, be then “able to make a clearer decision”.
anita
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