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  • #61627
    Ely
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    Hello, I would like to know your opinion about my situation.

    I was with my boyfriend for 5 years. We met at school at the most random way and we ended up together. Our relationship was like a movie. We both came to each other’s lives to bring out the true self within us. Both of our lives before knowing each other were completely different since we both come from different cultures however we both were open minded and always tried to make it work. As time passed I always tried to encourage him to free his spirit, his true self, and to take out his inner self that was inside a cage for a long time. He felt happier and liberated as time passed by. Even recently before we separated he told me he doesn’t think he would find a person like me easily or at least not in the circle where he is right now which is to work and following society rules. I always tried to help him out and cheer him up so his spirit wouldn’t fall and get absorbed by his surroundings and he always appreciated it because now he has a goal and now he feels different form others. I think he met me for that reason.
    On my side, since I came from a stressful life, always struggling, I guess you could say I became a bitter person inside and of course I wasn’t happy with myself. Which is something I discovered and admitted later on. He always tried to bring the best of me, the genuine side of me, which is to be generous, happy, grateful and to be kind to others without judging. He always tried to teach me to be patient and even if I thought different from others I should always respect them and bring good karma to me. He was the balance I needed.
    In the end I think we both marked each other and I’m sure we will never forget it.

    Time passed by and we grew up and entered the real world. We would always be stressed and sensitive. To make it short…one day we had an argument and we ended up splitting up. He told me he didn’t know if he felt the same towards me. In summary, the truth was that since i was not happy with myself, i was miserable, i wasn’t able to bring or share happiness to him. Therefore i concluded since he wasn’t happy and probably miserable with himself, he was expecting me to fulfill that for him which of course it didn’t work. For me it’s hard to believe he does not love me anymore because now i see the reality of why everything was happening. There was something missing in his life, even when he had an awesome job and he was a “stable” person, he was still not happy. I could feel it. So I think i didn’t help either since I was just miserable as well and we both didn’t bring out the best of us to the relationship at the end.
    He told me it was better to take a break without setting a time, that he wanted to break up but leave a door open for each other since he was confused. Since i am aware of my feelings, i know i love him…so my heart was always willing to accept it. The last times i would see him i could feel love form him and i know he wants me to be happy. He said i don’t deserve someone who has doubts so he prefers to step back.
    Some friends tell me love is either yes or no..not maybes so that made me confused to think if i should move on and just cut off the string I have for him, because inside I do have hope however I don’t know if having that is creating expectations that won’t heal my spirit.
    He told me it would be a good chance to do something with our life, something meaningful and if we really belong to each other we will come back. But, isn’t this selfish? I honestly don’t want to think anything bad about him and as they say, “love is free”, i don’t really have an objection if he wants to live his life and do something without me. However, I’m not sure if i should clarify with him what he truly wants…why does he want to keep me in his radar? Why is he doubting to let me go completely? It makes me tired trying to figure out what he could be feeling because I know i won’t get anywhere.
    I made a promise to myself to change, for me, to be someone happy and truly free of attachments that in the end damaged our love. But, how can I change if i still have that hope? I mean, should i even have that hope? Should i just forget about him (not literally) and move on and let go of everything and consider it it’s over?
    Before he left he told me to have faith in us because he does and he told me to stop underestimate us. How can someone who’s not sure about someone say those things? The way he acts makes me feel it’s difficult to think he really doesn’t love me (romantic way)…He just said, “Ely right now i’m not thinking anything, i don’t want to say it’s the end but i cannot say it’s not, that’s how i feel. I just want to let it go and just let the feeling come naturally, if it’s there i will come back. Maybe right now you want to go back but maybe later you don’t you never know! Just let go of everything, don’t think of me and focus on yourself to be better”. I don’t know what to do…because in reality I do love him and i’m sure of it however I don’t want to continue being the same person I was…the one that killed his hope and he feels he doesn’t think I can change. He told me he didn’t wanna fall into the same mistakes again, and I agree. My main question is not if he loves me or not…but to myself. If i want to change and free myself completely, should i cut that string others call “selfish”? I want to change for myself, not for him or anyone, because I learned putting my happiness and expectations on people will crush me in the end, and it did, so i want to change, I want to be someone different, my true soul but i cannot deny love. I don’t know if holding this hope would truly make me change…Sometimes i think he is right…not to think of anything and just let it flow and focus on my own life without expecting anything. But how do you have hope without expecting anything?
    I hope i made sense…Thank you for taking the time to read my story.

    • This topic was modified 10 years, 4 months ago by Ely.
    #61651
    Matt
    Participant

    Ely,

    I’m sorry for your suffering, and can understand how difficult it can be to turn away. Consider that while you two were together, you both nose dived into painful feelings. When we don’t know how to right ourselves, how to brush off from a tough moment and find some peace, it can lead to really unstable romances. If one partner is off, no biggie. The other can nurture, bring the other home. If both are off, however, look out. Both crying “I’m hungry” and no one eating. Said differently, when neither partner is good at self nurturing, finding inner happiness, acceptance, and look to the relationship for caregiving, it can quickly drain romance. A few things came to heart as I read your words.

    First, love is not black and white. It flows, ebbs, rises, fades, blossoms… many flavors, styles, forms. I think what you’re experiencing is him realizing he’s looking for his safe spaces his feeling of happiness, and you’re not it. That’s good, needed. We all have to find our own inner happiness, no one can give that to us… despite the many fairy tales and movies. For him, it sounds like being with you right now is confusing, pulls his attention away from where he feels he needs to look.

    Which is kind of what you sound like, right now. The pain of loss, fear of going alone, pushing you to reach toward him over and over. Fantasies, questions, puzzles, wishes… attention directed toward him, his side, his life, his reasons, his feelings. This isn’t that helpful for you, right now, because you have your own flock to tend. Your own “OK, without him, who am I? If I could do anything, *anything*, what would it be? Where do I wish to take my journey, this life?” That’s where your happiness is, dear sister, getting in tune with that, acting from that space. Not “What am I to him?” but “What next?”

    Next, there are indicators of codependency in your stories, such as the notions of saving each other, and Pia Melody has done some great work at helping people understand and let go of that kind of behavioral/thinking pattern. “Pia Mellody Facing Codependence” on amazon if interested.

    As far as the “maybe we’ll get back together someday”, its true. Maybe, who knows. However, consider that before that could be stable, finding your inner stability is needed. Said differently, even if you two get back together, if you don’t have good self nurturing habits, improved boundaries and so forth (explained well by Mellody), when stress hits you both at the same time, it’ll look awfully familiar, and distasteful. So, turn that ship, sis! What do you actually need right now? Was there anything you neglected while tending him?

    Finally, the main cause that drives that inner cruddy feeling is often poor self nurturing habits. When we offer too much attention to others, even our partners, and not enough toward ourselves, we’re left neglected, drained, light dim. We have to learn to turn the ship away, steer our attention toward our own hobbies and interests. Dusting off the guitar, breaking out the old sketch pad, sewing machine, journal, bowling ball… whatever… when we’re feeling low, its time to scribble, play, find our inner smile. My favorite of these is metta meditation, where we set down then past and future and cultivate positive thoughts and feelings. As we sit and breathe, wishing for ourselves and others to be happy, our mind becomes peaceful and smooth. First we intentionally think friendly thoughts, then we starting having friendly thoughts, then we feel friendly, warm feelings. Natural, simple steps. Any self nurturing activities do this, so if meditation isn’t your thing, creating art, walking in nature, a bath with candles, soft music. If we unplug from the many stories, and simply let ourselves unwind, our hearts get the air they need to shine. Said differently, when our mind is busy racing, we don’t have the space to hear the whispers from our heart. That’s where you’ll find Ely, waiting for you. Consider “Sharon Salzburg guided metta meditation” on YouTube, if interested.

    Namaste, dear sister, may your heartfelt dreams blossom with ease.

    With warmth,
    Matt

    #61663
    Inky
    Participant

    Good Morning!

    I think what happened is he broke up with you in the gentlest way possible ~ while also leaving you as a future option!

    I also think you were in your lives for A Reason AND A Season! And you simply outgrew each other in that you are both now so Awesome neither one can fully contain the other’s Awesomeness.

    Love also ebbs and flows so there is a slight chance that five or ten years later you will meet again and see each other with new eyes.

    However, right now the Love is that of being supportive Friends. An occasional text. Social media buddies. Running into each other at the same parties.

    I would honestly keep it that way. His true feelings for you will come out, I suspect, once you take him at his word and move on ~ and he knows you’re with another guy one day. Don’t be surprised if he gets jealous ~ but don’t be disappointed if he doesn’t seem to care, either!

    • This reply was modified 10 years, 4 months ago by Inky.
    #61672
    passionateself
    Participant

    Hello Ely,

    Hope you are doing well.

    I have to say your boyfriend is right. Focus on yourself. I can’t say for sure but I believe he has a hope you will change so you’ll can be together.

    If you really want him and you can’t start focusing on yourself without him. Tell him that you want to have a dinner once a week or in the starting may be once a month to catch up. But I truly believe you need to focus on yourself.

    Your inner strength will be the key.

    Warm Regards,

    Passionate Self

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