November 6, 2019 at 2:51 pm #321823
I attempted a dropshipping business this year, which failed. I learned a lot but it just didn’t work out.
I graduated with a degree in psychology last year, and I am quite confident deep down that I should be able to utilise it in a new business.
I was a volunteer telephone counsellor for 2 years, and have always been someone that others turn to for advice and guidance, having myself overcame substance abuse 9 years ago. I’m also super confident and positive pretty much all the time, to the point that colleagues have sometimes said I could be a motivational speaker.
This is where I start to think that perhaps some sort of advice business or life coaching type business would be a good idea.
Can anyone help me with some pointers as to where to start? Or how I begin to put all this together?
DanNovember 7, 2019 at 8:24 am #321965
Welcome back! I noticed your thread yesterday but I have no business background, so don’t have pointers for you.
“some sort of advice business or life coaching type business”- would you like to elaborate on that? Maybe I will have a thought or two about it.
anitaNovember 7, 2019 at 2:35 pm #321997
I’ll make some brief points as to why I think a coaching business of some sort could work and why I believe I’d be good at it..
After all the things I’ve been through and the experiences I’ve had, I’m actually now at the peak of my own life, having built it from rock-bottom, and I mean drug-addicted, jobless, worthless, friendless, miserable, insufferably sad and hopeless rock-bottom.
I believe this puts me in a strong position regarding the idea of being a life/personal development coach or something along the lines. Because I’ve done it all myself, and therefore not attempting to “teach” people something I’ve read from a book or learned on a course, if you know what I mean.
DannyNovember 7, 2019 at 3:49 pm #322003
I will reply to your recent post (and anything you may add to it before I return) when I am back to the computer in about 14 hours from now.
anitaNovember 8, 2019 at 7:36 am #322117
Dear Dan/ Danny:
(Which name do you prefer?)
I just went through all your posts in your previous four threads starting February 2014, almost six years ago. I think (in my non-professional opinion) that you demonstrated during these years, here on tiny buddha, a lot of what it would take for a life coach to be successful, specifically coaching individuals who struggle with long-term intense anger. You were very responsive to members who replied to you, always gracious to members, never directing your anger at any member. Although you suffered a lot from ongoing anger, you returned to a positive attitude repeatedly and tried various ways to reduce your anger and manage it well and you were successful at it.
I understand that working as a life coach is unregulated, unlike working as a certified public school teacher or counselor, for example. It has a lot to do with self promotion. We can talk about this more, if you want.
Back to my study of your posts today, I put together quotes from what you shared, 2014-2019, with the aim of showing you, in your own words, what may qualify you to coach others in groups or individually. Would you like me to send those to you, as well as my comments on your quotes?
November 8, 2019 at 3:39 pm #322187
- This reply was modified 7 months, 4 weeks ago by anita.
Hi Anita, I prefer Danny but I don’t mind either,
You have always been so helpful and insightful to me on here more than anyone else. Matt did try hard to help back in 2014 and then I never heard anything from him again. In 2014 I was however, still very much still incredible pain, so perhaps he knew he’d done all he could and could help me no more until I had moved on a bit.
As for the collection of quotes you’ve put together, I’d be absolutely delighted to see them. Like I said you’ve always been of great help to me. Thanks for taking the time to do so!
Danny.November 8, 2019 at 4:34 pm #322189
You are welcome and thank you for your kind words. I will paste the quotes I collected earlier but not any of my comments because I need to be away from the computer for about 13 hours. The comments I made in my previous post to you were things that came to my mind as I collected the following quotes. You can let me know of your thoughts about these and we can continue to communicate tomorrow (about 13 hours from now):
Feb 2014: “I’ve been angry so long that it has become a part of me…I am not a violent abusive person despite what you might have perceived. I do accept that I have probably sounded so..I’m not a bad person. I’m a good person, who has been treated badly…I moved away in the first place to a big city where there are millions of opportunities, I have started doing a degree in psychology, I took up boxing which is my favorite sport & is an outlet for my frustration, I am meeting new people & new girls regularly, I have made new friends.
Sept 2014: “I know I haven’t truly & fully let go of that anger & hate because sometimes it still pops back in ..I do have loads of positive things going on in my life, it’s just I know this issue still burns underneath it all, because I feel it every so often… My counsellor told me it’s not about trying to remove the memories, but about changing the way I approach & think about them, so for example rather than getting all angry when thinking, just accept the thought, remember that I’ve already felt this anger before many times & it isn’t serving me well, then move on.. I’ve lots going on with new studies of child development & sports psychology starting in less than 2 weeks. I’ve also taken up a breakdancing class haha so I’m looking forward to spinning round on my head & all that.. breakdancing. I’ve always been interested in doing it & then a few weeks ago I decided to just go for it & booked a 3 month course, which began 3 hours after my final exam for a module. So it was also a treat for my hard work & effort over the year.
I can honestly say that all the hurt is subsiding. It does take time, hell it takes time. It’s such a slow process but it’s better than remaining stuck in bitterness forever. If I hadn’t taken certain steps I wouldn’t be so fortunate, primarily me moving away. If I hadn’t done so things would have been very different…I also stumbled upon something a few months ago called “Emotional refocusing techniques” which you use in the moment when you feel stress/ anxiety/ anger/ etc. creeping in; you stop in your tracks & take a time out, breath deeply while focusing all your energy on the area around your heart, make a sincere effort to activate a positive feeling, ask yourself what would be an efficient, effective attitude or action that would balance & de-stress your system, then quietly sense any change in perception or feeling, & sustain it as long as you can.
Dec 2014: “Did the counselling work? No. I still get mad at the past…It would be nice for the pain & bitterness to be permanently gone but the sad thing is I think I’ve had to accept that I’m going to get angry every now & again & that’s just the way it is for me…I’ll keep trying to let go though. I’ll keep on keeping on & living as well as I can despite the underlying bitterness & resentment I have.
Jan 2015: “I was considering doing more counselling in the new year but I think it’s possible that’s just going to keep me in hurt mode, where I’m rehashing all the details of what I’m angry & bitter about. I’ll just end up leaving the room worse than when I entered because all the feeling that come with the memories will have been resurrected. If I find that I do really need to do more counselling then I will… I also think all the hate I’ve been harbouring has been stopping the right woman coming into my life. Now that I’ve let go lets see if I’m right.. I’m not allowing the hate to consume me any longer. 3 years is long enough. I may still get angry now & again if I think about it but I won’t allow it to fill my soul.
I want to be truly happy & find the woman of my dreams. I know it’s not possible to do that whilst harbouring hate…I agree my son doesn’t deserve an angry father.
I want to beat the fuck out of that guy. I do imagine that if our paths cross outside my child being with him, that I’ll drag him out of his car & bite lumps out of his face. I’m sorry for sounding like a nutter… All the old feelings of hate & bitterness have resurfaced & for the past few hours I’ve been having a mild anxiety attack…I have things to keep me busy & productive for example today & tomorrow I am doing a suicide intervention course as part of my new job training. I have my studies, self development reading, meditation, exercise. I’m just really trying hard not to allow this dark cloud back into my life.. I’ve struggled with bitterness & hatred for almost 4 years now… I have hated with biblical proportions… I do still sometimes feel I still want revenge.. There is something called the emotional freedom technique where you tap on various body parts while repeating affirmations or something like that. It sounds like something definitely worth trying as it is focused on freeing you permanently from emotional pains. Anyone know of it? Note : I have things going on in my life like the degree I’m studying, I train boxing (which releases frustration), I started breakdance & from next month I’ll be doing it 6 hours a week, I read, I walk. Basically I do have things to keep me occupied. But I’m always hurting inside.
April 2015: “Up until the turn of the year it was a regular boiling rage inside & now it is not so much. In fact only very briefly I think about it for a minute or 2 then forget about it again. Deep down it’ll probably always be there but I’m doing well in not allowing it to control my emotions any more…Deep down, it’s there. I’m doing amazingly well with progress in regards to letting go of the anger… I like doing the EFT & meditation I believe it really is helping my inner peace.
July 2015: “My mother abandoned me when I was around 10 to 12 years old. She had an affair & dumped my dad…I began drinking & taking drugs from a very young age, 10 years old (smoking, abusing solvents & cannabis from even younger than 10)..I probably enjoyed doing those things to blank out the pain of what happened… the drink, the drugs, becoming out of control ..it was a form of abandonment & rejection on my mother’s part… Mum eventually had the affair & we all separated. After a few years, when I was heavily into hard drugs, mum herself became an alcoholic. For years I would barely see her, I think I’ve probably gone 2 years without seeing her on one occasion, but I was busy being addicted to ecstasy, speed & cocaine, living a wild & hectic life… I gave up all drugs 5 years ago, in fact it’s my 5 year anniversary on Saturday the 1st of August & now I work against drugs helping educate kids on their dangers…I have decided I need help & I am going to seek out CBT or something similar with proven effective practical techniques that assist healing, as opposed to just talking about the pain therefore resurfacing it all.
Dec 2015: “Life is great and to be truly honest, all the amazing things I have in my life now in my career and more, are a direct result of what she did, because I utilised that pain and turned my life around. It’s bittersweet because it came from such hurt, but here I am.
Jan 2017: “I DO feel about 80% less anger than I used to a few years ago. This is a very positive thing because the pain I used to feel as a result of all the burning rage was literally cremating my soul…but the memories never truly fade. And somewhere deep inside that craving for revenge against the men involved will linger. However, life is good and always getting better. I have major plans for the future.
Sept 2018: “I’m not the person i used to be. I’m not that p****d off, furious guy anymore. I work for a good company. I’m starting my own business soon.
Oct 2018: “Deep down part of me still wants revenge.
Nov 2018: “I’m already a bachelor, and I intend to be forever. I just can’t wait to be a wealthy one. I’m doing it for me, but I want her to know and realise I became so as a result of her doings, and that will be bittersweet for her, I hope… I’m about to launch my first ever business, which is – initially at least – going to be based online. I’m really excited about it. This is actually one of the long term positives that came out of my past misery, since this is the next chapter of the life I’ve been building ever since the dark days when I got hurt in all those ways.
April 2019: “Luckily I have a lot going on in my life and I am happy. With much more happier times on the way, as I will one day sooner rather than later be able to resign and be my own boss. ..I’m always progressing and developing both professionally and in my personal life. ..I’ve been reading Tony Robbins book Awaken the Giant Within ..In it, he talks about and teaches through examples of how we can change how we see, think and interpret things.
May 2019: “I am living honestly and responsibly. .. I’m developing professionally and as a person, got my driving license, lost 40lbs at the gym, made many new friends, and I’m building my own business. I don’t have the dark cloud and burning rage of 2014 still hanging over me….being a volunteer telephone counsellor for children and young people a over a period of 2 years through 2016/2018.
July 2019: “A new girl started in our office, she’s going to be on my team.. She’s the sister of one of the managers.. I’m literally sat beside her all day long coaching her and being her fall- back as she talks to customers on the phone… It does pain me to leave at this time, but it’s a project I just can’t afford to miss out on as it’s worth 5k…I’m just going to do my best to train her as best I can over the next 2 days so that she’s more confident in the job, because as I’m leaving for 3 weeks
August 2019: “I’ve worked at a company for 4 years…I’ve envisioned scenes where I crack and give him a piece of my mind, but I’m a very positive person and everyone in the office knows I am and they like this particular trait of mine. In fact I’m taking my “friends” criticism and using it to my advantage – because people who bring you down make you more determined to prove them wrong.
What would anyone do in my situation? Or has anyone perhaps been in a similar situation? I do plan on leaving at some point as soon as I’m able to support myself financially, but I don’t want to have to leave prematurely due to my irritant friend.
Nov 2019: “I attempted a dropshipping business this year, which failed. I learned a lot but it just didn’t work out. I graduated with a degree in psychology last year, and I am quite confident deep down that I should be able to utilise it in a new business. I was a volunteer telephone counsellor for 2 years, and have always been someone that others turn to for advice and guidance, having myself overcame substance abuse 9 years ago. I’m also super confident and positive pretty much all the time, to the point that colleagues have sometimes said I could be a motivational speaker. This is where I start to think that perhaps some sort of advice business or life coaching type business would be a good idea.
anitaNovember 9, 2019 at 7:05 am #322231
First, regarding you becoming a business coach- you have to own your own successful business first if you are to coach other people on the issue of becoming successful business owners.
Regarding you becoming a life coach- it is an unregulated business, meaning it is different from regulated business such as becoming a public school teacher- you know ahead of time what steps you have to take, what exams to pass, what training is ahead of you, what income you will make once you start working; you complete all the steps and you are pretty much guaranteed, if all goes well, a job with the income you knew about.
This is not the case if you take on life coaching- no established steps, no exams, you have to promote yourself somehow… don’t know how to do it, never tried. I figure as a beginning or wanna-be life coach, it is difficult to get one person to pay you once. But it is way more difficult to get that first client to pay you a second time, and then a third, and regularly, and then to get enough clients to pay you regularly so that you can have a reliable income that is adequate. In the past you expressed your desire to be rich. I imagine it is not easy or common to get rich doing life coaching.
First thing for you to do in the aim of becoming a life coach is to get one yourself. A student in psychotherapy school in the U.S., at least, has to attend psychotherapy himself as part of his schooling. Similarly, a life coach student (in an unregulated, self-determined schooling) has to attend life coaching first, before becoming a life coach. The life coach you hire should help you figure out if you indeed want to be a life coach and what steps to take, then guide you throughout the process of taking these steps.
Regarding the list of quotes, again, to note: you were gracious and kind every single time you responded to members who replied to you, and this is very impressive. Also, you tried different things to lessen your anger over time: counseling, different therapeutic methods, boxing, breakdancing, losing weight, exercise and more; you furthered your education (including educating kids about the dangers of drugs, following you successfully ending your own early life and long term drug use, and “being a volunteer telephone counselor for children and young people for over a period of 2 years”), you were employed for years, and you successfully lessened your anger- all these are also very impressive.
Here is a fascinating thing: you completed a degree in psychology, had “lots going on with new studies of child development“, and yet you expressed to me that you don’t see the connection between your years long intense anger (lessened over time because of your efforts), hate of “biblical proportions”, with the fact that your mother had an affair when you were a young boy, an affair that caused the split of your family, an affair that caused you to start “drinking & taking drugs from a very young age, 10 years old.. to blank out the pain of what happened”-
I’d say that when you stated that you don’t feel angry at your mother at all, that what she did has nothing to do with your anger, and that you studied psychology and child development, and yet you do not see the connection- that is denial of biblical proportions.
But I am no stranger to denial myself, so I will not judge you.
anitaNovember 15, 2019 at 3:54 pm #323165
Anita, thank you so much for once again providing me with such a deeply though provoking breakdown and analysis of my posts throughout the last 5 years. I really appreciate it I mean that.
I have some potentially exciting news though, which I will post below..November 15, 2019 at 3:54 pm #323167
I applied for a new job that popped up this week, as a Junior Psychologist.
Not clinical though. I’ll post the first line of the job description..
[I]”To carry out comprehensive psychological research literature reviews, pertaining to the competencies and psychological variables included in the psychometric assessments. Production of robustly designed project plans to trial and develop tests.”[/I]
There’s a bunch of other variations of similar sounding stuff. The criteria itself for the candidate are simple, which I have all of..
-BSc Hons in Psychology
-Ability to work in a team and independently
It sounds fun and way more stimulating than my current job, which I’m bored stupid with. I sent my application on Tuesday and received and online assessment the next day.
I had to do a bunch of online psychometric and personality assessments. Which was quite fun but appropriately ironic, given that it seems the company themselves specialise in these tests.
It sounds like a more fulfilling and suitable job for me, someone who’s an eager student of psychology.
I’d really love to get this job.November 15, 2019 at 4:48 pm #323171
You are very welcome. This job looks interesting, exciting, really, and I do hope you get it. I want to look at the job description more thoroughly tomorrow morning and reply to you then, in about 13 hours from now.
anitaNovember 16, 2019 at 7:42 am #323207
Wikipedia has an entry on Psychometrics. It states that psychometrics is a field of study devoted to the “objective measurement of skills and knowledge, abilities, attitudes, personality traits and educational achievement”. It states: “Practitioners are described as psychometricians… most are psychologists with advanced graduate training. In addition to traditional academic institutions, many psychometricians work for the government or in human resources departments. Others specialize as learning and development professionals”.
The job you applied for is titled “a junior psychologist”, not a psychometrician I suppose, because you don’t have the advanced graduate training that is required. Like you wrote, it is “Not clinical”. I wonder what practically the job entails, what is it practically that you will be doing. I also wonder if this job will help your resume toward a future, better paying job. Also, I wonder how far you can go with the bachelor degree you do have and if you will need an advanced degree to proceed in a career in your field.
I hope you let me know what happens next..!
anitaNovember 16, 2019 at 7:43 am #323209
Hi Anita, in that case I think it will be usefull for me to post the entire job description..
To carry out comprehensive psychological research literature reviews, pertaining to the competencies and psychological variables included in the psychometric assessments.
Production of robustly designed project plans to trial and develop tests.
Series of documents containing a sound sampling framework and ethical and practical approval protocols for access to participants across a diverse range of business sectors and levels.
Collecting database containing normative data that reflects the diverse range of occupations, roles, and positions at all levels, across a wide range of business and industry.
New and innovative tests, test formats, and delivery modes that reflect the competency model across the range of organisations, roles, functions and tasks.
Analyses of the data produced in published format including the technical results from the data in form of technical manuals for customer use and publications into scientific journals.
Danny.November 16, 2019 at 7:52 am #323211
If this job pays as much as clerical jobs, it may be a clerical job. The job of an advanced degree psychometrician may be clerical in some ways. I wonder if you will be sort of helping the psychometricians with the clerical side of the job. I am brainstorming here, having no background in the industry. If this is the case, the job will not be as interesting and as exciting as you hope it would be, but useful and a good idea nonetheless (depending on salary and whether this job experience will help you get a better job in the future).